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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 15:10 GMT
#2253
because it's meaningless as a phrase and concept. making a couple of posts here and there throughout the day is making a couple of posts here and there throughout the day.

actively lurking is just some buzzword jargon that encompasses a whole range of stuff without really having any implications.

I mean if you think he's disconnected from the game or around and yet not engaging, stick to calling it that, that actually has meaning
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 15:10 GMT
#2254
On June 14 2014 00:09 mattisfoolish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
yes that's Fool.

no its matt

it was Fool.

you are matt.

don't try play games with me mattyboy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 15:16 GMT
#2258
On June 14 2014 00:15 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 00:10 marvellosity wrote:
because it's meaningless as a phrase and concept. making a couple of posts here and there throughout the day is making a couple of posts here and there throughout the day.

actively lurking is just some buzzword jargon that encompasses a whole range of stuff without really having any implications.

I mean if you think he's disconnected from the game or around and yet not engaging, stick to calling it that, that actually has meaning

Okay, my point is that he's here throughout the day and yet choosing not to comment on anything other than direct questions/arguments to him, nearly all of which concern only his read on me. If he was town he would be interested in events in the thread and would give other reads, if he was scum he would want to post in the thread as little as possible and maintain as few strong reads as possible.

it's definitely possible he is mafia

i already said on d1 why i was hesitant about lynching him then, and Foolish also said some stuff.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 15:26 GMT
#2261
it's not DP.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 15:32 GMT
#2264
On June 14 2014 00:31 ketomai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 00:17 mattisfoolish wrote:
On June 14 2014 00:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 14 2014 00:09 mattisfoolish wrote:
On June 13 2014 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
yes that's Fool.

no its matt

Well, I am somehow afraid this attempt to get you to speak will be futile but it would be really appreciated if you would give us at least some thoughts behind those reads or even in general.

sure!

MZ hasnt done anything this game while his town play usually has him actively speaking his mind and calling people out

Sandroba's town play includes destroying scum, while his mafia play includes lots of inactivity

The other 2 are not extremely substantiated but they have an off feel. For example ketomai seems like he has no confidence in any of what hes posting. Obi phil has a bad feeling about



I don't see the problem with not being confident about anything on the first day. In fact, the "stunning" case marv made for KoC actually did not seem that convincing to me personally. The lynch was so easy (among other reasons) that it makes me think he could possibly be bussing.

Maybe it's just my personal preference, but I like to use more concrete evidence like voting patterns and associative evidence, which is not available on the first day.

it's available now, knock yourself out
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 15:39 GMT
#2270
me? I don't have one.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 15:40 GMT
#2271
On June 14 2014 00:37 ketomai wrote:
I already gave what I thought based on the KoC lynch previously. I'll probably have more after the night actions are done.

I'd love to hear your case against me, btw.

IF you like associations, don't you find it rather unlikely that KotC would confidently declare his scumbuddy town as his first/only townread? (exo)

Mafia basically never do this. Mafia love to call townies town though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 15:54 GMT
#2280
On June 14 2014 00:53 Palmar wrote:
Like that comment on MZ is asinine.

it's matt though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 15:57 GMT
#2284
On June 14 2014 00:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Calling my shot on VA.

are you for realsies?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 16:02 GMT
#2289
On June 14 2014 01:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 00:57 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2014 00:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Calling my shot on VA.

are you for realsies?

100%
Not gonna be around any closer to the deadline, I'm phone posting on my way out.

VA is actually playing the game a bit

kush is claiming jester and begging to be lynched.

please don't be a poopyhead.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 16:04 GMT
#2291
On June 14 2014 01:01 ketomai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 00:40 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2014 00:37 ketomai wrote:
I already gave what I thought based on the KoC lynch previously. I'll probably have more after the night actions are done.

I'd love to hear your case against me, btw.

IF you like associations, don't you find it rather unlikely that KotC would confidently declare his scumbuddy town as his first/only townread? (exo)

Mafia basically never do this. Mafia love to call townies town though.


Assuming you're not bussing: That comment looks more to me like he's just trying to post an easy read so he has some content and it backfired because he played badly. I don't think he expected people to jump on that "obvious" read. He admitted he's bad at playing mafia; I do not find it strange. Also, before that several people (including yourself) posted something along the lines of "anyone who thinks Exo is scum is trash", which makes it an even easier fake read because it's not a controversial statement.

I also am not sure enough that Exo is mafia to contemplate KotC's actions regarding him yet, but it's definitely something to look at later.

Most good associative reads will require more than just one mafia flip/voting cycle.Facts like that will become stronger as the game goes on, but I think it's inefficient to think about them now.

only roundabound said that.

If it's an "easy read" on Exo, that means Exo is town.

Nothing you say is particularly logical.

And your last paragraph. I guess you'll be useful on day 9 when there are 3 players left, but not before, amirite?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 16:06 GMT
#2293
On June 14 2014 01:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 01:02 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2014 01:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On June 14 2014 00:57 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2014 00:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Calling my shot on VA.

are you for realsies?

100%
Not gonna be around any closer to the deadline, I'm phone posting on my way out.

VA is actually playing the game a bit

kush is claiming jester and begging to be lynched.

please don't be a poopyhead.

I mean VA told us to lynch him too but since you nailed cats I'm willing to sheep you marv. I'm changing it now. See yall later.

O.o unexpected. but ok.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 16:07 GMT
#2296
On June 14 2014 01:06 ketomai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 01:04 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2014 01:01 ketomai wrote:
On June 14 2014 00:40 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2014 00:37 ketomai wrote:
I already gave what I thought based on the KoC lynch previously. I'll probably have more after the night actions are done.

I'd love to hear your case against me, btw.

IF you like associations, don't you find it rather unlikely that KotC would confidently declare his scumbuddy town as his first/only townread? (exo)

Mafia basically never do this. Mafia love to call townies town though.


Assuming you're not bussing: That comment looks more to me like he's just trying to post an easy read so he has some content and it backfired because he played badly. I don't think he expected people to jump on that "obvious" read. He admitted he's bad at playing mafia; I do not find it strange. Also, before that several people (including yourself) posted something along the lines of "anyone who thinks Exo is scum is trash", which makes it an even easier fake read because it's not a controversial statement.

I also am not sure enough that Exo is mafia to contemplate KotC's actions regarding him yet, but it's definitely something to look at later.

Most good associative reads will require more than just one mafia flip/voting cycle.Facts like that will become stronger as the game goes on, but I think it's inefficient to think about them now.

only roundabound said that.

If it's an "easy read" on Exo, that means Exo is town.

Nothing you say is particularly logical.

And your last paragraph. I guess you'll be useful on day 9 when there are 3 players left, but not before, amirite?


Lol, I would accept that comment from you if it were 3-4 days in, but it's been 1 day and 1 voting cycle. Not everyone can find mafia after 1 day like you can.

And by easy read I meant he thought people would ignore it and it'd be inconsequential. It could be he did not think who he found evidence for mattered as long as it was easy and it seemed like he contributed.

but it's not easy to find evidence that a team-mate is town, because they are not town

it's easy to find evidence a townie is town, because they are town

that's kinda the point of it being easy you see
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 16:15 GMT
#2299
Actually it means Exo is quite likely to be town.

Also batsnacks is very likely to be town based on only KotC's filter. That's the two useful associations from that flip and filter.

Like I said before, mafia almost never throw out an "easy" solid townread on a scumbuddy as their opening read. Even less likely that someone who is bad at scum would do so.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 16:16 GMT
#2300
On June 14 2014 01:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
oh yea we know mafia has a bunch of sick power roles so MZ rolling around shooting the easiest targets really doesnt sit well with me. I am fairly certain that kush and me are not mafia.

interesting to say the least but I guess its consistent

I thought this also. But then I thought MZ is taking a risk randomly claiming vigi like that. If there's a real vigi then he'd be super suspicious of MZ right now and i'm finding it hard thinking of anyone that MZ would win a showdown with if there was a counterclaim (which i don't think should happen right now, town may have two town vigis, even though i find this pretty unlikely, partly because of the pregame talk where the worry was that mafia did not have enough KP, so giving town a lot of KP does not make much sense).
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 16:18 GMT
#2302
didn't say they were?

.....
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 16:19 GMT
#2306
yes i randomly lynched my team-mate who was under no suspicion and lowered our KP for shits and giggles.

Well done roundabound.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 16:19 GMT
#2307
On June 14 2014 01:19 Holyflare wrote:
i wouldn't think it's very unlikely that town would have 2 vig's

i would. for the reasons i said.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 16:19 GMT
#2308
holy: vigis are 2-shot. not 1-shot.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 16:20 GMT
#2310
On June 14 2014 01:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
yea if we're gaming the setup then I think MZ is 100% mafia

from a logical standpoint he has done nothing wrong

not much more to say about that, gonna wait for night.

that makes no sense, and is the opposite of what i was saying
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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