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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 09 2014 04:51 Koshi wrote: The same counts for Steve. Why take the risk as scum and vote Vivax? So let's look at what Poofter did outside the Vivax lynch: - - - Oh yeah. That's it. No it's not the same for steve at all, he had maintained from the start that vivax was town. He even started to give him scum points at the end of the day. He was set there. Poofter was not. He has no incentive to call vivax towny because of Steveling at that point. If you're saying he did it to look better after the flip then everything you have been saying about Steveling not doing it for credit is bs. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On May 08 2014 07:19 Tehpoofter wrote: Mderg what do you think of Koshi this game? I got a slight scummy vibe from him before, he seemed pretty townie on the last pages, though. His steve defense is not alignment indicative in my opinion. I really like this post On May 08 2014 20:29 Koshi wrote: Yes, that and the point he refuses to cooperate are decent. But how come you can't seem to grasp the bigger picture this game? You jump from target to target to target and always it is 100% sure. What about what I wrote about Poofter? Why not comment on that? I alsoo agree with the guys koshi wanted copchecked, if one of me, steve or poofter turn out as checked scum it would change the game quite a bit in favor of town. (pretty obvious copchecks tbh) What I don´t really like is him saying that scum is within poofter, me and hf. Seems like too much focus on the steve situation regarding steve when his scumminess is plain obvious. I´m leaning town on koshi, though, after reading the past few pages. On May 08 2014 20:20 Koshi wrote: mderg and poofter had me as town I think and now that I make a comment on poofter & HF during night suddenly they both flip their reads on me? kk I didn´t have you as town, just so you don´t continue under wrong assumptions. I kinda get the feeling that steve is acting as scummy as possible right now. I don´t know why he would do it but it seems to be the case. Maybe trying to seem "too scummy to be scum"? I don´t know. Why would you want the lynch to be as fast as possible? I know steve gave a reason but town needs additional time way more than scum does. That play doesn´t make any sense Right now I´m unsure who the second scum is besides steve who I really hope is scum. It might be one of hf and poofter, they´ve been strangely buddying quite a bit. Oats is also still far from cleared. I´m slightly leaning town on koshi. Cav has kinda been under my radar so he didn´t seem scummy but also not particularly townie. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
And what are we waiting for? Let's get this over with. The town will believe me post mortem at least. I'm going to sleep now, if when I check this thread again I'm not lynched, you guys have to be flipping bad to not see what's going on. ##unbote ##bote: Steveling | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Is that what you're suggesting? Or are you presenting an alternate theory or what? | ||
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Holyflare
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On May 09 2014 06:26 Holyflare wrote: Mderg you think Steveling is mafia, pretty obvious at that. So then you also think that me and poofter could also contain scum because of buddying. That therefore means we are super hardcore bussing scum buddy Steveling then? Is that what you're suggesting? Or are you presenting an alternate theory or what? Yes, that´s what I´m suggesting. It´s not that unlikely considering how obvious steve´s scumminess is. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 09 2014 06:55 mderg wrote: Yes, that´s what I´m suggesting. It´s not that unlikely considering how obvious steve´s scumminess is. Ok, that's just a pretty odd conclusion to have :p The buddying you mention between me and poofter, where does that occur? I know me and koshi were talking about him previously but what input do you have to that discussion? Do you agree with koshi that poofter mentioning vivax was town because of steve looking like mafia was a case of too much information on poofters part then? If steve is really obviously mafia, why is koshi defending him so much? | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On May 09 2014 07:01 Holyflare wrote: Ok, that's just a pretty odd conclusion to have :p The buddying you mention between me and poofter, where does that occur? I know me and koshi were talking about him previously but what input do you have to that discussion? Do you agree with koshi that poofter mentioning vivax was town because of steve looking like mafia was a case of too much information on poofters part then? If steve is really obviously mafia, why is koshi defending him so much? not sure if buddying is the right word... you and poofter had the same view on about everything on the last few pages. No. Probably something along the lines of steve being "too scummy to be scum" | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
Bote Count Steveling (1): Steveling Not Boting (6): Cavalinho, Koshi, Oatsmaster, Tehpoofter, Holyflare, mderg With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 08 2014 20:20 Koshi wrote: The list I made was like a puzzle. I started this game thinking I needed 5 townreads and this game would be easy but it is impossible to get 5 townreads in this game. I really thought Vivax was scum because he refused to play the game like I know he can. If you want I can explain my townreads at that time. But a lot is based on feels and Vivax being scum... Even though that isn't allowed... I still think mderg/poofter are the lynches for tomorrow and should be copchecked. If we have on because it sounds pretty strong. mderg and poofter had me as town I think and now that I make a comment on poofter & HF during night suddenly they both flip their reads on me? kk HF should be town. I also felt he did the work I did in normall ass mafia but I don't like him anymore. Vivax had him and you as scum... I even forgot about you... Damn this game. So Koshi I have only called you town in one instance here: + Show Spoiler + On May 07 2014 20:10 Tehpoofter wrote: Apologies for my absence. HF looked like he did in the last titanic game where he tunneled straight on DP all of day 1 and won a night bullet as town. The thing he did for like ten pages on Oats felt like that to me. He seems to really want to push his read. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten more traction or rather didn't. He is my town. Steveling is my scum. He went from Vivax us town back off him guys super town omg, to he needs to not do these things of he is scummy. To now boting him and encouraging his lynch. I need to retread when I'm less tired. But I don't see the townie ess there. In fact what I see is scum Steve going from "hey I. Going to protect this town to maybe pocket him then that doesn't really work so might as well begrudgingly bote and pawn it off on someone else. I think if Steve is mafia vivax is town which is hard for me to say because vivax always reads as scummy to me. The attack he did early seemed a bit forced. Oats is a question mark to me I'd like to hear what H F thinks of him now p. that defense of something is too scummy to be scum is bullshit so I don't buy that for a hot minute. As scum you can justify your scumminess in a bunch of ways this is one of the easiest. Cav I feel is the only other person I'm getting town vibes from.... Maybe koshi. Aside from that I haven't said that you were town. I didn't yet check to see mderg's stance on you. My read still is that you're trying hard to get pressure off Steve while he just flounders and sorta quits. Like does his reaction seem townie? The point of calling steve scummy is to put pressure on him for doing something scummy. Can you explain to me what feeling you get from Steve's reaction for the pressure and self voting? "omfg kill HF you guys are idiots I'll laugh at you post game" is basically his whole defense. Why is he not just shrugging off the pressure and trying to find other scum he mentioned something briefly about oats/HF scum team last night. At the EoD yesterday he seemed willing to switch to Oats or me. I feel like Steve if he is town needs to step it up and show his towniness instead of rolling over and dying because if we ML here tomorrow is Lylo which is really bad. If he is scum then keep it up and we will ride this to victory! Oats/Cav what are your feelings on the situation? Can you comment on all those involved myself/steve/koshi/mderg. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 07 2014 20:15 Tehpoofter wrote: Forgot ##bote Steveling Only saving grace for him is that he was scum with me in cell and I did totally just fuck off in that game and him and Palmer carried me. I do however think he might have TMI because his defense of vivax and change of heart afterwards seemed scummy. If U guys have questions I'll be awake in 8hiurs and more active tomorrow as hopefully less work and no deadline of the other game. (Typing on my iPad from bed so all typos are definitely intentional) This post has been brought up a couple times and I worded it poorly. What I mean to say here after boting steve is this. Steve gave a read on me that I was scummy for playing similar to the game me and him played together as scum in Cell Mafia. IF I was trying to read me as town I think that read makes sense given my limited availability. The part about the fact that we won that game was pointless and has no effect/never should have an effect on my read. I only gave him townie points for noticing a similar meta. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 09 2014 06:07 Steveling wrote: How is any of my plays justified if I'm scum? And what are we waiting for? Let's get this over with. The town will believe me post mortem at least. I'm going to sleep now, if when I check this thread again I'm not lynched, you guys have to be flipping bad to not see what's going on. ##unbote ##bote: Steveling I really hope you're scum because post like this make the game really boring if you're town. Rolling over and dying because a couple people are scum reading you is ridiculous. This is over acting whininess and AtE, I can't decide if he is more likely to do this as town or mafia but either way its against the spirit of the game. Speech if you're town: Step it the fuck up and convince us who the scum are! Tell me why you decided voting your town read was a good idea. Tell me why Oats and Hf are scummy. Please do so with more than just 2 sentences like quote some posts. I saw your Oats case from yesterday wasn't the worst. We need more than this though or town is going to straight up lose. Speech if you're scum: Keep up the good work! | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
In his eyes his scum reads are calling him scum but all he's doing is caling them scum back and not answering anything from anyone. Koshi is playing super fucking weird. Everyone sees steve as scummy BUT koshi and koshi isn't asking steve any questions about his play or anything so how is he so sure? he even said "oh he might be scum" later. Everyone has called Steveling scummy but for some reason koshi uses vivax who didn't really feature in this game as a reason to flip his own meta read on me alone when it's not just me on steve | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Steve is a policy lynch at this point tbh. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 09 2014 08:49 Oatsmaster wrote: poofter scum. Steve is a policy lynch at this point tbh. Can you explain? | ||
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