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I'm caught up but I can't think of anything to contribute.
On May 30 2014 21:12 Palmar wrote:
I agree with the read on ninja. probably scum.
I'm really conflicted about today's lynch though. Odin's drunken frustration looked sort of townie, but MZ's random shit looks townie too.
Idk.
If you're still here, what about ritoky?
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Ritoky said recently in regards to "why MZ and I both are against Odin" that they both "got huge town reads on each other early." That their reads for their cell were more or less decided before Odin even entered the game.
Early in the game, the MZ/Ritoky friendship was not one I personally expected to last because it seemed like they were only doing it as a joke with the whole "murica" thing. But it has lasted and that is what has me wondering.
When Odin finally did show up it seemed like most of their combined efforts went toward defending the early friendship and trying to bring Odin down.
So I think mafia in their group is either rit/MZ. I mentioned in an earlier post that I like the idea of the mayor's group being first because most people will get to go into the first lynch day with a town read, the mayor, and that is a small advantage. I have mentioned before that I want to believe that a mafia member was not elected mayor over me, especially not because of a bunch of freedom fluff. So out of rit/MZ I have to go with MZ right now. I hesitate because everyone is doing exactly the same thing except for one person that I am very suspicious of (read: Palmar).
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speak of the devil and he shall appear
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Odin that red text thing you do is a little hard to understand.
Here's some more things I had in my notes since you asked:
- MZ is most critical of his critics
- In MZ's response to this:
On May 29 2014 12:27 ritoky wrote:@MZ, If the mod suddenly banned freedom and murrica from this thread, then what would you base your read on myself and Odin on?
Is this:
On May 29 2014 16:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was initially all over you for the lulz mostly, I thought your intro post was good and not something scum would do but I really had no idea how things would pan out. Since then my initial judgement has been reaffirmed, I'd be townreading you right now even without the America stuff.
On May 30 2014 03:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
And a word about the whole ritoky nonsense. I get hype for cheesy Murica shit. I thought that was well known enough that people would be laughing along with me but apparently I've been inactive long enough for people to forget. I could go extreme meta and quote my own TL post history to prove this but imo the whole conversation is kind of silly. If ritoky hadn't actually acted town after his first couple of posts I would have backed off him (I even said so) but since he continued strong I just rolled with the freedom thing. Basically everyone has a green read on ritoky for the same reasons I do. Just because I'm down with freedom and eagles doesn't mean I can't read what else he posts. Everyone harping on that honestly sounds really dumb right now.
So he admits that he likes America and eagles and all that. He says he was initially all over ritoky for the "lulz [sic]." As for why he continued buddying ritoky, he only says that it's because his initial judgement had been reaffirmed. But his initial judgement was because of "lulz [sic]." He doesn't say reaffirmed by what specifically, just that it was reaffirmed somehow.
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Damn it no one is going to read that thing I just posted because it's at the bottom of the page.
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On May 30 2014 23:01 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2014 22:56 batsnacks wrote:
Damn it no one is going to read that thing I just posted because it's at the bottom of the page. Don't think it really applies. He meant that he town read ritoky for being ballsy and then his town read was reaffirmed when he did towny looking scum hunting.
Are you sure? Because that's not what he wrote.
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I want to talk about Odin's response to MZ's last big post (I fixed a missing red tag):
On May 30 2014 17:25 OdinOfPergo wrote:Ok actually, I've been trying to wrap my head around your meaning in this post for a while now. And I just can't do it. SO here, these are my thoughts about it and hopefully people can elaborate. And yes, just to bring up hairs, I'm going to use red font! HA! (Really it was because tl doesn't have yellow t.t) Show nested quote +On May 30 2014 17:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 30 2014 16:51 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Like yes, I don't post 65536 freaking post a cycle. It will never happen. But you are saying I have produced nothing this game.
And you are out-right lying about it because in my limited number of post this game I have produced more content than like 80% of the players here.
And you want to lynch me for it.
Why? I want to lynch you because you're scum and you've been waffling between me and rit, How exactly? Just because I was unsure of who was scum makes me "waffling"?" My second question is how the hell did you come to the conclusion 100% Odin is scum before I ever even replaced in? Like you already know my alignment. You don't do analyses on me for it. You're post imply you know it. And have known it since the start of the game. you thought it was gonna be rit for a long time but never committed so now that I'm under the gun you can switch to me. I didn't "think for a long time" I thought for the two hours I played catch up, 20 minutes in the shower, and then POSTED I THOUGHT MABY Rit's motivations should be questioned. Was I wrong for doing that? No, I still think Rit's motivations seem weird. Maby less scummy because of my progressing read on you. But still odd none-the-less. I really don't care about what else you've done, I'm looking at how you've played your cell and all you've done is angle yourself to stay alive by making sure you'll be on the right side of the lynch. Oh of course!, I mean why should you care about what I've done?!~ You obviously already know my alignment so why try to even BOTHER FIGURING IT OUT? FUCK.. Your first 5 or 6 posts are all about the bad things that ritoky did but as I pointed out, you never called him scum. My first few post were me bringing what I thought, how I came to those conclusions, and trying to elaborate on said CONCLUSIONS, with people! Like I don't even understand you here. Of course I'm going to try to stay alive. When I replaced into this game and caught up, many ppl were posting suspicions of me. As town it would be against my wincon to NOT TRY TO SURVIVE. Aside from Palmar I'm the only person you've actually called scum and aggressively gone after, you did this after it became apparent that ritoky was not catching on as a lynch. [red.. you know what? I'm not even mad. My reads develop. You know that's how it works. I read stuff, make decisions, and then repeat. That's textbook opportunistic scum play in an attempt to stay alive. You kept your options open until you saw which way the thread was going. Don't give me BS about the other reads you've given, I don't care because those don't matter right now. All that matters is you, me, and ritoky, and it's clear your focus isn't finding scum but instead staying alive, and that's a scum play right there. Repeat statement. Of course you don't give a damn about what I've posted. Why try to figure out if I'm actually scum? You don't need a reason to call me scum or anything. No never. You don't even have to read my post! It's not like you didn't receive a msg from the fucking host telling you my alignment or anything. GOD WHY WOULD ANYONE EVER TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOMEONE ELSES ALIGNMENT?! [/red]
Odin's responses are in red.
Anyway right after this post Palmar comes into the thread with this:
On May 30 2014 18:25 Palmar wrote:
Odin I'm not mafia. If you dn't agree that I'm not mafia I'm going to keep voting you because you're being intentionally and willingly thick. You know I do whatever I want to do as any alignment, so me playing anti-town should be a null-tell to you.
I don't even care if you believe it. Just admit that your scumread on me is dumb, even if you're lying.
I think Palmar is trying draw attention away from Odin's credible responses by trying to get Odin to blow up and "act emo" again. He is trying to get the thread to focus on Odin's bad posts by provoking Odin to make more of them. In a later post Palmar says specifically:
On May 30 2014 23:48 Palmar wrote:
I like your playstyle (I'll teach you to format your posts some day, that's the one real issue I have) but for in-game purposes making you emo would be great.
So why does Palmar go on to vote MZ after all that? I'm not really sure. Maybe he realized trying to get Odin lynched is a lost cause at this point.
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On May 31 2014 01:35 slOosh wrote:
People who haven't voted: Vote.
People who have, let's keep discussion on Cell A.
Who should I vote?
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On May 31 2014 01:38 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 01:37 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:35 slOosh wrote:
People who haven't voted: Vote.
People who have, let's keep discussion on Cell A. Who should I vote? Who you think is scum.
Who should I think is scum?
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On May 31 2014 01:40 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:38 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:37 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:35 slOosh wrote:
People who haven't voted: Vote.
People who have, let's keep discussion on Cell A. Who should I vote? Who you think is scum. Who should I think is scum? In case you missed it Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 15:57 slOosh wrote:I'm reasonably sure that Meapak_Ziphh is the scum in Cell A. I believe his strategy is to buddy up hard to one member to get support for lynching the other. Namely, buddying up to ritoky to lynch thrawn, now replaced with Odin. Take one of his starting posts: On May 28 2014 07:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Where are my cell mates?
I want to analyze the shit out of them This is quickly followed with a slew of On May 28 2014 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Holy mother of god I know who I'm voting for mayor
I also know who the scum is in my cell.
On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now On May 28 2014 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm posting this just so everyone knows where I'm at right now
<eagle-American-flag-erection.gif> On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 07:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now What is with all you boys getting hard. It's mafia. Not sex. Also ritoky i give you 9/10 for the freedom messup. We use our penises to scum hunt. I've already caught thrawn and shaiopi with mine, you lack a penis and haven't caught anyone. Coincidence? I think not... And you are so sure on them, aren't you? Why? What is your evidence. though i agree a bit with shaiopi. He seems to be wanting to disregard holyflare entirely. And the tone of his posts throw me off. I like hf. But that could be due to the cute kitty. I may lack a penis, but I have women's intuition, and boobs and a vagina. Sorry but way more powerful than your penis. My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom. Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up. Ohhh.. Process of elimination. Didn't realize he was in your cell. I should probably look at that list. Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet? And are you just basing that case on his mayor post? Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf? George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third.
King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all. The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet. + Show Spoiler +In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now. This post is roughly an hour or so after the game has started. Thrawn hasn't posted at this point, and ritoky's only post at this point is his platform post. The only reason why Meapak would act this way as town is if he had a rock solid conviction that ritoky was absolutely 100% town, going solely off his mayor platform post, so much so that no matter what thrawn posts, it wouldn't affect his read. This is absurd. There is no way anyone could have gotten such a strong read off 1 post. And here is the clincher: On May 28 2014 08:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:31 ritoky wrote:Personally, I find it strange that holyflare has not commented at all on the strongest case against him as mayor to this point. It may just be that he has been floored by the light of freedom and cannot rebut the awesome truth of murrica. Unlike shiaopi's claims of me being lazy and disappearing from the thread claim, I have no intentions of going quietly into the night. Those of us who fight for freedom day in and day out realize the hard work that it entails. We pull ourselves up by our boot straps, put on our pants one leg at a time, and work to rid the world of all that opposes the power of freedom. We know freedom isn't free. (please click for reference) Furthermore the founding father of freedom, George Washington, has reminded me of 2 things: always trust in the power of freedom and murricans always are first. So to further my case for mayor, I propose that Cell A goes first. It also contains the most obvious scum currently in the case of Thrawn, who clearly hates freedom. The founders themselves approve of this plan. Elect Ritoky so that Cell A can go first<ron swanson flag.gif> On May 28 2014 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 28 2014 08:35 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 28 2014 07:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
ritoky and thrawn huh? One of you is scum and you're going down the hard way.
Also no to HF as mayor, I'd rather RNG mayor... Dear god RNG already. Did we not learn our lesson in Golden Sun? Although I think that bringing up the bad idea of Rng makes you more town in that mafia would most likely want to secure mayor for themselves leaving it up to RNG sounds more towny thought process but a bad idea. Meh, not really. Mayoral role is mostly useless in this setup, but thanks for playing! So, we lynching Plammar? No bbz we lynch thrawn after we elect ritoky. On May 29 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Ritoky
I will be out for most of the day (PST) but I implore those who are on the fence about voting to at least elect someone who will put either cell A or cell B first.
That said you should obviously vote for freedom
<eagle / flag / america .gif> By lynching into Cell A first, there are absolutely no repercussions. He can say whatever he wants about the other cells, he could bus as hard as he wants, it doesn't matter if he doesn't actually flip since no one can call him out for it. He equates voting Cell A with freedom, which is actually a non reason. He clearly wants cell A to go first, but offers no analysis of why this would be the best course of action. Instead, all he sees is get Cell A first, lynch thrawn, who cares about the rest. This is indicative of scum mentality, as town would definitely consider how to order things even after they are gone, whereas scum can have their teammates figure out the leftovers. I believe ritoky has shown good analysis (when it came to actually deciding total cell order), and Odin's first few posts look like he is trying to figure out ritoky. Meapak has done neither, his filter is full of fluff and he is trying to get away with it with a D1 mislynch. ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh
That's the person YOU think is scum. What if the person I think is scum is different from the person you think is scum?
Would you rather I voted for the person you think is scum or the person I think is scum?
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On May 31 2014 01:45 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 01:42 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:40 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:38 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:37 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:35 slOosh wrote:
People who haven't voted: Vote.
People who have, let's keep discussion on Cell A. Who should I vote? Who you think is scum. Who should I think is scum? In case you missed it On May 29 2014 15:57 slOosh wrote:I'm reasonably sure that Meapak_Ziphh is the scum in Cell A. I believe his strategy is to buddy up hard to one member to get support for lynching the other. Namely, buddying up to ritoky to lynch thrawn, now replaced with Odin. Take one of his starting posts: On May 28 2014 07:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Where are my cell mates?
I want to analyze the shit out of them This is quickly followed with a slew of On May 28 2014 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Holy mother of god I know who I'm voting for mayor
I also know who the scum is in my cell.
On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now On May 28 2014 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm posting this just so everyone knows where I'm at right now
<eagle-American-flag-erection.gif> On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 07:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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What is with all you boys getting hard.
It's mafia. Not sex.
Also ritoky i give you 9/10 for the freedom messup. We use our penises to scum hunt. I've already caught thrawn and shaiopi with mine, you lack a penis and haven't caught anyone. Coincidence? I think not... And you are so sure on them, aren't you? Why? What is your evidence. though i agree a bit with shaiopi. He seems to be wanting to disregard holyflare entirely. And the tone of his posts throw me off. I like hf. But that could be due to the cute kitty. I may lack a penis, but I have women's intuition, and boobs and a vagina. Sorry but way more powerful than your penis. My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom. Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up. Ohhh.. Process of elimination. Didn't realize he was in your cell. I should probably look at that list. Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet? And are you just basing that case on his mayor post? Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf? George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third.
King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all. The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet. + Show Spoiler +In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now. This post is roughly an hour or so after the game has started. Thrawn hasn't posted at this point, and ritoky's only post at this point is his platform post. The only reason why Meapak would act this way as town is if he had a rock solid conviction that ritoky was absolutely 100% town, going solely off his mayor platform post, so much so that no matter what thrawn posts, it wouldn't affect his read. This is absurd. There is no way anyone could have gotten such a strong read off 1 post. And here is the clincher: On May 28 2014 08:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:31 ritoky wrote:Personally, I find it strange that holyflare has not commented at all on the strongest case against him as mayor to this point. It may just be that he has been floored by the light of freedom and cannot rebut the awesome truth of murrica. Unlike shiaopi's claims of me being lazy and disappearing from the thread claim, I have no intentions of going quietly into the night. Those of us who fight for freedom day in and day out realize the hard work that it entails. We pull ourselves up by our boot straps, put on our pants one leg at a time, and work to rid the world of all that opposes the power of freedom. We know freedom isn't free. (please click for reference) Furthermore the founding father of freedom, George Washington, has reminded me of 2 things: always trust in the power of freedom and murricans always are first. So to further my case for mayor, I propose that Cell A goes first. It also contains the most obvious scum currently in the case of Thrawn, who clearly hates freedom. The founders themselves approve of this plan. Elect Ritoky so that Cell A can go first<ron swanson flag.gif> On May 28 2014 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 28 2014 08:35 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 28 2014 07:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
ritoky and thrawn huh? One of you is scum and you're going down the hard way.
Also no to HF as mayor, I'd rather RNG mayor... Dear god RNG already. Did we not learn our lesson in Golden Sun? Although I think that bringing up the bad idea of Rng makes you more town in that mafia would most likely want to secure mayor for themselves leaving it up to RNG sounds more towny thought process but a bad idea. Meh, not really. Mayoral role is mostly useless in this setup, but thanks for playing! So, we lynching Plammar? No bbz we lynch thrawn after we elect ritoky. On May 29 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Ritoky
I will be out for most of the day (PST) but I implore those who are on the fence about voting to at least elect someone who will put either cell A or cell B first.
That said you should obviously vote for freedom
<eagle / flag / america .gif> By lynching into Cell A first, there are absolutely no repercussions. He can say whatever he wants about the other cells, he could bus as hard as he wants, it doesn't matter if he doesn't actually flip since no one can call him out for it. He equates voting Cell A with freedom, which is actually a non reason. He clearly wants cell A to go first, but offers no analysis of why this would be the best course of action. Instead, all he sees is get Cell A first, lynch thrawn, who cares about the rest. This is indicative of scum mentality, as town would definitely consider how to order things even after they are gone, whereas scum can have their teammates figure out the leftovers. I believe ritoky has shown good analysis (when it came to actually deciding total cell order), and Odin's first few posts look like he is trying to figure out ritoky. Meapak has done neither, his filter is full of fluff and he is trying to get away with it with a D1 mislynch. ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh That's the person YOU think is scum. What if the person I think is scum is different from the person you think is scum? Would you rather I voted for the person you think is scum or the person I think is scum? What??
You think MZ is scum.
How would it make you feel if I voted ritoky or Odin? There's only two of them so I don't think it's unreasonable to ask how you feel about both options.
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On May 31 2014 01:47 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 01:46 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:45 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:42 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:40 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:38 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:37 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:35 slOosh wrote:
People who haven't voted: Vote.
People who have, let's keep discussion on Cell A. Who should I vote? Who you think is scum. Who should I think is scum? In case you missed it On May 29 2014 15:57 slOosh wrote:I'm reasonably sure that Meapak_Ziphh is the scum in Cell A. I believe his strategy is to buddy up hard to one member to get support for lynching the other. Namely, buddying up to ritoky to lynch thrawn, now replaced with Odin. Take one of his starting posts: On May 28 2014 07:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Where are my cell mates?
I want to analyze the shit out of them This is quickly followed with a slew of On May 28 2014 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Holy mother of god I know who I'm voting for mayor
I also know who the scum is in my cell.
On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now On May 28 2014 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm posting this just so everyone knows where I'm at right now
<eagle-American-flag-erection.gif> On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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And you are so sure on them, aren't you?
Why? What is your evidence.
though i agree a bit with shaiopi. He seems to be wanting to disregard holyflare entirely.
And the tone of his posts throw me off.
I like hf. But that could be due to the cute kitty.
I may lack a penis, but I have women's intuition, and boobs and a vagina.
Sorry but way more powerful than your penis. My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom. Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up. Ohhh.. Process of elimination. Didn't realize he was in your cell. I should probably look at that list. Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet? And are you just basing that case on his mayor post? Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf? George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third.
King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all. The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet. + Show Spoiler +In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now. This post is roughly an hour or so after the game has started. Thrawn hasn't posted at this point, and ritoky's only post at this point is his platform post. The only reason why Meapak would act this way as town is if he had a rock solid conviction that ritoky was absolutely 100% town, going solely off his mayor platform post, so much so that no matter what thrawn posts, it wouldn't affect his read. This is absurd. There is no way anyone could have gotten such a strong read off 1 post. And here is the clincher: On May 28 2014 08:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:31 ritoky wrote:Personally, I find it strange that holyflare has not commented at all on the strongest case against him as mayor to this point. It may just be that he has been floored by the light of freedom and cannot rebut the awesome truth of murrica. Unlike shiaopi's claims of me being lazy and disappearing from the thread claim, I have no intentions of going quietly into the night. Those of us who fight for freedom day in and day out realize the hard work that it entails. We pull ourselves up by our boot straps, put on our pants one leg at a time, and work to rid the world of all that opposes the power of freedom. We know freedom isn't free. (please click for reference) Furthermore the founding father of freedom, George Washington, has reminded me of 2 things: always trust in the power of freedom and murricans always are first. So to further my case for mayor, I propose that Cell A goes first. It also contains the most obvious scum currently in the case of Thrawn, who clearly hates freedom. The founders themselves approve of this plan. Elect Ritoky so that Cell A can go first<ron swanson flag.gif> On May 28 2014 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 28 2014 08:35 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 28 2014 07:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
ritoky and thrawn huh? One of you is scum and you're going down the hard way.
Also no to HF as mayor, I'd rather RNG mayor... Dear god RNG already. Did we not learn our lesson in Golden Sun? Although I think that bringing up the bad idea of Rng makes you more town in that mafia would most likely want to secure mayor for themselves leaving it up to RNG sounds more towny thought process but a bad idea. Meh, not really. Mayoral role is mostly useless in this setup, but thanks for playing! So, we lynching Plammar? No bbz we lynch thrawn after we elect ritoky. On May 29 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Ritoky
I will be out for most of the day (PST) but I implore those who are on the fence about voting to at least elect someone who will put either cell A or cell B first.
That said you should obviously vote for freedom
<eagle / flag / america .gif> By lynching into Cell A first, there are absolutely no repercussions. He can say whatever he wants about the other cells, he could bus as hard as he wants, it doesn't matter if he doesn't actually flip since no one can call him out for it. He equates voting Cell A with freedom, which is actually a non reason. He clearly wants cell A to go first, but offers no analysis of why this would be the best course of action. Instead, all he sees is get Cell A first, lynch thrawn, who cares about the rest. This is indicative of scum mentality, as town would definitely consider how to order things even after they are gone, whereas scum can have their teammates figure out the leftovers. I believe ritoky has shown good analysis (when it came to actually deciding total cell order), and Odin's first few posts look like he is trying to figure out ritoky. Meapak has done neither, his filter is full of fluff and he is trying to get away with it with a D1 mislynch. ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh That's the person YOU think is scum. What if the person I think is scum is different from the person you think is scum? Would you rather I voted for the person you think is scum or the person I think is scum? What?? You think MZ is scum. How would it make you feel if I voted ritoky or Odin? There's only two of them so I don't think it's unreasonable to ask how you feel about both options. I'd think you are wrong, and depending on your explanations for voting them I might consider you scum.
Lets say I did like Palmar and didn't offer you any explanation. Would you consider me scum for that?
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On May 31 2014 01:54 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 01:30 batsnacks wrote:I want to talk about Odin's response to MZ's last big post (I fixed a missing red tag): On May 30 2014 17:25 OdinOfPergo wrote:Ok actually, I've been trying to wrap my head around your meaning in this post for a while now. And I just can't do it. SO here, these are my thoughts about it and hopefully people can elaborate. And yes, just to bring up hairs, I'm going to use red font! HA! (Really it was because tl doesn't have yellow t.t) On May 30 2014 17:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 30 2014 16:51 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Like yes, I don't post 65536 freaking post a cycle. It will never happen. But you are saying I have produced nothing this game.
And you are out-right lying about it because in my limited number of post this game I have produced more content than like 80% of the players here.
And you want to lynch me for it.
Why? I want to lynch you because you're scum and you've been waffling between me and rit, How exactly? Just because I was unsure of who was scum makes me "waffling"?" My second question is how the hell did you come to the conclusion 100% Odin is scum before I ever even replaced in? Like you already know my alignment. You don't do analyses on me for it. You're post imply you know it. And have known it since the start of the game. you thought it was gonna be rit for a long time but never committed so now that I'm under the gun you can switch to me. I didn't "think for a long time" I thought for the two hours I played catch up, 20 minutes in the shower, and then POSTED I THOUGHT MABY Rit's motivations should be questioned. Was I wrong for doing that? No, I still think Rit's motivations seem weird. Maby less scummy because of my progressing read on you. But still odd none-the-less. I really don't care about what else you've done, I'm looking at how you've played your cell and all you've done is angle yourself to stay alive by making sure you'll be on the right side of the lynch. Oh of course!, I mean why should you care about what I've done?!~ You obviously already know my alignment so why try to even BOTHER FIGURING IT OUT? FUCK.. Your first 5 or 6 posts are all about the bad things that ritoky did but as I pointed out, you never called him scum. My first few post were me bringing what I thought, how I came to those conclusions, and trying to elaborate on said CONCLUSIONS, with people! Like I don't even understand you here. Of course I'm going to try to stay alive. When I replaced into this game and caught up, many ppl were posting suspicions of me. As town it would be against my wincon to NOT TRY TO SURVIVE. Aside from Palmar I'm the only person you've actually called scum and aggressively gone after, you did this after it became apparent that ritoky was not catching on as a lynch. [red.. you know what? I'm not even mad. My reads develop. You know that's how it works. I read stuff, make decisions, and then repeat. That's textbook opportunistic scum play in an attempt to stay alive. You kept your options open until you saw which way the thread was going. Don't give me BS about the other reads you've given, I don't care because those don't matter right now. All that matters is you, me, and ritoky, and it's clear your focus isn't finding scum but instead staying alive, and that's a scum play right there. Repeat statement. Of course you don't give a damn about what I've posted. Why try to figure out if I'm actually scum? You don't need a reason to call me scum or anything. No never. You don't even have to read my post! It's not like you didn't receive a msg from the fucking host telling you my alignment or anything. GOD WHY WOULD ANYONE EVER TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOMEONE ELSES ALIGNMENT?! Odin's responses are in red. Anyway right after this post Palmar comes into the thread with this: On May 30 2014 18:25 Palmar wrote:
Odin I'm not mafia. If you dn't agree that I'm not mafia I'm going to keep voting you because you're being intentionally and willingly thick. You know I do whatever I want to do as any alignment, so me playing anti-town should be a null-tell to you.
I don't even care if you believe it. Just admit that your scumread on me is dumb, even if you're lying. I think Palmar is trying draw attention away from Odin's credible responses by trying to get Odin to blow up and "act emo" again. He is trying to get the thread to focus on Odin's bad posts by provoking Odin to make more of them. In a later post Palmar says specifically: On May 30 2014 23:48 Palmar wrote:
I like your playstyle (I'll teach you to format your posts some day, that's the one real issue I have) but for in-game purposes making you emo would be great.
So why does Palmar go on to vote MZ after all that? I'm not really sure. Maybe he realized trying to get Odin lynched is a lost cause at this point. I respect you as a human being but this post is garbage. [/red]
I respect you because you got me to respond to nothing but at least not all of my posts are garbage like yours.
On May 31 2014 01:55 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 01:49 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:47 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:46 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:45 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:42 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:40 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:38 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:37 batsnacks wrote:
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Who should I vote? Who you think is scum. Who should I think is scum? In case you missed it On May 29 2014 15:57 slOosh wrote:I'm reasonably sure that Meapak_Ziphh is the scum in Cell A. I believe his strategy is to buddy up hard to one member to get support for lynching the other. Namely, buddying up to ritoky to lynch thrawn, now replaced with Odin. Take one of his starting posts: On May 28 2014 07:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Where are my cell mates?
I want to analyze the shit out of them This is quickly followed with a slew of On May 28 2014 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Holy mother of god I know who I'm voting for mayor
I also know who the scum is in my cell.
On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now On May 28 2014 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm posting this just so everyone knows where I'm at right now
<eagle-American-flag-erection.gif> On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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Ohhh.. Process of elimination.
Didn't realize he was in your cell.
I should probably look at that list.
Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet?
And are you just basing that case on his mayor post?
Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf?
George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third.
King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all. The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet. + Show Spoiler +In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now. This post is roughly an hour or so after the game has started. Thrawn hasn't posted at this point, and ritoky's only post at this point is his platform post. The only reason why Meapak would act this way as town is if he had a rock solid conviction that ritoky was absolutely 100% town, going solely off his mayor platform post, so much so that no matter what thrawn posts, it wouldn't affect his read. This is absurd. There is no way anyone could have gotten such a strong read off 1 post. And here is the clincher: On May 28 2014 08:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:31 ritoky wrote:Personally, I find it strange that holyflare has not commented at all on the strongest case against him as mayor to this point. It may just be that he has been floored by the light of freedom and cannot rebut the awesome truth of murrica. Unlike shiaopi's claims of me being lazy and disappearing from the thread claim, I have no intentions of going quietly into the night. Those of us who fight for freedom day in and day out realize the hard work that it entails. We pull ourselves up by our boot straps, put on our pants one leg at a time, and work to rid the world of all that opposes the power of freedom. We know freedom isn't free. (please click for reference) Furthermore the founding father of freedom, George Washington, has reminded me of 2 things: always trust in the power of freedom and murricans always are first. So to further my case for mayor, I propose that Cell A goes first. It also contains the most obvious scum currently in the case of Thrawn, who clearly hates freedom. The founders themselves approve of this plan. Elect Ritoky so that Cell A can go first<ron swanson flag.gif> On May 28 2014 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
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Meh, not really. Mayoral role is mostly useless in this setup, but thanks for playing!
So, we lynching Plammar? No bbz we lynch thrawn after we elect ritoky. On May 29 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Ritoky
I will be out for most of the day (PST) but I implore those who are on the fence about voting to at least elect someone who will put either cell A or cell B first.
That said you should obviously vote for freedom
<eagle / flag / america .gif> By lynching into Cell A first, there are absolutely no repercussions. He can say whatever he wants about the other cells, he could bus as hard as he wants, it doesn't matter if he doesn't actually flip since no one can call him out for it. He equates voting Cell A with freedom, which is actually a non reason. He clearly wants cell A to go first, but offers no analysis of why this would be the best course of action. Instead, all he sees is get Cell A first, lynch thrawn, who cares about the rest. This is indicative of scum mentality, as town would definitely consider how to order things even after they are gone, whereas scum can have their teammates figure out the leftovers. I believe ritoky has shown good analysis (when it came to actually deciding total cell order), and Odin's first few posts look like he is trying to figure out ritoky. Meapak has done neither, his filter is full of fluff and he is trying to get away with it with a D1 mislynch. ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh That's the person YOU think is scum. What if the person I think is scum is different from the person you think is scum? Would you rather I voted for the person you think is scum or the person I think is scum? What?? You think MZ is scum. How would it make you feel if I voted ritoky or Odin? There's only two of them so I don't think it's unreasonable to ask how you feel about both options. I'd think you are wrong, and depending on your explanations for voting them I might consider you scum. Lets say I did like Palmar and didn't offer you any explanation. Would you consider me scum for that? It would add on to my considerations. How is any of this relevant for making your decision?
You've said a lot about MZ but very little about Odin and rit. Even your case on MZ reads like your just went item by item in his filter and ignored everyone else in his cell. Plus I just felt like having a dialog.
Anyway, while we're talking about Palmar, has his explanation-less voting been added to your considerations?
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If you made a list of everyone in each cell sorted by how scummy they are I would save it.
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On May 31 2014 02:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 02:15 Palmar wrote:On May 31 2014 02:04 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 01:57 Palmar wrote:
Btw if MZ flips town, it was ritoky. Odin is basically clear. I'm all aboard the lynch meapak train,but the fact that no one really wants to lynch anyone else concerns me. Either there's some megabus action going on, or meapak is town. yeah kinda what I was thinking. Not sure I want to do anything about it and MZ doing jack shit doesn't help clear him. So irresponsible this MZ, not putting in effort. I've been trying to solve my cell but everyone has been getting lost in the rest of the game. Not gonna lie, the downright refusal of some people to actually pay attention to what I've said about odin is a little frustrating which has probably decreased my posting but hey, you win some you lose some. Question for the thread, why has odin been so scarred of getting lynched this whole day and he's never had more than one vote on him.
That question at the end goes two ways. Why have you not been scarred of getting lynched this whole day when everyone has been piled on top of you the entire time? Is it enough just to see us proved wrong if you flip town?
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On May 31 2014 02:26 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 00:55 IAmRobik wrote:On May 30 2014 11:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 30 2014 11:20 mtamburini wrote:On May 30 2014 08:51 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 30 2014 08:46 mtamburini wrote:On May 28 2014 09:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 09:41 mtamburini wrote:On May 28 2014 07:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:30 mtamburini wrote:
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Why would RNG be stupid in this setup? Because it is. It's not even statistically significant in this setup. And it so worked in the other game I played (sarcasm) Why do you say its not significant? Guessing 1/3 in one cell is better then guessing possibly 5/33 in that other game. And guessing 1/2 is better than that so I dont see any justification in your counter point. Because 1/3 is still only 33%. I mean it works for my own cell because i have a fifty percent chance of hitting mafia in my own cell, but everyone else only thirty three percent. That may seem a lot, but its actually not. Id rather base my reads of mafia on plays and their reads rather than on some stupid statistical machine that can't read into what a person writes. In our DM games mafia is 25% or less of the town as we use a 4:1 ratio. Your point is invalid. Sure READS are apart of the game and Im thankful I am in a position to absorb as much information as I can (besides your group being in the last spot) I can explore other possibilities besides my RNG results. Yeah but we dont rng who we think is mafia, then lynch based on that, so your point is invalid. We base on reads. So start absorbing information, and start explorin other possibilities, because youve barely done anything this game. Your post is bs because you get a couple reads and then you use POE as a way to lynch people which is statistics being used. Your tunnel on me is bs Ive read through your filter and nothing really impressed me and you keep talking about me not being here and not posting and are ready to lynch me when it comes to my cell BUT when you talk about the people in your cell you refuse to give reads on them because they have not posted. If you do not understand statistics then do not comment on them. Ooo, you are really starting to piss me off, for one, im not tunneling you. Tbh, i could care less about you, what im trying to do is figure out the game. You know, you arent the only cell in this game. I have to get reads on other cells, and yours is the furthest from my mind right now. I am thr last cell, which means I'm going to be in this game longer than you. The rest of my cell (ehich i need to look on more now that they have posted) werent doing anything, and it was just me. I understand statistics perfectly. I actually got an A in that class, so back off. If my filter did nothing to impress you, then maybe it wasnt meant for you. I gave my reads on each cell, what I thought about each person, etc. so if you arent seeing anything in my filter, then you need to get you eyes checked. But im done talking to you. Once you actually do something better for this town, becausyour filter sure as hell doesnt impress me, then we will talk. That might be the most forced line of all time. The pseudo-joke, pseudo-anger makes me want to vomit. Forced line? I didn't even force it. Why would I have a reason to? Basically, tamburini is arguing with me for the sake of arguing. he has called me scum each forum game we have played on the basis of trying to get me lynched, ive been town each game, and this game is so different.
Why do you even care if he tries to get you lynched everyone is going to be dead by the time it's your cell's turn? What about what's happening right now in the next few hours?
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On May 31 2014 02:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 02:23 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:15 Palmar wrote:On May 31 2014 02:04 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 01:57 Palmar wrote:
Btw if MZ flips town, it was ritoky. Odin is basically clear. I'm all aboard the lynch meapak train,but the fact that no one really wants to lynch anyone else concerns me. Either there's some megabus action going on, or meapak is town. yeah kinda what I was thinking. Not sure I want to do anything about it and MZ doing jack shit doesn't help clear him. So irresponsible this MZ, not putting in effort. I've been trying to solve my cell but everyone has been getting lost in the rest of the game. Not gonna lie, the downright refusal of some people to actually pay attention to what I've said about odin is a little frustrating which has probably decreased my posting but hey, you win some you lose some. Question for the thread, why has odin been so scarred of getting lynched this whole day and he's never had more than one vote on him. That question at the end goes two ways. Why have you not been scarred of getting lynched this whole day when everyone has been piled on top of you the entire time? Is it enough just to see us proved wrong if you flip town? I'm never scarred of getting lynched as town, go read my town games where I get lynched, if people want me dead my last act is to go quietly and not shit up the thread and provide reads. I've basically laid it all out why I think odin is scum but people are either still hung up on the bullshit "buddy" with rit or are just not reading the thread. And yeah not gonna lie, I do get immense pleasure out of proving people wrong with my flip.
Odin responded to everything you laid out. Considering no one is voting him and everyone wants to vote you, his responses must have been acceptable even with the outbursts and formatting all of his posts poorly.
I see three possible universes:
1. You are mafia and every mafia member is bussing you simultaneously
2. You are town, Odin is mafia, and everyone is stupid
3. Ritoky is mafia and the only person to ever suspect him was Odin
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On May 31 2014 02:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 02:40 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:23 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:15 Palmar wrote:On May 31 2014 02:04 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 01:57 Palmar wrote:
Btw if MZ flips town, it was ritoky. Odin is basically clear. I'm all aboard the lynch meapak train,but the fact that no one really wants to lynch anyone else concerns me. Either there's some megabus action going on, or meapak is town. yeah kinda what I was thinking. Not sure I want to do anything about it and MZ doing jack shit doesn't help clear him. So irresponsible this MZ, not putting in effort. I've been trying to solve my cell but everyone has been getting lost in the rest of the game. Not gonna lie, the downright refusal of some people to actually pay attention to what I've said about odin is a little frustrating which has probably decreased my posting but hey, you win some you lose some. Question for the thread, why has odin been so scarred of getting lynched this whole day and he's never had more than one vote on him. That question at the end goes two ways. Why have you not been scarred of getting lynched this whole day when everyone has been piled on top of you the entire time? Is it enough just to see us proved wrong if you flip town? I'm never scarred of getting lynched as town, go read my town games where I get lynched, if people want me dead my last act is to go quietly and not shit up the thread and provide reads. I've basically laid it all out why I think odin is scum but people are either still hung up on the bullshit "buddy" with rit or are just not reading the thread. And yeah not gonna lie, I do get immense pleasure out of proving people wrong with my flip. Odin responded to everything you laid out. Considering no one is voting him and everyone wants to vote you, his responses must have been acceptable even with the outbursts and formatting all of his posts poorly. I see three possible universes: 1. You are mafia and every mafia member is bussing you simultaneously 2. You are town, Odin is mafia, and everyone is stupid 3. Ritoky is mafia and the only person to ever suspect him was Odin Odin's responses have been terrible. But apparently, for this thread the content doesn't matter, only that he made a big post with red text to point by point "rebut" what was said against him. Odin can't really answer my core charge that he was just waiting to see which person the thread would pick as scum but he's made enough fluff posts for people to not realize that. I suppose you're going with universe 1?
Think about it from my perspective. If Odin is mafia it means literally everyone has been wrong, except you, ever since Odin's very first post. If Odin is town, it means just about everyone was right. What would you do if you were me? I don't like the idea of every person voting for the same guy because it's going to hurt voting analysis later but I don't feel like I logically have any other option.
Maybe Odin did just point by point rebuke what was said about him. Maybe you could point by point rebuke his point by point rebuke. If it worked for Odin, maybe it would work for you. I don't think saying more is going to hurt your chances at this point.
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On May 31 2014 03:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 02:57 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:40 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:23 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:15 Palmar wrote:On May 31 2014 02:04 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 01:57 Palmar wrote:
Btw if MZ flips town, it was ritoky. Odin is basically clear. I'm all aboard the lynch meapak train,but the fact that no one really wants to lynch anyone else concerns me. Either there's some megabus action going on, or meapak is town. yeah kinda what I was thinking. Not sure I want to do anything about it and MZ doing jack shit doesn't help clear him. So irresponsible this MZ, not putting in effort. I've been trying to solve my cell but everyone has been getting lost in the rest of the game. Not gonna lie, the downright refusal of some people to actually pay attention to what I've said about odin is a little frustrating which has probably decreased my posting but hey, you win some you lose some. Question for the thread, why has odin been so scarred of getting lynched this whole day and he's never had more than one vote on him. That question at the end goes two ways. Why have you not been scarred of getting lynched this whole day when everyone has been piled on top of you the entire time? Is it enough just to see us proved wrong if you flip town? I'm never scarred of getting lynched as town, go read my town games where I get lynched, if people want me dead my last act is to go quietly and not shit up the thread and provide reads. I've basically laid it all out why I think odin is scum but people are either still hung up on the bullshit "buddy" with rit or are just not reading the thread. And yeah not gonna lie, I do get immense pleasure out of proving people wrong with my flip. Odin responded to everything you laid out. Considering no one is voting him and everyone wants to vote you, his responses must have been acceptable even with the outbursts and formatting all of his posts poorly. I see three possible universes: 1. You are mafia and every mafia member is bussing you simultaneously 2. You are town, Odin is mafia, and everyone is stupid 3. Ritoky is mafia and the only person to ever suspect him was Odin Odin's responses have been terrible. But apparently, for this thread the content doesn't matter, only that he made a big post with red text to point by point "rebut" what was said against him. Odin can't really answer my core charge that he was just waiting to see which person the thread would pick as scum but he's made enough fluff posts for people to not realize that. I suppose you're going with universe 1? Think about it from my perspective. If Odin is mafia it means literally everyone has been wrong, except you, ever since Odin's very first post. If Odin is town, it means just about everyone was right. What would you do if you were me? I don't like the idea of every person voting for the same guy because it's going to hurt voting analysis later but I don't feel like I logically have any other option. Maybe Odin did just point by point rebuke what was said about him. Maybe you could point by point rebuke his point by point rebuke. If it worked for Odin, maybe it would work for you. I don't think saying more is going to hurt your chances at this point. Nah I get where you're coming from which is frustrating but nobody wants to be the only person defending someone. As for posting a rebuttal to his rebuttal I feel like that's pointless. I've laid my case out a half a dozen times in my filter and explained why odin is scum. If people didn't listen then, I doubt they'll listen now so I'll let my flip do the talking.
Okay consider this then.
If you are mafia, and every other mafia member is busing you, I wouldn't expect you to be panicked when lots of people vote you because everything is going according to plan. It's like the joker says no one panics when everything is going according to plan.
If you were town, I would expect you to panic if everyone started voting you and you didn't know why. As far as you know, you've defended yourself as best you could, yet people are still voting you over the other guy.
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On May 31 2014 03:08 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 03:06 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 03:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:57 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:40 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:23 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:15 Palmar wrote:
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yeah kinda what I was thinking. Not sure I want to do anything about it and MZ doing jack shit doesn't help clear him.
So irresponsible this MZ, not putting in effort. I've been trying to solve my cell but everyone has been getting lost in the rest of the game. Not gonna lie, the downright refusal of some people to actually pay attention to what I've said about odin is a little frustrating which has probably decreased my posting but hey, you win some you lose some. Question for the thread, why has odin been so scarred of getting lynched this whole day and he's never had more than one vote on him. That question at the end goes two ways. Why have you not been scarred of getting lynched this whole day when everyone has been piled on top of you the entire time? Is it enough just to see us proved wrong if you flip town? I'm never scarred of getting lynched as town, go read my town games where I get lynched, if people want me dead my last act is to go quietly and not shit up the thread and provide reads. I've basically laid it all out why I think odin is scum but people are either still hung up on the bullshit "buddy" with rit or are just not reading the thread. And yeah not gonna lie, I do get immense pleasure out of proving people wrong with my flip. Odin responded to everything you laid out. Considering no one is voting him and everyone wants to vote you, his responses must have been acceptable even with the outbursts and formatting all of his posts poorly. I see three possible universes: 1. You are mafia and every mafia member is bussing you simultaneously 2. You are town, Odin is mafia, and everyone is stupid 3. Ritoky is mafia and the only person to ever suspect him was Odin Odin's responses have been terrible. But apparently, for this thread the content doesn't matter, only that he made a big post with red text to point by point "rebut" what was said against him. Odin can't really answer my core charge that he was just waiting to see which person the thread would pick as scum but he's made enough fluff posts for people to not realize that. I suppose you're going with universe 1? Think about it from my perspective. If Odin is mafia it means literally everyone has been wrong, except you, ever since Odin's very first post. If Odin is town, it means just about everyone was right. What would you do if you were me? I don't like the idea of every person voting for the same guy because it's going to hurt voting analysis later but I don't feel like I logically have any other option. Maybe Odin did just point by point rebuke what was said about him. Maybe you could point by point rebuke his point by point rebuke. If it worked for Odin, maybe it would work for you. I don't think saying more is going to hurt your chances at this point. Nah I get where you're coming from which is frustrating but nobody wants to be the only person defending someone. As for posting a rebuttal to his rebuttal I feel like that's pointless. I've laid my case out a half a dozen times in my filter and explained why odin is scum. If people didn't listen then, I doubt they'll listen now so I'll let my flip do the talking. Okay consider this then. If you are mafia, and every other mafia member is busing you, I wouldn't expect you to be panicked when lots of people vote you because everything is going according to plan. It's like the joker says no one panics when everything is going according to plan. If you were town, I would expect you to panic if everyone started voting you and you didn't know why. As far as you know, you've defended yourself as best you could, yet people are still voting you over the other guy. Who is mafia with meapak?
If Cell C was today and the deadline was now I'd be voting you.
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