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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
In case I am not able to post around deadline, any votes after the 48 hour mark will not count and the game will be put on halt until the night post is up. Please be quiet until the night post guys. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
Night 3 Dravernor The False Prophet has been Lynched Sorry about the delay get your actions in | ||
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Epishade
United States2267 Posts
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
GET REKT MAFIA So i might die tonight, js. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
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mtamburini
Canada506 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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mtamburini
Canada506 Posts
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Epishade
United States2267 Posts
On May 08 2014 10:32 mtamburini wrote: Can i just shoot you for telling me what to do I would not suggest doing that. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On May 08 2014 10:32 mtamburini wrote: Can i just shoot you for telling me what to do But that means you're not shooting Yell0w, which is bad | ||
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mtamburini
Canada506 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
You shouldn't shoot me because I've done arguably the most of anyone in the game to find mafia and figure out what's going on. Epishade is the only other person still alive that I'd consider as my equal in that respect. Mafia obviously don't especially care to figure out the game state and they aim to fit in with the town's degree of figuring things out, not to rise above it or fall below it. I've also on a couple of occasions argued for my lynch candidate over the opposing wagon when mafia would either have no special incentive to do so (see day 1 when two townies were up for a lynch) or would have an incentive not to do so (see day 3 when my switch to dravernor and subsequent arguing for her lynch got her killed when I could have stayed on mysterymeat and probably gotten him killed instead). Finally and tied to the previous point, I drove the wagon on the only scum we've caught. You should shoot Yell0w because his play has been cowardly, which is a mafia trait. He's been very reactive; he only gets involved when someone else is accusing him or voting for him, he doesn't push for his candidate to get killed and he hasn't shown any initiative in trying to find mafia. He's the only player who has never voted for a player who's flipped yet, which is a huge black mark in my book because it betrays a reticence to be on the record. Town don't have a particular motive to be on the record, but scum have a powerful incentive NOT to be on the record, as the fewer the number of confirmed players they've weighed in on, the more flexible they can be in their search for a lynch. Furthermore, the reason he's been off the record so far is that he keeps parking his vote on outlying candidates (dfs last night, mtamburini d2). People who are consistently on outliers, like Yell0w is, and who aren't arguing for their candidate strongly and making cases for them, like Yell0w hasn't, are more likely to be scum, because again, they don't want to be on the record. It's forgivable to be off the record if you're pushing your cases hard and simply not convincing people. It's not forgivable to be off the record and not making an effort to get on the record by getting your preferred candidate lynched. Yell0w is in the latter category, and it's time to stop forgiving him. My second choice is ahswtini because I don't feel his votes have matched up with his story. The main thing I'm noticing is that while he voted to kill dravernor late, the whole time he was arguing for meat and dfs to be killed. dfs would have been a viable third wagon if he had switched, but he didn't. meat was a viable second wagon until the end, and ahswtini wasn't on it at all. I don't understand why he would name two other players as his main suspects and then vote for dravernor instead. But my issue is that I don't understand it as either alignment. As town, why is he on someone he doesn't name as his 1st or 2nd suspect, when both of them were viable counterwagons? As mafia, why did he kill his teammate instead of sticking with his story and trying to kill one of the others? I guess it's possible ahs/meat/dfs/drav was the scumteam, but I don't buy that at all. ahs is also the least townie of the non-Yell0w others in the game; I think Eden/Epishade/bunnies are all obvtown at this point, meat's probably town, and dfs is probably town because Yell0w was pushing him so hard over drav. So by POE if you don't kill Yell0w I'd rather ahs over the rest. But I really want Yell0w. | ||
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Epishade
United States2267 Posts
On May 08 2014 10:45 mtamburini wrote: I think shooting tonight to give us a ML tomorrow if I hit correctly might be the best idea. I would like everyone to build a case on why I shouldnt shoot them and 2 people I should shoot. You're giving us HOMEWORK!?! I'm doing a lot of digging here to figure out the game. My reads haven't always been the best, but I've retracted them whenever I admitted fault. I hope that's a good enough reason not to shoot me. Here are my thoughts on the current situation though. Eden really wants Yellow dead. I've looked up the interactions that Yellow and Drav have had so far and, from what I can tell, they don't look too well like mafia partners. I urge you to look through their filters too and come to your own conclusion. Yellow and Drav both have each other as suspicious, and Yellow also votes for Drav before switching his vote to Eden. I think Yellow made a weak case to not vote for Drav just because he didn't like Eden, and it's being interpreted as him deflecting from his mafia partner. The only reason he didn't vote for Drav is because Eden voted for Drav and Yellow thinks that Eden is scum. I don't think Yellow's suspicion on Eden is particularly warranted, but that's the reason he voted for dfs as I see it. Apart from Yellow, there's Ahs, who I think is a better target. I looked through the filter between Drav and Ahs and came up with some thoughts. Ahs doesn't talk all that much about Drav in his filter. Every mention of Drav is either asking why Meat voted for her (Drav's a girl I guess?), and this: On May 08 2014 01:44 ahswtini wrote: Would like to see a post from dravenor with her suspicions. I know she's online... This is the only conversation that ahswtini attempts to initiate with Drav. I would think a mafia mistake is not having enough conversation with your partners, right? Since you know what your team is thinking, you don't really need to converse with each other to figure out their thought process. I think that's what happened here, is that ahswtini was attempting to talk a bit to Drav to add to the conversation between the two to make them seem less mafia-like. Now, if you look at Drav's filter, and search through all the instances she mentions ahswtini, you can see that she's been kind of questioning his actions throughout the game, but still giving him a townread, except for one time where she lists him as scum in her reads for some reason idk. It'd be a pain to go through and quote everything because Drav's posts are very long, so I'm just going to paste everything I can find about ahswtini that Drav mentions (in chronological order): + Show Spoiler + What does everyone think of ahswtini at the moment? I think he made some good points, but I also think he shouldn't have voted Meat because he wasn't around to defend himself or contribute. Sure he hasn't been a great contributer so far, but we need to give him a chance. Why was ahswtini so desperate to have him lynched day 1? I don't see him having anything to hide by voting Meat, that wouldn't make sense, right? -------------- I'm not sure what to think of tamb; ofc this is mostly because of what other people have already suspected of him - this hasn't changed, nor have my views on Epishade. ahswtini and MM1 have been laying it low this game, but I am not entirely convinced they're mafia. They may look suspicious but they haven't done enough to arouse my interest as possible mafia just yet. I think my top scumreads at the moment are Epishade and sqrt. I am on the fence with bunnies (and Yell0w -still) at the moment, her coming out and claiming she has a role all of a sudden and that she was blocked doesn't sound quite right to me. I already expressed suspicion of her in the beginning, withdrew it, and now it is building again. Is it possible she is mafia and shot to kill one of us, but someone roleblocked her? And if there is a sk (who isn't tamb), they were the one who possibly killed Amiko? I don't really know if that can happen in this game. If so, whoever roleblocked bunnies would surely have presented a case against her as to why she is mafia, and surely would have voted to lynch her? Thus far there has not been any substantial case claiming her to be mafia. So I guess by that reasoning, it makes sense that bunnies is town. It also doesn't make sense that a sk would kill Amiko on N1 since he was providing the most information. Unless the sk knew he was onto something and had something to hide? Is it possible that tamb IS infact sk and shot Amiko, then claimed to be gunning for Yell0w? A pretty clever ploy if you ask me. -------------- Don't have much of an opinion on yet, but probably town: ritoky, Meat, dfs, ahswtini -------------- I actually agree. I think Meat is town. I think dfs is town. I think bunnies might be town. I think tamb is town. I think Epishade is scum. I think Eden might be scum. I think ahs might be scum. I think Yell0w might be scum. -------------- ahswtini if you knew how long it took me to write my blogs you would know why it has taken me so long to post after getting home i don't really see what is so mafia about ahs (and myself either infact) - he hasn't been interacting a lot, sure, and he hasn't been putting pressure on anyone, but maybe he is busy too? I dunno, I only suspected him in the first place because a lot of you seemed to be making short cases against him, reading into them. But I'm still not entirely sure. 50:50. -------------- Drav has that reply to Ahs at the end there (second to last post in the spoiler) based on what he was asking her from the above quote. This is their only interaction with each other and in it, Drav reaffirms his townieness. I think Ahs is a better shot than Yellow. Then, idk Meat I guess? Try not to shoot Eden though. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
So here is who I would shoot. I would shoot between Ahs, dfs, and Eden, in that order. I can give information as to why but I'm mostly using process of elimination. Obviously, if you are vigi, you and I are town. I find Epishade and Eden more townie than not though I am wary that one of them might be a very good mafia scum leading more noobish mafia team, however, I wouldn't shoot them just yet. If you weren't blocked in the night, more or less we must believe meat's claim, or atleast for now. So he is off the table until tomorrow. Yell0w, although while I was initially d1 scumreading because of how he was trolly and claimed mafia, I believe he is town as he has been trying to figure out the game. Good luck gentlemen. | ||
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
Your either blind, mafia, or eden to not agree with this. Im more interested in who the mafia is going to kill. | ||
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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