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## vote Caller | ||
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Also, no flipping isn't exactly going to be something the Scum team is worried about. It hurts the Town far more. | ||
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Foolishness/Alaka voting you guys voting for snb is sketchy. Palmar just pardoned PrP who was in no danger of actually being lynched. Where does an SNB vote come from? | ||
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On April 27 2014 18:56 prplhz wrote: Who would you lynch over strongandbig? (and why) ##Unvote unvote Palmar. When he asked for Caller to be shot and I said that wouldn't be a good idea because he won't flip he said he didn't care. Pardoning you when you weren't in danger of even dying was also useless. If you're doing anti-town things, and acknowledge it before you do it, and threaten to screw the Town over - you're scum. More to come later. On April 28 2014 00:38 yamato77 wrote: Not thrilled with an snb lynch, try again town. good. There's hope for you yet. ##vote Palmar | ||
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On April 28 2014 05:05 prplhz wrote: durr hurr hurr durr. hurr? durrrrr ##unvote ##vote: prplhz no wait i am pardoned and cannot be lynched today NICE READING THE THREAD MORON This has to go in the Hall of Fame thread of great Caller moments. Jesus fucking christ rofl. @foolishness: You know that meta case is weak :/ On April 28 2014 06:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Also Ace hasn't mentioned NBA or posted gifs Lynch dat guy I think question today honestly comes down to which of the older vets cares the least and we lunch them S ndroba/ace/palmar/caller gogogogo ![[image loading]](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Mddk7CwwhbY/Um9uqiX-OZI/AAAAAAAAOh0/ew3DCcen_vU/s1600/Doc-Rivers.gif) On April 28 2014 08:05 Alakaslam wrote: ##Shoot: Yamato77 Reason: I was out of posts and can post my reason with the shot. I can't change my vote folks and I was already looking at Yam shot. Not playing pro town much at all IMO. good shot imo (I'm joking). so ummm..Palmar lynch people? Stop being pussies. Sack up and lets do this shit. ***serious point: Not voting for SnB. I'm not convinced about Oats but if we need consolidation I'll vote him over SnB. Palmar is my #1 choice. donate 10 posts to VE | ||
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On April 28 2014 12:45 VisceraEyes wrote: Dear Ace: Why is Palmar your number one choice? Is it a thing where you're suspicious of prplhz and prplhz pardoned Palmar? Because if it is, I think that's kinda weaksauce. Where am /I/ in your lynch list because your buddy SnB wants to lynch me rul bad. Can we be friends this game? Check one: O ---- Yes O ---- No It was Palmar who pardoned prp. Palmar is my number 1 because he wanted to hold the town hostage (lol) and wanted to shoot Caller instead of lynching him. If Caller is Town denying his flip while still leaving a lynch open is a major win for scum. Palmar's reaction was overboard. With Caller's nuke actually being a fake Palmar should be getting much more heat. Before this game is over WE WILL FIGHT TO THE DEATH! Only one of us can survive (likely, we'll both be dead). On April 28 2014 12:46 Foolishness wrote: As everyone's agreed, what Caller did is not alignment indicative for him. I don't think anyone has brought up an argument about which way Caller is tending to lean that actually has some non-neutral basis to it. Anything said basically boils down to, "eh I think he's town just a feeling" or "eh I think he might be scum just a feeling". Really there's very little to be said about him (and yes this is a problem and he's going to prove his town to us or get shot). Now Ace, what mindset would Palmar have to be in to do what he did? Obviously he was pretty open about it in his posts: he saw he was getting nuked, immediately believed it and used his ability cause why the fuck not? If you just found out you only get to play a mafia game for 24 hours you'd probably be pissed and do the same thing right? This isn't what's solely triggering me though. Palmar using his power before dying doesn't sway me towards his alignment. My point is based on him not wanting to lynch Caller, but hold the Town hostage if Caller isn't shot. I don't think a mafia would be in the same mindset if they found out they were about to die 24 hours into day 1. I'd expect them to be more calm about it since they have a team to support them (of course this would depend on the person in question). Furthermore, as I'm sure you are well aware, if Palmar was mafia and wanted to hurt the town he could have done way worse than what he did. Going yolo and pardoning someone who has 3 votes doesn't hurt anyone (regardless of what prphlz alignment is). What could he have done instead? Posted like he was a town and provide as much insight as possible, pardon whoever the most town-agreed person in the game is and convince all of us to mislynch Caller (assuming Caller is town of course). It probably would have worked, and as I said above I don't think there's anyone in this game right now who would be opposed to Caller dying (though he might not be the best lynch). Maybe this is all a bit convoluted and too wifomy, but Palmar reminds me of Annul when RoL faked day-vigi shot him (who was also town). The emotional state makes more sense. I won't deny that what Palmar did was "anti-town" but I hardly think that Palmar is pushing an agenda here. @1st bolded: This doesn't invalidate him being scum. Palmar might have been able to do worse but speculating on him doing so doesn't offset what he originally did. Just because it isn't the absolute worst doesn't mean it isn't scummy. While Palmar could have "posted like he's town and give insight" he didn't, and we should be going off of what he did do and not speculate on what he could have done. Excusing his behavior because of an actions he didn't take that could have done more damage doesn't make sense. @2nd bolded: I agree with this to a degree. I don't think there was some kind of master plan to it at all. Just a convenient effort to deny a flip and lynch the guy nuking you. If Palmar is scum here remember he doesn't flip on death anyway so him wanting his accuser shot and not flipping works out to his advantage anyway. | ||
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On April 28 2014 13:12 VisceraEyes wrote: But that's not true - you have to factor in that he could have /really/ fucked over town by denying them a lynch entirely. You HAVE to factor that in because he DID not do that and he COULD have done that. And you KNOW that he's a player that would have known that. It is true. Saying someone must be Town because they didn't do something that scum might have done doesn't hold up logically. If he denies the Town a lynch, he dies and the person being lynched just gets shot the next day with all the day KP we have. In this format, denying a lynch early in the game isn't going to "really over the town". | ||
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Let's lynch Palmar! | ||
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I sense a pattern here. WoS what's up? | ||
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On April 29 2014 12:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Wish I could vigi. Dunno. Probs someone on my earlier list? I think Slam is #1 I only asked you that so you could waste some more posts. By tomorrow you will be begging me to donate you some. Your balls are in my pickle jar. *takes crisp pull from cigar* | ||
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No clue what Alakaslam was referring to. Cephiro giving me mad good hippie vybzez. poofter too. Koshi is boss as always. | ||
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 Give me an update on what I need to know, I'll be back tonight | ||
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On May 06 2014 04:38 Alakaslam wrote: That is correct. I think Ace or palmar are scum, but not both. So my vote is on one of them As far as why, I restate: Ace made a statement as if I had made a scumslip because I stated that my shot on Yamato was a mistake (does anyone doubt that? Really?) He even had an attitude that seems like he was laughing as he wrote it because it was all so convenient how I set myself up for mislynch. Immediately a few folks glomed onto it in a way I found scummy, but not as scummy as the initial pointing out because of blatant "Hey look, vet- let's sheep" mentality. But that is OMGUS I guess lol what? When did this happen? | ||
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On May 06 2014 10:18 austinmcc wrote: In addition to Foolishness? As opposed to Foolishness? Correct me if I'm way off here but is there any reason Foolishness is Scum that has anything to do with not being related to a QT? I've skimmed this thread and that's one of the dumbest reasons to lynch someone ever. BH was scum, so Foolishness was in a QT with him = Foolishness scum? | ||
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Damn, look at that. This clearly illustrates a "statement made as if you scum slipped" and you could even see me laughing when I wrote it. Even got people to sheep it without ever following up on it. Pro. | ||
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On May 06 2014 10:39 prplhz wrote: ace will come in here and say that there is literally not a single thing pointing at fool being mafia ![[image loading]](http://www.yardbarker.com/media/f/b/fb30b9aec33a41c8d4cddf3f9f515f3189d34237/xl/89119853.jpg) | ||
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Oats point is somewhat convincing if true. Going through past games of everyone else except the guy who is Scum, that's tangible. Foolishness has essentially pushed SnB, prplhz (ish), oats, RebirthOfLegend, very very very likely Cephiro, and pretty likely JAT. Dangerous thinking here. Has he pushed these people for lynching, or just accused them of being Scum? When you say push, I assume you know what it means - actually trying to get wagons rolling on them. If this isn't the case, then this point doesn't hold water. Granted I think it was the first mislynch on him evah, but in Shadow Game Foolishness was ... pretty defensive. When folks turned their gaze on him hard, he was making cases, reading a bunch of past games of half the game, trying actively to solve things. Here, there's been mid-level scumspicion on him the whole time and he's done...not much/any of that, again, really 0 interest in trying to round people up and lead town really. Useless. What he did another game means absolute shit. (This is the real reason you should be lynching Foolishness - looking at past games to drum up cases on people. Oh well.) Kinda just never ever PUSHING his reads. So what, doesn't make him scum. He's willing to consolidate on anyone D2, rather than actively trying to get any support for RoL. On D3 he drops one post on BH/Slam, and then there's nothing else. Good! This is more like it. That's scummy. Although it contradicts what you said earlier (he can't be pushing reads and not trying to gather support on RoL) the bolded is possibly scum behavior. Note trying to consolidate on a lynch in a majority rules setup is something anyone with a brain on either alignment will do in a game with day killing roles. Those are my reasons. JAT has also posted a couple things that I hadn't been looking at, a couple inconsistencies in his posting, like saying he wasn't going to claim QT stuff until the traitor died --> BH dies, flips traitor --> I'm not claiming QT stuff. Good point. Did he post why he changed his stance? Town doesn't need to know everything, but if he said he would before and flipped he should have given a reason. | ||
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On May 06 2014 20:24 Palmar wrote: Yes! When I flip scum, totally lynch Ace. rofl when you free to play Dota? I just started and I'm rank 5. Pubs just useless I need sensible people to play with. ## vote palmar | ||
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hammer?!???? Caller where you at? | ||
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On May 07 2014 17:49 Palmar wrote: Ace, I'm looking forward to lylo. Who do you think we should take with us, and which one of us do you think is mafia? Definitely not Caller or Alakaslam in LYLO. I think you, Caller and someone else I can't remember right now are scummy. | ||
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Lynch Caller yo. | ||
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On May 09 2014 01:33 justanothertownie wrote: Ace, you have ~30 hours to do towny stuff. yall dont wanna lynch Caller? pffft btw what is "towny" stuff? | ||
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I'm just meh on Palmar right now, especially after he told me about the Steam group for Dota 2. He gets a pass from me. | ||
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Besides, I'm still not fully over Day 1 shenanigans. | ||
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Coroner would flip the guys that got shot, giving us intel on the shooters too. The mass claim would benefit us as we'd have role and alignment information. With ?? on yamato and Koshi, Coroner solves them. re: scummy motive for pushing claim - again. Imagine we all claimed right now. With two dead players we have no idea about who is the only one who knows their alignments for sure, and thus have a great guess to the motivations of the shooters? Mass claim completes the picture for Scum, it doesn't help Town at all. | ||
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us = Town obviously. Nice try. | ||
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The third isn't. On May 09 2014 11:11 austinmcc wrote: A massclaim doesn't matter for that though, Ace. All we need is a coroner to say "They were this alignment, I am coroner." Also, how does...knowing the alignments of the no-flip players help mafia? They know who the traitor is. They know who the mafia is. By process of elimination, they can pretty damn near guess 100% of the townies. They already know everything, unless Koshi/Yamato had specific roles, and if they DID have roles, who cares, scum don't care, they're dead. It's entirely the opposite. Mass claim (or really, just a coroner saying the alignments) reveals information to TOWN. Scum knows the alignments on those guys, town doesn't. You cray. Never said knowing the alignment of no-flip players helps Scum. Only knowing their roles does. If we were going to mass claim knowing roles that existed in the game helps fake claims. And yes - Mass Claim helps Town with a Coroner available like I said before: On May 09 2014 04:33 Ace wrote: Caller should know better than to ask for massclaim in this setup without any Coroner reveals. Mass claim accomplishes nothing right now except give Scum easier night kill choices. Caller didn't think of this. | ||
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Kaboom brahs! WoS saying marv more town than Austin is fishy because he would have to forget or willingly sheep his vote to someone with no cares given for this to happen. Why Wos is sheeping marv so easily? Because Wos is houze servant. Caller is Caller. Okz. Pro. VE is catching heat because...no idea. Apparently his behavior in the QT wasn't good enough :'( Now that I've laid out how shit looks the last 20 pages we're gonna vote the way I say we vote. You guys are bullshitting. ##vote marv for making the game boring and talking nonsense. GTFO. | ||
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On May 09 2014 20:44 marvellosity wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Ace ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/o4Zw4.gif) | ||
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On May 10 2014 05:17 marvellosity wrote: jat, stfu if you won't just fucking shoot Ace. Christ. seriously. Shit is making me sad too. | ||
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On May 10 2014 19:12 marvellosity wrote: I was voting Ace, you scrub. ![[image loading]](http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/3817320/doc-holliday-wink-o.gif) | ||
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On May 16 2014 11:59 Hapahauli wrote: Night 7: Gumshoe (Mafia Day Vigilante) has been lynched! Night ends in . ![[image loading]](http://cdn.niketalk.com/8/80/80cd6984_iymn3a.gif) | ||
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On May 22 2014 16:26 Hapahauli wrote: On Day 6, this was the votecount that got Ace lynched. Had gumshoe unvoted/shot someone at the last minute on Day 6, mafia would have mathematically won the game. ![[image loading]](http://www.the-mainboard.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/grinch.gif) | ||
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I threw 2 votes away and didn't even bother to stop both Town mislynches like Ver said, but no one caught on. I didn't sweat prp's comment because Caller and Alakslam's actions weren't the same. Would have been a pointless argument too. Good write up though. I'm guessing the same reasoning Ver used is how BH guessed 3 of us on Day 1. | ||
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On May 22 2014 22:47 Palmar wrote: Hey I caught on! ![[image loading]](http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n148/RadiantSilvergun/gifs/Sunglasses_shock.gif) | ||
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