TL 'Order' LXVI Mafia - Page 256

On June 21 2014 12:51 Rainbows wrote:
last time i.made a case, on keto, nobody read it.i just dont care anymore cus only a few townies actually tried this game

On June 21 2014 12:36 ritoky wrote:
question for anyone and everyone who wants to answer: when i flip VT, who do you think looked the worst amidst all of this? why?

if you don't believe i am VT, then replace "when i flip" with "in the world that i flip"

On June 21 2014 12:57 TicaTica wrote:

I forget who it was that +1'd my case, maybe CR or Exo. But I didn't come out of my case thinking that it's a 1000% slam dunk. Like it's half association on unflipped players. I think it's a reasonable-ish set of points on both you and bunnies. Plus VA has an ok point on "me being so scum on you gives you an ok shot to be town."

On June 21 2014 13:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i cant read into this mess at all. this is all complete unreadable nonsense.

somebody hold me.

On June 21 2014 12:36 ritoky wrote:
question for anyone and everyone who wants to answer: when i flip VT, who do you think looked the worst amidst all of this? why?

if you don't believe i am VT, then replace "when i flip" with "in the world that i flip"

On June 21 2014 13:20 ritoky wrote:


you can't squeeze 1 coherent thought or read out of an explosion of activity?

or you don't want to?

On June 21 2014 13:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


...either?

On June 21 2014 10:10 TicaTica wrote:
First off:

This makes no sense. Two days earlier he was all in on Chrome, Ket, Sinani and CR. Does he not care about any of those reads? He doesn't bother pushing them whatsoever.


Plus he had a mystically awful reason for a townread on me previously for me saying King wasn't a bad lynch but I wasn't going to vote for it but Marv was going to get his lynch regardless.

That earlier stuff aside...

This is not a post of a player who's planning to red check Ninja bunnies and green check Chrome. You don't plan to ask your green check what they think of your redcheck. You ask the other way around and you ask your redcheck about other people. On top of that you don't claim a check prior to inquiring on people. Like if this is a planned "reaction check " from a townie, talking about that check fake or not completely invalidates any point in asking the people.

Next, he wants to pit his "red check" against his "green check" and posts this.



If he's town and fake claiming, what does he think he plans to gain from this? Any townie goes "well I'm town so other guy is scum, cool?" If he hits GF, they still react that way because they 'know" it's fake (other person isn't mafia) or they bus their partner like any sane being and proceed on happy to be green checked.

I can't think of any world where this plan actually works. The mafia in a town/mafia split starts pointing at the townie like any sane being and hopes that the cop is fake or that they have more sway/cred than him.

Plus this plan is ridiculously convoluted and outlandish. I've seen enough crazy shit in my day, but this is too far out in left field. It's more likely that this is a scum we who is trying to think of a wacky town gambit more than actual town gambit.

On top of this, look how ritoky responds to the pressure in thread. People want to know who the red check was. Marv's getting pissed about lynching town after a redcheck has happened and the cop didn't claim.


This response is clear. This is no longer a reaction test of Chrome or NB. He hasn't put pressure on either of them with this a AND he hasn't figured out who he thinks is the easier target to fake claim on. The point of what he's doing isn't get a reaction; or else he'd make sure chrome/NB is around. It becomes obvious that he has to pick a choice to redcheck or he gets lynched. He decided to go with NB.

In general scum under pressure finger their partner more than they do town, because it's far far easier to sound good/right/towny/believable that way. I'm pretty sure that's the case here too. Ritoky has previously wholly ignored NB. NB has been pushing against ritoky but finding other people to land on.

It's a really weird reaction.

Plus this plan is ridiculously convoluted and outlandish. I've seen enough crazy shit in my day, but this is too far out in left field. It's more likely that this is a scum we who is trying to think of a wacky town gambit more than actual town gambit.

On June 21 2014 13:26 ritoky wrote:


so you don't want to comment on the largest amount of activity in like 4 days, and we should believe you're town......why?

On June 16 2014 17:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
we need to focus on four things:
a) pressuring the people who were off both wagons.
b) pushing our reads within reason
c) looking to understand where other players are coming from instead of just looking for opportunities to attack each other.
d) playing the game.

On June 21 2014 13:45 ketomai wrote:
l'm assuming something major happened...lol. Gonna be at a melee tournament at deadline again. So once again I've gotta skim by for one more day, sorry guys.

On June 21 2014 13:47 ritoky wrote:


I started reading your filter cuz you literally have left nearly no impression on me at all this game.

I came to a couple realizations:
#1) you still leave no impression on me...and i am beginning to wonder if that's by design?
#2) you've given very few reads
#3) what you previously said is directly contrary to the advice you were giving town earlier.

so have you adopted the not playing the game mentality?

On June 21 2014 13:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


i dont give a shit about you because youre getting lynched with or without my input, and you probably gave the mafia a free pass for today. again.

there, i actually gave you a read and thats way more than you deserve for the move you pulled.