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kushm4sta
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kushm4sta
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case on tehpoofter is the most garbage case ever | ||
HaruRH
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Town totem: Chrom Exo batsnacks | ||
Holyflare
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Holyflare
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strongandbig
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Have to go to work Some notes to calm thy tits, thread: Townish: - chromatically Scummish: - palmar not trying on day 1 - koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost - rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia. Good args: - chromatically on why sinani is scum - mz on why round is scum - koshi on why tica is scum - (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum | ||
Holyflare
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Holyflare
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Bill Murray
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On June 11 2014 23:27 ExO_ wrote: I'm not so sure. If you are the mafia, you've got all the power. You're in control of the game, and you know it (and nobody else knows it). I think he could very easily just be an overconfident mafia you and i are agreeing on a lot, even my voting pattern, albeit i don't consider it a dismissal of my vote on poofter due to his buddying whereas i haven't been going out of my way to list 5 townreads... i believe i've only listed on that i am fairly sure on, and even then, if he flips scum, i wouldn't be too surprised | ||
Bill Murray
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On June 11 2014 23:31 kushm4sta wrote: any good cases i can look at yet? case on tehpoofter is the most garbage case ever how so? the fact he is directly claiming people are town? the fact he isn't scumhunting and is buddying? no. I believe your play is moreso | ||
Bill Murray
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On June 11 2014 23:32 HaruRH wrote: Exo joins me on my town totem. Town totem: Chrom Exo batsnacks really dislike your reads and considering youre a 3rd vote youre becoming ever more scummy to me | ||
Bill Murray
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On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote: Finished reading through page 48 on phone Have to go to work Some notes to calm thy tits, thread: Townish: - chromatically Scummish: - palmar not trying on day 1 - koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost - rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia. Good args: - chromatically on why sinani is scum - mz on why round is scum - koshi on why tica is scum - (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum oh, hey there, glad you could join us ##vote: strongandbig | ||
Bill Murray
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How much does StrongandBig post as mafia versus as town? | ||
Bill Murray
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kushm4sta
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Palmar
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Palmar
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Bill Murray
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Bill Murray
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didn't really get any hmm... deeper thoughts/meaning out of any of my rest.... like I normally would, when I was at my peak... I will have to think about the game while I work. | ||
Chromatically
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On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote: Chromatically: I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him. tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread. + Show Spoiler + On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first therefore the first six people to post are scum gg On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote: Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering. Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good. On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. ##Vote: sinani206 On June 11 2014 22:48 Koshi wrote: Building on to Chromatically: Sadly the scrubs in this thread see Chrom as town. The reasons I gave to why Chrom are scum are obviously totally ignored, yet nobody is voting for Sinani. Chrom meta: GoT game. Chrom does nothing else but tunnel S0lstice this game. Nobody else found s0lstice scummy but Chrom just kept going and going and it was all fine and dandy. So it's not impossible for scum!Chrom do to what he is doing. Do other people see why Sinani is scum? Is Chrom his case exaggerated? If it isn't, why aren't you supporting it? I tell you again, I read that Chrom case, I read Sinani filter multiple times and I DO NOT SEE IT. I do not see the "scummy mindset" that Chrom is portraying. Detention mafia. Latest towngame from Chrom. The tunneling seems to be not mafia indicative for Chrom. Somewhere I want to believe that in his towngame Chrom asked people what they found of his Gobble case while in this game he just asks marv to vote with him but it might be the same thing and I am biased. tldr: I didn't like how Chrom entered the thread. Which made me look at his filter. I wanted to see what Chrom would do if I pressured him on his Sinani read. Chrom decided to trow some more suspicion on me with generic reasons to why I am mafia. Do I still think he needs to be watched? Yes. Here are his two reads on me. I've already talked about why the first one is bad, but the second one is even worse. He's making stuff up and exaggerating things so that it looks like his position is reasonable. First of all, my sinani case. Koshi's read on me is based around the fact that he disagrees with my sinani read, ("I do not see the scummy mindset that Chrom is portraying"). But, this disagreement clearly doesn't make me scum, so Koshi needs to find some way to have it make me scum. So he exaggerates my position to an extreme: "I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him." This is clearly not true. Facts: - my case was posted ~2 hours into the game - my case was based on 3 of sinani's posts - I asked marv why he wouldn't sheep me - I asked Tica what he thought of sinani My case is a very early-game case, and certainly not cause for a "strong scumread". There's nothing that indicates that I have a super strong scumread on sinani. Neither of my questions to people show me trying to get a wagon started. I was asking for reads, not pushing people to vote for him. This is all pretty obvious from my filter. Koshi is deliberately exaggerating my position to make it look scummy. He knows there's nothing wrong with someone making an early-game case and asking for reads on it, so he has to distort my play to fit his idea of me as scum. Also, from his first post: On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote: I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him. From his second post: On June 11 2014 22:48 Koshi wrote: Also do you remember MZ saying that he read Chrome his filter and didn't understand what Chromes case on Sinani was about? My "scumread" on Chrome is based on that same fact. The fact that Chrome is pushing Sinani pretty mehly. NOTICE THE COMPLETE CONTRADICTION. First he says that I'm mafia because my read on sinani is too strong, and then later he says that I'm mafia because it's too weak. He says earlier that I'm pushing everyone to sheep me, but then he says that I'm pushing it too "mehly". It can't be both. Koshi forgot his supposed reason why he was calling me mafia and flipped it around. His meta read on me, in addition to saying literally nothing at all in a lot of words, is not even true. He says in GoT that I "did nothing but tunnel Solstice" even though "no one else found solstice scummy", which is a blatant lie (I pushed solstice for maybe half of D1, other people did find solstice scummy for what I pointed out). The point is that Koshi's meta on me is completely false, made up so that he can act like it matches this game and justify his read. This is even more alarming because he was scum with me that game, so he should remember what was happening with his teammates. tl;dr, Koshi overexaggerates my play so that he can call it scummy, and contradicts himself on why I am mafia. Town does not need to twist things to fit their view, scum does because they know that their logic is wrong. Town does not contradict themselves on why they are calling someone mafia because they truly believe it, scum can. | ||
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