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Hobbitus
Profile Joined June 2014
222 Posts
June 23 2014 03:05 GMT
#681
On June 23 2014 11:59 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
you guys are pushing on me for now two reasons, a small point of inconsitancy that happens to everyone and the fact that im not giving my reads on one person.


If there is a cop in this set-up,

id check in no particualr order
cats
tolkien
jabberwock

and if you are still alive and glooming bear is alive, check him to


Oddly enough, I agree with this.
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
June 23 2014 03:05 GMT
#682
On June 23 2014 11:47 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
the one where he tells people how to play blue roles, i think its pretty scummy, and that he is just fishing for roles.

Please quote the post and point to me where it looks like he's fishing for roles.

Also:
On June 23 2014 11:27 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:12 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Just from rereading the thread over my town reads would be

Scott: He votes on himself because he feels that the game isn't for him. Then thanks me for telling him to keep fighting if he was town. If Scott was mafia, I doubt he would be feeling alone, as he would have a mafia qt to post in and ask for advice. He hasn't contributed a whole lot but i really think he is town.

King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

The_Templar:
Says scumhunting isn't essential day 1, doesn't like scott, and is willing to lynch him because he has no scum read.

Like the reason i don't like CATS, Tolkien, is because they seem very ready to lynch people, and throwing scum on people to sway town into voting on them. (this isn't OMGUS) but teemu on the other hand votes on people to get reactions and reads. I think there is a very clear distinction. I usually don't pay too much attention, but in this case imo the distinction is pretty clear.

Teemu: I really like teemu, he's pushing for information, and getting reads. He thinks pudding is scum, which i think pudding could be town.

Nydus: Hasn't posted a ton recently but i think he's pretty town. The way i distinguish between his town and mafia play is how objective he is to the game. When he's town his reads are more selfish and when he's mafia his reads are really objective.

Tolkien: i honestly don't like, once again not for OMGUS, but he wants to lynch lurkers, which i don't agree with. If they keep on lurking they could get modkilled. He also is telling blue roles how to play the game. There is more than one way to play mafia, and i think he's just fishing for roles to kill in the night honestly. I also don't like the fact that when people talked about my inconsistency on cat's and tolkien. No one really mentioned the fact that there could be a relationship between tolkien and I. IMO if mafia are going to go for an inconsitancy like that it happens for a reason.

HARUH: Leaning pretty town. I like his reads early on in the game.

Epishade: I don't know atm. I get this odd feeling like he's playing slightly different than he was the last time i played with him when he was town. Don't know what this really means, but could potentially expand on this on d2 if im alive.

in the mafia fence pile
jabber
glowingbear (first post striked me as really odd)
pudding (said he could be town, but i think teemu is pretty town and teemu is pretty good at finding mafia)

Why are me and Tolkien on your townpile if you don't like either of us?

Where was Tolkien telling blue roles how to play the game and how is that scummy?

What is this possible relationship between you and Tolkien?

Can you elaborate on why the people in your mafia pile are scummy?

On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 23 2014 03:06 GMT
#683
On June 23 2014 12:04 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:59 Hobbitus wrote:
Templar, this
King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

is enough for you to change your mind about MM?

Despite Tolkien's beautiful argument?

MysteryMeat's contribution is him trying to pose as normal town when he hasn't been posting much. My (limited) experience with lurker scum is that they hide until the second half of Day 1 before posting a "reads" list, and giving a vote in the hopes it'll let them off the hook for any suspicion, and voting for a possible bandwagon based on the general feelings in the thread. Let's be real here, NO ONE in this thread thought I was scum until GlowingBear (I believe Haru had already removed his vote at the time), so he figured it'd be best to continue the trend. Cats a safe vote. A bandwagon on meatpudding, but Cats is under suspicion so his vote won't be heavily scruitinized D2 if meatpudding turns up green.

It's just impossible for him not to even MENTION that I pushed for a lynch on a player for being deadweight and being FINE with a mislynch if that happens, if that's why he's so bent on voting Cats. It's just ridiculously impossible, like holy shit.

I never changed my general opinion of MysteryMeat. However, he's sort of looking frantic at this point, so I'm considering changing my vote back. I don't like changing my vote back and forth so I'm waiting until a conclusion is being reached.
Show nested quote +

On June 23 2014 12:00 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:47 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:27 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:12 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Just from rereading the thread over my town reads would be

Scott: He votes on himself because he feels that the game isn't for him. Then thanks me for telling him to keep fighting if he was town. If Scott was mafia, I doubt he would be feeling alone, as he would have a mafia qt to post in and ask for advice. He hasn't contributed a whole lot but i really think he is town.

King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

The_Templar:
Says scumhunting isn't essential day 1, doesn't like scott, and is willing to lynch him because he has no scum read.

Like the reason i don't like CATS, Tolkien, is because they seem very ready to lynch people, and throwing scum on people to sway town into voting on them. (this isn't OMGUS) but teemu on the other hand votes on people to get reactions and reads. I think there is a very clear distinction. I usually don't pay too much attention, but in this case imo the distinction is pretty clear.

Teemu: I really like teemu, he's pushing for information, and getting reads. He thinks pudding is scum, which i think pudding could be town.

Nydus: Hasn't posted a ton recently but i think he's pretty town. The way i distinguish between his town and mafia play is how objective he is to the game. When he's town his reads are more selfish and when he's mafia his reads are really objective.

Tolkien: i honestly don't like, once again not for OMGUS, but he wants to lynch lurkers, which i don't agree with. If they keep on lurking they could get modkilled. He also is telling blue roles how to play the game. There is more than one way to play mafia, and i think he's just fishing for roles to kill in the night honestly. I also don't like the fact that when people talked about my inconsistency on cat's and tolkien. No one really mentioned the fact that there could be a relationship between tolkien and I. IMO if mafia are going to go for an inconsitancy like that it happens for a reason.

HARUH: Leaning pretty town. I like his reads early on in the game.

Epishade: I don't know atm. I get this odd feeling like he's playing slightly different than he was the last time i played with him when he was town. Don't know what this really means, but could potentially expand on this on d2 if im alive.

in the mafia fence pile
jabber
glowingbear (first post striked me as really odd)
pudding (said he could be town, but i think teemu is pretty town and teemu is pretty good at finding mafia)

Why are me and Tolkien on your townpile if you don't like either of us?

Where was Tolkien telling blue roles how to play the game and how is that scummy?

What is this possible relationship between you and Tolkien?

Can you elaborate on why the people in your mafia pile are scummy?

I'm going to help meat a bit and answer that relationship question. This post was the initial lynch post, where tolkien did something similar to what I did later (although I've retracted mine in favor of the still very scummy meatpudding)

I'm sorry but i really can't see what you're getting at. How does that post help explain a relationship between MM and Tolkien?

It got the town riled up against MM for the most part. It also caused my vote to change to MM to pressure him, which made him come out and start defending himself. Now MM is defending himself from Tolkien among other people.

This thread has gotten really, really weird.

To clarify: I am mentally voting for MM at this point, and if nothing has changed in the next 40 or so minutes, I'll unvote meatpudding. But I don't want to spam the vote list.
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MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
June 23 2014 03:06 GMT
#684
Templar i'm sooo town it hurts. Like im still here defending myself when pudding hasn't posted at all...
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 23 2014 03:07 GMT
#685
On June 23 2014 12:06 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 12:04 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:59 Hobbitus wrote:
Templar, this
King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

is enough for you to change your mind about MM?

Despite Tolkien's beautiful argument?

MysteryMeat's contribution is him trying to pose as normal town when he hasn't been posting much. My (limited) experience with lurker scum is that they hide until the second half of Day 1 before posting a "reads" list, and giving a vote in the hopes it'll let them off the hook for any suspicion, and voting for a possible bandwagon based on the general feelings in the thread. Let's be real here, NO ONE in this thread thought I was scum until GlowingBear (I believe Haru had already removed his vote at the time), so he figured it'd be best to continue the trend. Cats a safe vote. A bandwagon on meatpudding, but Cats is under suspicion so his vote won't be heavily scruitinized D2 if meatpudding turns up green.

It's just impossible for him not to even MENTION that I pushed for a lynch on a player for being deadweight and being FINE with a mislynch if that happens, if that's why he's so bent on voting Cats. It's just ridiculously impossible, like holy shit.

I never changed my general opinion of MysteryMeat. However, he's sort of looking frantic at this point, so I'm considering changing my vote back. I don't like changing my vote back and forth so I'm waiting until a conclusion is being reached.

On June 23 2014 12:00 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:47 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:27 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:12 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Just from rereading the thread over my town reads would be

Scott: He votes on himself because he feels that the game isn't for him. Then thanks me for telling him to keep fighting if he was town. If Scott was mafia, I doubt he would be feeling alone, as he would have a mafia qt to post in and ask for advice. He hasn't contributed a whole lot but i really think he is town.

King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

The_Templar:
Says scumhunting isn't essential day 1, doesn't like scott, and is willing to lynch him because he has no scum read.

Like the reason i don't like CATS, Tolkien, is because they seem very ready to lynch people, and throwing scum on people to sway town into voting on them. (this isn't OMGUS) but teemu on the other hand votes on people to get reactions and reads. I think there is a very clear distinction. I usually don't pay too much attention, but in this case imo the distinction is pretty clear.

Teemu: I really like teemu, he's pushing for information, and getting reads. He thinks pudding is scum, which i think pudding could be town.

Nydus: Hasn't posted a ton recently but i think he's pretty town. The way i distinguish between his town and mafia play is how objective he is to the game. When he's town his reads are more selfish and when he's mafia his reads are really objective.

Tolkien: i honestly don't like, once again not for OMGUS, but he wants to lynch lurkers, which i don't agree with. If they keep on lurking they could get modkilled. He also is telling blue roles how to play the game. There is more than one way to play mafia, and i think he's just fishing for roles to kill in the night honestly. I also don't like the fact that when people talked about my inconsistency on cat's and tolkien. No one really mentioned the fact that there could be a relationship between tolkien and I. IMO if mafia are going to go for an inconsitancy like that it happens for a reason.

HARUH: Leaning pretty town. I like his reads early on in the game.

Epishade: I don't know atm. I get this odd feeling like he's playing slightly different than he was the last time i played with him when he was town. Don't know what this really means, but could potentially expand on this on d2 if im alive.

in the mafia fence pile
jabber
glowingbear (first post striked me as really odd)
pudding (said he could be town, but i think teemu is pretty town and teemu is pretty good at finding mafia)

Why are me and Tolkien on your townpile if you don't like either of us?

Where was Tolkien telling blue roles how to play the game and how is that scummy?

What is this possible relationship between you and Tolkien?

Can you elaborate on why the people in your mafia pile are scummy?

I'm going to help meat a bit and answer that relationship question. This post was the initial lynch post, where tolkien did something similar to what I did later (although I've retracted mine in favor of the still very scummy meatpudding)

I'm sorry but i really can't see what you're getting at. How does that post help explain a relationship between MM and Tolkien?

It got the town riled up against MM for the most part. It also caused my vote to change to MM to pressure him, which made him come out and start defending himself. Now MM is defending himself from Tolkien among other people.

This thread has gotten really, really weird.

To clarify: I am mentally voting for MM at this point, and if nothing has changed in the next 40 or so minutes, I'll unvote meatpudding. But I don't want to spam the vote list.

And I am voting for MM because of his very frantic defense in which he doesn't want to give too much away for some reason.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
June 23 2014 03:07 GMT
#686
if you tell a blue role how to play and in a newbie game they start playing like that, then you are essentially fishing for roles. If they start listening to you, and you notice then you can shoot them in the night.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 23 2014 03:08 GMT
#687
On June 23 2014 12:07 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
if you tell a blue role how to play and in a newbie game they start playing like that, then you are essentially fishing for roles. If they start listening to you, and you notice then you can shoot them in the night.

He was only emphasizing the importance of not lurking though.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Hobbitus
Profile Joined June 2014
222 Posts
June 23 2014 03:09 GMT
#688
On June 23 2014 12:04 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:59 Hobbitus wrote:
Templar, this
King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

is enough for you to change your mind about MM?

Despite Tolkien's beautiful argument?

MysteryMeat's contribution is him trying to pose as normal town when he hasn't been posting much. My (limited) experience with lurker scum is that they hide until the second half of Day 1 before posting a "reads" list, and giving a vote in the hopes it'll let them off the hook for any suspicion, and voting for a possible bandwagon based on the general feelings in the thread. Let's be real here, NO ONE in this thread thought I was scum until GlowingBear (I believe Haru had already removed his vote at the time), so he figured it'd be best to continue the trend. Cats a safe vote. A bandwagon on meatpudding, but Cats is under suspicion so his vote won't be heavily scruitinized D2 if meatpudding turns up green.

It's just impossible for him not to even MENTION that I pushed for a lynch on a player for being deadweight and being FINE with a mislynch if that happens, if that's why he's so bent on voting Cats. It's just ridiculously impossible, like holy shit.

I never changed my general opinion of MysteryMeat. However, he's sort of looking frantic at this point, so I'm considering changing my vote back. I don't like changing my vote back and forth so I'm waiting until a conclusion is being reached.
Show nested quote +

On June 23 2014 12:00 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:47 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:27 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:12 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Just from rereading the thread over my town reads would be

Scott: He votes on himself because he feels that the game isn't for him. Then thanks me for telling him to keep fighting if he was town. If Scott was mafia, I doubt he would be feeling alone, as he would have a mafia qt to post in and ask for advice. He hasn't contributed a whole lot but i really think he is town.

King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

The_Templar:
Says scumhunting isn't essential day 1, doesn't like scott, and is willing to lynch him because he has no scum read.

Like the reason i don't like CATS, Tolkien, is because they seem very ready to lynch people, and throwing scum on people to sway town into voting on them. (this isn't OMGUS) but teemu on the other hand votes on people to get reactions and reads. I think there is a very clear distinction. I usually don't pay too much attention, but in this case imo the distinction is pretty clear.

Teemu: I really like teemu, he's pushing for information, and getting reads. He thinks pudding is scum, which i think pudding could be town.

Nydus: Hasn't posted a ton recently but i think he's pretty town. The way i distinguish between his town and mafia play is how objective he is to the game. When he's town his reads are more selfish and when he's mafia his reads are really objective.

Tolkien: i honestly don't like, once again not for OMGUS, but he wants to lynch lurkers, which i don't agree with. If they keep on lurking they could get modkilled. He also is telling blue roles how to play the game. There is more than one way to play mafia, and i think he's just fishing for roles to kill in the night honestly. I also don't like the fact that when people talked about my inconsistency on cat's and tolkien. No one really mentioned the fact that there could be a relationship between tolkien and I. IMO if mafia are going to go for an inconsitancy like that it happens for a reason.

HARUH: Leaning pretty town. I like his reads early on in the game.

Epishade: I don't know atm. I get this odd feeling like he's playing slightly different than he was the last time i played with him when he was town. Don't know what this really means, but could potentially expand on this on d2 if im alive.

in the mafia fence pile
jabber
glowingbear (first post striked me as really odd)
pudding (said he could be town, but i think teemu is pretty town and teemu is pretty good at finding mafia)

Why are me and Tolkien on your townpile if you don't like either of us?

Where was Tolkien telling blue roles how to play the game and how is that scummy?

What is this possible relationship between you and Tolkien?

Can you elaborate on why the people in your mafia pile are scummy?

I'm going to help meat a bit and answer that relationship question. This post was the initial lynch post, where tolkien did something similar to what I did later (although I've retracted mine in favor of the still very scummy meatpudding)

I'm sorry but i really can't see what you're getting at. How does that post help explain a relationship between MM and Tolkien?

It got the town riled up against MM for the most part. It also caused my vote to change to MM to pressure him, which made him come out and start defending himself. Now MM is defending himself from Tolkien among other people.

This thread has gotten really, really weird.


I agree with you templar, both meats are suspicious. However, I think MM's lynch would help us more, regardless of which way he flips. He still seems a little bit more scummy than pudding to me. Hmm.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
June 23 2014 03:09 GMT
#689
Also kingofCats are you fucking retarded? Like, i posted a scenario for a possible relationship between tolkien and i that no one pointed out.

I also gave told you why i found people in my scum people i found scummy...

If there is a vigi, for the love of god, shoot Cats.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Hobbitus
Profile Joined June 2014
222 Posts
June 23 2014 03:10 GMT
#690
On June 23 2014 12:06 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Templar i'm sooo town it hurts. Like im still here defending myself when pudding hasn't posted at all...


I really hope pudding does post though :/ He said he was compiling reads a while ago? Tbh I'd rather hear a defense at this point.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
June 23 2014 03:10 GMT
#691
Like if your going to lynch me for information then go ahead do it. but don't lynch me cause im scum, i can besmirch my own name well enough on my own.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 23 2014 03:11 GMT
#692
On June 23 2014 12:09 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Also kingofCats are you fucking retarded? Like, i posted a scenario for a possible relationship between tolkien and i that no one pointed out.

I also gave told you why i found people in my scum people i found scummy...

If there is a vigi, for the love of god, shoot Cats.

I can't find the mentioned scenario, what is it?
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TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
June 23 2014 03:12 GMT
#693
On June 23 2014 12:04 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:59 Hobbitus wrote:
Templar, this
King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

is enough for you to change your mind about MM?

Despite Tolkien's beautiful argument?

MysteryMeat's contribution is him trying to pose as normal town when he hasn't been posting much. My (limited) experience with lurker scum is that they hide until the second half of Day 1 before posting a "reads" list, and giving a vote in the hopes it'll let them off the hook for any suspicion, and voting for a possible bandwagon based on the general feelings in the thread. Let's be real here, NO ONE in this thread thought I was scum until GlowingBear (I believe Haru had already removed his vote at the time), so he figured it'd be best to continue the trend. Cats a safe vote. A bandwagon on meatpudding, but Cats is under suspicion so his vote won't be heavily scruitinized D2 if meatpudding turns up green.

It's just impossible for him not to even MENTION that I pushed for a lynch on a player for being deadweight and being FINE with a mislynch if that happens, if that's why he's so bent on voting Cats. It's just ridiculously impossible, like holy shit.

I never changed my general opinion of MysteryMeat. However, he's sort of looking frantic at this point, so I'm considering changing my vote back. I don't like changing my vote back and forth so I'm waiting until a conclusion is being reached.
Show nested quote +

On June 23 2014 12:00 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:47 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:27 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:12 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Just from rereading the thread over my town reads would be

Scott: He votes on himself because he feels that the game isn't for him. Then thanks me for telling him to keep fighting if he was town. If Scott was mafia, I doubt he would be feeling alone, as he would have a mafia qt to post in and ask for advice. He hasn't contributed a whole lot but i really think he is town.

King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

The_Templar:
Says scumhunting isn't essential day 1, doesn't like scott, and is willing to lynch him because he has no scum read.

Like the reason i don't like CATS, Tolkien, is because they seem very ready to lynch people, and throwing scum on people to sway town into voting on them. (this isn't OMGUS) but teemu on the other hand votes on people to get reactions and reads. I think there is a very clear distinction. I usually don't pay too much attention, but in this case imo the distinction is pretty clear.

Teemu: I really like teemu, he's pushing for information, and getting reads. He thinks pudding is scum, which i think pudding could be town.

Nydus: Hasn't posted a ton recently but i think he's pretty town. The way i distinguish between his town and mafia play is how objective he is to the game. When he's town his reads are more selfish and when he's mafia his reads are really objective.

Tolkien: i honestly don't like, once again not for OMGUS, but he wants to lynch lurkers, which i don't agree with. If they keep on lurking they could get modkilled. He also is telling blue roles how to play the game. There is more than one way to play mafia, and i think he's just fishing for roles to kill in the night honestly. I also don't like the fact that when people talked about my inconsistency on cat's and tolkien. No one really mentioned the fact that there could be a relationship between tolkien and I. IMO if mafia are going to go for an inconsitancy like that it happens for a reason.

HARUH: Leaning pretty town. I like his reads early on in the game.

Epishade: I don't know atm. I get this odd feeling like he's playing slightly different than he was the last time i played with him when he was town. Don't know what this really means, but could potentially expand on this on d2 if im alive.

in the mafia fence pile
jabber
glowingbear (first post striked me as really odd)
pudding (said he could be town, but i think teemu is pretty town and teemu is pretty good at finding mafia)

Why are me and Tolkien on your townpile if you don't like either of us?

Where was Tolkien telling blue roles how to play the game and how is that scummy?

What is this possible relationship between you and Tolkien?

Can you elaborate on why the people in your mafia pile are scummy?

I'm going to help meat a bit and answer that relationship question. This post was the initial lynch post, where tolkien did something similar to what I did later (although I've retracted mine in favor of the still very scummy meatpudding)

I'm sorry but i really can't see what you're getting at. How does that post help explain a relationship between MM and Tolkien?

It got the town riled up against MM for the most part. It also caused my vote to change to MM to pressure him, which made him come out and start defending himself. Now MM is defending himself from Tolkien among other people.

This thread has gotten really, really weird.

But as i read it he said that he didn't comment on Tolkien proposing a lurker lynch because they may have a "relationship" implying masons...After he claimed VT. And now he's saying that he never read the post at all. I didn't misread it did i?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
June 23 2014 03:12 GMT
#694
On June 23 2014 11:59 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
you guys are pushing on me for now two reasons, a small point of inconsitancy that happens to everyone and the fact that im not giving my reads on one person.


If there is a cop in this set-up,

id check in no particualr order
cats
tolkien
jabberwock
and if you are still alive and glooming bear is alive, check him to

Personally, I'm voting for a bit of a different reason, which is that I don't agree with your thought that posting past games/filters is scummy. I realize you did something similar as town in our last game (which I also posted about), and that made me think you were scummy then, too. It just so happened that you were town that game, but were using logic that I still disagreed with.

I didn't like your reads on just about everyone else as well in your first post too - in particular townreading Teemursu and Nydus. Actually, I disagreed with just about every read you had listed in your first post. I'm sorry to tell you I'm sticking with my vote on you. If you turned out to be mafia, I wouldn't be able to forgive myself after missing all those red flags that stood out for me. Sorry.
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Hobbitus
Profile Joined June 2014
222 Posts
June 23 2014 03:12 GMT
#695
On June 23 2014 12:09 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Also kingofCats are you fucking retarded? Like, i posted a scenario for a possible relationship between tolkien and i that no one pointed out.

I also gave told you why i found people in my scum people i found scummy...

If there is a vigi, for the love of god, shoot Cats.


I think I missed that post, can you show me?
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
June 23 2014 03:12 GMT
#696
the potential scenario, is that i called out cats for lynching regardless of alignment while tolkien was more of a lynch for lurking. Cats is pissed off that i mentioned him but not tolkien. Either this was careless, which he doesn't think so, or there could be a potential link between tolkien and i.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 23 2014 03:13 GMT
#697
On June 23 2014 12:12 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 12:04 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:59 Hobbitus wrote:
Templar, this
King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

is enough for you to change your mind about MM?

Despite Tolkien's beautiful argument?

MysteryMeat's contribution is him trying to pose as normal town when he hasn't been posting much. My (limited) experience with lurker scum is that they hide until the second half of Day 1 before posting a "reads" list, and giving a vote in the hopes it'll let them off the hook for any suspicion, and voting for a possible bandwagon based on the general feelings in the thread. Let's be real here, NO ONE in this thread thought I was scum until GlowingBear (I believe Haru had already removed his vote at the time), so he figured it'd be best to continue the trend. Cats a safe vote. A bandwagon on meatpudding, but Cats is under suspicion so his vote won't be heavily scruitinized D2 if meatpudding turns up green.

It's just impossible for him not to even MENTION that I pushed for a lynch on a player for being deadweight and being FINE with a mislynch if that happens, if that's why he's so bent on voting Cats. It's just ridiculously impossible, like holy shit.

I never changed my general opinion of MysteryMeat. However, he's sort of looking frantic at this point, so I'm considering changing my vote back. I don't like changing my vote back and forth so I'm waiting until a conclusion is being reached.

On June 23 2014 12:00 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:47 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:27 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:12 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Just from rereading the thread over my town reads would be

Scott: He votes on himself because he feels that the game isn't for him. Then thanks me for telling him to keep fighting if he was town. If Scott was mafia, I doubt he would be feeling alone, as he would have a mafia qt to post in and ask for advice. He hasn't contributed a whole lot but i really think he is town.

King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

The_Templar:
Says scumhunting isn't essential day 1, doesn't like scott, and is willing to lynch him because he has no scum read.

Like the reason i don't like CATS, Tolkien, is because they seem very ready to lynch people, and throwing scum on people to sway town into voting on them. (this isn't OMGUS) but teemu on the other hand votes on people to get reactions and reads. I think there is a very clear distinction. I usually don't pay too much attention, but in this case imo the distinction is pretty clear.

Teemu: I really like teemu, he's pushing for information, and getting reads. He thinks pudding is scum, which i think pudding could be town.

Nydus: Hasn't posted a ton recently but i think he's pretty town. The way i distinguish between his town and mafia play is how objective he is to the game. When he's town his reads are more selfish and when he's mafia his reads are really objective.

Tolkien: i honestly don't like, once again not for OMGUS, but he wants to lynch lurkers, which i don't agree with. If they keep on lurking they could get modkilled. He also is telling blue roles how to play the game. There is more than one way to play mafia, and i think he's just fishing for roles to kill in the night honestly. I also don't like the fact that when people talked about my inconsistency on cat's and tolkien. No one really mentioned the fact that there could be a relationship between tolkien and I. IMO if mafia are going to go for an inconsitancy like that it happens for a reason.

HARUH: Leaning pretty town. I like his reads early on in the game.

Epishade: I don't know atm. I get this odd feeling like he's playing slightly different than he was the last time i played with him when he was town. Don't know what this really means, but could potentially expand on this on d2 if im alive.

in the mafia fence pile
jabber
glowingbear (first post striked me as really odd)
pudding (said he could be town, but i think teemu is pretty town and teemu is pretty good at finding mafia)

Why are me and Tolkien on your townpile if you don't like either of us?

Where was Tolkien telling blue roles how to play the game and how is that scummy?

What is this possible relationship between you and Tolkien?

Can you elaborate on why the people in your mafia pile are scummy?

I'm going to help meat a bit and answer that relationship question. This post was the initial lynch post, where tolkien did something similar to what I did later (although I've retracted mine in favor of the still very scummy meatpudding)

I'm sorry but i really can't see what you're getting at. How does that post help explain a relationship between MM and Tolkien?

It got the town riled up against MM for the most part. It also caused my vote to change to MM to pressure him, which made him come out and start defending himself. Now MM is defending himself from Tolkien among other people.

This thread has gotten really, really weird.

But as i read it he said that he didn't comment on Tolkien proposing a lurker lynch because they may have a "relationship" implying masons...After he claimed VT. And now he's saying that he never read the post at all. I didn't misread it did i?

They're not masons. Tolkien instigated most of the train on MM
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MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
June 23 2014 03:13 GMT
#698
i used logic that you disagreed with epishade, but found out all of the mafia... and the roleblocker
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 23 2014 03:14 GMT
#699
I'm alive, I'm just slightly drunk

Maybe not slightly

You may ask anything you want. I'll do my best to answer it properly.
I'll keep my vote as I don't have enough time to reevaluate my decision and I'm confident on my read, although some may find my reads weak.
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
June 23 2014 03:15 GMT
#700
Yes, I understand that it's certainly possible for me and GlowingBear to be mafia together: it would make some sense if you flipped green. It would suggest that me, GlowingBear, and meatpudding are mafia if you ascribe to that theory though (since there would have to be a clear motive to trying to push the bandwagon off meat...which doesn't match what I've been saying previously so... :psyduck: ).

He'll probably be under my scrutiny D2.


I still have no idea what kind of relationship I would have with you. It would be monumentally stupid of me to bus you as mafia (if you were mafia), since no one actually believed Cats until I supported his push. If you're town and I'm mafia, it would mean I would have to be pushing steam off meatpudding or Cats (the latter wasn't going to be lynched, let's be real)...despite me talking about lynching meatpudding as a preference, both before the Scott pressure votes and I withdrew it. If you're green, that makes no sense.

:psyduck:

I still don't see it.


On June 23 2014 12:07 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
if you tell a blue role how to play and in a newbie game they start playing like that, then you are essentially fishing for roles. If they start listening to you, and you notice then you can shoot them in the night.

Possible yes, but I was also saying lurking IN GENERAL is bad. If you're vanilla town its bad because you don't do anything and will probably get policy-lynched for it in a forum mafia game eventually, it's bad for blues because you'll get either lynched or shot because mafia will notice, and it's bad for mafia because people will notice. Town thrives on posts, so POST. That's the crux of what I was saying and aiming to promote.
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