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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 09 2014 00:43 GMT
#821
##bote Steveling
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 09 2014 00:43 GMT
#822
For justice!
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 09 2014 00:45 GMT
#823
On May 09 2014 09:42 Holyflare wrote:
I kind of just want to rip off the band aid and lynch steveling tbh. Given him 3 or 4 days of questioning and outs to explain himself and he just called me mafia repeatedly instead of playing the game.



I gave my speech to him if it does nothing in the next time australians should post then I'm down. In the meantime what is your read on mderg and Koshi? I'm about to have dinner but I might get productive and dive some filters later if Steve is still silent.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 09 2014 00:55 GMT
#824
2) holyflare - me, should be fooking obvious

3) Cavalinho - early town read, the more afk the less town read i/you should be giving him. Complains he never gets to day 2 as town, reaches day 2, much afk (careful town read)
4) mderg - my little fwend

5) Koshi - not asking questions to universal scum read, says vivax wasn't playing properly, took vivax's reads over his own meta of me, odd steve defenses

6) Tehpoofter - not enough activity until now, thoughts aligned about steveling/vivax at end of day 1 but giving steveling more outs and town motivation speeches are weird if he has been paying attention, keep eye on but higher than other greys.

7) Oatsmaster - investigator oats is on the case! Looks interested in finding out inconsistencies, early game was a twat but flip of read after reading my filter shows incentive to town read people, hasn't seemed too knowledgeable or pushy like is as scum

8) Steveling - self explanatory (read his last 2 or 3 filter pages lol)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 09 2014 01:05 GMT
#825
I dunno how to explain my mderg read to you? It's like on my day 1 towny list where i wanted to town read steve for being wrong. It's the case of being wrong but having his own explanation for it that works for him kind of thing?

I guess I'll just say it's a newbie tell.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 09 2014 02:53 GMT
#826
@mderg what do you think about Oats? Do you agree with HF's town read on him?

@Cav Just fyi when you go to Day 2 you're required to post when alive. What you thinking about everything?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 09 2014 03:25 GMT
#827
On May 09 2014 09:45 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 09:42 Holyflare wrote:
I kind of just want to rip off the band aid and lynch steveling tbh. Given him 3 or 4 days of questioning and outs to explain himself and he just called me mafia repeatedly instead of playing the game.



I gave my speech to him if it does nothing in the next time australians should post then I'm down. In the meantime what is your read on mderg and Koshi? I'm about to have dinner but I might get productive and dive some filters later if Steve is still silent.

What do you hope to achieve with a motivational speech?

If he is scum he just starts posting and you rethink everything all over again, you have to ask him direct questions about his play in the game otherwise he can just fabricate things. This also let's you slide by without putting in the effort to question him.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 09 2014 03:30 GMT
#828
On May 09 2014 12:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 09:45 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 09 2014 09:42 Holyflare wrote:
I kind of just want to rip off the band aid and lynch steveling tbh. Given him 3 or 4 days of questioning and outs to explain himself and he just called me mafia repeatedly instead of playing the game.



I gave my speech to him if it does nothing in the next time australians should post then I'm down. In the meantime what is your read on mderg and Koshi? I'm about to have dinner but I might get productive and dive some filters later if Steve is still silent.

What do you hope to achieve with a motivational speech?

If he is scum he just starts posting and you rethink everything all over again, you have to ask him direct questions about his play in the game otherwise he can just fabricate things. This also let's you slide by without putting in the effort to question him.


A Speech is designed to reach out to someone who may feel cornered. It happens a lot in video mafia where someone has no clue what to say and look hella nervous. If they are scum they act a particular way if they are town more likely that act another way (its very vague and not important because its live but still) reacting to a speech can give you a better tell on someones alignment. If they just sit there and cry about how wrong everyone is they're going to get lynched its just not how to play.

I have posted questions to him. About what his thought process is about the Vivax situation and he has largely ignored them. I can repost them for him but if hes not motivated to read my questions he can't answer them. If he ignores the speech the lynch him anyways.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 09 2014 03:38 GMT
#829
Right, why would he feel cornered if he "knew vivax's alignment all along" or "knows that we are scum"? That screams the opposite of being cornered. Being cornered and responding with i don't knows or i can't remember is town. Responding with refusals and absolutes is normally mafia.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 09 2014 03:40 GMT
#830
Where the hell is everyone else....?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 09 2014 03:41 GMT
#831
On May 07 2014 22:13 LoneMeow wrote:
Night 1





<insert flavor here>



Final bote count:

Vivax (5): Holyflare, thrawn2112, Cavalinho, Koshi, Steveling, Oatsmaster
Cavalinho (0): Steveling
Steveling (1): Tehpoofter, Cavalinho, Tehpoofter
Koshi (0): Steveling
Oatsmaster (1): Holyflare, Steveling

Not boting (2): mderg, Vivax


Vivax the Naive Recruit (Vanilla Townie) is lynched.



Remember to send your night actions to all hosts.



So assuming you're town HF and Steve is red. Who i smost likely to be scum here? (I realize vote count analysis is kinda lame after 1 day but still) I feel like in this type of lynching it might be something more interesting. Not 100% sure where I want to go with this tbh or if its informative but I feel like its hyper unlikely that there wasn't at least one scum in that vote. That would require HF and mderg are both red. Which would be the opposite of what I think now. So I feel like our scum is between those on the lynch block.

If we're right about Steve being scum then I think Koshi is like super obvious to be with him not sure if its too obvious though . He might just be really wrong town he is my biggest question mark.

Cav could be that lurker scum that sees his partner going down in flames and just tries to go the busing route.

Oats Would be the scum mastermind type his attempt to go from scumsteve to me was really odd and then after that tried to say I scumslipped basically a really weak push on me maybe hoping it gained some traction.


I realize associative reads are thin for some reason especially in forum mafia but What does everyone else think? How many mafia were on the Vivax lynch? In my world I'm thinking 2.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 09 2014 03:46 GMT
#832
On May 09 2014 12:38 Holyflare wrote:
Right, why would he feel cornered if he "knew vivax's alignment all along" or "knows that we are scum"? That screams the opposite of being cornered. Being cornered and responding with i don't knows or i can't remember is town. Responding with refusals and absolutes is normally mafia.




I agree. Basically I'm trying to get a read on steve more so than just super obviously scummy thing he did at EoD occasionally donkey town do shit like that and I don't want to go to lylo just cause someone was playing odd. He has yet to change my mind and silence will just make me more sure he is mafia. I'm pretty sure HF me and you may just be argueing about which method is best to push on someone scummy but we actually have similar intentions.

I also agree where the hell is everyone else? Like discussion please!!! Steve only has 2 bote I think were hitting mafia with him but there is one more, feel free to raise your hand or townie people point them out.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 09 2014 03:46 GMT
#833
Well i think it's pretty evident by my town list :p
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 09 2014 03:48 GMT
#834
Only qualm i have with oats was him hammering vivax while i was talking to him because i thought the same thing you did in regards to the steveling/vivax thing. It's not a super massive deal though and he explaind why and he was kinda right, vivax had like 4 days to play and didn't.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 09 2014 03:51 GMT
#835
I've literally stayed up till 5am just so i could have a conversation with you dude because nobody else can seemingly be fucked to play and just throws your name in arbitrary scummy lists.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 09 2014 03:51 GMT
#836
Kinda happy for thrawn, he got to escape. Some day I shall be freeeee!
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 09 2014 04:00 GMT
#837
On May 09 2014 12:51 Holyflare wrote:
Kinda happy for thrawn, he got to escape. Some day I shall be freeeee!


f that we winning this game HF help me find the scum and glad you stay up. I might be awake when you rise if you're going to bed. If not i'll see ya tomorrow. I'm heading out of work right now.




Other people be town please!! !
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 09 2014 04:01 GMT
#838
Yeh going to sleep :p
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 09 2014 04:21 GMT
#839
Hi. Apologies for the afk, got some real life shit going on at the moment. Going to be as active as I can, but don't expect miracles. Let's get to work.

I'm not really sure we should vote off Steveling today. Martyrs are usually town more often than not, so I feel like lynching him after he selfvotes like this wouldn't be a great idea. If he's scum, I seriously doubt he would just roll over and die if people started scumreading him. Maybe it's just me. His play hasn't been stellar, so I'm definitely not crossing him off the list, but I think we should look at other people today.

If we believe Koshi's rb claim, I think Poofter might be a good lynch. Koshi raised some good points about what Poofter has done this game, and when compared to what he was doing outside of it...It isn't good.

I also think Oats might be a good lynch. Steveling and I have both pointed out his opportunism throughout this game thus far, but the rest of his filter at the time seemed pretty town to me. I'm going to pick through what he said thus far and see if he's another viable lynch candidate today.

TLDR: I think we should lynch between Steveling/Poofter/Oats. I still think HF is town, and at face value Koshi is town as well. Mderg is slightly townie. Will do more research and post findings ASAP to see where the town stands.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 09 2014 05:14 GMT
#840
@Holyflare why is it that you believe Koshi's claim but you think he's null anyway?

@Poofter what makes you so sure that there were two scum on Vivax? Is it associative reads and such or merely PoE? I noticed that you don't have mderg as town but you exclude him from your list of scumreads. Why isn't he scum?

@Koshi what are your current reads and why don't you want to lynch Steveling?

Also, I just looked through Oats' filter and I want to know his current reads. He says Poof is scum but doesn't back it up with anything. His second page was towny but I want a little more substance than what he has done at the moment.

And he's still being opportunistic wtf.
Spectaticle
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