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roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 13:55 GMT
#5541
The points on pg 271 make a lot of sense. No reason to doubt sinani's claim. That would be a REALLY REALLY difficult guess.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 14:13 GMT
#5542
On June 23 2014 15:32 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 15:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
who the fuck cares about "pro town," the only thing that matters at this point is lynching mafia.

the fact that youve thrown your vote away uselessly several times and have done next to nothing but post garbage all game, only to complain about "thread atmosphere" in lylo makes me think youre trying too hard to be town. you havent even cared about this game right up until this point, so i dont believe a word coming out of your mouth when you start complaining about the way im acting.

Very good!

Now my voting has indeed been less than optimal. But if you check the timings, it was usually setting two wagons even, encouraging choice. Usually I was ill informed, so I felt this would be the best course of action with my vote.

During this time town atmosphere was still good enough that I felt I could get a read, as it is now. I am duly pleased with myself.


This is the scummiest thought process behind voting I can imagine. I was ready to vote you just for this but then I got to the claims...
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 14:17 GMT
#5543
Wait we have 8 blue claims and no jailkeeper?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 14:19 GMT
#5544
Wait nvm exo never actually claimed medic like round said be did
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 14:24 GMT
#5545
On June 22 2014 08:05 Rainbows wrote:
Lol.

oh well.

round is mason btw. idc anymore thats all the info i have and why he is confirmed town to me. rip round.


Wait what
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 14:24 GMT
#5546
On June 23 2014 22:50 roundabound wrote:
This blows. Just saw the nightkills results. That means they either have a vigi or 501st sgt just used his shot. Unless another town vigi wants to claim the shot on exo.

Town roles we know:

plammar: mason
koshi: vigi
Rainbows: mason
Marv: role cop
exo: medic
Chrom: tracker

That leaves 2 more. Will catch up with the thread now to see what else happened.

I don't know how explicit what me and rainbows were doing in the thread was, but it's probably more likely that an experienced mafia picked up on the role swap...unless everyone says that it was blatantly obvious.


Why is rainbows' claim that you are mason not on this list
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 14:26 GMT
#5547
On June 23 2014 23:24 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 22:50 roundabound wrote:
This blows. Just saw the nightkills results. That means they either have a vigi or 501st sgt just used his shot. Unless another town vigi wants to claim the shot on exo.

Town roles we know:

plammar: mason
koshi: vigi
Rainbows: mason
Marv: role cop
exo: medic
Chrom: tracker

That leaves 2 more. Will catch up with the thread now to see what else happened.

I don't know how explicit what me and rainbows were doing in the thread was, but it's probably more likely that an experienced mafia picked up on the role swap...unless everyone says that it was blatantly obvious.


Why is rainbows' claim that you are mason not on this list

Cause I'm not mason.
We discussed role swapping as a possibility in our QT and on multiple occasions we discussed it in the thread. He said something along the lines of swapping minds or stepping in his shoes and "i think it's time" and then he claimed that I'm mason.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 14:26 GMT
#5548
On June 23 2014 23:19 strongandbig wrote:
Wait nvm exo never actually claimed medic like round said be did

exo is dead medic?
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 14:29 GMT
#5549
On June 23 2014 23:26 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 23:24 strongandbig wrote:
On June 23 2014 22:50 roundabound wrote:
This blows. Just saw the nightkills results. That means they either have a vigi or 501st sgt just used his shot. Unless another town vigi wants to claim the shot on exo.

Town roles we know:

plammar: mason
koshi: vigi
Rainbows: mason
Marv: role cop
exo: medic
Chrom: tracker

That leaves 2 more. Will catch up with the thread now to see what else happened.

I don't know how explicit what me and rainbows were doing in the thread was, but it's probably more likely that an experienced mafia picked up on the role swap...unless everyone says that it was blatantly obvious.


Why is rainbows' claim that you are mason not on this list

Cause I'm not mason.
We discussed role swapping as a possibility in our QT and on multiple occasions we discussed it in the thread. He said something along the lines of swapping minds or stepping in his shoes and "i think it's time" and then he claimed that I'm mason.


Oh.

So when he said you are "100% town" he meant based on his reads not on roles?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 14:32 GMT
#5550
On June 23 2014 23:26 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 23:19 strongandbig wrote:
Wait nvm exo never actually claimed medic like round said be did

exo is dead medic?

Oh right

Then we have too many blue claims?

Confirmed:
Marv - rolecop
Koshi - vig
Palmer - mason
Rainbows - mason
Exo - medic

Claimed:
Chrom - tracker
Sinani - tracker
Alakazam - vet

Known to exist but unclaimed - jailkeeper

So one out of chrom, sinani, and alakazam has to be mafia?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 14:33 GMT
#5551
On June 23 2014 23:29 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 23:26 roundabound wrote:
On June 23 2014 23:24 strongandbig wrote:
On June 23 2014 22:50 roundabound wrote:
This blows. Just saw the nightkills results. That means they either have a vigi or 501st sgt just used his shot. Unless another town vigi wants to claim the shot on exo.

Town roles we know:

plammar: mason
koshi: vigi
Rainbows: mason
Marv: role cop
exo: medic
Chrom: tracker

That leaves 2 more. Will catch up with the thread now to see what else happened.

I don't know how explicit what me and rainbows were doing in the thread was, but it's probably more likely that an experienced mafia picked up on the role swap...unless everyone says that it was blatantly obvious.


Why is rainbows' claim that you are mason not on this list

Cause I'm not mason.
We discussed role swapping as a possibility in our QT and on multiple occasions we discussed it in the thread. He said something along the lines of swapping minds or stepping in his shoes and "i think it's time" and then he claimed that I'm mason.


Oh.

So when he said you are "100% town" he meant based on his reads not on roles?

he was softing that he could confirm me based off of the fact that we were setting up a role swap in which i claim mason and he claims VT.

The only problem is that he blew his load too early and I think made it too obvious what we were doing instead of waiting for today when we were set to mass-claim.

Updating:

1-plammar: mason
2-koshi: vigi
3-Rainbows: mason
4-Marv: role cop
5-exo: medic
6-Chrom: tracker
7-sinani: tracker
8-slam: vet
9-unknown: jk

so 6,7, or 8 is a lie. Sinani is most likely tracker based off of the fact that chrom confirmed the visit to rainbows.

so one of chrom or slam is lying....or marv was lying about being jk'd in the hopes of getting extra checks (highly unlikely).

Not sure if we should lynch out of the two of them or lynch into the VTs.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 14:35 GMT
#5552
Unless one of them is actually the jailkeeper and is fakeclaiming a different blue role to fuck with us, which would be retarded but believable given previous fakeclaims in this game...
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 14:36 GMT
#5553
On June 23 2014 23:35 strongandbig wrote:
Unless one of them is actually the jailkeeper and is fakeclaiming a different blue role to fuck with us, which would be retarded but believable given previous fakeclaims in this game...

I didn't consider this, but yeah. that's also fathomable.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 14:36 GMT
#5554
On June 23 2014 23:33 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 23:29 strongandbig wrote:
On June 23 2014 23:26 roundabound wrote:
On June 23 2014 23:24 strongandbig wrote:
On June 23 2014 22:50 roundabound wrote:
This blows. Just saw the nightkills results. That means they either have a vigi or 501st sgt just used his shot. Unless another town vigi wants to claim the shot on exo.

Town roles we know:

plammar: mason
koshi: vigi
Rainbows: mason
Marv: role cop
exo: medic
Chrom: tracker

That leaves 2 more. Will catch up with the thread now to see what else happened.

I don't know how explicit what me and rainbows were doing in the thread was, but it's probably more likely that an experienced mafia picked up on the role swap...unless everyone says that it was blatantly obvious.


Why is rainbows' claim that you are mason not on this list

Cause I'm not mason.
We discussed role swapping as a possibility in our QT and on multiple occasions we discussed it in the thread. He said something along the lines of swapping minds or stepping in his shoes and "i think it's time" and then he claimed that I'm mason.


Oh.

So when he said you are "100% town" he meant based on his reads not on roles?

he was softing that he could confirm me based off of the fact that we were setting up a role swap in which i claim mason and he claims VT.

The only problem is that he blew his load too early and I think made it too obvious what we were doing instead of waiting for today when we were set to mass-claim.

Updating:

1-plammar: mason
2-koshi: vigi
3-Rainbows: mason
4-Marv: role cop
5-exo: medic
6-Chrom: tracker
7-sinani: tracker
8-slam: vet
9-unknown: jk

so 6,7, or 8 is a lie. Sinani is most likely tracker based off of the fact that chrom confirmed the visit to rainbows.

so one of chrom or slam is lying....or marv was lying about being jk'd in the hopes of getting extra checks (highly unlikely).

Not sure if we should lynch out of the two of them or lynch into the VTs.


Yeah but that doesn't actually confirm you right?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 14:37 GMT
#5555
I mean it's not like I want to lynch you today given the role mess but it's important to keep track of who is actually confirmed vs who had dead people read them as town
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 14:45 GMT
#5556
Ok suppose chrom is town tracker and sinani is scum - the only way sinani guesses correctly who chrom visited is by random chance. He knows chrom was tracker so he would visit someone, but there was a very small chance he guesses correctly given that there's more than ten players still left. I'm comfortable saying sinani is actually tracker.

Then for chrom to have visited rainbows, he either would have to be actual tracker, or sergeant using his KP or roleblock.

The thing is, if chrome's scum why would be claim miller to the ritocky check? He would know that ritocky is fakeclaiming but why give up the green check? Answer: he would do this if ninja bunnies was also scum. He would have to do it, otherwise we lynch bunnies, get a red result, then ritocky reveals the fakeclaim and chrom doesn't even get the green check.

This makes way more sense as a justification for a fakeclaim than what slam did btw. In a game with a known number of blue roles, there's literally no reason for slam to fakeclaim when he did.

So we have a 50-50 chance of hitting mafia between slam and chrom, and I think there was way more scum motivation for chrom's fakeclaim than for slam's.

##vote: chromatically
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 15:17 GMT
#5557
ObiWanShinobi - VT
ritoky - VT
Erandorr replaced by 27ninjabunnies - VT
Chairman Ray - VT
roundabound (Mocsta/IAmRobik Hydra) - VT
strongandbig - VT
Holyflare - VT
batsnacks - VT
VayneAuthority - VT



Chromatically - TRACKER
sinani206 - TRACKER
Alakaslam - VET


1 of the VTs will be claiming JK (i'm assuming at some point). There are 9VTs and 4 mafia within them and 1 blue. There are 3 blue claims with 1 mafia within them.
I think that it is unlikely that sinani is fake, leaving slam or chrom. I don't see motivation for EITHER OF THEM to fake claim. So unless there is no JK (unlikely) or one of them is actually JK (maybe?), we are 50-50 to hit mafia here
If we lynch out of VTs (i'm pretty sure that most people have me as town by this point either way), we also have a 50-50 chance to lynch scum. Not sure what our best avenue is, but I'm leaning towards lynching out of VT because mislynching a blue would be way more catastrophic.


from town to scum (out of VTs):
roundabound
Holyflare - VT
ObiWanShinobi - VT
Erandorr replaced by 27ninjabunnies - VT

batsnacks - VT
strongandbig - VT
VayneAuthority - VT

Chairman Ray - VT
ritoky - VT

I will say that if we have a JK and the JK is not Slam (that's the only one out of the claimed blues that would make a smidgen of sense), then I am pretty sure who it is and will be highly skeptical of anyone but that persons claim.


This list might be completely fucked though cause of the night kills...just how i'm reading the game at this point.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 23 2014 15:40 GMT
#5558
I think that slam has a pretty good chance of slam being JK based on the vet claim, and although I did rescind my initial vote on Chrom, I didn't have him or slam in my scum team, and quite obviously one of them is mafia. So I think of the two, I'm more inclined to vote for Chrom. But I'm not inclined that the chance of that logic being right is greater than ritoky being scum.

Ritoky. You need to DEFEND YOURSELF if you are town and this is LYLO. Otherwise, there's no reason for any of us to unvote you.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 23 2014 15:41 GMT
#5559
On June 24 2014 00:40 sinani206 wrote:
I think that slam has a pretty good chance of slam being JK based on the vet claim, and although I did rescind my initial vote on Chrom, I didn't have him or slam in my scum team, and quite obviously one of them is mafia. So I think of the two, I'm more inclined to vote for Chrom. But I'm not inclined that the chance of that logic being right is greater than ritoky being scum.

Ritoky. You need to DEFEND YOURSELF if you are town and this is LYLO. Otherwise, there's no reason for any of us to unvote you.


that first sentence lol

should be I think that slam has a pretty good chance of being JK
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 15:44 GMT
#5560
If slam is JK, then you and chrom could both be trackers and all 3 of you could be town.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
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