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On June 13 2014 23:38 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 23:34 Chromatically wrote:On June 13 2014 23:32 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 23:32 Chromatically wrote:On June 13 2014 23:30 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 23:24 Chromatically wrote:
I don't know if I would say he's my "new target", I think the flip makes him look bad and there's nothing particularly townie in his filter. You completely agree with marv on his post about haru, you say there's nothing towny in his filter and his vote makes him look bad. Is there another word that's supposed to be coming out of your mouth that you just aren't saying? Uh what? I assume you want me to say that he's scum, I thought it was implied. I just didn't like the wording of "new target" like he's the one person I want to lynch. I think your votes looked like one of the worst imo Okay. you spent the whole time talking about your ritoky case (which applied to many other people too but you still only chose ritoky) and then just briefly mentioned cats but you didn't even call him scummy Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 03:12 Chromatically wrote:
The case on Cats is good but it basically relies on him being experienced/good. He could be actually new or just really bad. ritoky has done things that are scum-motivated, not just bad. I'll consolidate my case because I think I wasn't very clear yesterday. tbh you clearly didn't even read anything i posted about kush or read his filters properly because you said it looked like the town game when it was worlds apart from it and then when cats was already being voted off and was definitely going to die you joined the wagon even though it was pretty much solid anyway, what was your motivation for that???
Are you serious?
The case on ritoky does not apply to anyone else. You said that before, I responded, and you ignored it (actually you said that you would "contemplate ritoky hardcore tonight" indicating that you thought it had merit?).
Literally the sentence before the one you highlighted says that the case on Cats is good ie he's scum. Later Slam pointed out that he wasn't actually new, so my objections were invalid. I make it pretty clear that I am fine with a Cats lynch.
I really didn't care about kush because if we weren't lynching Cats, we were lynching ritoky. As I said at the time, Cats lynch is way better than a kush lynch.
What's the scum motivation for switching my vote, even though it doesn't matter? Switching the vote at that point is essentially a symbolic gesture (one that scum would feel awkward about doing). I switched because ritoky clearly wasn't getting lynched, and I also liked a Cats lynch.
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On June 13 2014 23:40 TicaTica wrote:
Can we live in reality where Slam's alignment is a complete coin flip? He's been significantly less helpful this game than in a few previous. That's the major thing to note that could be said is even minorly alignment indicative. But any fuckhead who thinks they can read Slam in this game is just off their rocker. He's a fine vigi shot. He's maybe an ok lynch, but let's not bother spending time to actually read and analyze him and instead read and analyze people who are actually readable and discernable. At worst we can alway default to a Slam lynch as is the general omgus policy: "When in doubt, lynch Slam."
I agree that most of his play is unreadable. I do think that his actions around the lynch are scum-motivated, however, so I would more say he's like a weighted coinflip. Not the best lynch until later.
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Posting from phone. The only thing anyone has said about slam is that he neglected to share his info on cats, even when he was asked to. No one is analyzing things slam said, they are analyzing what he didn't say when he could, and should, have spoken up.
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On June 13 2014 23:53 batsnacks wrote:
Posting from phone. The only thing anyone has said about slam is that he neglected to share his info on cats, even when he was asked to. No one is analyzing things slam said, they are analyzing what he didn't say when he could, and should, have spoken up.
yes...?
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So like that thing tica just wrote sounded weird to me.
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oh i see. that makes much more sense with a bit of context. ok
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On June 13 2014 23:53 batsnacks wrote:
Posting from phone. The only thing anyone has said about slam is that he neglected to share his info on cats, even when he was asked to. No one is analyzing things slam said, they are analyzing what he didn't say when he could, and should, have spoken up.
You mean the fact that slam knew cats had good town play and didn't say anything? Would have saved a lot of trouble. He also didn't vote cats after the case which displayed anti his idea of cats good town play play, i.e. Scum play.
On the +side he actually mentioned it
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I don't get why people don't agree with me on ritoky.
On June 12 2014 12:33 ketomai wrote:
ritoky: Currently seems like mafia to me. He's on consistently throughout the day (his posts are very spread out), yet he doesn't really seem to contribute or address the game at all. He's just tunnel visioning Chromatically with nearly all his posts (who I personally have tagged as slightly town, so I naturally disagree with most of what he's saying).
Here's the post I was looking for about his active lurking, ketomai noticed it too.
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Chrome, I promise you you will immediately improve as a mafia player if you never use the phrase "active lurking" seriously again
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 why?
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On June 13 2014 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
yes that's Fool.
no its matt
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because it's meaningless as a phrase and concept. making a couple of posts here and there throughout the day is making a couple of posts here and there throughout the day.
actively lurking is just some buzzword jargon that encompasses a whole range of stuff without really having any implications.
I mean if you think he's disconnected from the game or around and yet not engaging, stick to calling it that, that actually has meaning
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On June 14 2014 00:09 mattisfoolish wrote:no its matt
it was Fool.
you are matt.
don't try play games with me mattyboy.
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On June 14 2014 00:09 mattisfoolish wrote:no its matt
Well, I am somehow afraid this attempt to get you to speak will be futile but it would be really appreciated if you would give us at least some thoughts behind those reads or even in general.
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On June 14 2014 00:10 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 00:09 mattisfoolish wrote:On June 13 2014 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
yes that's Fool. no its matt it was Fool. you are matt. don't try play games with me mattyboy.
i posted that list.
fool did our first posts, his last post was June 12 2014 19:41
these last few are mine
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On June 14 2014 00:10 marvellosity wrote:
because it's meaningless as a phrase and concept. making a couple of posts here and there throughout the day is making a couple of posts here and there throughout the day.
actively lurking is just some buzzword jargon that encompasses a whole range of stuff without really having any implications.
I mean if you think he's disconnected from the game or around and yet not engaging, stick to calling it that, that actually has meaning
Okay, my point is that he's here throughout the day and yet choosing not to comment on anything other than direct questions/arguments to him, nearly all of which concern only his read on me. If he was town he would be interested in events in the thread and would give other reads, if he was scum he would want to post in the thread as little as possible and maintain as few strong reads as possible.
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On June 14 2014 00:15 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 00:10 marvellosity wrote:
because it's meaningless as a phrase and concept. making a couple of posts here and there throughout the day is making a couple of posts here and there throughout the day.
actively lurking is just some buzzword jargon that encompasses a whole range of stuff without really having any implications.
I mean if you think he's disconnected from the game or around and yet not engaging, stick to calling it that, that actually has meaning Okay, my point is that he's here throughout the day and yet choosing not to comment on anything other than direct questions/arguments to him, nearly all of which concern only his read on me. If he was town he would be interested in events in the thread and would give other reads, if he was scum he would want to post in the thread as little as possible and maintain as few strong reads as possible.
it's definitely possible he is mafia
i already said on d1 why i was hesitant about lynching him then, and Foolish also said some stuff.
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On June 14 2014 00:12 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 00:09 mattisfoolish wrote:On June 13 2014 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
yes that's Fool. no its matt Well, I am somehow afraid this attempt to get you to speak will be futile but it would be really appreciated if you would give us at least some thoughts behind those reads or even in general.
sure!
MZ hasnt done anything this game while his town play usually has him actively speaking his mind and calling people out
Sandroba's town play includes destroying scum, while his mafia play includes lots of inactivity
The other 2 are not extremely substantiated but they have an off feel. For example ketomai seems like he has no confidence in any of what hes posting. Obi phil has a bad feeling about
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Well now we know it is dp. Bad feels are shared. Good thing mafia team will kill him now that marv is tripple stach protected.
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