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On May 09 2014 09:40 marvellosity wrote:
also poofter, dunno what drugs you're smoking but prplhz was mega town. He had opinions and pushed stuff and said stuff. That alone makes prp 99% town. You should check out his scumgames.
The good kind of course. The part that stuck out to me was his push on Foolishness the day that Ceph came out. I just can't understand how that is townie. Austin seemed to think so too so maybe I'm just missing it but he seemed to not care at all like he already knew the info. Can you explain why that push was townie? He also was tunneling Foolish the day Oats got lynched. Thats my hold up with him/you because your posts have all seemed townie but he was off to me. I haven't seen his or your scum games though so I can speak to neither and people talk about you being really good so if he was playing bad scum you could be playing good scum.
Also What do you make of Ace's interaction with Palmer? and Caller's "everyone mass claim"? I wish we could shoot both of them tbh. I feel like Ace is trying to buddy Palmer after pushing him for days and Caller says not a lot for the whole game then says "hey can a bunch of roles out that would be nice"
Can some of the quite people please seem town you can't all be scum? Thanks
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@Marv I see what you mean about the prphlz thing. Although the fact BH was traitor is the only worrisome part. If he wasn't recruited and scumprphlz doesn't know which side will end up town so he says that initially and then just goes on whoever has the most vote and hopes it the town and not the traitor. Idk I'm not really thinking you're a target for today but I just want it out there for later days if we have to make harder decisions than "which of these scummy people is most scummy?" which is what it feels like to me today.
@austin so the thing on VE that is hard for those of us not in the QT is that is all we have to go off whats posted in the thread. Can you maybe read Ve's filter from just in game and tell me what part makes him town? Like look at it from an outside perspective. I realize I'm using some of the QT stuff and its kinda compounding/confirming what I'm reading in thread maybe I just have confirmation bias. I'll do the same and see where I end up.
@Slam I realize this could easily be wasted but please save this in case we need to do some vote changes or what have you. ##Donate: 2 posts to Alakaslam
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Oh wow thread like exploded while I was working/typing that out.
@ Austin so we get you like VE is town who is the better lynch today?
@VA Ve's alignment is really important if he is scum he has connections to people his pushes on Caller/Palmer day 1 as well as his involvement in the QT. I think someone like Caller/Ace are better shots Ace has like a small connection to Palmer for pushing him for 4 days and then suddenly he has Dota so they're friends. I will say his posting today has seemed for the first time all game townie.
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@austin I posted it in one of other posts but can you link me to some of the townie posts you have for VE that are from the thread and not the QT. I feel like a lot of your argument is from things happening in the QT and not things in the thread.
@VE So who else is with marv/prphlz? Which of the lurkers do you find the most scummy?
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On May 09 2014 12:50 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2014 12:08 Tehpoofter wrote:
@austin I posted it in one of other posts but can you link me to some of the townie posts you have for VE that are from the thread and not the QT. I feel like a lot of your argument is from things happening in the QT and not things in the thread.
@VE So who else is with marv/prphlz? Which of the lurkers do you find the most scummy?
6 posts 2 given Poof I don't care. Right now we need to lynch marv/prplhz because he's literally claiming scum by going after me so hard right now. I'm like confirmed town, he's a jackass if he's town. And he's not a jackass, marv is easily one of the best town players I know. And he's wrong about me. PAY NO MIND to the fact that he's prplhz and prplhz is one of the scummiest players in the thread, marv is the best lynch today by far. I'll discuss lurkers when marv dies. Maybe by then they won't be lurkers anymore eh?
A pipe dream I'm afraid. Although Ace seems to have small fragments of content today Caller just seems weirder and gumshoe might as well be a deaf mute.
I however like to look at the wider picture we still have almost a full day to look into everyone. Tunneling is a great way to lose a game as town and convince yourself someone that is town is actually mafia ::cough:: Jat and Foolish ::cough:: I think a wide strokes approach is good at this point. Maybe not someone necessarily connected with Marv/prphlz but just in general someone scummy like a number 2 if for whatever reason Marv didn't pan out. I agree that prphlz looks scummy in his posts and is getting town read off one situation that does seem townie. I am slightly scared of Marv becuase he looks focused on finding scum seems like hes read up on things which reads townie to me but I've heard that he is very good. Why should he be reading you town VE you keep saying you're confirmed and shit what makes you so damn town cause honestly I'm not convinced from what you've said in the thread and your posts in the QT that austin has linked look kinda like our small interaction in Catastrophe pm where you kinda acted paranoid and blew me off but wanted to get a couple reads out of me demanding them.
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On May 09 2014 13:04 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2014 12:59 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 09 2014 12:50 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 09 2014 12:08 Tehpoofter wrote:
@austin I posted it in one of other posts but can you link me to some of the townie posts you have for VE that are from the thread and not the QT. I feel like a lot of your argument is from things happening in the QT and not things in the thread.
@VE So who else is with marv/prphlz? Which of the lurkers do you find the most scummy?
6 posts 2 given Poof I don't care. Right now we need to lynch marv/prplhz because he's literally claiming scum by going after me so hard right now. I'm like confirmed town, he's a jackass if he's town. And he's not a jackass, marv is easily one of the best town players I know. And he's wrong about me. PAY NO MIND to the fact that he's prplhz and prplhz is one of the scummiest players in the thread, marv is the best lynch today by far. I'll discuss lurkers when marv dies. Maybe by then they won't be lurkers anymore eh? A pipe dream I'm afraid. Although Ace seems to have small fragments of content today Caller just seems weirder and gumshoe might as well be a deaf mute. I however like to look at the wider picture we still have almost a full day to look into everyone. Tunneling is a great way to lose a game as town and convince yourself someone that is town is actually mafia ::cough:: Jat and Foolish ::cough:: I think a wide strokes approach is good at this point. Maybe not someone necessarily connected with Marv/prphlz but just in general someone scummy like a number 2 if for whatever reason Marv didn't pan out. I agree that prphlz looks scummy in his posts and is getting town read off one situation that does seem townie. I am slightly scared of Marv becuase he looks focused on finding scum seems like hes read up on things which reads townie to me but I've heard that he is very good. Why should he be reading you town VE you keep saying you're confirmed and shit what makes you so damn town cause honestly I'm not convinced from what you've said in the thread and your posts in the QT that austin has linked look kinda like our small interaction in Catastrophe pm where you kinda acted paranoid and blew me off but wanted to get a couple reads out of me demanding them. 7 posts 2 given In Catastrophe I was a traitor. I had no inside knowledge of the scumteam, and had no say over the kills. Comparing that game and this game, you'd have to factor that in and understand that it makes me town in this game. I had a TOWNIE perspective in Catastrophe. Look at BH, his first instinct in the game, as traitor, was to form a town circle. The exact same response he'd have as if he were a townie. The difference of course is that the traitor could be recruited in this game and not in Catastrophe, but for the sake of argument BH played this game with a townie perspective too. Trust me dude. Don't believe what you hear. This is my town-play. I get "I'm not impressed" literally /all/ the time. You're not hurting my feelings bro.
@VE So you're saying that as traitor you actually want to play more townie? I really don't understand this logic I mean yes you want to appear town and work the game out but my question is why the town circle thing as traitor? Like for your own benefit? What makes Marv the correct lynch today? I mean aside from he is reading you wrong what if he is just reading you wrong?
@Austin thanks for pointing that out after rereading it I can see that as being more townie of him to do my only issue is that was day 1/night 1 since then I haven't seem the same gusto just a whole bunch of "I'm town I'm town marv misreads me as mafia" I need to reread tomorrow on this.
@Palmer I'm surprised this is the first time you've called me scum today I thought after yesterday it was super clear that I was the lynch (supposedly based on Foolishness' flip but I think you stated town or mafia I was still mafia). What took you so long to call me mafia today?
@marv what made you change your mind on me? Is it because I said I thought you might be scummy based on your predecessor? Like aren't you above that kind of "this guy called me mafia so he is mafia" level of play? What do you think that the moment you call me not town Palmer hops up to agree with you?
@Jat where you at man? What do you think about hte VE/Marv/WoS thing going on, I feel like there is at least one mafia in there (probably not WoS) or a scum team of like some combination of Ace/Caller/VA/gum is just sitting back and laughing today and coasting to an easy victory.
With that point in mind I'd like to hear from VE/Marv/WoS who should Jat shoot today? Should he shoot? I'll go first. I think Caller is my preferred shot because of his lack of interest in the game/ability to figure it out. Ace being a close second because of the way he has interacted with Palmer in that He is scum he is scum he is scum then nvm he gave me Dota shit he must be town. Gumshoe would be a kill you make instead of the mod at this point.
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On May 09 2014 19:07 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2014 18:48 Tehpoofter wrote:
With that point in mind I'd like to hear from VE/Marv/WoS who should Jat shoot today? Should he shoot? I'll go first. I think Caller is my preferred shot because of his lack of interest in the game/ability to figure it out. Ace being a close second because of the way he has interacted with Palmer in that He is scum he is scum he is scum then nvm he gave me Dota shit he must be town. Gumshoe would be a kill you make instead of the mod at this point.
I have stated repeatedly and firmly, with reasoning, who jat should be shooting, so the fact you're asking me this question is, again, ridiculous.
Your reads may have changed so just curious where you stood. Lots of people have talked since then and made more connections I think if your read stayd in the same place all day it would be ridiculous especially with a decent amount of discussion today. I will say you do seem more invested in the game than prphlz was. If you argument that prphlz would be too much of a wuss as mafia to not play the game like that its fine if others can corroborate it. Player replacing is super fucked up for me because it never happens in video mafia ever so it makes me really paranoid when my read switches on someone its because of the player.
@JaT I agree that austin is clearly still town hero here he is way too passionate about what he thinks and clearly doesn't care about how it makes him look. I feel like on WoS if he was mafia he wouldn't be putting in the kind of effort he did starting day 2/3 he would have been doing it from the beginning. He seemed honestly uninterested the only reason I see this being the case is if he thought his mafia team was going to get steamrolled which is hard to imagine with lots of good players in this game. So I actually think its a really good reason to town read someone. I think of VE/Marv/WoS ... WoS is the least likely to be mafia.
I'm headed to bed leave your questions for me if you have them and pray lurkers figure out how to use their keyboards.
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On May 09 2014 23:24 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2014 18:48 Tehpoofter wrote:
@VE So you're saying that as traitor you actually want to play more townie? I really don't understand this logic I mean yes you want to appear town and work the game out but my question is why the town circle thing as traitor? Like for your own benefit? What makes Marv the correct lynch today? I mean aside from he is reading you wrong what if he is just reading you wrong?
No, I'm saying my viewpoint was that of a townie. Obviously I was /playing/ with the objective of winning for scum, but the way I saw the game in that game as compared with this game would be that of either a townie or traitor. And BH flipped traitor, so unless you think I'm a second traitor then I can only be townie playing with no information and no influence over night-kills. Apples to apples style. The town-circle thing as traitor A) makes him look really townie if they work things out and B) allowed BH to scan for potential teammates. My point was that a few games ago BH was a similarly a recruiting mason thingy and played in a similar way to the way he played this game, a game where he was aligned with scum and had similar powers to when he was aligned with town. Tell me everything you think about marv/prplhz and then vote for him plz because he's the lynch today.
I understand the traitor thing a bit more now but its not really relevant as we need to get a lynch for some reason I thought it was tomorrow.
So Prphlz to me seemed scummy I asked marv when he first joined to address some posts (I can look it up but its in mine and his filter and I want to get my thoughts out since we don't have a lot of time) He did answer them fairly well it seemed townie. Prphlz to me seemed mafia and Marv seemed more town until he made a couple of derogatory posts at the end. like his one that says "nice" and the whole list of town thing.
This post: On May 10 2014 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
marv definitely the best lynch.
Then you can also lynch my scumbuddies VE and Ace.
List of Clever Townies you should Listen to when I Die:
If Marv flips scum I'd say almost 80% chance one of those is actually mafia probably Ace. I do that shit all the time as scum. Like make a frustrated post when you're going down to try to WiFOM a partner. I don't think this comes from a townie perspective.
@WoS/Austin Why is lurkshoe better than Marv today? I mean in my head its something the mod will take care of for us. Unlike Ace and Caller who are still question marks I think good shot JAT Gumshoe might just get replaced or mod killed. Seems like a waste of a lynch.
For me town is Austin/Jat/WoS/VE/Palmer
^^Probably 1 in there is scum just cause otherwise its all lurkers
Scum:Hopefulyl Caller/Ace/VA/gum (maybe he will get mod killed?)
Marv for me was looking town with his entrance but I really feel like the Vote he did on VE kinda saying he was scum for calling him scum + the WiFOM action of VE/ACE I quoted don't seem townie to me. I already suspected Prphlz this replacement shit is pretty lame. I don't like Marv saying prphlz isn't capable of making that kind of play as scum like he is putting him down or something. I have a feeling most of the people in this game are capable of making a number of plays as either alignment and the fact he is using it to defend himself doesn't sit right to me, Can anyone else back up Marv's claim about prphlz?
##Vote:: Marvellosity
I'm around until end of cycle.
@Marv Why are we making a mistake voting you over x? And who is X? I know you have given your reads before and I know you think its VE/Ace but which one is better/more likely to be scum? Do you think Jat's shot hit? I might be repeating questions but I think its a good idea to get people's ideas of what is going on.
##Donate: 3 posts to Marvellosity I think Jat said you were running low please don't waste them on things like your "nice" post.
@VA why am I a better lynch than Marv/Gum other wagons? If you knew I was town where would your vote be tonight?
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@Jat what do you think of Palmer and Ace's play today? I have to think they're doing something weird the only real unease I have about the Marv lynch is that they're both on it. Do you think there is a mafia in there between Palmer and Ace if so who? Also I don't see your vote on the vote count list... have you voted? What do you make of WoS/Austin sitting on the modkillable gumshoe instead of someone actually playing like this is my town people in austin and WoS so I don't think its a scummy thing I just think its the wrong play.
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On May 10 2014 09:41 justanothertownie wrote:I agree that gumshoe is not the lynch. I really hope he just gets modkilled. Yeah, marv is running out of posts if I counted it correctly he was 2 posts over his limit before you donated so he should have 1 left now. You can count yourself if you look into his filter (3 posts were made in the night). If you want to verify his prplhz read yourself go here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database#2Open the prplhz spoiler and you see all his games on this site. Click on them to get to his filter there. Austin, gumshoe might be modkilled. Lynch could be a waste. Fancy a switch to Ace maybe?
I'll read this on lunch be back in about 45 minutes to an hour I'll have my phone on and try to check in while I'm eating.
I agree gum might be modkilled this is an oddity. Funny you said Ace I think today is the first day I thought he might actually be town as he seemed to start trying and caring. The weird thing with him is his interaction with Palmer recently has seemed.. off. I can't really explain it.
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On May 10 2014 10:02 Palmar wrote:
His 12 hours to do something bit was never going to end up with him changing his mind on confirmed town koshi. It was awful play and he should've known it.
We lynch poofter.
So you disagree with a shot I took what 3 days ago. Have I done anything scummy since then? If so what? Why myself over marv/ace/gum?
I find it really really weird you said "not marv today" what is that about? Like why not yet when is the right time?
@WoS can you tell me again why you don't agree with the Marv lynch? I would feel comfortable on him ace/gum. I liked what VE had to say today so he has moved up to my town Ace also today for the first time looks town. Marv for me started very town but I didn't like what he did at the end of the day and VE is seeming super town to me and he seems convinced on this marv lynch. We need to lynch so I'm willing to move around but I think me VE are right here.
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On May 10 2014 11:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, what? What's happening right now is unacceptable...
I think we might be right on 1 or 2 of the wagons and scum is going for a ML we need to consolidate. I'm down for Marv/Ace. Not lynching would be no good.
Austin is drunk people afk. We're fucked. I've never seen a no lynch before in forums.
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On May 10 2014 11:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Oh come on people. Fine if we consolidate this way - do it!
##Unvote
##Vote: gumshoe
NOW SWITCH.
##Vote: Gumshoe
Doing god's work here boys.... I mean mods work. I still think Marv is a better lynch.
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On May 10 2014 11:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Gumshoe is gonna be modkilled so in theory I'd switch to anyone but marv but I don't think it matters.
We're NO-FLIPPIN TONIGHT BOYOS
I think marv was the right lynch and the scum just bought a misslynch well played scum. We kill marv tomorrow.
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Well the only good that came out of today is we know Gum/Marv are the next two lynches hopefully we got it right on Caller or we might already be done boys.
Those last second CFD's are intense and getting a no lynch feels like I got left cold and dry. Off work probably going to drink and play video mafia to cool my sorrows. I don't understand how the Marv lynch was so hard. I'm rescinding my town read on Palmer for the bullshit he pulled not even voting a lynch candidate.
Scum team: Marv/Gum/Palmer/Ace <<<<<<<there is 3 in there almost always.
This is my favorite austin btw:+ Show Spoiler +On May 10 2014 12:22 austinmcc wrote:
Nobody rwety town wi. wr wib. Fuckbscum we win all is well. Marc actually scmy will try lake real post when can type but sang lynxg for today. Gumshie was lynch today Sry gumshie, but when you afk you come back whenever, not just hour befoeblynxgn.
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On May 10 2014 17:24 Alakaslam wrote:
Nobody gave me a post and I was here the whole time to consolidate.
-_-
Well. I am not sure it would even have mattered.
I am headed to the smash forum, I need to thank someone...
I was wondering I thought I counted that I gave you enough for a vote switch but apparentely I'm shitty at math I also assumed you'd just say fuck it and switch with just a vote.
@JaT why do you automatically assume your shot on Caller was bad?
@austin I assume you're more sober now so ##Donate: 2 posts to Austin I'm gonna be playing poker all night so I won't even be around after about an hour.
I think the lynch tomorrow is Gum/Marv order is irrelevant that was scum purposedly not wanting a lynch through on two buddies I imagine. Palmer fucking off and voting Ace and not consolidating is really really sketchy he is out of the town. WoS got moved out of town for not voting on Marv yesterday although he was on gumshoe if I was partners with Marv I'd move on gumshoe too and try to protect him and I believe that Marv and gum are scum 80% of the time +.
Town: Tehpoofter Slam Austin Jat VE
Questions: WoS Palmer VA
Mafia: Marv Gum Ace
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Fuck not bolding but w.e. ##Donate: 2 posts to Austinmcc I'm probably not going to be around to use posts anyways except phone posting or something.
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On May 12 2014 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2014 07:41 Tehpoofter wrote:
I think the lynch tomorrow is Gum/Marv order is irrelevant that was scum purposedly not wanting a lynch through on two buddies I imagine. Palmer fucking off and voting Ace and not consolidating is really really sketchy he is out of the town. WoS got moved out of town for not voting on Marv yesterday although he was on gumshoe if I was partners with Marv I'd move on gumshoe too and try to protect him and I believe that Marv and gum are scum 80% of the time +.
Town: Tehpoofter Slam Austin Jat VE
Questions: WoS Palmer VA
Mafia: Marv Gum Ace So, first of all your scumteam makes no sense. Marv is most definitely not scum with Ace. He bullied me really hard to shoot Ace so as long as he wasn't 100 % convinced I am fakeclaiming this means they are not on the same scumteam. He wouldn't even get any towncred for it due to the noflip.
Why is WoS scummy for not voting marv? Why am I NOT scummy for doing the same? This isn't the first time someone is complaining about how hard it was to get marv lynched but be honest here - does that mean he is more likely scum when the people who refused to lynch him were basically WoS, austin and me? 2 of those are in your townlist one in unknown.I have the horrible feeling gumshoe might be town and literally the worst player imaginable. If that is the case we are totally fucked (thanks gumshoe!) so I am wondering if this is not the perfect time to lynch him regardless for policy reasons. Hm... Gumshoe, if you are town you better go into try hard mode today and posting some weak shit about Vayne is NOT try hard mode. I want your reads about every other player in the game WITH reasoning. As I said before I will just assume that Wave is town for the rest of the game. If he is scum and pulled that conceding shit etc. then I hope he is proud about winning this way. If he is town and annoyed that is perfectly understandable. WoS, please don't just vote gumshoe and peace out. At least try to win this game with me. I will go over all the lynches again later and see if I find something.
So I will concede that Marv and Ace as scum is unlikely I still feel like yesterday was scum trying really hard to save marv with a move ANYWHERE else. It makes me think that either gum is a poor townie who has played against his win con minus posting on Oats or he was a bus of a weak member who they can gain credibility off of.
Jat I feel like you've been wrong town all game thats why you didn't move down over WoS. I feel your passion in your tone you REALLY thought Fool was mafia you also really read prphlz/marv as town for AGREEING with you on that Foolishness lynch. You also scum read me for disagreeing with you on the shot on Koshi. So to me you've just been wrong all game and continue to be wrong. WoS on the other hand could have fooled me with his tone read about perking up after the scum got lynched maybe because I was thinking along the same lines that alright we are gonna win this! he was excited too but it could have just been scum motivation to step it up after some partners got caught.
I'm about to head to lunch and am at work but I think for now going to fully catch up afte
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On May 12 2014 08:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
I think poofter is our best bet, his shot still doesnt sit well with me at all. my second choice is gumshoe if people still up for that.
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So after what 4-5 days your best scum read at this point is "this one dude shot someone who looked town to me"?
What do you think of Marv this game? What about Ace?
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On May 12 2014 09:03 marvellosity wrote:
Also, you aint lazy, go look at prplhz mafiagames, and stop with this bullshit "i need to see if this is what townmarv would do". Who gives a shit what i'd do, look at his blasted scumgames and come back and recognise it is blatantly not prplhz's mafia play. And then come back and realise that when i replaced in i put a shit-tonne of effort into the game (whether my results were correct or not).
I know this wasn't directed at me but how do you do this easily? Like is there a list or something? I have tomorrow off so I should have time to read up but don't want to waste time looking through the games under the mafia list to see if prphlz was in them then see if he was town.
To answer your question from earlier about VE/you and why I think you're the scummier one. It is actually for something austin quoted from the QT and has to do with a video mafia read. So VEtown on video mafia will be sorta in your face and not afraid to call someone out or call them a dick or w.e. for not doing something he thinks they should. He is verbose and open. Reading some of the quotes austin posted from the QT changed my mind (because if you'll recall I was actually pushing more heavily on VE than you at the time) I'll link them but I don't expect others to have the same meta read on VE unless they've seen him on video before but: + Show Spoiler +On May 09 2014 12:24 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +Jesus Christ could you hard claim Masons in the thread any more? The fact that you're not dead is very suspicious to me. -.-
I'm going to read this thang before I post too much. 1 hour later Show nested quote +Okay, having read this thang I only have one question for both of you:
Are you fine with the other one? As in, you've spent time together in here, do you feel like the other is trustworthy?
I assume the answer is yes based on what's been said in thread and in here but I want to make sure before we go further. VE responds Show nested quote +Anyway I want to lynch caller not shoot him. I want to know whether he's scum or not because to me that's important with what he's doing right now. Posts today where he's not quite sure about me, maybe Show nested quote +Foolish was cleared because if he were scum Sandroba wouldn't have been shot on the night BH tried to recruit him. We talked about this bitch. ARE YOU FUCKING SCUM AUSTIN? Make sure to show nested quotes as I didn't want to just copy paste but the first 2 I initially read as more of a scummy thing like that from Catastrophe but on 2nd read I see the line about it being suspicious and him wanting to read it as more townie because as scum he would put in the suspicious line but leave out the reading. The third one was exactly how I felt about the Oats lynch. I could have shot him the day I shot Koshi but I wanted to see his flip because it gave town a lot of information so the fact he was thinking the same way as me that who you shoot/lynch is an important distinction is more townie. The last two are the ones that rely on my video mafia read. The bolded part plus the last line that got unquoted and I'm not sure how to fix are both things I could see him saying as town in those games and I actually read them in his voice. I imagined him pulling his ecig out of his mouth and puffing right before the first one and getting closer to the camera.
If you're town marv go back and read my short filters like you suggested I think you will come back realizing I'm town here. JAt you should do so as well they aren't big filters as I'm low volume and the post count doesn't really effect me in the slightest.
Now onto todays lynches. So I'm going to hold off on voting Marv until I've read some of those prphlz scum games and see what they show up. So assuming its not Marv, Ace seems like a good bet or potentially VA/Gum. VA moved down on my list after that bullshit vote he made on me today off something that happened 2 days ago... if I'm scum VA why not push it then?? I know you had Jats backing at the time.
@WoS say we knew gumshoe was green who would be your 2nd choice for scum?
@VE/Slam How many mafia should be left? Is it like video mafia VE so number of players divided by 4? Assuming its like that we would have started with 5 on the cusp of 6 so I guess with trator that probably means 6. So 2 confirmed dead, I think between Koshi/Yamato/Caller we would have to be pretty unlucky not to have hit 1 mafia. This brings us to 2-3 left. For me 3 is more realistic and I want to play safe. So I feel like the lynch was controlled yesterday and some people didn't/werent concerned about getting a lynch. At this point they would need to have some sleeps to be successful if they have 3 out of the suspicious bunch. Myself/JaT Austin Slam VE were all still alive. vs something like Marv/VA/Ace/gum/Palmer/WoS <<<I feel like the 3 are in there with WoS being conditional on gum's alignment if gum is scum WoS is back in the village if he is town hes probably my number 1. He has been all about consolidating but yesterday wanted instead to sit on the lurker with austin which would be a great move to deflect from a teammate like marv. Blah I need to just figure out where I can read prphlz because like 70% of my reads revolve around marv and how I think we missed and if I'm wrong I'm just being a dope about half of these.
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