You Only Shoot Once Mafia

On April 27 2014 01:15 yamato77 wrote:
I'd almost want to pre-empt Caller's nuke at this point, just to make sure Palmar DOESN'T do whatever it is he said he would.

On April 27 2014 01:33 yamato77 wrote:
I assume when you say caller you mean Palmar, because there is every reason to take the nuke seriously, the role is in the OP.

Why is it scummy to take Palmar seriously?

On April 27 2014 10:18 justanothertownie wrote:

Good question. What the fuck?

On April 28 2014 07:08 justanothertownie wrote:

Ok, what about Vayne/Palmar?

On April 30 2014 07:41 Koshi wrote:
jow VA. Tell these scrubs I am town.

On May 01 2014 09:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, seriously. All of the people on oats tell me why Foolishness is town right the fuck now. BHs mason claim does not count. If you can't you're on the wrong wagon.
Austin, take a look at your wagon and tell me you are content with the people on it. I dare you.

On May 01 2014 12:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
The fuck
and he didn't shoot anyone?
lol oats
Alright good this game isn't as hopeless as I thought.
Ace/RoL next imo
Can't decide where I sit on VA

On May 02 2014 10:08 Foolishness wrote:

What I learned is that we should be killing RebirthOfLegend, Palmar, and Caller.

On May 03 2014 06:15 Caller wrote:
check ve cuz he's scum, easy

im surprised we havent gotten a coroner report yet. :/

On May 07 2014 08:08 Tehpoofter wrote:
@VA do you think that Palmer/Caller reactions was scum on scum? scum on town? Like seeing how the days have played out which is most likely in your mind?

7 posts 3 given.

On May 07 2014 09:00 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar has good reads this game. Oats/BH were both scumreads (granted BH was traitor) and Foolishness is in there too. No way in hell I will be voting him. Also marv/rayn meta on Palmar says he is town. Idgaf Palmar is most likely town Palmar afaik.

On May 07 2014 08:58 austinmcc wrote:
What are the reads? Cuz as best I can tell, he's got enough town that you likely end up at the tail end of his scumlist.

I get the palmar/caller thing, but the summation of your thoughts on foolishness is "he has PRETTY MUCH the same reads as me", with no further detail, and no explanation of where you guys disagree?

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Look at what he does with SnB, prplhz, or people in past games. He pulls from multiple games, generally creating a full idea of what someone plays like.

With oats, his QT posts are:





those are both D1. Nothing about oats's stuff ever brought to thread though, and that was it. No more posts in QT about his meta. Nothing in the game about his meta. I don't see "hey here's a single post and a single post" as equivalent to what I think of when I think of Fool looking at someone's past games. There are...NO conclusions there except "eerily similar", there was NO checkup on whether people who said "oats = oats" had merit, etc.

If you read just the text of those posts, you go "Foolishness says he's looking into oats!" But there's nothing in thread. There's no analysis, no conclusions, anywhere. Especially in a game where I had a hard time convincing people that this looked like mafia oats and not "oats", it is ... off ... to me that the above is ALL we've got, ESPECIALLY if Foolishness thought he was scum, and ESPECIALLY if he was almost the D1 lynch and Foolishness thought he was scum, and ESPECIALLY if Foolishness was the secondary lynch candidate AND oats was almost the D1 lynch AND Foolishness thought he was scum.


If you're town and Foolishness is scum, you're going wrong because you're not drawing a complete picture of Foolishness, you're valuing little things he says in a QT over what's in thread, you're looking at some things and you're not looking for CONCLUSIONS and ACTIONFOOLISHNESS.

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I personally think this is 100% wrong.

On May 07 2014 09:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright Austin I feel better about lynching him. Just know that if he flips town you yourself may be in trouble, despite your early Oats push.

He trolled like this in LXI too where he was one of like 8 cops or some shit.
Vayne I really don't want a no-flip right now, can I get you to switch? A foolishness flip will really help us get a better read of basically everyone in the end anyway has the entire game has sort of revolved around him for way too long. Hell that's a good reason to flip him on its own.

Slam switch back pls kthx. I do feel the urge for shenannies but we have a lot of the towniest people on Foolishness right now so at least you can feel good about that.

On May 07 2014 09:15 austinmcc wrote:
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For this exact moment, I don't care if you're going to afk and do very little all game.

But i WOULD like to know what "foolishness has pretty much the same reads as me so I have no reason to lynch him" means.

What are the reads you agree with/disagree with? What ARE foolishness's reads? Do you know them?

Regardless of whether you feel this
I'd still actually like to know why you feel the way you feel about Foolishness. (Also I totally want to take stances on oats, he's not unreadable AT ALL (you can join folks in reading thug life for that, lol))

On May 07 2014 09:26 austinmcc wrote:
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gonna hold off posting more for a moment. People not posting, would be nice of you to donate some to JAT or myself, <3<3

Thug Life was austin keeps ranting that oats is town, oats WOULD have been lynched on like D4 or D5, but got cop checked overnight as town. Mr. Cheesecake in particular was pushing him for the next day and that was the main way he outed himself as mafia. Oats isn't unreadable. I can't claim to know his alignment 100% every game, but I've had a good track record of being correct any time I actually have a strong feeling on him. I dunno that I could teach you how to oatsread like I could teach you how to Dougie, however.



VA, I ... don't like that. Shocker. You're okay with Foolishness because of his reads from the start of D2. Of those 4 reads, 2 guys are dead (and he was 1 and 1), 2 are alive. And he doesn't APPEAR to be scummy on WoS anymore, although he hasn't explicitly said as much (see his posts referencing WoS). You're not at all troubled that "Foolishness's Reads", which you may like, are found at the start of D2, and he's basically put in less effort since then, despite town pushing itself further and further into a good position?

On May 08 2014 13:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Did anyone expect differently?

Too bad there wasn't another martyr.

I have nine left.

Ace and palmar talking about "Who do we want to take to lylo"

If not me, you folks are idiots. By definition you want confirmed town at lylo. Since I know you aren't idiots,

##Vote: Ace

Ask me why.

On May 09 2014 12:59 Tehpoofter wrote:


A pipe dream I'm afraid. Although Ace seems to have small fragments of content today Caller just seems weirder and gumshoe might as well be a deaf mute.

I however like to look at the wider picture we still have almost a full day to look into everyone. Tunneling is a great way to lose a game as town and convince yourself someone that is town is actually mafia ::cough:: Jat and Foolish ::cough:: I think a wide strokes approach is good at this point. Maybe not someone necessarily connected with Marv/prphlz but just in general someone scummy like a number 2 if for whatever reason Marv didn't pan out. I agree that prphlz looks scummy in his posts and is getting town read off one situation that does seem townie. I am slightly scared of Marv becuase he looks focused on finding scum seems like hes read up on things which reads townie to me but I've heard that he is very good. Why should he be reading you town VE you keep saying you're confirmed and shit what makes you so damn town cause honestly I'm not convinced from what you've said in the thread and your posts in the QT that austin has linked look kinda like our small interaction in Catastrophe pm where you kinda acted paranoid and blew me off but wanted to get a couple reads out of me demanding them.

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On May 11 2014 12:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
If I am scum I don't shoot Austin and leave myself alone in a useless qt. I don't shoot the one person hard defending me. Scum CONFIRMED me as town today. Factor that in ladies. Means I could be wrong about Marv for one. Means some other stuff too, but I won't spoil the surprise.

On May 14 2014 12:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Dead game is dead.
Ugh.
So Slam is a more useful player than marv atm? Hm.

Anyway what are the chances we're sitting at 5-3 and MYLO right now as opposed to 6-2? (and actually considering this we may have been at MYLO yesterday too.)

On May 12 2014 02:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
I mean it if wasn't obvious I am the hero role I highly doubt there is any more day vigs so I am a VT for all intents and purposes.

##vote: Gumshoe

On May 17 2014 00:55 marvellosity wrote:

Curse looking at the wrong day and Hapa's votecounts sometimes not having strikethroughs

You brought gumshoe to 5 votes (not majority) on the day Ace was lynched, yes.

So why didn't you agree with the Ace lynch? You were willing for a no-lynch to happen over an Ace lynch for what reason?

On May 22 2014 12:33 austinmcc wrote:
gg duders

VA, in the past you were super against lying as either alignment. I know I haven't really seen you play mafia, but was that a legit feeling before or are you happy to lie as mafia?