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I am considering policy lynching slam. In a serious way. Kush knows why. | ||
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On April 15 2014 13:49 ObviousOne wrote: I had a pretty quick read on him in toy story over on omgus but yeah he's on my policy list as well. please enlighten me | ||
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On April 15 2014 17:57 Djagulingu wrote: EBWOP: By the way, OmniEulogy not being interested in if Koshi was town or not can be reasoned by either him knowing his role or he's way too hungry and tired to think about it. Either way, I'm pretty interested about what he will pull out. He's claiming that he has the spirit of the great maximus black and novawar instilled in himself. I don't think so. This is fucking Mafia by the way. It's not about stopping cheesers or some weird shit. It's Hunter the Reckoning style. are you robik | ||
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On April 16 2014 06:09 FirmTofu wrote: Djagulingu is fairly unimpressive. His activity is commendable, but altogether useless. Most of his posts are one-liners that seek to aggravate or provoke. I see a lot of unsubstantiated accusations in his filter. He's running around trying to piss everyone off all at once without any attempt at substantive discussion. His focus on his own meta is especially interesting and reflective of an egotistical personality. For that reason, I believe his aggressive behavior in thread so far is due to a heightened sense of superiority rather than something alignment-indicative. That is to say, he'd be acting like a douche whether he was mafia or town. lmao | ||
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But I'm bored and want to talk. Can you guess the reason? | ||
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Did you even go back adn read his post? | ||
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On April 16 2014 05:55 mderg wrote: Such a great day! I had more than 10 minutes of free time in total. Awesome. ............... So difficult going through this. The one liners really hurt my reading comprehension. "don't mind me!" | ||
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I thought you wanted to lynch omni? And am I interpreting your above post correctly, that you think cav is a better lynch than mderg? Why are you so willing to swtich when you have stronger scum reads? | ||
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On April 16 2014 17:26 Koshi wrote: thrawn2112, why did you want to police Alakaslam? he won a game he shouldn't have on omgus. | ||
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On April 16 2014 17:33 Djagulingu wrote: EBWOP: I can settle with lynching mderg because 1- He's still on my #2. 2- Lynching my #2 is better than a no lynch. 3- As this is a plurality lynch game, I'll vote for whoever gets highest amount of votes between mderg and cavalinho. Why are you dropping omni from your lynch list? | ||
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he was mafia, and everyone ignored him as usual. the game was solved, kush and I had figured out we only needed to lynch viax and slam to win. i wanted to lynhc vivax and kush agreed because it didn't really matter, we had enough mislynches to spare. then a townie didn't vote and got modkilled and vivax flipped town so town lost. at the start of that game I decided I was going to ignore slam unless I thought everyone else was town because I can't read him at all. There's been times where I think I know how to read him and I end up wrong. I really hate his playstyle, it's one of the most selfish playstyles I can think of and the quality of games would improve if he left or decided to try to play the game I'm just salty, I don't actaully want to policy lynch him, instead I just won't sign up for future games he plays in. | ||
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On April 16 2014 17:36 Koshi wrote: I am pretty meh on Kush atm. Very meh. same for me. becasue of this post On April 16 2014 04:48 kushm4sta wrote: T-5 hours until you both realize each other are town (regardless of if you are or not) | ||
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the part in parenthsis makes the post..... impossible? if you take out that qualification at the end then the post reads as kush saying that both of "you" are town and that you should realize it and stfu. but the the stuff in parenthesis means that he doesn't know if "you" are town... so if he doesn't know if the two players are town then why is he telling them that they should realize that they are havnig a town vs town argument? | ||
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On April 16 2014 18:09 Koshi wrote: But here he is so clueless. How can he know we will see each other as town when he doesn't know we are town? yeah that's what i'm getting at. the mindset needed to make that post isn't really possible? | ||
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On April 16 2014 18:28 Koshi wrote: I don't really want to lynch mrderg. He was quite unimpressive in Cell. It's a bit 50/50. I haven't read his combination of oneliners post replying to one liners post in which his conclusion was one liners are bad but I don't remember it to be superscummy. it's his only post..... | ||
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On April 16 2014 18:37 Koshi wrote: a guy has 10 minutes time to play the game. Reads thread. Quotes some posts he has ideas about and puts those ideas in thread. That's what I see. What you are seeing is: A guy is pretending to be away from thread because he is scum. How do you know you are right? hmm? that's not my point my point is that he argues with a few posts and points out some logical errors or whatever but then he doesn't have any conclusions based on that. and nowhere in his oneliners do I get the sense that he's thinking about alignment. he's only thinking about arguing with random posts. theres' not one single thing in his post that indicates that he's even remotely concerned with people's alignments. that's why i want to lynch him. | ||
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but probably, no. do you think someone can read the whole thread and write responses to posts spread out avross the thread in 10 minutes? but probably no, it's an exaggeration. idc if I believe or not. | ||
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koshi i'll fully read and respond to that meta when i wake up. too tired/tipsy for that right now. but i did skim one of the links and I notice that he likes to argue about stuff without thinking about alignments. so my preliminary answer to you question is yes, the meta does sorta make me uncertain about lnyching him. | ||
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i don't know about oe yet. i see why his posts are bad but i'm still not convinced he's scum. i want to talk to him first and i was hoping he'd show up in these last few hours (cuz he came on about the same time 24 hours ago) but he hasn't. so idk what to think of him just yet. | ||
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a few hours ago i read the thread, decided that mdgerg was scummy, OE is a bit scummy too and that he needed to be my first priority. I noticed that he started posted a little less than 24 hours ago so I thought i'd hang out in the thread and try to talk to him when he shows up. but he hasn't. reading his filter over and over doesn't do anything for me so I can't really progress that read. you ask what's mderg's agenda. isn't the fact that he has no agenda pretty scummy? my whole point is that he has no agenda, that he's literally not trying to find mafia. he's make NO EFFORTS to find mafia, he doesn't even seem interested in that part of the game. idc about him lying or not, his 10 min statement doesn't tell me anything other than that he feels like he needs to apoligze for his lack of contributions. so I'm wanting to look into OE but i';m conflicted about that, so I want to talk to him first. but he won't oblige me i'm semi interested in lynching kush and i tried to talk to you about that but you half-agreed with me then decided the conversation was useless. so i don't know what you expect from me, considering all of the above | ||
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yeah kush is really town | ||
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fuck u koshi. because i was going to bring that up. in context the point of that post seems to be OE trying to keep his vote on me despite agreeing with koshi that I might be town. he's giving a bunch of association reasons to lynch someone he just said might be town. | ||
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On April 17 2014 04:53 Vivax wrote: Thrawn if you're here I still got one thing bugging me about you and it's this I would like you to explain: You clearly find that post "funny", I suppose cause it's so inconclusive and achieves absolutely nothing saying a lot of stuff which is my opinion about it, why not dig for more and go straight only for mderg? it's funny because FT's description of djag is so accurate. his style of constant self-promotion is insufferable. also it reminded me of this post. nickthename is some random ms player and "fear the poster" is prom. | ||
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Townreads: koshi - probably cares the most about the game and has put in the most useful effort so far. at the beginning of the game when he told me that he's going to need me to play my best, I really thought that was a townie post for him to make. In the past he's misread me because I was lazy so I think that post was because of our past experience, plus his expectations of how the game was going to go based off the player list. so I think he is pushing town's interests kush - gut feeling, if I could explain it i would mderg - after reading his past games I realized that the way he posts that caused me to scumread him earlier... is just the way he plays the game. and I think his slight scumread on me is a natural reaction. if he's capable of making that first post as town, then he wouldn't be able to understand why i'd think it was scummy, so his scum read on me makes sense. I also think he made some pretty townie responses during some live conversation that happened a bit earlier. obviousone - he's my D1 buddy djag - earlier I called him insufferable. i don't thik scum, and especially first time scum, would post in a way that would annoy everyone else in the game. for people that know robik, i'm getting town roboik vibes from him, but more like a poor man's robik. he's so sure of himself and not afraid to rub it in people's faces and that usually indicates that someone is town. vivax - I think he's town. I don't feel strongly about this because I'm not that confident in my ability to read him. But his posts make sense, and all I can remember of his scum play is that his logic ain't so good. And when he's town there's this vibe I get from him where it feels like he's trying to interrogate people and that's what I see here. So I got a moderately strong meta town read on vivax. skan - i don't think omgus players would fake claim like that. all my experience on the site indicates that they wouldn't. That's my PoE town list. It leaves me with cavalinho, OTW, FT, and OE. OTW - Out of those 4 PoE names I think OTW has made more posts that left me with a town impression. I was all ready to call him mafia because his case on me is pretty stupid but now that I know he's a first time player I'm not ready to hold him accountable for that. In general his posts have felt townieish. I can't remember anything that Cavalinho's done or anything he's pushed. Usuauly that's indicative of someone being scum. I need to reread his shit. Same for FT. All I remember about him is the post he made about djag and some hard defense of the mderg lynch which seemed a bit over the top given the circumstances. Out of my PoE group, OE's the scummiest. I am kinda where koshi's at in that i don't feel all that great about my scumreads, I think this is because I haven't had a chance to converse with any of them. This is why I was hanging out waiting for OE last night. The things I don't like about him are how he was tunneled on koshi with no real purpose behind the tunnel, I thought the way his read on djag fromed felt a bit unnatural and didn't seem like a real read. I also felt this way when slightly started pushnig me. On April 17 2014 01:50 OmniEulogy wrote: I think your case for why thrawn is town might be correct but it still doesn't change my mind on how I view a Kush lynch over the other lurkers, both of which I would rather avoid because I feel like it's just lynching on person from a group and hoping you picked the right one. I realize you probably meant OTW but I realized I hadn't made any mention that I had read it either. lol This post was so weird. Koshi explains why he thought thrawn was town. OE says that koshi's case might be correct... then he says a bunch of nonrelated stuff that allows him to not have to recant his thrawn read. Like I said earlier he's agreeing with a "thrawn is town" case while giving bullshit reasons to not move his vote. and wtf is this On April 16 2014 23:35 OmniEulogy wrote: the problem I'm having right now Koshi is that between Kush, Cavalinho, Slam, FirmTofu, and even still mderg I have no reason to think that any of them are town. he makes this post after saying these things about me: On April 16 2014 23:23 OmniEulogy wrote: his vote on mderg is scummy imo, his accusations considering his entire filter comes down to policy lynching Slam and lynching mderg, and then his conversation with Koshi about Kush where he only votes for kush after you do Skan. It just seems like the only thing he does is try to find a SAFE place to put his vote. On April 16 2014 22:30 OmniEulogy wrote: The biggest thing I have against you though is you trying to convince town to lynch mderg. I can't see any town motivation behind that given what he has said over other people in the game. So mderg is a safe place for me to put my vote? But OE has no reason to think mderg is town? And I'm scum for voting kush, but kush is one of OE's main scumreads? Clearly he has no issue with the people I've voted for, because his reads on those people generally matched up with mine. He's only calling out the timing of my votes as opportunistic. But that's stupid. That should't be enough for him to scumread me considering how much our reads were apparently in sync, and how he apparently liked koshi's post about why I'm town. Spekaing of opputunistic and safe lynching pushing, see OE's push on me. | ||
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On April 17 2014 08:45 OneThousandWords wrote: I'll share my opinion now. I kind of like this post, it calls out a lot of the things that I had been saying but adds to them. I had called out Dja for his meta read of himself that he seemed to betray and dja had only responded with a quote from a book. That is not the response that I would have expected and it seems like Omni mirrored this in his thoughts. I think he's fundamentaly flawed in how he's been taught mafia though and that's where the problem therein lies. He has been taught to just find scum whereas you have been taught that you should find town and scum at the same time because that makes the job easier. It's not a scum slip as you mentioned but rather a clash of two philosophies IMO and thus the rest of his post came to fruition. when I look at that post i see an anti-koshi wall of text with no purpose. does he think koshi si scum? does he want to lynch koshi? he doesn't say. so why is he spending so mush time pointing out all that stuff? | ||
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but the problem is that the amount of effort need to write that post is disporportionate to how strongly OE felt about his koshi read. if someone makes that kind of post against koshi I expect them to push koshi, not ignore him the rest of the game | ||
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On April 17 2014 08:54 OneThousandWords wrote: Well I'm not going to speak for him so I don't know his motivation for it, it looks like he's a bit angry with Koshi if anything. I kind of have to go out now and won't be back before deadline. yo realize that you are wasting your vote? i'm obviously town and I'm not going to get lynched. | ||
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are what's stopping me from voting him. | ||
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-have you been ignoring him all game like I have? can you not remember anything he's done? that's because he's mafia! -he knows my alignment, as can be seen from his posts about and in response to OTW -OTW's above post, he's not interested in finding scum. his filter reeks of the scummy "idc about alignments" attitude | ||
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On April 17 2014 09:24 kushm4sta wrote: i remember shit he's done, thrawn. what looks scummy to me is putting his vote on OTW and peacing out. Where does he "know" your alignment? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447645-normal-ass-normal-game?page=26#520 | ||
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On April 17 2014 09:27 thrawn2112 wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447645-normal-ass-normal-game?page=26#520 and the posts he made after that one. he wouldn't even be voting for OTW if he wasn't so good at understanding my intentions. I don't remember the game but I think you were in it, where we lynched someone because their main scumread was based on them defending someone else. scum know alignments so that's an easy case for them to make. | ||
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On April 17 2014 09:29 kushm4sta wrote: i read that as townreading you rather than having extra information that you are town the townread is too strong imo And like I just said. "You are scum because X player is so town so your case is bad" is an easy case for scum to make. | ||
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What are you thinking right at this exact moment? | ||
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I don't think we should lynch OE. | ||
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On April 17 2014 09:45 FirmTofu wrote: Hey, I'm back. Hello! | ||
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On April 17 2014 10:05 FirmTofu wrote: Quick question: Thrawn, when I defended you in this post... Did you agree with what I said? Consider the case in isolation, before I commented on it. yeah I agree that I'm town. i dont really understand the question | ||
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On April 17 2014 10:07 kushm4sta wrote: why aren't we lynching cavalinho? why are people townreading that guy? i'm not. i don't even have a read on him outside of him being liekly scum due to poe. i'll go read his stuff. | ||
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Do I think his case is stupid? Yes. But it's the kind of case that I'm used to seeing posted whenever I play the spammy and loose town style that I'm playing this game. I know that I jump around a lot and some people are hardwired to think that's scummy. Back when I first started playing I wouls always get mislynched because of cases like the one OTW made, people accused me of having too many targets, of opputunistic voting, of having incoherent reads and chaning my mind too often, all that kind of stuff. The problem is that your super strong townread on me seems to be the only reason you scumread OTW. And that indicates that you're scum, making an easy case on OTW because you know that I'm town so it's easy for you to shit all over OTW's case. | ||
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On April 17 2014 10:29 Vivax wrote: He's saying he has no scumreads, do you mean that? He thought at some point, that your actions make you scummy. Now I ask you, how do you think the mafia would react if a guy they previously called out is opposed to their lynch? Would they still call him scum? i dunno where you're going with this and i refuse to answer the question. you seem to be trying to lead me somewhere so just go ahead and make your point. | ||
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On April 17 2014 10:25 kushm4sta wrote: My compiled cavalinho case: cavalinho is looking scummiest to me right now. He is continuing to scumread FT for writing expansive thoughts on why he thinks djangulingu is null. instead of just saying null. Terrible reason for scum reading someone. I can see why FT could be considered scummy for just writing this out of no where, but as an answer to a question, it ceases to be scummy. FT "doesn't actually thing anything." That is not true and it's such a scummy way to call someone scummy. i mean looking cavalinho's reasoning for why FT is scum. He is repeating the same generic shit over and over again. plus why the fuck is cavalinho so focused on FT when mberg also opened with a post where he doesn't discuss reads at all. plus this looks nothing like his town game here. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445959-newbie-mini-mafia-liv?user=Cavalinho&page=2 i don't see the huge meta difference. and I'm not convinced by your case. in fact the reasons you give for C being scum are about as dumb as the stuff C did that you are calling him scummy for. can you explain again? | ||
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On April 17 2014 10:38 FirmTofu wrote: Why would scum me defend you? If I were scum, I would avoid defending people because of this exact thought process that townies generally have. Also, I wouldn't want to encourage confirmed townies. If I was scum(assuming you are town), I'd be doing my best to make sure you don't become "confirmed" town. I also never made a case on OTW, I just voted him and discredited his case on you. You didn't explicity defend me. In fact you never really stated that I was town. Me being town was more of an assumption you seemed to make. It's not like you were trying to stick up for me or anything, your main agenda with that post was to express that you thought OTW's case against me was scummy. Anyways, this conversation is getting a bit repetitive, I think it'd be more useful for you to figure out who you want to lynch. | ||
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On April 17 2014 10:43 OmniEulogy wrote: Considering I've subbed in for scum before I did almost exactly what you've done so far and it was quite easy I might add. what are you talking about? | ||
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On April 17 2014 10:47 OmniEulogy wrote: I'm just comparing my scum game to how vivax is playing right now as a replacement and how they tend to lineup pretty well, as a response to me not thinking anybody is scum yeah I'm asking you to explain how vivax is playing, and how you played. | ||
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And if you aren't convinced he's scum then you need to explain what you're thinking about doing with your vote. | ||
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On April 17 2014 11:04 kushm4sta wrote: it's fine thrawn because you will feel dumb eventually and i can gloat I'm not townreading him. I just don't think your points are convincing. | ||
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On April 17 2014 11:40 kushm4sta wrote: k im happy with this lynch on cav yeah it feels pretty good | ||
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On April 17 2014 11:51 getmoript wrote: Currently kushm4sta is set to be lynched! either this is wrong or this aint no normal ass game | ||
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On April 17 2014 12:15 Vivax wrote: Look at thrawn. He townreads them and he refuses to give me reasons not to lynch em just because ????? But he sure felt entitled to demand answers. On April 17 2014 10:22 thrawn2112 wrote: vivax I already said that I thought that post OE made about koshi was strange. but based on the tone of his recent posts I don't think he's mafia. his confusion seems real. my read on OE changed here after I asked him this question: On April 17 2014 09:33 thrawn2112 wrote: Hey OE. Glad we're finally both here. What are you thinking right at this exact moment? and he responds with On April 17 2014 09:36 OmniEulogy wrote: shoulda bought an AWP sooner. You're probably town. I wish there wasn't snow on the ground. I dunno who to vote for anymore. in no particular order. On April 17 2014 09:39 OmniEulogy wrote: seriously though this game is god damn confusing right now. I can't tell if the people I'm checking off as town are actually town or if I'm just bad at judging this shit. both these posts feel very natural and express his confusion about the state of the game, something I strongly identified with. I believe that those two posts are truth with FT, I still think he's a bit scummy. but I had began to think that maybe i was wrong because instead of fucking off, he stayed in the thread and was making sense. so i asked kush and you what you guys thought of his posts since he had returned and kush replied with "town." that's how I felt about them. kush is my strongest town read right now so him agreeing with my read on FT's recent posts convinced me to wait on lynching FT. | ||
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On April 17 2014 12:24 Vivax wrote: And why is Cava scum, thrawn? -poe -he hasn't done anything townie | ||
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and he was in the thread around this time 24 hours ago. but where is he now? and I see what kush is saying now but I think that what's more telling is how tunneled cavalinho's been. if not for kush asking him abotu mderg then cavalin probably wouldn't have ever mentioned him. he only like to talk about his one scumread and he only has one reason for that scumread On April 16 2014 14:30 Cavalinho wrote: 1) I never said I looked scummy. I said I was inactive, and asking me to talk more is a reasonable thing to ask. 2) FT never even talked to me until I posted my vote on him. OTW was the one who made a read on me. 3) I said that the short case posted on me is, at best, null and silly, due to my three posts having no alignment-indicative information in them whatsoever If you're going to pressure me, at least get the details right. Cripes. and I think the red part is indicative of scum mindset | ||
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On April 17 2014 12:35 FirmTofu wrote: If I get lynched, I'm confident town will find its way. I'm just gonna wait for the flip now. btw I'm probably the swing vote. and I'm still not completely shut off to the idea of lynching you. So what do you think about cavalinho now that he's arrived? if you just fuck off then that WILL increase your chances of being lynched | ||
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On April 17 2014 12:39 FirmTofu wrote: Well, right now I think that Cavalinho is the only other possible lynch today. I think he is still a good target mostly because of his meta and partly because of Kush's case. I think voting me to break the tie would be better for us than no lynch at all. But what do you think of his recent posts? Do you think he is going to flip scum? and I really hate that last sentence. a lot. town shouldn't think like that. | ||
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On April 17 2014 12:43 OmniEulogy wrote: yeah I'm not sure if a nolynch is always a defeat for town. I'd rather avoid it but I mean... idk. I don't mind breaking the tie but I'm fucking dead D2 if shit goes bad LOL i'll take the heat lol | ||
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there's this king or something two bitches bitch #1's baby dies. bitch #1 steals bitch #2's baby. they go before the king to let him decide what to do. he decides to chop baby in half so they can each have part of it. scummy bitch #1 says ok. townie bitch #2 says no and has emotional outburst. king realizes that btich #1 is the liar. in this game FT is acting like B #1 by saying that he's fine with himself being lynched instead of a no lynch. he's splitting the difference, he's compromising and agreeing to something that he shouldn't, if he is town. and cavalin is B #2 for being more emotional than FT | ||
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On April 17 2014 13:06 Cavalinho wrote: Vivax is still town as fuck for sticking his neck out for me. The lynch might not have gone great, but I'm probably not going to vote for him ever. So. You've been talking about FT all game long, and now he's flipped town. What were your immediate thoughts after seeing his flip? | ||
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On April 17 2014 15:48 Djagulingu wrote:Vivax though, I have no idea. When he was alakaslam, he was screaming scum, Vivax plays so-so. .... I say: Vivax is town. He really is. ....... Imo if we lynch Vivax next, we go into 5-3 LYLO. I say we Vigishot OE and RB thrawn. Then we lynch cavalinho (he will probably end up standard red with no qualities). really man wtf are you doing? | ||
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On April 17 2014 16:07 Djagulingu wrote: You disagree with almost everyone's cavalinho read. that makes me mafia? why? what's my mafia motivation for disagreeing with everyone's cavalinho read? | ||
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And what you're saying I'm trying to do doesn't even line up with what I'm doing. You said that part of my master plan is to lynch vivax, yet I don't want to lynch vivax. I think he's town! So this grand plan you've thought up doesn't even make sense. | ||
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On April 17 2014 16:27 Djagulingu wrote: No. The 'grand scheme of master plans', as you call my way of reading your agenda, involved bandwagoning onto a d1 lynch that was as logical as it would get, and then give its credit to a person and lynch him next. Easy LYLO in a mini setup. Are you talking about the "+1" comment I made? You're misreading that. It was me getting back at vivax for being such a douche towards me prior to the lynch. I wasn't saying anything about his alignment there. I think he's pretty townie. I'll defend him if he';s up for lynch D2, unless my read changes in which case I'll be sure to give sufficient reasoning behind the change. But I don't see that happening, because I don't see any kind of mafia agenda behind Vivax's posts. | ||
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On April 17 2014 17:33 Skanjab1s wrote: But, if the only games you've played with me are on here, where I have never rolled scum, how do you know I wouldn't take a big risk like this as mafia? You say 'he's not the type of player to take huge risks like this as mafia', but you've never seen my mafia game. i'd sheep that. hey skan do you wanna lynch FT? i'm down. | ||
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On April 17 2014 19:21 Skanjab1s wrote: Oh wow, there are quite a few votes on him already. indeed. | ||
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On April 17 2014 20:17 Koshi wrote: hahahahahhahaaha. I just was rereading Djagulingu his filter and I start panicking because the first page was so scummy and not what I remembered at all. Then I saw it was cavalinho his filter. crisis averted. i spent a good amount of D1 thinking that OO and OE were the same person.... | ||
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On April 17 2014 23:20 Koshi wrote: thrawn can you answer OTW his case? There are some good parts in there. It should be cleared up. no there aren't. | ||
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On April 17 2014 23:22 Koshi wrote: Sure there is. The part where you look like you want to lynch Cavalinho unless FT fucks off and you vote FT anyway. What happened there? ft fucked off. he told us it was ok for us to lynch him him to avoid a no lynch and then stopped trying to save himself. | ||
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On April 17 2014 23:28 Djagulingu wrote: Koshi do you understand why thrawn is acting as if FT didn't flip town? you need to shut the fuck up. you didn't do shit all yesterday besides talk about how great you were in some other game and then make shitty fake plays that never amounted to anything. you were probably the most useless player on D1. and now you have the balls to be critical of my play? when I was the person who hjung out in the thread several hours leading up to the lynh to try and make town get its shit together? so many fucking people put their votes somewhere and then afk'd the rest of the day. but I stayed until the end, and even a bit after the end, trying to figure things out. if you were even halfway decent at this game you'd really how obvious it is that I'm one of the few people in this game who give a shit and are trying to get things done. | ||
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On April 17 2014 23:32 Djagulingu wrote: He said these things because mislynch day 1 actually IS better than no lynch day 1 for the town. he should have been trying his damndest to lynch the other guy. especailly since he had a scumread on that guy. not act all passive about his impeding lynch | ||
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On April 17 2014 23:34 Koshi wrote: I blame America and Obama. Europe should always be in charge of the lynch. then why dont you fucking show up next time? | ||
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another big part of why I swtiched was vivax. especially this post On April 17 2014 12:43 Vivax wrote: Question 1: Why does scum add the bolded to a post when they've already explained who they want to lynch? Question 2: The point he makes about kush is actually quite valid if the representation is correct. 1) His thoughts on FT: My thoughts 2) One more reason for his FT read. 3) He disarms the meta argument with something that sounds reasonable. 4) Here kush says he's scum for admitting to having a scumread on mberg when asked. How is that scummy? You guys don't even look at his defense, don't even reply to it. This wagon stinks of scum. And FT says "we should look into him" LOL. Still waiting on that miracle. also OTW wtf is up with you shitting on me for choosing the lynch you voted for? you think I shoulda gone with the other guy? apperently not, according to your vote. | ||
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On April 18 2014 01:03 Cavalinho wrote: \People keep saying my filter is scummy, but nobody actually sits down and specifies why. What is scummy about my filter? And why the fuck is Djag focusing on lylo so early? djag is town. do you disagree? | ||
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On April 18 2014 01:18 Cavalinho wrote: Myself, I think. I'm probably going to do a write-up on several people when I get the chance, specifically Djag, because I don't think his thought process makes sense. his thought proces makes perfect sense. it'[s just unbelievably noobish and lazy. so that's really weird that you asked a question to nobody in particular, a question puts djag in a negative light, except when I pressure you on it you're just talking to yourself? and you don't know if you're scum reading him yet you plan to do a write-up on him? | ||
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it was a tense moment. i didn't even realize that a tie meant no lynch until right before the deadline. i had reasons to think both leading candidates were scum, and I had reasons to think both candidates were town. if you were to ask me my thoughts for each minute leading up to the lynch I probably would have given you a different answer, that's how crazy things were. on top of that there was vivax who started derailing the conversation by calling me mafia for the most retarted reasons so I I also i to devote some energy to dealing with that. AND he brought up some points that countered everything I was thinking, and I slowly began to see things his way. so votes are at 4-4 which means no lynch. i have no fukn clue who to vote for and people on both sides of the fence are acting so damn confident about their read. but if I kept my vote on cavalinho that means we no lynch and I didn't want that. at that exact moment in time I could have listed tons of reasons why I thought both of them were town, and tons of reaons for the opposite. if i seemed to have swtiched back and forth easily, that's just proof of how conflicted I was. and the icing on the cake is that i didn't feel like either of them were trying very hard. neither of them were really being that townie before the deadline, but i didn't think it was likley that both were scum, so I was really confused. thjat's why i said things didn't feel right. so really, there are tons of reasons why i did what I did. it's not so black and white as you're making it. Now what are you suggesting is my mafia agenda? Say cavlin is scum. votes are at 4-4, with my vote on cavalin. i switch to FT. Do you really think that scum would make such a risky play? Assuming that cavalinho and i are scum, it's obvious that I'm going to look super shitty fort swinging the lynch onto the townie. Hell, cavalinho hasn't even flipped and people are still making the association read. Do you really think that that's what I'd do if I was scum? There were more people in the thread who were ok with lynch FT than there were with lynching cavalina. I could have just left my vote on cavalin, and he probably would have been saved becasue town would either have no-lynched, or people would have moved onto FT to avoid the no lynch. The momentum was definitely moving towards a FT lynch over a no lynch, do you think that scum thrawn would be the one to risk his neck by beaing the first person to vote for the townie FT? That's just ridiculous. You're suggesting that I literally made the worst, and most obvious move a scum player ever could have made in that situation. And if cavalinho is town then your case completely falls apart. this has been a pretty honest post, I feel like I've really opened up and explained exactly how I felt about the lynch. if anyone still wants to have this ridiculous conversation then that's too bad, I'll only entertain it if cavalinho flips scum (which tbh i am sorta thinking he might and that's frustrating as fuck) | ||
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On April 18 2014 02:16 OneThousandWords wrote: It's ok Thrawn, I think everything will resolve itself tomorrow  Also, what has ObviousOne done all game? He has only pushed mderg AFAIK and that is the person who was attacking the claimed vig. I made the assumption that no sane scum would do that, so why has ObviousOne made the opposite conclusion and why is that pretty much his only contribution? He practically refrains from being a part of the Cav/Tofu lynch. can you explain the bolded part? | ||
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On April 18 2014 17:47 Skanjab1s wrote: I was roleblocked. Still catching up, I'm about 10 pages behind. are you vig? answer now plz | ||
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i really doubt that skan is lying about the roleblock as either alignment. that's the kind of shit you just don't ever lie about. pretend skan is town. during the night he comes in and votes for firmtofu and is apparently compleltely clueless to the fact that FT has already been lynched. why would scum be scared of this guy? why the hell would they roleblock him? are they scared that he's going to shoot the already dead firmtofu? are they scared that maybe he has secret OP reads? i doubt it. if I wee scum, reading a town skan's night posts, I would just laugh and let this poor vig take his shot. so there are 2 claimed roleblocks, both are probably true. considering that we already have 1 vonfimred blue (djag) and a semi confirmed blue (OE) scum probably has their own roleblock. djag was honey anus. i think it's pretty likely that he tried used his jk defensively and tried to save koshi. if he used it offensively he would have roleblocked me or cavalinho. so that means the scum roleblock went to skan. but as i've laready pointed out, it doesn't make sense for scum to rb skan. that's why i think he';s full of shit. scum just roleblocked one of their own to give him town cred. it happenes all the time. they probably didn't know there was a real vig since OE didn't counter claim. so maybe they were also trying to give him an excuse to not have been able to shoot anyone. | ||
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On April 18 2014 18:27 Koshi wrote: Now* Also somewhere in start I accidently said I was vig. If you read closely. I will quote it later. Maybe in razy universe I got 2 rb. how could you have been roleblocked twice? skan claimed rb. you think he cuold be lying? | ||
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On April 18 2014 18:30 Koshi wrote: If he is scum and I claim rb and he knows I got rb he can fakeclaim rb. I dnu. I dont want to lynch skan for this obviously but it is probably going to happen unless he starts playing. do you care who gets lynched? it doesn't sound like it from this post | ||
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On April 18 2014 18:36 Koshi wrote: I posted a list in night. I still stand by that list. Omni just became confirmed town. On April 18 2014 06:53 Koshi wrote: ObviousOne Skanjab1s mderg OneThousandWords Kush Vivax thrawn I would lynch in this order I guess. The guys on the bottom should die though. The guys on top are hopefully blues or confirmed by blues. Koshi out! You say you would lynch in this order. cavalin is dead. so skan would be your 2nd lynch choice right now if you do in fact still stand by this list. so why am I getting the impression that you think he's town? | ||
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On April 18 2014 18:51 Koshi wrote: If it is otw town and skanjab scum this game was so bad from me. Rofl. rbh u jubda think otw is tionw | ||
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On April 18 2014 19:25 Koshi wrote: Like... What is the best nk when thrawn is town??? I thought kush was gonna die. because of how strongly he was town readining me. idk. all i know is that all the night actions worked in my favor lmao and I am glad for it. | ||
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OO >> scum skan >> probably scum 3rd scum is hiding from me. probably OTW even though I don't feel that he's all that scummy. I want him to explain this: On April 18 2014 02:16 OneThousandWords wrote: It's ok Thrawn, I think everything will resolve itself tomorrow | ||
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On April 20 2014 06:52 OneThousandWords wrote: It does not matter anymore because Cavalinho has died, however, his death is not without some benefit. This now means that everything I've been thinking about (you/cav/x as mafia) is very wrong, so I apologise for the tunnel. I honestly thought I was onto something with my last case. As for today, ObviousOne's contributions have been verbose ways to say he wants to lynch someone who is afk which is not the contribution I was looking for after not much participation on day 1. ##vote ObviousOne Unfortunately I will not be present for the rest of the weekend, however, my activity will be much better from then on. I would still like to hear from Skanjab1s regarding his vigilante claim into afking though. so why di you spend all your time tunneling me when it only made sense to call me scum if cavalinho was scum? and please explain what you meant even tho cavalinho is dead. i would stil like to know | ||
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On April 21 2014 10:46 OneThousandWords wrote: Well I've never rolled scum in all 2 of the forum mafia games I've played so that's a start! Can someone explain the vivax lynch because he looks really towny from his filter and koshi brought up that he was scum based on one really small point and seems to be super certain of it all of a sudden. I still don't understand because he never elaborated. what has vivax done this game? the only memorable thing was loudly protesting the cavalinho lynch. | ||
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On April 22 2014 08:01 OmniEulogy wrote: Anyway I took the above as meaning if Kush was town but I'm just making sure as it could also be interpreted as it was something you couldn't do because you aren't town. It drew a flag but I ignored it as I had you as town and I still do but I just want to make sure that I read this in particular correctly. yes you read it right. On April 22 2014 10:10 Vivax wrote: I'm voting Skanja and going to bed. If you really have to flip me before the liar, you know what to do afterwards. Lynch him and either kush or mderg, I'm still not sure on the both of them. posts like this are why i want to lynch vivax. so from a town vivax's point of view, this would be the best he can come up with? i don't buy it. The first major problem is that vivax isn't considering OTW as possible scum. He's not worried about OTW's alignment at all. In fact he hasn't mentioned OTW since D1. This doesn't have mean anything regarding OTW's alignment, my point is that vivax is not considering all possible suspects. I really really hate this post: On April 21 2014 14:47 Vivax wrote: This doesn't make any sense and doesn't align with anything I've seen you doing in the last game where you were town. I claimed miller at the start of D1 and you went "I'll treat it as null cause Vivax has history of ballsy claims as scum". When skanja fakeclaims you see it as townie. You really gotta explain HOW in the world a dude fakeclaiming gets any town points for it, and it better be a good explanation. This game must not end up like British Empire II, or that last game on OMGUS. It's at danger of becoming another epithome of stupidity. British: Dandel trolls all game long and goes unnoticed for too long. On Omgus Alakaslam doesn't do shit all game long except jump on townie wagons and post his usual rubbish and I get lynched (by thrawn and kush) instead of him after claiming miller and we lose the game. And I was always there talking to a wall cause people just prefer to adher to a complex version of events where they end up making up by themselves why a townie is scum and a troll is town. In summary, we should lynch Skanja to not repeat the same mistake other stupid towns did, and figure out who the last scum is. And it's one of mderg or kush. If it's anyone outside of them they deserve to win. BE II and the omgus toy story game have nothing to do with skan's alignment. Here Vivax is appealing to the emotions of the people who lost BEII/TSM. So why is vivax voting for skan today? He doesn't have many reasons besides skan's fakeclaim. If Vivax is so sure about skan being scum as he wants us to think he is, I'd expect him to be able to walk us through skan's filter and show us why it's scummy. Even if vivax and skan were both town, if vivax was as sure as he seemes to be, his conf bias would take over and he would interpret everything skan does as scummy and be able to explain it to us. Or if vivax is town and skan is scum then he would have more to say than "lol lynch fakeclaimer." The last thing that doesn't make sense from a town vivax's perspective is how he claims to be so unsure about mderg and kush. On April 22 2014 10:10 Vivax wrote: I'm voting Skanja and going to bed. If you really have to flip me before the liar, you know what to do afterwards. Lynch him and either kush or mderg, I'm still not sure on the both of them. Vixax is not this bad and if he were town he'd be able to see how obviously townie kush is. I don't believe for a second that from a town vivax perspective, he'd have any trouble figuring out that kush is townier than mderg. And again, why not OTW? Why does his 3rd scum option have to be between kush and mderg? tldr: the town vivax perspective doesn't make any sense | ||
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On April 22 2014 07:41 kushm4sta wrote: looking into mderg now. what is your townread based on? dont really have a town read, it's more of a null read. i see that he's sorta scummy but there's nothing huge that I think he should be lynched for | ||
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and what scumhunting has vivax done besides that weak ass stuff on you? they could both be scum tho. so idk how muich i care yet. i'll do due diligence on mderg's filter and decide. what do you think about OTW? compared to vivax? who is scummier? | ||
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so does this guy On April 22 2014 09:04 mderg wrote: I really don´t get why people want to lynch Vivax. I´m clearly reading him as town. I mean he was strongly against lynching cav who we now know was town. He was pretty much all over the place while still pushing his scumreads, for me that´s pretty townie. He was also one of the first guys to push OO who turned out to be scum and now he wants to lynch skan which I 100% agree with. Honestly, to me Vivax doesn´t seem scummy at all. It feels as if someone just randomly said he was scummy and suddenly everyone agreed despite reading him as town beforehand. I´m still very much for lynching skan, maybe I´m focusing on him too much, but I really can´t see any reason why he would be town. yet you dont read him as town, so try again why is OTW so townie? | ||
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i'm not sold on mderg being mafia yet. why is he mafia again? | ||
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what are you thinking about right now? how do you predict this lynch going, who's going to be lynched and what will they flip? what read are you most unsure about and why? | ||
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you think skan is scum...... why? because he voted after deadline? and you think mderg is scum because you think he was bussing skan? ok lol..... | ||
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because I think after your recent posts that you are town. that makes it way more likely that mderg is scum. And this is probably what tipped me over into the mderg scum camp On April 23 2014 07:18 OneThousandWords wrote: He's agreed with me on vivax and slight kush suspicion all day but when it starts looking bad somehow out of the blue he comes around to me looking scummy. it does sorta look like he'sthrowing out reads according to thread sentiment | ||
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On April 23 2014 07:28 mderg wrote: I´m not throwing out reads according to thread sentiment. Definitely not. why aren't you participating in discussion? | ||
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On April 23 2014 07:33 mderg wrote: I´m not? I´m giving my opinion on everything I can. I mean the last page hasn´t even been a real discussion, just OTW posting his reasons for voting me, you agreeing with him on that and kush is just saying: yeah, let´s lynch mderg or something. How am I supposed to discuss that? that's not it. otw posted content. kush and i both made posts about the content that otw posted. otw responded. we responded back. you sit there doing nothing during all of that. do you think that we should be townreading you? do you think you look townie? | ||
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On April 23 2014 07:45 Vivax wrote: Mderg I think the reasons skanja gave us for suspecting FT are legit, I would have suspected FT myself for the same reasons. There's just this doubt nagging at the back of my head that he's pro scum and made up that mistake on purpose but for today I'm not lynching him cause I liked our conversation. Also checking his games he never rolled scum in the 4 or 5 of them. FT so-hosted a game where skanja was town so there's that, confirmed truthful argument. And neither might I be lynching Kush IF HE EXPLAINS WHY HE SUDDENLY TOWNREADS ME. Cause in my experience scumkush doesn't townread his main scumread out of the blue, he didn't in Dr Who, but I want to know if it's serious and has a reason, cause else I'll just assume it was bullshitting. I townread you for other reasons, but now I'm not so sure if they're valid anymore cause there's you and mderg, and maybe kush left as possible scum. That post was just a way of copying what kush did and see how thrawn reacts. Conclusion drawn: Tunneled as fuck, put on ignore. The "angry lines" were me thinking it was deadline day already. Tired gaming. Now that you're at this I would like you to tell me what was questionable about my posts, and have a chat about it with kush to see why you get to different conclusions. i'm not sure if I understood this. but are you saying skan is town? | ||
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On April 21 2014 12:07 Koshi wrote: If Vivax was town he would have pushed this harder after OO talked about it. Like OO hasn't got enough balls to go against a town Vivax like this. I do not believe. On April 21 2014 12:09 Koshi wrote: Sorry but OO made Vivax his bitch. Look at the entire conversation chain. Vivax nails OO and OO is able to smooth talk out of it by doing some scumhunting? I do not believe. | ||
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On April 23 2014 07:45 Vivax wrote: Mderg I think the reasons skanja gave us for suspecting FT are legit, I would have suspected FT myself for the same reasons. There's just this doubt nagging at the back of my head that he's pro scum and made up that mistake on purpose but for today I'm not lynching him cause I liked our conversation. Also checking his games he never rolled scum in the 4 or 5 of them. FT so-hosted a game where skanja was town so there's that, confirmed truthful argument. And neither might I be lynching Kush IF HE EXPLAINS WHY HE SUDDENLY TOWNREADS ME. Cause in my experience scumkush doesn't townread his main scumread out of the blue, he didn't in Dr Who, but I want to know if it's serious and has a reason, cause else I'll just assume it was bullshitting. I townread you for other reasons, but now I'm not so sure if they're valid anymore cause there's you and mderg, and maybe kush left as possible scum. That post was just a way of copying what kush did and see how thrawn reacts. Conclusion drawn: Tunneled as fuck, put on ignore. The "angry lines" were me thinking it was deadline day already. Tired gaming. Now that you're at this I would like you to tell me what was questionable about my posts, and have a chat about it with kush to see why you get to different conclusions. VIVAX wtf does this post mean? | ||
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OTW you better put more work in before the lynch. we haven't seen enough of you yet. | ||
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On April 23 2014 07:45 Vivax wrote: Mderg I think the reasons skanja gave us for suspecting FT are legit, I would have suspected FT myself for the same reasons. There's just this doubt nagging at the back of my head that he's pro scum and made up that mistake on purpose but for today I'm not lynching him cause I liked our conversation. Also checking his games he never rolled scum in the 4 or 5 of them. FT so-hosted a game where skanja was town so there's that, confirmed truthful argument. And neither might I be lynching Kush IF HE EXPLAINS WHY HE SUDDENLY TOWNREADS ME. Cause in my experience scumkush doesn't townread his main scumread out of the blue, he didn't in Dr Who, but I want to know if it's serious and has a reason, cause else I'll just assume it was bullshitting. I townread you for other reasons, but now I'm not so sure if they're valid anymore cause there's you and mderg, and maybe kush left as possible scum. That post was just a way of copying what kush did and see how thrawn reacts. Conclusion drawn: Tunneled as fuck, put on ignore. The "angry lines" were me thinking it was deadline day already. Tired gaming. Now that you're at this I would like you to tell me what was questionable about my posts, and have a chat about it with kush to see why you get to different conclusions. vivax completely changes his mind about skan. says he's not going to lynch skan says that he's going to vote for kush unless kush answers vivax's questions. kush doesn't answer the questions so what does vivax do? he keeps his vote on skan lmao | ||
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so please lynch him next cycle no matter what. idc how persuasive he is. | ||
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On April 23 2014 08:14 Vivax wrote: The judgment for today is: We lynch mderg, kush or OTW, and if we didn't win by then we lynch skanja. Will decide after I talked to them a bit, if kush doesn't answer my questions my vote and my wrath ends up on him for his reads on me. Vivax: 1. Why did you keep your vote on skan after deciding not to lynch him? 2. Why didn't you follow through with talking to kush? | ||
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but yeah, if skan is scum then scum probably roleblocked him. because the town rb (from jk djag) probably went to save koshi. i think it's a fact that scum rb'd skan on N1. the onyl question is why | ||
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On April 23 2014 23:15 kushm4sta wrote: why are you townreading skan, thrawn? the answer is liek two posts above yours but idk if i still am. i haven't reread anything since the flip | ||
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dont think you're scum. i don't really wanna tell you why tho, for future games so all the scum are in skan, OTW, vivax, so we just need to find the townie in that group. shouldn't be too hard but it is | ||
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On April 23 2014 12:50 thrawn2112 wrote: the only reason i'm worried is the possibilty of mderg being town and vivax being scum. because then vivax shoots me during the night and leads the mislynch on kush next cycle have fun kush | ||
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On April 23 2014 23:49 kushm4sta wrote: THRAWN FOR THE SAKE OF TEH GAME YOU MUST SHARE YOUR SECRET KUSH TELL smb mafia On January 18 2014 07:50 kushm4sta wrote: hold me thrawn this game On April 18 2014 13:12 kushm4sta wrote: hold me thrawn both posts made under similar circumstances. imagine kush sitting there reading the screen and was unable to believe what he's seeing. his whole life is a lie. his vision becomes blurry but he wipes away the tears, and types out a cry of distress and a plea for help adressed to the only person in the game at that moment who reads him perfectly and understands his inner turmoil. he probably shat his pants in both situation., his hands were sweaty, and the weed paranoia was threatening to overcome what little was left of his mind. | ||
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