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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 21 2014 02:23 GMT
#5061
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.

##Vote: marv
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 21 2014 02:38 GMT
#5062
On June 21 2014 11:22 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 11:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, so i was being town read, and now im on the top of everyone's scum list.

And i see NO reasons as to why I am scum. Like no cases whatsoever.

Its obv mafia are trying to push a ml on me, which leads me inclined to believe i have a few mafia within my lynch list.


Trying to push a ML on you? There's like a unanimous vote on me. You know I am gonna flip VT and scared of the train coming for you tmrw?

Why are you so defensive?


Haha Im not even remotely defensive.
I just find it silly that you claimed a red on me, and people were easily willing to jump on it, when the majority of them were tr me.

Even if you claimed cop, with me not being here to defend myself, it just seems super scummy.

And also batsnacks (another scumread of mine) was all like, oh yeah, ninjabunnies has been a scum read f mine all game.

So, nah. I have no reason to be defensive. Im town. Irdc if yall scumread, but the reasons of the scumreads are nonexistant.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 21 2014 02:39 GMT
#5063
On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.

##Vote: marv


This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 21 2014 02:39 GMT
#5064
On June 21 2014 11:23 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 11:20 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:09 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:06 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 21 2014 10:53 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 10:44 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 21 2014 10:38 ritoky wrote:
and so people can stop trying to interpret my thought process, i will tell you it:

step 1) let's read mafia thread
step 2) nothing really interesting is going on here...it's the same people pushing the same exact reads on the same lurkers; and they refuse to doubt eachother
step 3) i am bored, maybe i should liven this game up
step 4) well i am pretty sure bunnies is mafia, maybe i should fake claim a red on her
step 5) hey look chrom is here, maybe i should use my going hard on him as an excuse to keep a green check alive
step 6) come out as cop too hard before getting reactions
step 7) cascade into flames
step 8) rescind claim
step 9) probably get lynched for bad play


I was just going to ask about this. Thanks for posting it ahead to time.

Question, what did you mean in step 5?

Also, if you decided to fake claim a red on 27nb before you went in, why didn't you wait for 27nb to be on? From how you came out, it sounds a lot more like you decided redcheck 27nb after coming out as cop.


27nb posted like an hour or 2 before I made the claim the she was around and babysitting (might have had times wrong) so I thought she was here.

Re step 5: people were going to push for checks either before or after the reaction, it is not uncommon (at least where I come from) to half-heartedly tunnel on your n1 green check as a cop. plus chrom was in the thread so he could give response to the situation.


I still don't understand your step 5 though. You are not the cop, so what does Chrom's green check have to do with anything?


If you claim cop, people will ask for checks. They always do, even if you fake claim and rescind; they always ask for every check. So you need to have checks thought up. So I thought up a basic reason for a green check on chrom, mostly because he was here and I wanted to interact with him (since I had him as scum and every1 i town read had him as town).

If you're looking for a good answer, you're not in luck. It was bad play.


I'm trying to see this from a perspective where the play wasn't planned well.

So you needed to have some fake green check, I understand that. But to put your #1 scum as the greencheck isn't the something I can see you doing 'on-the-whim'. If I was cornered and needed to produce a fake greencheck right away, I would say marv.

I'll give this some more thought, but things just aren't lining up atm.


why would any1 night 1 check marv after he led the lynch on a mafia, even more a mafia that reduced kp?

you wouldn't have been believed lol.


You're right, but if I'm going to be looking at this from a perspective of a bad play, I can't rule out poor decisions.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
June 21 2014 02:39 GMT
#5065
everytime i get close to lynching CR someone takes it away from me.

this game is ass.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 21 2014 02:42 GMT
#5066
On June 21 2014 11:39 Rainbows wrote:
everytime i get close to lynching CR someone takes it away from me.

this game is ass.


how would you feel if i told you that you were town?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 21 2014 02:45 GMT
#5067
On June 21 2014 11:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.

##Vote: marv


This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me.


What are you going to do about it?
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 21 2014 02:45 GMT
#5068
On June 21 2014 11:42 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 11:39 Rainbows wrote:
everytime i get close to lynching CR someone takes it away from me.

this game is ass.


how would you feel if i told you that you were town?


Inb4 he pulls a ritoky.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 21 2014 02:45 GMT
#5069
On June 21 2014 11:45 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 11:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.

##Vote: marv


This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me.


What are you going to do about it?


Vote ritoky then lynch you tomorrow.

I feel like that is a pretty good plan.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
June 21 2014 02:46 GMT
#5070
On June 21 2014 11:42 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 11:39 Rainbows wrote:
everytime i get close to lynching CR someone takes it away from me.

this game is ass.


how would you feel if i told you that you were town?


i swear to god if you are the cop ray

and youd be telling me something i knew day 1
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 21 2014 02:48 GMT
#5071
On June 21 2014 11:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 11:45 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.

##Vote: marv


This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me.


What are you going to do about it?


Vote ritoky then lynch you tomorrow.

I feel like that is a pretty good plan.


Why not vote marv with me? At least consider it as an alternative to your plan.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 21 2014 02:52 GMT
#5072
On June 21 2014 11:48 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 11:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:45 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.

##Vote: marv


This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me.


What are you going to do about it?


Vote ritoky then lynch you tomorrow.

I feel like that is a pretty good plan.


Why not vote marv with me? At least consider it as an alternative to your plan.


I feel that if you are going to vote marv, SnB needs to flip first. The vote on day 1 was between SnB and a mafia. Would be extremely weird for marv to take the lynch off a town and onto his mafia buddy, costing them 1 kp. I can see him doing it if SnB was mafia though.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 21 2014 02:54 GMT
#5073
On June 21 2014 11:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 11:48 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:45 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.

##Vote: marv


This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me.


What are you going to do about it?


Vote ritoky then lynch you tomorrow.

I feel like that is a pretty good plan.


Why not vote marv with me? At least consider it as an alternative to your plan.


I feel that if you are going to vote marv, SnB needs to flip first. The vote on day 1 was between SnB and a mafia. Would be extremely weird for marv to take the lynch off a town and onto his mafia buddy, costing them 1 kp. I can see him doing it if SnB was mafia though.


I know you're supporting me bat, but I agree with this ^
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 21 2014 02:58 GMT
#5074
On June 21 2014 11:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 11:48 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:45 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.

##Vote: marv


This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me.


What are you going to do about it?


Vote ritoky then lynch you tomorrow.

I feel like that is a pretty good plan.


Why not vote marv with me? At least consider it as an alternative to your plan.


I feel that if you are going to vote marv, SnB needs to flip first. The vote on day 1 was between SnB and a mafia. Would be extremely weird for marv to take the lynch off a town and onto his mafia buddy, costing them 1 kp. I can see him doing it if SnB was mafia though.


I'm not saying you're wrong but lets be real. No one is going to switch off of ritoky because it's the easy answer and people want the easy answer. Ritoky made a mistake and now everyone gets to punish him for it. That's what people like doing. I don't think the easy answer is the correct one this time so screw the majority I'm voting marv for now.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 21 2014 03:02 GMT
#5075
On June 21 2014 11:58 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 11:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:48 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:45 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.

##Vote: marv


This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me.


What are you going to do about it?


Vote ritoky then lynch you tomorrow.

I feel like that is a pretty good plan.


Why not vote marv with me? At least consider it as an alternative to your plan.


I feel that if you are going to vote marv, SnB needs to flip first. The vote on day 1 was between SnB and a mafia. Would be extremely weird for marv to take the lynch off a town and onto his mafia buddy, costing them 1 kp. I can see him doing it if SnB was mafia though.


I'm not saying you're wrong but lets be real. No one is going to switch off of ritoky because it's the easy answer and people want the easy answer. Ritoky made a mistake and now everyone gets to punish him for it. That's what people like doing. I don't think the easy answer is the correct one this time so screw the majority I'm voting marv for now.


But if you cared about the town winning, and thought I was town, then why aren't you pushing a more plausible option? I am pretty sure marv is a lot of people's very unlikely to lynch list. If you just want to be here to say I told you so when I flip VT, then proceed. But if you actually care about town winning, I would suggest pushing a more plausible/likely to happen case.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 21 2014 03:04 GMT
#5076
On June 21 2014 11:48 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 11:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:45 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.

##Vote: marv


This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me.


What are you going to do about it?


Vote ritoky then lynch you tomorrow.

I feel like that is a pretty good plan.


Why not vote marv with me? At least consider it as an alternative to your plan.


Why would I consider this as an alternative?

Especially when 1. One of my top scumreads fakeclaimed a red on me.
The guy who wants to go on one of my top townreads is one of my scumreads.

So no, unless I have reason to vote marv, which he is top town, then no, I will not consider it as an alternative.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 21 2014 03:06 GMT
#5077
Let's go ahead and cover some things.

The 2-shot rolecop. You likely should've gotten both your checks by now. Nows a good time to come out if you've gotten both in. If you have a role check on someone, and have a 50/50 or worse vibe on them, claim your role with a check on them and force them to claim their role first.

The alignment cop. If you have ritoky as town, now is a good time to come out and prevent a mislynch. If you have a red check, now is a great time to come out (unless it's on ritoky and he looks like he's going to be the lynch). If you have 2 alive lurker type green checks, now is a decent time to come out.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 21 2014 03:09 GMT
#5078
On June 21 2014 12:02 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 11:58 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:48 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:45 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.

##Vote: marv


This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me.


What are you going to do about it?


Vote ritoky then lynch you tomorrow.

I feel like that is a pretty good plan.


Why not vote marv with me? At least consider it as an alternative to your plan.


I feel that if you are going to vote marv, SnB needs to flip first. The vote on day 1 was between SnB and a mafia. Would be extremely weird for marv to take the lynch off a town and onto his mafia buddy, costing them 1 kp. I can see him doing it if SnB was mafia though.


I'm not saying you're wrong but lets be real. No one is going to switch off of ritoky because it's the easy answer and people want the easy answer. Ritoky made a mistake and now everyone gets to punish him for it. That's what people like doing. I don't think the easy answer is the correct one this time so screw the majority I'm voting marv for now.


But if you cared about the town winning, and thought I was town, then why aren't you pushing a more plausible option? I am pretty sure marv is a lot of people's very unlikely to lynch list. If you just want to be here to say I told you so when I flip VT, then proceed. But if you actually care about town winning, I would suggest pushing a more plausible/likely to happen case.


More plausible option? Like who? I'm confident in this moment that there is zero chance of you not being lynched, even if I vote marv all day.

On June 21 2014 12:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 11:48 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:45 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.

##Vote: marv


This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me.


What are you going to do about it?


Vote ritoky then lynch you tomorrow.

I feel like that is a pretty good plan.


Why not vote marv with me? At least consider it as an alternative to your plan.


Why would I consider this as an alternative?

Especially when 1. One of my top scumreads fakeclaimed a red on me.
The guy who wants to go on one of my top townreads is one of my scumreads.

So no, unless I have reason to vote marv, which he is top town, then no, I will not consider it as an alternative.


Come on, you KNOW you want to. Everyone here wants to. Just give it a try, you can always change later!
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 21 2014 03:10 GMT
#5079
On June 21 2014 11:58 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 11:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:48 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:45 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.

##Vote: marv


This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me.


What are you going to do about it?


Vote ritoky then lynch you tomorrow.

I feel like that is a pretty good plan.


Why not vote marv with me? At least consider it as an alternative to your plan.


I feel that if you are going to vote marv, SnB needs to flip first. The vote on day 1 was between SnB and a mafia. Would be extremely weird for marv to take the lynch off a town and onto his mafia buddy, costing them 1 kp. I can see him doing it if SnB was mafia though.


I'm not saying you're wrong but lets be real. No one is going to switch off of ritoky because it's the easy answer and people want the easy answer. Ritoky made a mistake and now everyone gets to punish him for it. That's what people like doing. I don't think the easy answer is the correct one this time so screw the majority I'm voting marv for now.


I'm glad we are keeping this case open though. There is so much information here that if we look enough, we can determine a very high likelihood if ritoky is town or if ritoky is mafia. Every lynch after this will be more of a coinflip because nobody will pull another ritoky. If we only get two mislynches, I sincerely hope this isn't one of them.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 21 2014 03:13 GMT
#5080
On June 21 2014 12:10 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 11:58 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:48 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:45 batsnacks wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.

##Vote: marv


This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me.


What are you going to do about it?


Vote ritoky then lynch you tomorrow.

I feel like that is a pretty good plan.


Why not vote marv with me? At least consider it as an alternative to your plan.


I feel that if you are going to vote marv, SnB needs to flip first. The vote on day 1 was between SnB and a mafia. Would be extremely weird for marv to take the lynch off a town and onto his mafia buddy, costing them 1 kp. I can see him doing it if SnB was mafia though.


I'm not saying you're wrong but lets be real. No one is going to switch off of ritoky because it's the easy answer and people want the easy answer. Ritoky made a mistake and now everyone gets to punish him for it. That's what people like doing. I don't think the easy answer is the correct one this time so screw the majority I'm voting marv for now.


I'm glad we are keeping this case open though. There is so much information here that if we look enough, we can determine a very high likelihood if ritoky is town or if ritoky is mafia. Every lynch after this will be more of a coinflip because nobody will pull another ritoky. If we only get two mislynches, I sincerely hope this isn't one of them.


It is, unfortunately I probably put you guys in MYLO the rest of the way. Sorry.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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