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TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 13 2014 13:31 GMT
#2221
On June 13 2014 22:01 marvellosity wrote:
I think I might be onboard Koshi/foolish's MZ-mafia thingy.

All aboard. Come on. Everyone hop on the choo choo train.

I seriously haven't look at it and won't until saturday or sunday. Too busy until then.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 13 2014 14:08 GMT
#2222
On June 13 2014 19:22 marvellosity wrote:
So I made my case at 13:22 my time yesterday. Haru had been posting kinda regularly up until that point (7 times in the hour before my case), and then completely stopped posting when I made my case.

He then made 1 lazy +1 vote to Chrome's ritoky case 6 hours later, no reference to anything else.

me-no-likey.

I completely agree with this. I think that the people who look worst from the Cats flip are those who ignored the case on him entirely.

Scum wouldn't want to sheep a scum lynch that is already set because they think that it would look bad (ie look like a bus). Scum also wouldn't want to push some other target because the chances of them actually diverting the lynch at that point were near 0, and it would just draw attention to them after the flip.

Basically, they have no options for giving a read on Cats. If they say Cats is scum, then they have no excuse not to sheep onto Cats. If they say Cats is town, then they draw attention to themselves for defending the scum lynch (and they had really no good reasons to call him town). So they would totally ignore the case.
mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 13 2014 14:17 GMT
#2223
Players that we should be looking at closely for the next lynch

MZ
Sandroba
Ketomai
ObiWanShinobi
We are fools (Mattchew/Foolishness)
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
June 13 2014 14:17 GMT
#2224
On June 13 2014 23:08 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 19:22 marvellosity wrote:
So I made my case at 13:22 my time yesterday. Haru had been posting kinda regularly up until that point (7 times in the hour before my case), and then completely stopped posting when I made my case.

He then made 1 lazy +1 vote to Chrome's ritoky case 6 hours later, no reference to anything else.

me-no-likey.

I completely agree with this. I think that the people who look worst from the Cats flip are those who ignored the case on him entirely.

Scum wouldn't want to sheep a scum lynch that is already set because they think that it would look bad (ie look like a bus). Scum also wouldn't want to push some other target because the chances of them actually diverting the lynch at that point were near 0, and it would just draw attention to them after the flip.

Basically, they have no options for giving a read on Cats. If they say Cats is scum, then they have no excuse not to sheep onto Cats. If they say Cats is town, then they draw attention to themselves for defending the scum lynch (and they had really no good reasons to call him town). So they would totally ignore the case.

I could imagine that this won't be true for all of them but it really makes a lot of sense.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 13 2014 14:17 GMT
#2225
On June 13 2014 23:08 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 19:22 marvellosity wrote:
So I made my case at 13:22 my time yesterday. Haru had been posting kinda regularly up until that point (7 times in the hour before my case), and then completely stopped posting when I made my case.

He then made 1 lazy +1 vote to Chrome's ritoky case 6 hours later, no reference to anything else.

me-no-likey.

I completely agree with this. I think that the people who look worst from the Cats flip are those who ignored the case on him entirely.

Scum wouldn't want to sheep a scum lynch that is already set because they think that it would look bad (ie look like a bus). Scum also wouldn't want to push some other target because the chances of them actually diverting the lynch at that point were near 0, and it would just draw attention to them after the flip.

Basically, they have no options for giving a read on Cats. If they say Cats is scum, then they have no excuse not to sheep onto Cats. If they say Cats is town, then they draw attention to themselves for defending the scum lynch (and they had really no good reasons to call him town). So they would totally ignore the case.


so your new target is haru then?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 13 2014 14:22 GMT
#2226
agh TL just went down and I lost my post on Slam
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 13 2014 14:23 GMT
#2227
yup tl keeps crashing thought it was just me
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 13 2014 14:24 GMT
#2228
I don't know if I would say he's my "new target", I think the flip makes him look bad and there's nothing particularly townie in his filter.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 13 2014 14:29 GMT
#2229
what happened about the slam thing btw? cats thing still scummy as far as i'm concerned
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 13 2014 14:30 GMT
#2230
On June 13 2014 23:24 Chromatically wrote:
I don't know if I would say he's my "new target", I think the flip makes him look bad and there's nothing particularly townie in his filter.


You completely agree with marv on his post about haru, you say there's nothing towny in his filter and his vote makes him look bad.

Is there another word that's supposed to be coming out of your mouth that you just aren't saying?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 13 2014 14:30 GMT
#2231
Anyway, in short what I was going to say about Slam is that he also ignored the case on Cats even though he was the only one who knew Cats' meta. He pops in to let me know that Cats is from OMGUS, but doesn't give any analysis on what that says for Cats (why not?). He then later says:
On June 13 2014 05:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Skill

Yeh so I Dinnae switch because I wasn't sure. See he's good enough at town that I don't like him as a d1 lynch.

Feel free to vig me or something if you want.

Otherwise any way I can conftown myself?

which means that he DID actually have an opinion on the Cats lynch: too good to be lynched D1.

As scum, he wouldn't want to post that before the flip because he thinks he would look bad if he soft defends the scum lynch before he flips. As town, there's no reason not to give his opinion on the lynch.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 13 2014 14:32 GMT
#2232
On June 13 2014 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 23:24 Chromatically wrote:
I don't know if I would say he's my "new target", I think the flip makes him look bad and there's nothing particularly townie in his filter.


You completely agree with marv on his post about haru, you say there's nothing towny in his filter and his vote makes him look bad.

Is there another word that's supposed to be coming out of your mouth that you just aren't saying?

Uh what? I assume you want me to say that he's scum, I thought it was implied. I just didn't like the wording of "new target" like he's the one person I want to lynch.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 13 2014 14:32 GMT
#2233
wow what a lame 1000 post

this picture isn't even good either
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 13 2014 14:32 GMT
#2234
On June 13 2014 23:32 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 23:24 Chromatically wrote:
I don't know if I would say he's my "new target", I think the flip makes him look bad and there's nothing particularly townie in his filter.


You completely agree with marv on his post about haru, you say there's nothing towny in his filter and his vote makes him look bad.

Is there another word that's supposed to be coming out of your mouth that you just aren't saying?

Uh what? I assume you want me to say that he's scum, I thought it was implied. I just didn't like the wording of "new target" like he's the one person I want to lynch.


I think your votes looked like one of the worst imo
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 13 2014 14:34 GMT
#2235
On June 13 2014 23:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 23:32 Chromatically wrote:
On June 13 2014 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 23:24 Chromatically wrote:
I don't know if I would say he's my "new target", I think the flip makes him look bad and there's nothing particularly townie in his filter.


You completely agree with marv on his post about haru, you say there's nothing towny in his filter and his vote makes him look bad.

Is there another word that's supposed to be coming out of your mouth that you just aren't saying?

Uh what? I assume you want me to say that he's scum, I thought it was implied. I just didn't like the wording of "new target" like he's the one person I want to lynch.


I think your votes looked like one of the worst imo

Okay.
TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 13 2014 14:36 GMT
#2236
On June 13 2014 23:17 mattisfoolish wrote:
Players that we should be looking at closely for the next lynch

MZ
Sandroba
Ketomai
ObiWanShinobi

I'm glad that people not me have been pushing Obiwan. I've disliked him for a while and I don't get why some people took him off the block.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
June 13 2014 14:37 GMT
#2237
On June 13 2014 23:17 mattisfoolish wrote:
Players that we should be looking at closely for the next lynch

MZ
Sandroba
Ketomai
ObiWanShinobi

I assume this is still Foolishness posting?

TL is really annoying today.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2014 14:37 GMT
#2238
yes that's Fool.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 13 2014 14:38 GMT
#2239
On June 13 2014 23:34 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 23:32 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 23:32 Chromatically wrote:
On June 13 2014 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 23:24 Chromatically wrote:
I don't know if I would say he's my "new target", I think the flip makes him look bad and there's nothing particularly townie in his filter.


You completely agree with marv on his post about haru, you say there's nothing towny in his filter and his vote makes him look bad.

Is there another word that's supposed to be coming out of your mouth that you just aren't saying?

Uh what? I assume you want me to say that he's scum, I thought it was implied. I just didn't like the wording of "new target" like he's the one person I want to lynch.


I think your votes looked like one of the worst imo

Okay.


you spent the whole time talking about your ritoky case (which applied to many other people too but you still only chose ritoky) and then just briefly mentioned cats but you didn't even call him scummy

On June 13 2014 03:12 Chromatically wrote:
The case on Cats is good but it basically relies on him being experienced/good. He could be actually new or just really bad. ritoky has done things that are scum-motivated, not just bad. I'll consolidate my case because I think I wasn't very clear yesterday.


tbh you clearly didn't even read anything i posted about kush or read his filters properly because you said it looked like the town game when it was worlds apart from it and then when cats was already being voted off and was definitely going to die you joined the wagon even though it was pretty much solid anyway, what was your motivation for that???
TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 13 2014 14:40 GMT
#2240
Can we live in reality where Slam's alignment is a complete coin flip? He's been significantly less helpful this game than in a few previous. That's the major thing to note that could be said is even minorly alignment indicative. But any fuckhead who thinks they can read Slam in this game is just off their rocker. He's a fine vigi shot. He's maybe an ok lynch, but let's not bother spending time to actually read and analyze him and instead read and analyze people who are actually readable and discernable. At worst we can alway default to a Slam lynch as is the general omgus policy: "When in doubt, lynch Slam."
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