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MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 08 2014 22:02 GMT
#1181
welp i need to study for my physics midterm in a couple of hours. But honestly, didn't see this coming.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 08 2014 22:11 GMT
#1182
So I guess we didn't have a vigi this game, why would he claim vigi? It's a sure way of getting shot by the vigi if we do have one, whatever, I guess he did draw a roleblock and now a kill on him, so that's something. I never fully believed he was vigi anyways.

So, I assume they probably roleblocked him in the night too, but maybe not. Anyways, if we have a cop or something that wants to claim now, that would be great.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
May 08 2014 22:18 GMT
#1183
wtf was mtamburini thinking? Was it all a ploy to stop himself getting lynched on the first day?

Ok, seeing as we have no vig, I don't think the host would have given mafia 4 players. Right now, I'm certain the last two scum are dfs and meat. Meat realises dfs is indefensible so he busses him along with me. Yellow is still cleared for me, now that mtam has flipped innocent. It means scum were totally expecting him to shoot yellow on night 2.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 08 2014 22:22 GMT
#1184
Its pretty dangerous to assume there is only 3 mafia. And i dont' mind mtam's ploy. He survives a lynch, and gets roleblocked. Pretty good for a vanilla town. I like how you say dfs is indefensible when i'm the one who brought up that dfs was mafia, and i've pushed the hardest for him since the very begining. Throwing someone under the bus, when i have absolutely nothing to gain?
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
May 08 2014 22:25 GMT
#1185
On May 09 2014 07:00 iamperfection wrote:
Day 4


mtamburini the Helix Worshiper is dead.

You have 48 hours

good players
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
May 09 2014 00:07 GMT
#1186
On May 09 2014 07:22 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Its pretty dangerous to assume there is only 3 mafia. And i dont' mind mtam's ploy. He survives a lynch, and gets roleblocked. Pretty good for a vanilla town. I like how you say dfs is indefensible when i'm the one who brought up that dfs was mafia, and i've pushed the hardest for him since the very begining. Throwing someone under the bus, when i have absolutely nothing to gain?

no this was objectively a pretty terrible play, he derailed the d1 lynch because his claim didn't make sense and I and others assumed he was sk for it

and if the numbers hadn't worked out right for him to give him an excuse not to shoot n2, he'd have probably been mislynched for holding his shot

not worth worrying about atm though. what is is that we have seven players left:

Eden
bunnies
Epishade
dfs
meat
ahswtini
Yell0w

and 2-3 scum
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
May 09 2014 00:20 GMT
#1187
Lol holy shit I just got home after moving out of my dorm and tamburini wasn't vigi rofl. My computer's not set up right now and I'm on phone but I did not see tamburini flipping regular townie. Then he asks us who he should shoot and make a case for them lol. That's actually hilarious that he claimed vigi without being one.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
May 09 2014 01:04 GMT
#1188
Nothing's really changed my mind yet.

##VOTE Yell0w
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 09 2014 01:37 GMT
#1189
Dammit tamburini. You dumbass...

Actually, it wasnt a super bad play to do that, but that totally fucked with my mind this game.

Most of my reads were based on him being vigi.

I'm gonna have t take a step back a reassess some things. I'll make a post within the next couple of hours.

I'm guessing, if no one else got roleblocked, that tamburini got roleblocked within the night.

But that's a good thing then, because if we have a parity cop, they have checks. If not, well then, guess straight reads it is.

This is a lylo situation people!
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 09 2014 01:52 GMT
#1190
i got roleblocked again
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 09 2014 01:53 GMT
#1191
@bunnies, why would you roleblock the person you were going to kill?
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 09 2014 02:22 GMT
#1192
On May 09 2014 10:53 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
@bunnies, why would you roleblock the person you were going to kill?


Because,if you roleblock the vigi, he can't get a shot off, which means who he was going to shoot is mafia.

And the fact tamburini said he wasnt going to claim his shot until next day, mafia probably couldn't take that chance and would roleblock him, but apparantly that read is wrong if you were roleblocked. .

I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 09 2014 02:43 GMT
#1193
ya, im really wondering why i was the one who got roleblocked. I thought it would make sense if they are going to kill him, but now im soo lost as to why they used it on me again...
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 09 2014 02:56 GMT
#1194
Well, maybe they were reading you as a role?

I thought I was gonna die in the night because I;m nt being protected by the jailer anymore
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 09 2014 03:08 GMT
#1195
well for now confirmed town would be

bunnies
me
yell0w

fenced
epi
eden

scum
dfs
ahs
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
May 09 2014 03:57 GMT
#1196
On May 09 2014 12:08 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
well for now confirmed town would be

bunnies
me
yell0w

fenced
epi
eden

scum
dfs
ahs

How is Yell0w even close to confirmed town? This hasn't and doesn't make sense to me at all.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
May 09 2014 07:08 GMT
#1197
On May 09 2014 11:43 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
ya, im really wondering why i was the one who got roleblocked. I thought it would make sense if they are going to kill him, but now im soo lost as to why they used it on me again...

NOW you're wondering why you were roleblocked? Because during the day you were pretty convinced you were the best target.

Also, that guy...
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
May 09 2014 07:52 GMT
#1198
On May 09 2014 16:08 dfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 11:43 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
ya, im really wondering why i was the one who got roleblocked. I thought it would make sense if they are going to kill him, but now im soo lost as to why they used it on me again...

NOW you're wondering why you were roleblocked? Because during the day you were pretty convinced you were the best target.

Also, that guy...

Meat also took his time announcing that he was roleblocked, made 4 posts after the day start and then SUDDENLY "oh wait I was roleblocked".
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
May 09 2014 11:44 GMT
#1199
On May 08 2014 11:11 Eden1892 wrote:
You should shoot Yell0w because his play has been cowardly, which is a mafia trait. He's been very reactive; he only gets involved when someone else is accusing him or voting for him, he doesn't push for his candidate to get killed and he hasn't shown any initiative in trying to find mafia. He's the only player who has never voted for a player who's flipped yet, which is a huge black mark in my book because it betrays a reticence to be on the record. Town don't have a particular motive to be on the record, but scum have a powerful incentive NOT to be on the record, as the fewer the number of confirmed players they've weighed in on, the more flexible they can be in their search for a lynch. Furthermore, the reason he's been off the record so far is that he keeps parking his vote on outlying candidates (dfs last night, mtamburini d2). People who are consistently on outliers, like Yell0w is, and who aren't arguing for their candidate strongly and making cases for them, like Yell0w hasn't, are more likely to be scum, because again, they don't want to be on the record. It's forgivable to be off the record if you're pushing your cases hard and simply not convincing people. It's not forgivable to be off the record and not making an effort to get on the record by getting your preferred candidate lynched. Yell0w is in the latter category, and it's time to stop forgiving him.

My second choice is ahswtini because I don't feel his votes have matched up with his story. The main thing I'm noticing is that while he voted to kill dravernor late, the whole time he was arguing for meat and dfs to be killed. dfs would have been a viable third wagon if he had switched, but he didn't. meat was a viable second wagon until the end, and ahswtini wasn't on it at all. I don't understand why he would name two other players as his main suspects and then vote for dravernor instead. But my issue is that I don't understand it as either alignment. As town, why is he on someone he doesn't name as his 1st or 2nd suspect, when both of them were viable counterwagons? As mafia, why did he kill his teammate instead of sticking with his story and trying to kill one of the others? I guess it's possible ahs/meat/dfs/drav was the scumteam, but I don't buy that at all. ahs is also the least townie of the non-Yell0w others in the game; I think Eden/Epishade/bunnies are all obvtown at this point, meat's probably town, and dfs is probably town because Yell0w was pushing him so hard over drav. So by POE if you don't kill Yell0w I'd rather ahs over the rest.

But I really want Yell0w.

OK, I want people to talk to me about both of these reads. No one seems to have an opinion on Yell0w besides meat, who sees him as super town for some reason I don't understand. Lots of people seem to share a scumread on ahswtini. Can we kill one of these two today? I'm nearly positive both are mafia.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
May 09 2014 13:40 GMT
#1200
What do you think of the fact that mtamburini our fake vig wasn't roleblocked on the second night, where he was almost certainly going to shoot yellow. That, for me, is good enough proof that he's town.

However, I'm getting more and more worried about bunnies. Her quality of play has dropped off dramatically since the first day. As a high priority target, I would have expected her to die already. Yes, Mafia probably thought she was being protected, but consider the possibility that she successfully fooled all of us, especially the jailer, into believing she is supertown, so that it wouldn't look weird for her to still be alive after three nights. She has never pushed me that hard either, despite how easy it would be to, and again I think that's because there's simply no need for her to get involved when the town are already on the case.

With regards to my voting behaviour yesterday, I think you'll find that I DID initially put my vote on mysterymeat, but he convinced me to unvote in favour of killing drav or dfs. Just because I was arguing for meat and dfs to die doesn't mean I can't be persuaded to vote for someone else. I didn't vote dfs because I would have been the only vote, and I was criticised before for making an "outlier" vote. I called drav out to make a post, and her post didn't reassure me of her alignment at all. I also voted drav to make sure the scum team couldn't make a last minute vote blitz onto meat, on the off chance that he WAS innocent.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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