You Only Shoot Once Mafia

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Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 24 2014 02:51 GMT

#93

should recruit that Thingyman guy so he could kill 6 townies and get an award as "best town player"

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 26 2014 11:40 GMT

#159

You guys believing Caller's nuke is real? :/

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 26 2014 11:44 GMT

#161

Good luck with that idea.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 26 2014 11:51 GMT

#162

Palmar, wouldn't make more sense for us to lynch Caller, not shoot him?

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 26 2014 15:00 GMT

#172

@prp/Wos: I didn't read the entire OP. I thought the nuke was fake because Caller would do this, and not give any explanation (see: WaW mafia). America is the only nuke powered role listed in the OP so Caller's nuke is legit. Barring some new information Caller is the lynch for today.

## vote Caller

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 26 2014 15:06 GMT

#173

@Oats: Caller wouldn't be trading himself 1 for 1 if he thinks he can get away with it. Caller firing off a nuke fits right in with his behavior of doing random dumb shit. Problem is he can do this as any alignment, and would more than likely get away with it too.

Also, no flipping isn't exactly going to be something the Scum team is worried about. It hurts the Town far more.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 26 2014 15:14 GMT

#175

I can't say much about Caller's thought process with regards to myself/foolishness being in this game. I guess you've never seen him play but the basics of it is nobody is going to deter him from doing as he wants. He'll just disappear and not give an explanation for his actions.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 27 2014 03:28 GMT

#290

HB Palmar.

Foolishness/Alaka voting you guys voting for snb is sketchy. Palmar just pardoned PrP who was in no danger of actually being lynched. Where does an SNB vote come from?

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 27 2014 09:39 GMT

#312

snb wagon o.0

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 27 2014 17:18 GMT

#351

On April 27 2014 18:56 prplhz wrote:

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Who would you lynch over strongandbig? (and why)

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unvote

Palmar. When he asked for Caller to be shot and I said that wouldn't be a good idea because he won't flip he said he didn't care. Pardoning you when you weren't in danger of even dying was also useless. If you're doing anti-town things, and acknowledge it before you do it, and threaten to screw the Town over - you're scum.

More to come later.

On April 28 2014 00:38 yamato77 wrote:
Not thrilled with an snb lynch, try again town.

good. There's hope for you yet.

##vote Palmar

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 28 2014 03:32 GMT

#537

On April 28 2014 05:05 prplhz wrote:

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durr hurr hurr durr. hurr? durrrrr

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##vote: prplhz

no wait i am pardoned and cannot be lynched today NICE READING THE THREAD MORON

This has to go in the Hall of Fame thread of great Caller moments. Jesus fucking christ rofl.

@foolishness: You know that meta case is weak :/

On April 28 2014 06:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also Ace hasn't mentioned NBA or posted gifs
Lynch dat guy

I think question today honestly comes down to which of the older vets cares the least and we lunch them
S ndroba/ace/palmar/caller gogogogo

On April 28 2014 08:05 Alakaslam wrote:
##Shoot: Yamato77

Reason: I was out of posts and can post my reason with the shot. I can't change my vote folks and I was already looking at Yam shot. Not playing pro town much at all IMO.

good shot imo (I'm joking).

so ummm..Palmar lynch people? Stop being pussies. Sack up and lets do this shit.

***serious point: Not voting for SnB. I'm not convinced about Oats but if we need consolidation I'll vote him over SnB. Palmar is my #1 choice.

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Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 28 2014 03:35 GMT

#539

explain

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 28 2014 04:08 GMT

#577

On April 28 2014 12:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Dear Ace: Why is Palmar your number one choice? Is it a thing where you're suspicious of prplhz and prplhz pardoned Palmar? Because if it is, I think that's kinda weaksauce. Where am /I/ in your lynch list because your buddy SnB wants to lynch me rul bad. Can we be friends this game? Check one: O ---- Yes O ---- No

It was Palmar who pardoned prp. Palmar is my number 1 because he wanted to hold the town hostage (lol) and wanted to shoot Caller instead of lynching him. If Caller is Town denying his flip while still leaving a lynch open is a major win for scum. Palmar's reaction was overboard. With Caller's nuke actually being a fake Palmar should be getting much more heat.

Before this game is over WE WILL FIGHT TO THE DEATH! Only one of us can survive (likely, we'll both be dead).

On April 28 2014 12:46 Foolishness wrote:

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As everyone's agreed, what Caller did is not alignment indicative for him. I don't think anyone has brought up an argument about which way Caller is tending to lean that actually has some non-neutral basis to it. Anything said basically boils down to, "eh I think he's town just a feeling" or "eh I think he might be scum just a feeling". Really there's very little to be said about him (and yes this is a problem and he's going to prove his town to us or get shot).

Now Ace, what mindset would Palmar have to be in to do what he did? Obviously he was pretty open about it in his posts: he saw he was getting nuked, immediately believed it and used his ability cause why the fuck not? If you just found out you only get to play a mafia game for 24 hours you'd probably be pissed and do the same thing right?

This isn't what's solely triggering me though. Palmar using his power before dying doesn't sway me towards his alignment. My point is based on him not wanting to lynch Caller, but hold the Town hostage if Caller isn't shot.

I don't think a mafia would be in the same mindset if they found out they were about to die 24 hours into day 1. I'd expect them to be more calm about it since they have a team to support them (of course this would depend on the person in question). Furthermore, as I'm sure you are well aware, if Palmar was mafia and wanted to hurt the town he could have done way worse than what he did. Going yolo and pardoning someone who has 3 votes doesn't hurt anyone (regardless of what prphlz alignment is). What could he have done instead? Posted like he was a town and provide as much insight as possible, pardon whoever the most town-agreed person in the game is and convince all of us to mislynch Caller (assuming Caller is town of course). It probably would have worked, and as I said above I don't think there's anyone in this game right now who would be opposed to Caller dying (though he might not be the best lynch).

Maybe this is all a bit convoluted and too wifomy, but Palmar reminds me of Annul when RoL faked day-vigi shot him (who was also town). The emotional state makes more sense. I won't deny that what Palmar did was "anti-town" but I hardly think that Palmar is pushing an agenda here.

@1st bolded: This doesn't invalidate him being scum. Palmar might have been able to do worse but speculating on him doing so doesn't offset what he originally did. Just because it isn't the absolute worst doesn't mean it isn't scummy. While Palmar could have "posted like he's town and give insight" he didn't, and we should be going off of what he did do and not speculate on what he could have done. Excusing his behavior because of an actions he didn't take that could have done more damage doesn't make sense.

@2nd bolded: I agree with this to a degree. I don't think there was some kind of master plan to it at all. Just a convenient effort to deny a flip and lynch the guy nuking you. If Palmar is scum here remember he doesn't flip on death anyway so him wanting his accuser shot and not flipping works out to his advantage anyway.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 28 2014 04:20 GMT

#582

On April 28 2014 13:12 VisceraEyes wrote:

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On April 28 2014 13:08 Ace wrote:

On April 28 2014 12:46 Foolishness wrote:

On April 28 2014 12:35 Ace wrote:
explain

But that's not true - you have to factor in that he could have /really/ fucked over town by denying them a lynch entirely. You HAVE to factor that in because he DID not do that and he COULD have done that. And you KNOW that he's a player that would have known that.

It is true. Saying someone must be Town because they didn't do something that scum might have done doesn't hold up logically.

If he denies the Town a lynch, he dies and the person being lynched just gets shot the next day with all the day KP we have. In this format, denying a lynch early in the game isn't going to "really over the town".

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 28 2014 04:37 GMT

#584

No, I don't think prp is scum because of what Palmar did. I'm not tying Palmar to prp. I don't view him making prp unlynchable as an associative tell because I don't think it really matters who he chose as long as they weren't going to be lynched. In this format and this early in the game it doesn't really move the needle by itself.