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On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.
Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.
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On June 12 2014 05:42 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:40 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:38 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 05:37 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:35 marvellosity wrote:
Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually
Hmm.
*looks at Haru*
hmmmmmm Detention mafia is my first game in TL lol. Nice way to judge. I learnt some stuff over there that is changing my 'meta' a bit. first game or not, the difference is striking. how would you say your 'meta' is changing, then? For example, I've learnt through the death of JWZ that d1 is simply a day to collect info. Thus I'll try all means to collect info on d1, throw it out in a giant ball on n1 or d2 (depending if I survive the night) and home in on targets d2. that's a totally incorrect lesson to take. Also not what I was referring to with regards to how you're playing. Anyway I'm going to sit on this for a while and see what happens. I'm pretty tempted to vote for you though, which I guess must be quite annoying for you because i haven't specified why. but i'm not going to right now. maybe i should read your filter ;D
What defines a correct lesson exactly?
From my 1 game experience, I already know not to streamline my play to town|haru or scum|haru so that people can go 'town|haru dont do this so hes scum'. Meta is what I fear.
You can say I play pessimistic this game and that will be correct. I would have lost the previous game if I let others influence me into a mislynch. (Nothing to do with amiko).
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On June 12 2014 05:47 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:40 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:38 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 05:37 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:35 marvellosity wrote:
Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually
Hmm.
*looks at Haru*
hmmmmmm Detention mafia is my first game in TL lol. Nice way to judge. I learnt some stuff over there that is changing my 'meta' a bit. first game or not, the difference is striking. how would you say your 'meta' is changing, then? For example, I've learnt through the death of JWZ that d1 is simply a day to collect info. Thus I'll try all means to collect info on d1, throw it out in a giant ball on n1 or d2 (depending if I survive the night) and home in on targets d2. Haru, did you just claim power role?
Why are you more interested in theorizing if I claimed a power role over the actual message? Hmm...
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If power role is the only thing you see, scum is the only thing I see.
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On June 12 2014 05:54 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:40 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:26 ExO_ wrote:
Gumshoe, I don't see what makes you think I'm afraid to give out opinions on people. I think the vast majority of what's happening so far is silly speculation based on virtually nothing. I have no desire to join the super psycho-analyst club and explain why every little post means you either scum or town. When I've had opinions on people I've voiced them so far.
Though I think the early banter may serve a purpose, people are way to full of themselves if they honestly believe they can discern mafia based on whats happened so far. When I have something to add, I'll add it. Ultimately Exo, this is a game / : and I often feel like town players get that, but scum don't as a result of the fear we impose on them. A reluctance to post reads as fear to me but I've never played you before so I won't pretend as if I really know what your thinking. That said, I feel it's unfair of you to amount all that's been said to psycho analyst banter ) : a lot of interesting valid things have been said by your peers and if none of it appeals to you why are you playing this game? Speaking of which, your goal in this match is two fold, it is not enough to find scum, you have to prove to us that your town so that by the time you do offer up your true accusations we trust you enough to follow. that's why we all offer these reads ( even if they're not perfect) as opposed to hoarding our suspicions like menacing house wives. mmmm but I feel almost like it's rude to voice without good reasoning. For example, JAT has posted barely anything worthwhile imo, rarely posting more than a single sentence. I don't feel like he's doing anything to contribute towards town, and is just generally stirring things up while sitting back. But I don't have any major disagreements with the things he's saying, nor do I feel like me scrutinizing him is justified in this case as I have nothing really to go on. So I haven't said anything. Anybody else keeping up with the thread can clearly read what I'm reading and can make their own judgements on him. There's nothing I feel like I've noticed that needs to be voiced. Everybody else seems to have a better feel for everybody else, having played them in other games; this is my first game so I'm getting my first reads on everybody right now. I don't think it's fair for me to voice every thought and possibility that occurs to me just yet because I don't know everybody. I'm still forming my opinions, and I'd hate to undermine my ability to argue what I think later because I committed to an opinion too early (that I later changed my mind on.)
Don't lump me together with them, this is my second game here and I only played with chrom, who died quick. (Shot d1). I literally have no meta reads on anyone too.
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On June 12 2014 06:01 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:52 HaruRH wrote:
If power role is the only thing you see, scum is the only thing I see. So, you do or you don't understand why I thought you just claimed power role? Also medic on Haru please.
Spell it out for me.
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I still dont get your point batsnacks.
We have 24 hours of night, why cant I post my thoughts then? Why does it lead to a blue claim for stating that ill post my stuff on n1?
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On June 12 2014 17:55 Palmar wrote:
Very sneaky voting man this Haru.
I thought I said the vote on CR from me was a placeholder? SnB have some weird posts, will link them here in one sec, Filter dived him today.
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After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him:
On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically
Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum
On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]
Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case
Also would still kill rainbows
soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi.
On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said. Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better. This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .
Then he shitposts.
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On June 12 2014 19:27 marvellosity wrote:
So I've removed about half the game from my lynch pool:
Obiwan, Koshi, sinani, poofter, BM, gumshoe, roundabound, Palmar, batsnacks, yamato, Chromatically (pending meta check) because i think they're townish to varying degrees
then there's like sandroba, foolish, Holy, slam, Exo who I don't want to lynch atm for varying reasons (more time for 1&2&3, crapshoot for 4, good chance newbie town for 5)
So that leaves ritoky, rainbows, jat, MZ, Erandorr, kush, Kingofcats, CR, Haru, s&b, Tica, ketomai, Vayne
I could reasonably remove Erandor, kush, Vayne as total crapshoots similar to Slam (who was on a different list simply due to quantity of posting)
that leaves ritoky, rainbows, jat, MZ, kingofcats, CR, Haru, s&b, Tica, ketomai
as a stab i think i'd maybe want to leave tica, jat, rainbows alone today.
so ritoky, MZ, kingofcats, CR, haru, s&b, ketomai
probably i should concentrate mostly in that list.
Any reasons why I am included in this list?
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On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here.
So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads.
Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol
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On June 12 2014 20:29 Palmar wrote:
He might be just doing the ego, you know, he did play well last game.
:< no ego involved lol. But I am definitely trying out a different style this game.
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On June 12 2014 20:47 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol well if i thought you had been at all useful besides, the meta wouldn't matter... 
Hey marv if you wanna meta me, you need to re-read my posts to even use it as meta
Heres a short little rap by me to show you what I mean
On May 27 2014 12:07 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 12:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 12:01 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 11:56 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly I dont understand how this post had anything to do with what my case was on him? Nothing to do with it at all, just a crap post with no meaning other than for jabber to not feel so awkward with every post he makes To me, it seemed as if you were coaching him to change the topic in order to get pressure off of him. Why would you want to do that? I play with no targets in mind For the first day where it is still fun I only suspect But I do not attack I will not paint a target on the first day Because tails only show at night And thus we can hang those who Are deduced to be one next day No need to pressure in the first day, in my view Lynching him is still our aim, thus I will
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On June 12 2014 20:58 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 20:57 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:47 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol well if i thought you had been at all useful besides, the meta wouldn't matter... Hey marv if you wanna meta me, you need to re-read my posts to even use it as meta Heres a short little rap by me to show you what I mean On May 27 2014 12:07 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 12:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 12:01 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 11:56 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly I dont understand how this post had anything to do with what my case was on him? Nothing to do with it at all, just a crap post with no meaning other than for jabber to not feel so awkward with every post he makes To me, it seemed as if you were coaching him to change the topic in order to get pressure off of him. Why would you want to do that? I play with no targets in mind For the first day where it is still fun I only suspect But I do not attack I will not paint a target on the first day Because tails only show at night And thus we can hang those who Are deduced to be one next day No need to pressure in the first day, in my view Lynching him is still our aim, thus I will i have no idea what you're trying to say. i don't care for you sitting around arguing with me about your previous game.
I have no idea what are you trying to do here too marv. Firstly, you scumread me for not playing like the last game, to which I explain nothing much changed except for my attitude, even citing examples, and yet you dont care about arguing about my previous game....???
In what way are you supposed to be useful on d1? I'm not the type to scumread people based on 2 real life day worth of content, with no methods of deducing anything at all. Not everyone play like you all do.
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On June 12 2014 21:06 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 21:05 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:58 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 20:57 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:47 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol well if i thought you had been at all useful besides, the meta wouldn't matter... Hey marv if you wanna meta me, you need to re-read my posts to even use it as meta Heres a short little rap by me to show you what I mean On May 27 2014 12:07 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 12:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 12:01 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 11:56 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly I dont understand how this post had anything to do with what my case was on him? Nothing to do with it at all, just a crap post with no meaning other than for jabber to not feel so awkward with every post he makes To me, it seemed as if you were coaching him to change the topic in order to get pressure off of him. Why would you want to do that? I play with no targets in mind For the first day where it is still fun I only suspect But I do not attack I will not paint a target on the first day Because tails only show at night And thus we can hang those who Are deduced to be one next day No need to pressure in the first day, in my view Lynching him is still our aim, thus I will i have no idea what you're trying to say. i don't care for you sitting around arguing with me about your previous game. I have no idea what are you trying to do here too marv. Firstly, you scumread me for not playing like the last game, to which I explain nothing much changed except for my attitude, even citing examples, and yet you dont care about arguing about my previous game....??? In what way are you supposed to be useful on d1? I'm not the type to scumread people based on 2 real life day worth of content, with no methods of deducing anything at all. Not everyone play like you all do. if i have zero reason to think you are town, you are a valid lynch target. it's a very simple equation.
Then lynch me on d1 on the basis of not contributing. Simple.
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Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru.
Firstly, this haru guy don't even
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray
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On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting. Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.
At
On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him: Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically
Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]
Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case
Also would still kill rainbows soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi. Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said. Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better. This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten . Then he shitposts.
ALL.
Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself
On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol
Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH
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On June 13 2014 03:30 Chromatically wrote:ritoky's filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451310-tl-order-lxvi-mafia?user=ritokyritoky has talked about literally nothing else other than me (and occasionally MZ), which is absolutely ridiculous from a town perspective because I was never, in any world, getting lynched today. Every single one of his posts has to do with me. He doesn't give reads on lynch targets or people being discussed in the thread, he posts solely about me. Scum motivation: look like you're active and pushing a case, don't have to think about who you're voting until you "consolidate" at deadline, only have to maintain one read Town motivation: ??? You'll also notice that he never even pushes my case. He never tries to get other people to vote for me. As town, you would always try to get your one and only scumread lynched. As scum, you don't care, as long as you look active. Relatedly, he is only here when someone calls him out. Seriously. Look at his entire filter. It's either arguing with me, or arguing with marv. He always responds quickly when someone does call him out, but he never posts anything of his own accord. This is a 100% scum tactic. He's active lurking in the thread but doing nothing. He doesn't actually want to push the thread forward, he just cares about defending himself. His reasoning on me doesn't make sense (as I've said), because he doesn't actually believe it. What probably happened is that he saw Koshi's case on me and thought that I would be a good target to sheep onto, and then directly copied Koshi's reasoning from his case (explaining why his reasons are the same as Koshi's AND why he can't explain the TMI thing). Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 10:28 ritoky wrote:On June 12 2014 10:01 Chromatically wrote:On June 12 2014 09:49 ritoky wrote:On June 12 2014 09:35 Chromatically wrote:On June 12 2014 09:22 ritoky wrote:On June 12 2014 08:58 Chromatically wrote:
ritoky is a great second lynch if Koshi isn't happening. I like marv's point too.
I think I would go for a megalurker/someone who's not playing the game lynch after that. OMGUS, the scum hunting mindset you been talking about? Look, if you don't think that calling someone mafia for simply defending sianni (tiatica) qualifies you as having a strong read on sianni, then it is a difference of definitions. I think the proof is easily read in your filter. How is it a difference of definitions if I'm scum? Wouldn't it be me purposefully misrepresenting my play? Because I feel that the case I have already made follows very easily if you view what you gave as a strong read. I think you did. I can say it again, but it isn't going to change. I think you gave a disproportionately strong read on sianni from a pretty inconclusive response (I thought it was slightly scummy at best). In order to make said conclusion from not very much I feel you have extra information. The only people with extra information right now are mafia. Since then you've done nothing to alleviate my worries about you, you've been hard defending and OMGUSing (which is completely contrary to the scum hunting mindset you were critical of sianni for). And how is this not the exact same thing that you were critical of sianni for? On June 12 2014 09:41 Chromatically wrote:
I think ketomai totally depends on what he posts next. The thing that happened in thread could have easily been a townie startled by people jumping on him before he starts playing. I agree that it's weird that he feels like he has to vote between round and Exo, but it's not really scummy..? He could have easily left his vote on himself and that would draw less attention.
What he posts next is the important part. On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:
Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. You just did the same exact non-committal thing. "Could be red, wait and see what happens"; that's not the scum hunting mindset you were preaching. Once again, your extra information thing doesn't make sense. The only way I would have extra information about sinani that would give me a "too strong" read would be if we were scum together. The difference between what I posted and what sinani posted is that ketomai has probably not started playing the game yet, making trying to read him rather pointless. sinani's read on JAT is completely noncommittal and overqualified, which you and many others have agreed on. Comparing what we posted doesn't say anything about my alignment anyway (at best it would make me a hypocrite), so there was really no reason at all for you to include this. You can call it OMGUS if it makes you feel better, but that doesn't make the points against you less strong. Anyway, I think this conversation is no longer useful at all and that I've made my case sufficiently clear. Your read is exactly the same as the bolded portion. And hypocrisy and inconsistency can be scum mindset indicators, so I think they are relevant. And personally I don't think you have a case, hence why I think it is an OMGUS. You're defensive and OMGUSing which is the opposite of the mindset you were pushing others to have. All of that just adds depth. When I point out here that his hypocrisy reasons don't make me scum, he says that they can be "scum mindset indicators" which is vague garbage. He can't explain why hypocrisy would make me scum because he can't, it doesn't. He's not actually thinking about if I'm scum, he's looking for things to justify his read. - does not do anything other than argue with/about me - active lurking until people call him out - doesn't actually push me for lynch - reasoning doesn't make sense This is like 100% scum.
you lied, I counted 2 posts out of 15 posts that doesn't include your name or your quotes.... hmm...
I'll sheep you for today because you're in my town totem.
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On June 13 2014 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
it's nothing to do with sheeping me
it's totally disappearing after being active when i made my case
it's not contributing anything to the thread while kotc wagon was taking place
it's lazy +1 of some random case later
No. I watched the world cup (after sheeping chrom because I dont have time to read) with friends and slept after that for 12 hours.
I have just finished catching up with the thread and will post my stuff later, when I'm on a computer.
Of course, you can choose not to believe me.
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On June 13 2014 19:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:35 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
it's nothing to do with sheeping me
it's totally disappearing after being active when i made my case
it's not contributing anything to the thread while kotc wagon was taking place
it's lazy +1 of some random case later No. I watched the world cup (after sheeping chrom because I dont have time to read) with friends and slept after that for 12 hours. I have just finished catching up with the thread and will post my stuff later, when I'm on a computer. Of course, you can choose not to believe me. World cup wasn't on during that time period. World cup opening ceremony wasn't until about 7pm my time
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World cup started right when the lynch happened. I was already gone 1 hour before it.
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On June 13 2014 19:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:37 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 19:36 marvellosity wrote:On June 13 2014 19:35 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
it's nothing to do with sheeping me
it's totally disappearing after being active when i made my case
it's not contributing anything to the thread while kotc wagon was taking place
it's lazy +1 of some random case later No. I watched the world cup (after sheeping chrom because I dont have time to read) with friends and slept after that for 12 hours. I have just finished catching up with the thread and will post my stuff later, when I'm on a computer. Of course, you can choose not to believe me. World cup wasn't on during that time period. World cup opening ceremony wasn't until about 7pm my time ??? World cup started right when the lynch happened. I was already gone 1 hour before it. That's not when I was talking about. I'm talking about how you were active RIGHT UP to the point I made my case on KotC and then you disappeared for many hours. Could well be coincidence. Could also not be.
Sorry, I had no interest to read any of your cases at that point because I was quite pissed. I don't even know the reason for lynching kotc, I just assumed what chrom said was true and it was a giant sheepfest.
coincidence or not, I believed my initial vote, snb to be more scummy and since everyone decided to go off the wagon, I chose chrom to sheep.
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