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Vote Count - Day 5:
Chromatically (1): sinani206, strongandbig
sinani206 (0): VayneAuthority, 27ninjabunnies
ritoky (5): VayneAuthority, sinani206, Chromatically, Holyflare, 27ninjabunnies
Holyflare (1): batsnacks, ObiWanShinobi
ObiWanShinobi (0): Alakaslam
Alakaslam (0): ObiWanShinobi
Not voting (5): Bantha Poodoo
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On June 24 2014 02:34 27ninjabunnies wrote:
roundabound- VT/ mason switch claim (Very odd that rainbows dies the night that their "switch" happened)
Holyflare - VT
ObiWanShinobi - VT
Erandorr replaced by 27ninjabunnies - VT
SLAM- Vet?
batsnacks - VT
strongandbig - VT
VayneAuthority - VT
Sinani-Tracker
Chairman Ray - VT
ritoky - VT
Chrom- tracker
So until we get a JK claim, I'm refusing to believe we have a JK. Marv could have easily faked getting jailed to get more checks. Why he didn't out his checks if there is no jk, well thats another question.
So above I bolded green who we should not lynch today. The rest are up for grabs.
Even though I am super SUPER paranoid that round is mafia this game, for the fact alone that rainbows died the same night he claimed that round was mason, was super weird, I'm willing to leave him alone for another day.
Holyflare has been trying to figure this out and not solely complaining on how this game has gone to shit.
I am town, and I'm not lynching the last 3 blue claims unless we get counterclaims.
So that leaves 6 people left to lynch out of, and 5 are mafia from my perspective.
Omg, guess who are in those 6?! PEOPLE IVE BEEN ON ALL GAME!
Seriously, I should be listened to more.
I got masoned n2. I would have killed him then instead of the 10+ VTs that were killed instead. -.-
Plus, I told him to mason marv the next day and checked with the mod multiple times to make sure that the mason would go through in case marv was jk'd or rb'd (i expressed this in thread as well).
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On June 24 2014 03:19 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 02:34 27ninjabunnies wrote:
roundabound- VT/ mason switch claim (Very odd that rainbows dies the night that their "switch" happened)
Holyflare - VT
ObiWanShinobi - VT
Erandorr replaced by 27ninjabunnies - VT
SLAM- Vet?
batsnacks - VT
strongandbig - VT
VayneAuthority - VT
Sinani-Tracker
Chairman Ray - VT
ritoky - VT
Chrom- tracker
So until we get a JK claim, I'm refusing to believe we have a JK. Marv could have easily faked getting jailed to get more checks. Why he didn't out his checks if there is no jk, well thats another question.
So above I bolded green who we should not lynch today. The rest are up for grabs.
Even though I am super SUPER paranoid that round is mafia this game, for the fact alone that rainbows died the same night he claimed that round was mason, was super weird, I'm willing to leave him alone for another day.
Holyflare has been trying to figure this out and not solely complaining on how this game has gone to shit.
I am town, and I'm not lynching the last 3 blue claims unless we get counterclaims.
So that leaves 6 people left to lynch out of, and 5 are mafia from my perspective.
Omg, guess who are in those 6?! PEOPLE IVE BEEN ON ALL GAME!
Seriously, I should be listened to more.
I got masoned n2. I would have killed him then instead of the 10+ VTs that were killed instead. -.- Plus, I told him to mason marv the next day and checked with the mod multiple times to make sure that the mason would go through in case marv was jk'd or rb'd (i expressed this in thread as well).
OOhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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i still dont know why we arent lynching bunnies.
cr's case was solid and i feel stupid for having doubted him in the first place.
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On June 24 2014 02:34 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 23:45 strongandbig wrote:
Ok suppose chrom is town tracker and sinani is scum - the only way sinani guesses correctly who chrom visited is by random chance. He knows chrom was tracker so he would visit someone, but there was a very small chance he guesses correctly given that there's more than ten players still left. I'm comfortable saying sinani is actually tracker.
Then for chrom to have visited rainbows, he either would have to be actual tracker, or sergeant using his KP or roleblock.
The thing is, if chrome's scum why would be claim miller to the ritocky check? He would know that ritocky is fakeclaiming but why give up the green check? Answer: he would do this if ninja bunnies was also scum. He would have to do it, otherwise we lynch bunnies, get a red result, then ritocky reveals the fakeclaim and chrom doesn't even get the green check.
This makes way more sense as a justification for a fakeclaim than what slam did btw. In a game with a known number of blue roles, there's literally no reason for slam to fakeclaim when he did.
So we have a 50-50 chance of hitting mafia between slam and chrom, and I think there was way more scum motivation for chrom's fakeclaim than for slam's.
##vote: chromatically Lol... If you believe Sinani, then chrome is worth a vote, & so is Bunnies.Ironically, if you believe Sinani -- which you do.... then Bunnies is not worth a vote. ~moc
why? tracking someone doesn't clear them, kp can't be tracked
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On June 24 2014 04:00 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 02:34 roundabound wrote:On June 23 2014 23:45 strongandbig wrote:
Ok suppose chrom is town tracker and sinani is scum - the only way sinani guesses correctly who chrom visited is by random chance. He knows chrom was tracker so he would visit someone, but there was a very small chance he guesses correctly given that there's more than ten players still left. I'm comfortable saying sinani is actually tracker.
Then for chrom to have visited rainbows, he either would have to be actual tracker, or sergeant using his KP or roleblock.
The thing is, if chrome's scum why would be claim miller to the ritocky check? He would know that ritocky is fakeclaiming but why give up the green check? Answer: he would do this if ninja bunnies was also scum. He would have to do it, otherwise we lynch bunnies, get a red result, then ritocky reveals the fakeclaim and chrom doesn't even get the green check.
This makes way more sense as a justification for a fakeclaim than what slam did btw. In a game with a known number of blue roles, there's literally no reason for slam to fakeclaim when he did.
So we have a 50-50 chance of hitting mafia between slam and chrom, and I think there was way more scum motivation for chrom's fakeclaim than for slam's.
##vote: chromatically Lol... If you believe Sinani, then chrome is worth a vote, & so is Bunnies.Ironically, if you believe Sinani -- which you do.... then Bunnies is not worth a vote. ~moc why? tracking someone doesn't clear them, kp can't be tracked
go vote bunnies and stop voting in the blue claims.
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On June 24 2014 04:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 04:00 strongandbig wrote:On June 24 2014 02:34 roundabound wrote:On June 23 2014 23:45 strongandbig wrote:
Ok suppose chrom is town tracker and sinani is scum - the only way sinani guesses correctly who chrom visited is by random chance. He knows chrom was tracker so he would visit someone, but there was a very small chance he guesses correctly given that there's more than ten players still left. I'm comfortable saying sinani is actually tracker.
Then for chrom to have visited rainbows, he either would have to be actual tracker, or sergeant using his KP or roleblock.
The thing is, if chrome's scum why would be claim miller to the ritocky check? He would know that ritocky is fakeclaiming but why give up the green check? Answer: he would do this if ninja bunnies was also scum. He would have to do it, otherwise we lynch bunnies, get a red result, then ritocky reveals the fakeclaim and chrom doesn't even get the green check.
This makes way more sense as a justification for a fakeclaim than what slam did btw. In a game with a known number of blue roles, there's literally no reason for slam to fakeclaim when he did.
So we have a 50-50 chance of hitting mafia between slam and chrom, and I think there was way more scum motivation for chrom's fakeclaim than for slam's.
##vote: chromatically Lol... If you believe Sinani, then chrome is worth a vote, & so is Bunnies.Ironically, if you believe Sinani -- which you do.... then Bunnies is not worth a vote. ~moc why? tracking someone doesn't clear them, kp can't be tracked go vote bunnies and stop voting in the blue claims.
Why you no wanna kill confirmed maf ritoky?
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On June 24 2014 04:00 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 02:34 roundabound wrote:On June 23 2014 23:45 strongandbig wrote:
Ok suppose chrom is town tracker and sinani is scum - the only way sinani guesses correctly who chrom visited is by random chance. He knows chrom was tracker so he would visit someone, but there was a very small chance he guesses correctly given that there's more than ten players still left. I'm comfortable saying sinani is actually tracker.
Then for chrom to have visited rainbows, he either would have to be actual tracker, or sergeant using his KP or roleblock.
The thing is, if chrome's scum why would be claim miller to the ritocky check? He would know that ritocky is fakeclaiming but why give up the green check? Answer: he would do this if ninja bunnies was also scum. He would have to do it, otherwise we lynch bunnies, get a red result, then ritocky reveals the fakeclaim and chrom doesn't even get the green check.
This makes way more sense as a justification for a fakeclaim than what slam did btw. In a game with a known number of blue roles, there's literally no reason for slam to fakeclaim when he did.
So we have a 50-50 chance of hitting mafia between slam and chrom, and I think there was way more scum motivation for chrom's fakeclaim than for slam's.
##vote: chromatically Lol... If you believe Sinani, then chrome is worth a vote, & so is Bunnies.Ironically, if you believe Sinani -- which you do.... then Bunnies is not worth a vote. ~moc why? tracking someone doesn't clear them, kp can't be tracked
Heres the funny thing though SnB.
Whether Chrome *IS* or *IS NOT* scum leads to Bunnies being scum in your world.
Why hinge the vote on Chrom, and not default to Bunnies??
Given this is potentially MYLO, the play mind-boggles me.
It does not matter whether Chrom is, or is not a blue.
What does matter is *hitting* scum.
A 50/50 on Chrom is not the smart play for town according to your logic.
~moc
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On June 24 2014 04:08 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 04:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 24 2014 04:00 strongandbig wrote:On June 24 2014 02:34 roundabound wrote:On June 23 2014 23:45 strongandbig wrote:
Ok suppose chrom is town tracker and sinani is scum - the only way sinani guesses correctly who chrom visited is by random chance. He knows chrom was tracker so he would visit someone, but there was a very small chance he guesses correctly given that there's more than ten players still left. I'm comfortable saying sinani is actually tracker.
Then for chrom to have visited rainbows, he either would have to be actual tracker, or sergeant using his KP or roleblock.
The thing is, if chrome's scum why would be claim miller to the ritocky check? He would know that ritocky is fakeclaiming but why give up the green check? Answer: he would do this if ninja bunnies was also scum. He would have to do it, otherwise we lynch bunnies, get a red result, then ritocky reveals the fakeclaim and chrom doesn't even get the green check.
This makes way more sense as a justification for a fakeclaim than what slam did btw. In a game with a known number of blue roles, there's literally no reason for slam to fakeclaim when he did.
So we have a 50-50 chance of hitting mafia between slam and chrom, and I think there was way more scum motivation for chrom's fakeclaim than for slam's.
##vote: chromatically Lol... If you believe Sinani, then chrome is worth a vote, & so is Bunnies.Ironically, if you believe Sinani -- which you do.... then Bunnies is not worth a vote. ~moc why? tracking someone doesn't clear them, kp can't be tracked go vote bunnies and stop voting in the blue claims. Why you no wanna kill confirmed maf ritoky?
when was he confirmed? i didnt see anything that confirmed him.
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On June 24 2014 04:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 04:08 roundabound wrote:On June 24 2014 04:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 24 2014 04:00 strongandbig wrote:On June 24 2014 02:34 roundabound wrote:On June 23 2014 23:45 strongandbig wrote:
Ok suppose chrom is town tracker and sinani is scum - the only way sinani guesses correctly who chrom visited is by random chance. He knows chrom was tracker so he would visit someone, but there was a very small chance he guesses correctly given that there's more than ten players still left. I'm comfortable saying sinani is actually tracker.
Then for chrom to have visited rainbows, he either would have to be actual tracker, or sergeant using his KP or roleblock.
The thing is, if chrome's scum why would be claim miller to the ritocky check? He would know that ritocky is fakeclaiming but why give up the green check? Answer: he would do this if ninja bunnies was also scum. He would have to do it, otherwise we lynch bunnies, get a red result, then ritocky reveals the fakeclaim and chrom doesn't even get the green check.
This makes way more sense as a justification for a fakeclaim than what slam did btw. In a game with a known number of blue roles, there's literally no reason for slam to fakeclaim when he did.
So we have a 50-50 chance of hitting mafia between slam and chrom, and I think there was way more scum motivation for chrom's fakeclaim than for slam's.
##vote: chromatically Lol... If you believe Sinani, then chrome is worth a vote, & so is Bunnies.Ironically, if you believe Sinani -- which you do.... then Bunnies is not worth a vote. ~moc why? tracking someone doesn't clear them, kp can't be tracked go vote bunnies and stop voting in the blue claims. Why you no wanna kill confirmed maf ritoky? when was he confirmed? i didnt see anything that confirmed him.
Step 1: claim cop
Step 2: get fucked
Step 3: claim vt
Step 4: AtM (ass-to-mouth...i'm gonna use this to refer to AtE from now on)
Step 5: AFK
AKA Scum claim
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On June 24 2014 04:14 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 04:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 24 2014 04:08 roundabound wrote:On June 24 2014 04:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 24 2014 04:00 strongandbig wrote:On June 24 2014 02:34 roundabound wrote:On June 23 2014 23:45 strongandbig wrote:
Ok suppose chrom is town tracker and sinani is scum - the only way sinani guesses correctly who chrom visited is by random chance. He knows chrom was tracker so he would visit someone, but there was a very small chance he guesses correctly given that there's more than ten players still left. I'm comfortable saying sinani is actually tracker.
Then for chrom to have visited rainbows, he either would have to be actual tracker, or sergeant using his KP or roleblock.
The thing is, if chrome's scum why would be claim miller to the ritocky check? He would know that ritocky is fakeclaiming but why give up the green check? Answer: he would do this if ninja bunnies was also scum. He would have to do it, otherwise we lynch bunnies, get a red result, then ritocky reveals the fakeclaim and chrom doesn't even get the green check.
This makes way more sense as a justification for a fakeclaim than what slam did btw. In a game with a known number of blue roles, there's literally no reason for slam to fakeclaim when he did.
So we have a 50-50 chance of hitting mafia between slam and chrom, and I think there was way more scum motivation for chrom's fakeclaim than for slam's.
##vote: chromatically Lol... If you believe Sinani, then chrome is worth a vote, & so is Bunnies.Ironically, if you believe Sinani -- which you do.... then Bunnies is not worth a vote. ~moc why? tracking someone doesn't clear them, kp can't be tracked go vote bunnies and stop voting in the blue claims. Why you no wanna kill confirmed maf ritoky? when was he confirmed? i didnt see anything that confirmed him. Step 1: claim cop Step 2: get fucked Step 3: claim vt Step 4: AtM (ass-to-mouth...i'm gonna use this to refer to AtE from now on) Step 5: AFK AKA Scum claim
he claimed cop like he does in almost every game with nb, and cr posted that there was an incongruence with nb's reaction and how shes looking for excuses to lynch people.
but lets back up and ignore that.
if ritoky is scum, who are the others on his team? and why are the things you listed alignment indicative?
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As far as I know, what you're saying is wrong. He usually calls bunnies mafia and pushes that read strongly. He has never claimed cop as VT.
I refuse to take CR's word for anything cause he's a scum read of mine
ignoring that, the reason those things are alignment indicative is that VT has no reason to make the play the way he did, whereas there are reasons to make the play as mafia.
Ritokys maf team would be something like: CR, SnB, Batsnacks? VA? Slam?
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even bunnies admitted that ritoky claims cop as a vt. so either youre not paying attention or both bunnies and ritoky are lying about their back and forth.
the second scenario isnt even plausible.
and you still only have four people in your list. if youre going to call those people mafia, give reasoning for why you think that. everybody is sitting around posting shitlists that accomplish nothing and dont convince anyone of anything.
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The fact that they still want to lynch me even when I've offered up the most information to help town (minus HF who offered up a bunch too) boggle s my mind. Seriously. Im not mafia,
We lynch Ritoky, Batsnacks, OWS, VA, SNB, and CR and we win.
There's only 1 VT in there, and 5 mafia. we have 5/6 chance of hitting mafia out of there unless I'm super wrong on HF being town.
So there ya have it.
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On June 24 2014 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
even bunnies admitted that ritoky claims cop as a vt. so either youre not paying attention or both bunnies and ritoky are lying about their back and forth.
the second scenario isnt even plausible.
and you still only have four people in your list. if youre going to call those people mafia, give reasoning for why you think that. everybody is sitting around posting shitlists that accomplish nothing and dont convince anyone of anything.
I never said he claims cop as VT, Im saying he claimed cop in one game as VT where he is wrong on me and I was town that game.
I am also sayin that this game is SUPER different than the huge Golden Sun factional game.
So him claiming cop in one game as VT doesnt mean he is doing it this game as VT. He could very well be mafia, and I think he is.
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On June 24 2014 04:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
even bunnies admitted that ritoky claims cop as a vt. so either youre not paying attention or both bunnies and ritoky are lying about their back and forth.
the second scenario isnt even plausible.
and you still only have four people in your list. if youre going to call those people mafia, give reasoning for why you think that. everybody is sitting around posting shitlists that accomplish nothing and dont convince anyone of anything. I never said he claims cop as VT, Im saying he claimed cop in one game as VT where he is wrong on me and I was town that game.I am also sayin that this game is SUPER different than the huge Golden Sun factional game. So him claiming cop in one game as VT doesnt mean he is doing it this game as VT. He could very well be mafia, and I think he is.
wat
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On June 24 2014 04:11 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 04:00 strongandbig wrote:On June 24 2014 02:34 roundabound wrote:On June 23 2014 23:45 strongandbig wrote:
Ok suppose chrom is town tracker and sinani is scum - the only way sinani guesses correctly who chrom visited is by random chance. He knows chrom was tracker so he would visit someone, but there was a very small chance he guesses correctly given that there's more than ten players still left. I'm comfortable saying sinani is actually tracker.
Then for chrom to have visited rainbows, he either would have to be actual tracker, or sergeant using his KP or roleblock.
The thing is, if chrome's scum why would be claim miller to the ritocky check? He would know that ritocky is fakeclaiming but why give up the green check? Answer: he would do this if ninja bunnies was also scum. He would have to do it, otherwise we lynch bunnies, get a red result, then ritocky reveals the fakeclaim and chrom doesn't even get the green check.
This makes way more sense as a justification for a fakeclaim than what slam did btw. In a game with a known number of blue roles, there's literally no reason for slam to fakeclaim when he did.
So we have a 50-50 chance of hitting mafia between slam and chrom, and I think there was way more scum motivation for chrom's fakeclaim than for slam's.
##vote: chromatically Lol... If you believe Sinani, then chrome is worth a vote, & so is Bunnies.Ironically, if you believe Sinani -- which you do.... then Bunnies is not worth a vote. ~moc why? tracking someone doesn't clear them, kp can't be tracked Heres the funny thing though SnB. Whether Chrome *IS* or *IS NOT* scum leads to Bunnies being scum in your world. Why hinge the vote on Chrom, and not default to Bunnies?? Given this is potentially MYLO, the play mind-boggles me. It does not matter whether Chrom is, or is not a blue. What does matter is *hitting* scum. A 50/50 on Chrom is not the smart play for town according to your logic. ~moc
im missing something here. why does chrom not being scum mean bunnies is scum?
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On June 24 2014 04:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 04:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 24 2014 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
even bunnies admitted that ritoky claims cop as a vt. so either youre not paying attention or both bunnies and ritoky are lying about their back and forth.
the second scenario isnt even plausible.
and you still only have four people in your list. if youre going to call those people mafia, give reasoning for why you think that. everybody is sitting around posting shitlists that accomplish nothing and dont convince anyone of anything. I never said he claims cop as VT, Im saying he claimed cop in one game as VT where he is wrong on me and I was town that game.I am also sayin that this game is SUPER different than the huge Golden Sun factional game. So him claiming cop in one game as VT doesnt mean he is doing it this game as VT. He could very well be mafia, and I think he is. wat
What you were implying is that I say he always claims cop as vt. He did it in one game against me, where he was VT. And he did it this game, which I think he is mafia this game.
So saying that I admit ritoky claims cop as VT is wrong. He did it in one game. And i think he is mafia this game.
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On June 24 2014 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
even bunnies admitted that ritoky claims cop as a vt. so either youre not paying attention or both bunnies and ritoky are lying about their back and forth.
the second scenario isnt even plausible.
and you still only have four people in your list. if youre going to call those people mafia, give reasoning for why you think that. everybody is sitting around posting shitlists that accomplish nothing and dont convince anyone of anything.
It's tough for me to convince anyone that someone is mafia. It's hard to convince people of someone being town. I have reasons to believe that the people atop my town list are town. That's why I'm cool with lynching other people. You asked me for a specific scenario. I don't really make mafia teams. I have people who I think are town and I'm willing to lynch the rest. That's just how I play. This game it's been very difficult to put people into my town list, and the people who I have had in my town list are dying.
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