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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
June 23 2014 19:51 GMT
#5601
On June 24 2014 04:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 04:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
even bunnies admitted that ritoky claims cop as a vt. so either youre not paying attention or both bunnies and ritoky are lying about their back and forth.

the second scenario isnt even plausible.

and you still only have four people in your list. if youre going to call those people mafia, give reasoning for why you think that. everybody is sitting around posting shitlists that accomplish nothing and dont convince anyone of anything.


I never said he claims cop as VT, Im saying he claimed cop in one game as VT where he is wrong on me and I was town that game.

I am also sayin that this game is SUPER different than the huge Golden Sun factional game.
So him claiming cop in one game as VT doesnt mean he is doing it this game as VT. He could very well be mafia, and I think he is.



wat


What you were implying is that I say he always claims cop as vt. He did it in one game against me, where he was VT. And he did it this game, which I think he is mafia this game.

So saying that I admit ritoky claims cop as VT is wrong. He did it in one game. And i think he is mafia this game.


On June 21 2014 14:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 14:15 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:14 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Nope, i didn't get recruited.


oh, well in the end game listing i swore it said you got recruited...must have been part of that mod error.

Must have been, cause i never got a message.

But anyway, it doesnt matter if I was recuited or not. You fake claimed red on me when i was town.

Both times.

And this time.

Your read on me is awful.


?
Retired.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 23 2014 19:56 GMT
#5602
On June 24 2014 04:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:
The fact that they still want to lynch me even when I've offered up the most information to help town (minus HF who offered up a bunch too) boggle s my mind. Seriously. Im not mafia,

We lynch Ritoky, Batsnacks, OWS, VA, SNB, and CR and we win.

There's only 1 VT in there, and 5 mafia. we have 5/6 chance of hitting mafia out of there unless I'm super wrong on HF being town.

So there ya have it.


Idk about this at all lol.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 23 2014 19:56 GMT
#5603
On June 24 2014 04:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 04:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
even bunnies admitted that ritoky claims cop as a vt. so either youre not paying attention or both bunnies and ritoky are lying about their back and forth.

the second scenario isnt even plausible.

and you still only have four people in your list. if youre going to call those people mafia, give reasoning for why you think that. everybody is sitting around posting shitlists that accomplish nothing and dont convince anyone of anything.


I never said he claims cop as VT, Im saying he claimed cop in one game as VT where he is wrong on me and I was town that game.

I am also sayin that this game is SUPER different than the huge Golden Sun factional game.
So him claiming cop in one game as VT doesnt mean he is doing it this game as VT. He could very well be mafia, and I think he is.



wat


What you were implying is that I say he always claims cop as vt. He did it in one game against me, where he was VT. And he did it this game, which I think he is mafia this game.

So saying that I admit ritoky claims cop as VT is wrong. He did it in one game. And i think he is mafia this game.


Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 14:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:15 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:14 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Nope, i didn't get recruited.


oh, well in the end game listing i swore it said you got recruited...must have been part of that mod error.

Must have been, cause i never got a message.

But anyway, it doesnt matter if I was recuited or not. You fake claimed red on me when i was town.

Both times.

And this time.

Your read on me is awful.


?


By both times and this time, i was implying this time was in the both times. He has faked a red on me twice.

I think he attempted to do it this time as mafia, and his plan failed through.

I've stated this multiple times OWS.

Why are you trying so hard to bury me?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 23 2014 19:57 GMT
#5604
On June 24 2014 04:56 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 04:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:
The fact that they still want to lynch me even when I've offered up the most information to help town (minus HF who offered up a bunch too) boggle s my mind. Seriously. Im not mafia,

We lynch Ritoky, Batsnacks, OWS, VA, SNB, and CR and we win.

There's only 1 VT in there, and 5 mafia. we have 5/6 chance of hitting mafia out of there unless I'm super wrong on HF being town.

So there ya have it.


Idk about this at all lol.


HAve you read the last 10+pages.

Definitely iven a hell lot more information than you have.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
June 23 2014 19:59 GMT
#5605
On June 24 2014 04:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 04:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
even bunnies admitted that ritoky claims cop as a vt. so either youre not paying attention or both bunnies and ritoky are lying about their back and forth.

the second scenario isnt even plausible.

and you still only have four people in your list. if youre going to call those people mafia, give reasoning for why you think that. everybody is sitting around posting shitlists that accomplish nothing and dont convince anyone of anything.


I never said he claims cop as VT, Im saying he claimed cop in one game as VT where he is wrong on me and I was town that game.

I am also sayin that this game is SUPER different than the huge Golden Sun factional game.
So him claiming cop in one game as VT doesnt mean he is doing it this game as VT. He could very well be mafia, and I think he is.



wat


What you were implying is that I say he always claims cop as vt. He did it in one game against me, where he was VT. And he did it this game, which I think he is mafia this game.

So saying that I admit ritoky claims cop as VT is wrong. He did it in one game. And i think he is mafia this game.


On June 21 2014 14:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:15 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:14 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Nope, i didn't get recruited.


oh, well in the end game listing i swore it said you got recruited...must have been part of that mod error.

Must have been, cause i never got a message.

But anyway, it doesnt matter if I was recuited or not. You fake claimed red on me when i was town.

Both times.

And this time.

Your read on me is awful.


?


By both times and this time, i was implying this time was in the both times. He has faked a red on me twice.

I think he attempted to do it this time as mafia, and his plan failed through.

I've stated this multiple times OWS.

Why are you trying so hard to bury me?


not really trying to bury you. youre doing that well enough on your own.

i still dont see what the difference is between this game and the other games where he has fakeclaimed, which is the exact reason youre pushing him as a lynch.

whats the difference and why should i listen to you?
Retired.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 23 2014 19:59 GMT
#5606
oh and for those who claim that me making kush green is a slip. i am sorry, but i am not as good as you, and i live in simple worlds. i don't really have the skill, nor did i even know it was possible, nor would i expect others to have to skill to anticipate their mafia partner being vigi shot and janitor them. just seems like a ridiculously convoluted play that someone would make up to try to confuse other players (the goal of mafia).
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 20:01 GMT
#5607
On June 24 2014 04:59 ritoky wrote:
oh and for those who claim that me making kush green is a slip. i am sorry, but i am not as good as you, and i live in simple worlds. i don't really have the skill, nor did i even know it was possible, nor would i expect others to have to skill to anticipate their mafia partner being vigi shot and janitor them. just seems like a ridiculously convoluted play that someone would make up to try to confuse other players (the goal of mafia).

huh?
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 20:03 GMT
#5608
Like, he's clearly just making shit up and posting random tidbits cause he has nothing to fucking contribute. He's either the dumbest town to ever play on TL* or he's mafia.




*I was his coach in his first newbie game. He's not the dumbest town to play on TL.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
June 23 2014 20:06 GMT
#5609
On June 24 2014 05:03 roundabound wrote:
Like, he's clearly just making shit up and posting random tidbits cause he has nothing to fucking contribute. He's either the dumbest town to ever play on TL* or he's mafia.




*I was his coach in his first newbie game. He's not the dumbest town to play on TL.


that last post of his was kind of atrocious.

though im also curious of who your "dumbest town on tl" is. maybe its because im a gossip queen, idk.
Retired.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 23 2014 20:07 GMT
#5610
On June 24 2014 05:03 roundabound wrote:
Like, he's clearly just making shit up and posting random tidbits cause he has nothing to fucking contribute. He's either the dumbest town to ever play on TL* or he's mafia.




*I was his coach in his first newbie game. He's not the dumbest town to play on TL.


what did i make up? from my understanding now you have to submit who you're janitoring in the night phase.

so in order to janitor a mafia teammate, you would have to anticipate them dying in the night, and pre-emptively janitor them.

it's not like the mod sends you a list of people dying after they have been killed and you get to pick one. at least in the process the mod described.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 23 2014 20:10 GMT
#5611
On June 24 2014 04:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 04:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
even bunnies admitted that ritoky claims cop as a vt. so either youre not paying attention or both bunnies and ritoky are lying about their back and forth.

the second scenario isnt even plausible.

and you still only have four people in your list. if youre going to call those people mafia, give reasoning for why you think that. everybody is sitting around posting shitlists that accomplish nothing and dont convince anyone of anything.


I never said he claims cop as VT, Im saying he claimed cop in one game as VT where he is wrong on me and I was town that game.

I am also sayin that this game is SUPER different than the huge Golden Sun factional game.
So him claiming cop in one game as VT doesnt mean he is doing it this game as VT. He could very well be mafia, and I think he is.



wat


What you were implying is that I say he always claims cop as vt. He did it in one game against me, where he was VT. And he did it this game, which I think he is mafia this game.

So saying that I admit ritoky claims cop as VT is wrong. He did it in one game. And i think he is mafia this game.


On June 21 2014 14:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:15 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:14 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Nope, i didn't get recruited.


oh, well in the end game listing i swore it said you got recruited...must have been part of that mod error.

Must have been, cause i never got a message.

But anyway, it doesnt matter if I was recuited or not. You fake claimed red on me when i was town.

Both times.

And this time.

Your read on me is awful.


?


By both times and this time, i was implying this time was in the both times. He has faked a red on me twice.

I think he attempted to do it this time as mafia, and his plan failed through.

I've stated this multiple times OWS.

Why are you trying so hard to bury me?


not really trying to bury you. youre doing that well enough on your own.

i still dont see what the difference is between this game and the other games where he has fakeclaimed, which is the exact reason youre pushing him as a lynch.

whats the difference and why should i listen to you?


I don't think I am burying myself at all. People have had trs on me all game.

And because, disregard the fake claim for a bit in the beginning. It will come up later though.

In all games I have played with ritoky as town, he has come out confident, hard, and active, pushing his reads and lynches and questioning hard on other people.

Now take a look at this game- he comes into the thread with a "Oh look freedom" post (From Cell 2), which seemed super forced. He then argues with chrom, He gave a list of reads, one of which his read was on Chrom as his TOP SCUM. The he afks. He comes back, gives another list of reads, again which include Chrom as his top scum, and then afks again. Not once in these few days has he questioned hard, been super confident, or pushed anything. This is not town ritoky im used to.

And I've had him on my scum list since day 1 of me replacing. And I made it known with voting him multiple times.

And he comes back. This time with his fakeclaim of cop, Chrom being his green check, me being his red.
By this time, I was getting pressured by some of the people I have on my list as mafia, so this seems like a possibilty of pushing me further under the pressure, and it might have worked if his claim hadnt of totally failed when Chrom claimed miller.

He realized his claim was falling apart, and rescinded and claimed VT.

So points I have against ritoky.
1. Not being normal town ritoky im used to.
2. Forced reads/ forced posts.
3. Green checked his top scum read and red checked someone who wasnt even in his reads. He actually never mentions me.
4. rescinds his cop claim and claims vt when he realizes his claim is going to shit.

So, can you see why I am mafia reading ritoky?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 23 2014 20:11 GMT
#5612
On June 24 2014 05:07 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 05:03 roundabound wrote:
Like, he's clearly just making shit up and posting random tidbits cause he has nothing to fucking contribute. He's either the dumbest town to ever play on TL* or he's mafia.




*I was his coach in his first newbie game. He's not the dumbest town to play on TL.


what did i make up? from my understanding now you have to submit who you're janitoring in the night phase.

so in order to janitor a mafia teammate, you would have to anticipate them dying in the night, and pre-emptively janitor them.

it's not like the mod sends you a list of people dying after they have been killed and you get to pick one. at least in the process the mod described.


It was fairly obvious that vig was gunning for him. You would have known that if you had read the thread. Whether he was town or mafia, there was definitely incentive to use the janitor shot on him.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 23 2014 20:11 GMT
#5613
On June 24 2014 05:07 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 05:03 roundabound wrote:
Like, he's clearly just making shit up and posting random tidbits cause he has nothing to fucking contribute. He's either the dumbest town to ever play on TL* or he's mafia.




*I was his coach in his first newbie game. He's not the dumbest town to play on TL.


what did i make up? from my understanding now you have to submit who you're janitoring in the night phase.

so in order to janitor a mafia teammate, you would have to anticipate them dying in the night, and pre-emptively janitor them.

it's not like the mod sends you a list of people dying after they have been killed and you get to pick one. at least in the process the mod described.


Koshi claimed he was shooting kush.

If that's not anticipation, idk what is
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 20:13 GMT
#5614
On June 24 2014 05:07 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 05:03 roundabound wrote:
Like, he's clearly just making shit up and posting random tidbits cause he has nothing to fucking contribute. He's either the dumbest town to ever play on TL* or he's mafia.




*I was his coach in his first newbie game. He's not the dumbest town to play on TL.


what did i make up? from my understanding now you have to submit who you're janitoring in the night phase.

so in order to janitor a mafia teammate, you would have to anticipate them dying in the night, and pre-emptively janitor them.

it's not like the mod sends you a list of people dying after they have been killed and you get to pick one. at least in the process the mod described.

1) Koshi said who he was shooting
2) You don't have to be the one submitting things to the mods
3) I don't see why this makes kush mafia or town
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 23 2014 20:15 GMT
#5615
[QUOTE]On June 24 2014 05:10 27ninjabunnies wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 24 2014 04:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 24 2014 04:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 24 2014 04:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 24 2014 04:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 24 2014 04:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 24 2014 04:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 24 2014 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
even bunnies admitted that ritoky claims cop as a vt. so either youre not paying attention or both bunnies and ritoky are lying about their back and forth.

the second scenario isnt even plausible.

and you still only have four people in your list. if youre going to call those people mafia, give reasoning for why you think that. everybody is sitting around posting shitlists that accomplish nothing and dont convince anyone of anything.[/QUOTE]

I never said he claims cop as VT, Im saying he claimed cop in one game as VT where he is wrong on me and I was town that game.

I am also sayin that this game is SUPER different than the huge Golden Sun factional game.
So him claiming cop in one game as VT doesnt mean he is doing it this game as VT. He could very well be mafia, and I think he is.

[/QUOTE]

wat[/QUOTE]

What you were implying is that I say he always claims cop as vt. He did it in one game against me, where he was VT. And he did it this game, which I think he is mafia this game.

So saying that I admit ritoky claims cop as VT is wrong. He did it in one game. And i think he is mafia this game.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]On June 21 2014 14:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 21 2014 14:15 ritoky wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 21 2014 14:14 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Nope, i didn't get recruited.[/QUOTE]

oh, well in the end game listing i swore it said you got recruited...must have been part of that mod error.[/QUOTE]
Must have been, cause i never got a message.

But anyway, it doesnt matter if I was recuited or not. You fake claimed red on me when i was town.

Both times.

And this time.

Your read on me is awful.[/QUOTE]

?[/QUOTE]

By both times and this time, i was implying this time was in the both times. He has faked a red on me twice.

I think he attempted to do it this time as mafia, and his plan failed through.

I've stated this multiple times OWS.

Why are you trying so hard to bury me?
[/QUOTE]


So points I have against ritoky.
1. Not being normal town ritoky im used to.
2. Forced reads/ forced posts.
3. Green checked his top scum read and red checked someone who wasnt even in his reads. He actually never mentions me.
4. rescinds his cop claim and claims vt when he realizes his claim is going to shit.

So, can you see why I am mafia reading ritoky?[/QUOTE]

1) you're right, but for the wrong reasons.
2) none of it has been forced, i tunneled on someone in GS just like i did this game, and i tunneled on someone in the newbie mafia just like i did this game.
3) you're wrong, i did mention that you were playing your mafia meta by speaking in the passive voice and giving non-committal answers, which you have since adjusted.
4) if i was mafia i would have stuck the claim out, take that for what you want.

5) question: 5 people are voting on me currently, are you wrong or are they all town?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 23 2014 20:15 GMT
#5616
well that post messed up lol
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 23 2014 20:18 GMT
#5617
On June 24 2014 05:15 ritoky wrote:
well that post messed up lol


The five people are

Me- Vanilla Town
VA- on my mafia scum list
Chrom- Tracker Claim
Sinani- Tracker claim
Holyflare- top town read outside of claims


So that's 4 town, and 1 possible mafia bus from my pov.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 23 2014 20:20 GMT
#5618
On June 24 2014 05:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 05:15 ritoky wrote:
well that post messed up lol


The five people are

Me- Vanilla Town
VA- on my mafia scum list
Chrom- Tracker Claim
Sinani- Tracker claim
Holyflare- top town read outside of claims


So that's 4 town, and 1 possible mafia bus from my pov.


i agree that you and holyflare are aligned, you have both been pushing lynches on lurkers all game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 23 2014 20:21 GMT
#5619
On June 24 2014 05:20 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 05:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 24 2014 05:15 ritoky wrote:
well that post messed up lol


The five people are

Me- Vanilla Town
VA- on my mafia scum list
Chrom- Tracker Claim
Sinani- Tracker claim
Holyflare- top town read outside of claims


So that's 4 town, and 1 possible mafia bus from my pov.


i agree that you and holyflare are aligned, you have both been pushing lynches on lurkers all game.


yeah that makes them the same for sure i agree 100%
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 23 2014 20:22 GMT
#5620
On June 24 2014 05:21 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 05:20 ritoky wrote:
On June 24 2014 05:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 24 2014 05:15 ritoky wrote:
well that post messed up lol


The five people are

Me- Vanilla Town
VA- on my mafia scum list
Chrom- Tracker Claim
Sinani- Tracker claim
Holyflare- top town read outside of claims


So that's 4 town, and 1 possible mafia bus from my pov.


i agree that you and holyflare are aligned, you have both been pushing lynches on lurkers all game.


yeah that makes them the same for sure i agree 100%

I too agree that they are both town.
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