EPTLast time I played, I called out 2/3 scumbags at the end of day 2. Let's see if I lost my sharpness or not.
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Last time I played, I called out 2/3 scumbags at the end of day 2. Let's see if I lost my sharpness or not. | ||
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On April 15 2014 17:50 OmniEulogy wrote: I'm eating my breakfast man, can't start scum hunting before a good nutritious and balanced meal entirely composed of poptarts and eggo waffles. That being said of course I'm interested if you also have the spirit of the great maximus black and nova war instilled in you. He's claiming that he has the spirit of the great maximus black and novawar instilled in himself. I don't think so. This is fucking Mafia by the way. It's not about stopping cheesers or some weird shit. It's Hunter the Reckoning style. | ||
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WTF is a robik? On April 15 2014 18:03 Koshi wrote: Are you scumslipping I am town or am I not reading this propperly? It definitely is a scumslip. On April 15 2014 18:49 Koshi wrote: How do you discribe your scum play and your town play? Good point. Can everyone tell his town play and scum play? I can define my town play but I can't define my scum play (because I have never played scum in any mafia game. In fact, this is my second mafia game and I was a townie in the first). My town play is really stalk heavy. I watch all of you. All of you, when you post, when you sleep, when you work, when you eat. I might come out of nowhere with random people to lynch for random reasons. They did come out true though. I would define my town play as systematic instead of impulsive, I don't care about collateral damage, sharp and decisive over overly cautious. I think the game was Normal Mini Mafia XIII (The game had marvellosity, Chezinu and talismania as scum; Palmar, VisceraEyes, me, Shady Sands and some other people I don't remember as town. I called Chezinu and talismania right at the end of day 2, I could call out marvellosity but I tunnel visioned and lost my sharpness day 4.). If you dare to investigate any further, you will find that I'm telling you the truth. If your scum play is passive and town play is spammy, then I can pretty much say that you're a scumbag who is trying to masquerade amongst the town folk. This will not get you out of your gehenna though. Come on, vampires who break masquerade are eliminated even by other vampires. The only reason you're living right now is because there was no lynch-night kill. | ||
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On April 15 2014 20:15 Skanjab1s wrote: No, I don't, he's a townie through and through. Do you think he's scum? And I see no reason to think YOU are a townie. | ||
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On April 15 2014 20:25 Koshi wrote: I am awaiting his response first. It was as scumslip as "100%" | ||
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On April 15 2014 20:29 Koshi wrote: I don't see what you are seeing tbh. I can guess somewhere what you are thinking but it kinda thin. We will see. You have no idea what I'm thinking lol. | ||
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On April 15 2014 20:45 OmniEulogy wrote: weak pressure on Skan on an association based on his first post and riding Koshi's tail seems to be what you're doing though  what that means you are thinking though no clue... *omg and easy way to seem like I'm doing something productive for town!* perhaps?I actually AM doing something productive for town. Luring people into a sophisticated discussion, trying to make the game a high-post game instead of a low-post one that would be good for scumbags. You can't say it didn't work, can you? Especially considering the fact that you jumped right in. | ||
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On April 15 2014 21:06 OmniEulogy wrote: what? didn't you just join on Koshi's discussion? And then I really want to make people realize you tried to make an association case on Skan for his second post... yeah... you're totally up for sophisticated discussion as long as it involves shutting down everybody with an opinion that doesn't match yours by labeling them scum immediately =/ I'm not against the method I'm against how you do it. "I label people whose opinions don't match me as scum, right on" so you say. And you're not against the method and you're against how I do it. First of all, what do you think the method is? If you answer the question correct, then I'll ask you a second question. Scum slips are sometimes so simple as a "100%". Shit like this happened in one of the games, guy turned out as scum. Guy took 4 townies all by himself before they actually realized. | ||
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On April 15 2014 21:29 kushm4sta wrote: Koshi, true or false? Skans claim almost never is coming from scum. Claiming that someone is townie through and through and showing no reason about that claim and dodging every single question about his reasoning almost never is coming from scum? He might or might not be a townie, but his behaviors just don't help town at all. | ||
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On April 15 2014 21:06 OmniEulogy wrote: what? didn't you just join on Koshi's discussion? And then I really want to make people realize you tried to make an association case on Skan for his second post... yeah... you're totally up for sophisticated discussion as long as it involves shutting down everybody with an opinion that doesn't match yours by labeling them scum immediately =/ I'm not against the method I'm against how you do it. EBWOP: If Koshi tries to do shit that benefits town, of course I will join on Koshi's discussion. If it was you instead of Koshi, I would join on your discussion instead of Koshi's. | ||
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On April 15 2014 21:42 OneThousandWords wrote: Djagulingu, you describe your town play as: In this game you have already called 2 people scum for supposed scum slips. Am I to assume that you have now 180° on your own meta so quickly? This doesn't look very systematic to me, it looks like the complete opposite. You jump on people and call them scum without much basis and state that you are helping the town by making a pro-town atmosphere of sophisticated discussion when, instead, you are steering people in a very specific direction on a point of view that seems entirely skewed on pushing an agenda. You would understand if you have read Hunter Book: Wayward. But I like your sharpness. You're like Peleus in that book. This is how God45 defines Peleus: And so I found him. The prodigal problem child. Alleyman. Peleus. The sniper was a little resitant to my ideas. That's understandable. I was actually pleased that he didn't take to them so quickly. Enlightenment shouldn't come immediately. It took me a long time to discover the truth. We can't all be Paul on the road to Damascus. He had the methods down. He's messy and he leaves too much of himself behind, but he's efficient. His numbers are great. And I appreciate his attitude toward others of our kind. He won't tolerate their whiny, backstabbing bullshit. Their opinions are threefold- they can help, they can get out of the way or they try to find their way out of a body bag. He doesn't know the words for it yet, but somewhere in there he knows that if you're not curing the cancer, you are the cancer. There's no in between. | ||
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On April 15 2014 22:24 Koshi wrote: Or super duper townreads? I read town on OneThousandWords | ||
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On April 15 2014 23:59 OmniEulogy wrote: I think Djag's thinking on that is pretty similar to my own. OTW has made decent points based on what people have said so far + Show Spoiler + On April 15 2014 21:42 OneThousandWords wrote: Djagulingu, you describe your town play as: In this game you have already called 2 people scum for supposed scum slips. Am I to assume that you have now 180° on your own meta so quickly? This doesn't look very systematic to me, it looks like the complete opposite. You jump on people and call them scum without much basis and state that you are helping the town by making a pro-town atmosphere of sophisticated discussion when, instead, you are steering people in a very specific direction on a point of view that seems entirely skewed on pushing an agenda. + Show Spoiler + On April 15 2014 22:19 OneThousandWords wrote: No, it's about the fact that I think he is town for when he claimed and how he did it and all situations point to it being beneficial for town but then you determine that there is likely a mafia motive behind the play and talk about mafia gambling plays, which I think at this point is crazy. I find it hard to call him scummy with posts like this although it's too early for me to call him town either for lack of anything substantial. Djag did say something that irked me a bit as I try to avoid this very thing in every game I've played but "I can define my town play but I can't define my scum play (because I have never played scum in any mafia game. In fact, this is my second mafia game and I was a townie in the first)." I can see him sticking OTW as town immediately for the above two reasons even though OTW is pressuring Djag as he does it. 1- Did you play any mafia game as a scum? 2- If your answer to the 1st question is no, can you tell me how you define your scum meta? | ||
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Talking about my own self-meta: I'm still as systematic, calm and careful as I described. I just didn't describe my "system". | ||
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On April 16 2014 01:38 Koshi wrote: You must have missed his pretty hard "I played 1 game and caught all scum" post then. The irky feeling was the soft newbie claim? It was actually 2/3. Both were pretty obvious :D lurking, bandwagoning, not helping town at all. Obvious scum tells, consistent for all 4 game days. | ||
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On April 16 2014 02:34 OmniEulogy wrote: I noticed, why else would it bother me that he starts going back to being so inexperienced when it suits him? you contradict yourself with those two sentences if you are getting on my case about being irked by the soft newbie claim. If you are asking just for clarification though then yes, to repeat myself for you it does. I filtered myself and looked at every single post of mine and I don't see where I "go back to being so inexperienced when it suits me". On April 12 2014 21:10 Djagulingu wrote: EBWOP: OMG I have to remember not to edit. This post comes the closest and it was a considerable time before role pms were distributed. Can you please explain how you got that impression? | ||
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1- You're an inexperienced townie (yes, even more inexperienced than me) and you don't notice the amount of people lurking and not contributing 2- You're a good scumbag who loves to keep the attention on a single person so that your scum friends go under the radar. | ||
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On April 16 2014 03:43 kushm4sta wrote: that's a bad question Why is it? | ||
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On April 16 2014 04:19 OmniEulogy wrote: Koshi's nickname could be Joe Biden so far this game and Djag dodged a valid question by OTW by telling him to go read a book. I tried for ya kush lol I didn't dodge a valid question. On April 15 2014 22:38 Djagulingu wrote: You would understand if you have read Hunter Book: Wayward. But I like your sharpness. You're like Peleus in that book. This is how God45 defines Peleus: I said that I see him as a townie here and then: On April 16 2014 00:30 Djagulingu wrote: EBWOP: As I have never played a single game as a scum, I can't define my scum play. I would probably just play survival until having enough numbers. To explain this in one word: Masquerade. Talking about my own self-meta: I'm still as systematic, calm and careful as I described. I just didn't describe my "system". You might not think that I'm as systematic as I told, but I think I'm calm and careful, just as I described. | ||
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On April 16 2014 14:26 ObviousOne wrote: Djag, what's up with throwing the words scum slip around and being 100% sure? How can you be 100% sure of anything on day 1? It's cool that you want to boast your success in the past, but I'm not seeing the part where you successfully lure people into discussion with anything but your own tactics (aka discussing yourself). The easiest way to create a shitstorm in the thread is doing stupid shit and waiting for people to react. Then scumbags start farming that shitstorm and you got your scumbags. | ||
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On April 16 2014 15:52 thrawn2112 wrote: lets lynch mderg Do you have a reason for lynching mderg? Or is it just a random lynch idea that you came up with? If it is the latter, I suggest lynching Cavalinho. | ||
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My guess of your reason is: "He might be scum or town or whatever. His presence benefits scum more than town". | ||
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On April 16 2014 16:20 thrawn2112 wrote: No. He made a huge post that doesn't contribute anything. He didn't say a single thing that is relevant to the lynch. It's even worse than no scumreads, there are no reads of any kind. He argued his points without giving any indication that he was forming reads based off of the things he was arguing against. You say he's banking on the fact that such long posts with no content can help you stay under the radar for some time? | ||
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On April 16 2014 16:27 thrawn2112 wrote: and people who aren't trying to solve the game usually aren't townies Indeed. If you don't cure the cancer, you ARE the cancer. | ||
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On April 16 2014 16:31 thrawn2112 wrote: sooo... what are you saying? that you agree? Cavalinho was higher priority, but mderg was definitely up there. | ||
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On April 16 2014 17:16 thrawn2112 wrote: Now I'm confused. I thought you wanted to lynch omni? And am I interpreting your above post correctly, that you think cav is a better lynch than mderg? Why are you so willing to swtich when you have stronger scum reads? Even when I was hard pressuring omni, he was not on a higher priority than anybody that wasn't contributing to the thread. My initial plan was to use someone as a bait, make him the focus of the thread and lynch one of the lurkers. Omni is actually at #4 after cavalinho, mderg and alakaslam. | ||
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1- He's still on my #2. 2- Lynching my #2 is better than a no lynch. 3- As this is a plurality lynch game, I'll vote for whoever gets highest amount of votes between mderg and cavalinho. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RtgcjKg.jpg) This makes me suspicious. OE definitely looked more scummy than Koshi/kush/skan/OO/mderg/OTW. I say: Vivax is town. He really is. Thrawn and OE playing on Vivax while cavalinho is defending, they are trying to make it look like Vivax is cavalinho's teammate as scum. This is a 9-3 town to scum situation, with FT gone, it is now 8-3, let's say it's 7-3 with the lynch. Imo if we lynch Vivax next, we go into 5-3 LYLO. I say we Vigishot OE and RB thrawn. Then we lynch cavalinho (he will probably end up standard red with no qualities). | ||
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On April 17 2014 15:37 Koshi wrote: Meh town. It was totes 50/50 I guess.. At leat from where I left. Hopefully some good stuff happened. I wont be around for multiple hours. Will read later. If there is somebody who doesnt know what to do. Trow me a list of 3 vig targets 3 doc 3 cop with reasoning. My 3 Vig targets are thrawn, OE and Cavalinho. Reasoning: They are all my primary scum reads right now. We can lynch cavalinho though, he looks to be a no-role scum. | ||
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Is that all you say? Really? All you gotta say is a "wtf"? | ||
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On April 17 2014 15:55 thrawn2112 wrote: why do you get the impression I want to lynch vivax? he's one of my stronger town reads right now You read Cavalinho as town too. | ||
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On April 17 2014 16:03 thrawn2112 wrote: So I'm mafia because I disagree with your cavalinho read? Is that it? You disagree with almost everyone's cavalinho read. | ||
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On April 17 2014 12:56 thrawn2112 wrote: ok time for a bible lesson there's this king or something two bitches bitch #1's baby dies. bitch #1 steals bitch #2's baby. they go before the king to let him decide what to do. he decides to chop baby in half so they can each have part of it. scummy bitch #1 says ok. townie bitch #2 says no and has emotional outburst. king realizes that btich #1 is the liar. in this game FT is acting like B #1 by saying that he's fine with himself being lynched instead of a no lynch. he's splitting the difference, he's compromising and agreeing to something that he shouldn't, if he is town. and cavalin is B #2 for being more emotional than FT Lol. Mafia isn't a game of emotions. Going emotional and asking for NL doesn't make Cavalinho a townie. FT's martyrdom though.. Martyrdom is a townie move. It's like you're intentionally reading wrong. Just like every green townie, he preferred himself to get lynched instead of an NL. | ||
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On April 17 2014 16:09 thrawn2112 wrote: that makes me mafia? why? what's my mafia motivation for disagreeing with everyone's cavalinho read? Set up a LYLO? | ||
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Thanks. You too. | ||
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On April 17 2014 16:19 thrawn2112 wrote: Really tho, be honest. do you think that's what I'm doing? do you think that i've had the entire game planned out since before the Day 1 lynch? that I've manipulated everyone into being suspicious of just that right people so that FT, a townie gets lynched D1, and then whatever the fuck you described happens to bring us to a lylo? you really think that I'm capable of doing that? And what you're saying I'm trying to do doesn't even line up with what I'm doing. You said that part of my master plan is to lynch vivax, yet I don't want to lynch vivax. I think he's town! So this grand plan you've thought up doesn't even make sense. No. The 'grand scheme of master plans', as you call my way of reading your agenda, involved bandwagoning onto a d1 lynch that was as logical as it would get, and then give its credit to a person and lynch him next. Easy LYLO in a mini setup. | ||
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I don't know. There are too many scums for me to know who is a townie. Cavalinho 's filter is so scummy that scum would push a lynch for him if he wasn't among them. Thrawn too. All he tries to do is to try and confuse people by posting different town reads every 6 hours or shit, hiding his scum teammates in either some or all or none of them. I can't guess. Everytime I see myself on his list of town reads I reread my role PM to see if I'm actually a townie. I'm not sure about the 3rd scum though. OO and OE are definitely up there. 1. thrawn2112 2. Vivax 3. OmniEulogy 4. Cavalinho 5. mderg 6. ObviousOne 7. kushm4sta 8. Djagulingu 9. OneThousandWords 11. Skanjab1s 12. Koshi Among all these people, all I know is I'm a townie, you're a townie and kush is a townie. Not sure: Skan, OTW, mderg, vivax, OO, OE. Scum: Thrawn, Cavalinho (with OO and OE definitely up there). | ||
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And if our doc tries to protect our DT and our DT tries to get a check, he gets RB'd too. | ||
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On April 17 2014 21:50 Koshi wrote: He still isn't scum though. You know something? | ||
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On April 17 2014 22:15 thrawn2112 wrote: lol. i think i already have a larger filter here than I had in my most active scum game You are like scum Chezinu. In the face with whatever you got and people still don't push a lynch for you. DAMN why am I not the vig? | ||
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On April 17 2014 22:47 kushm4sta wrote: you noobs should just shut your mouths and respect your mafia elders. thrawn is town. case closed. even if cava was confirmed scum, thrawn is still town. a lot of us have played many games with thrawn and he's never scum acting like how he's acting. So you say that I should just shut my mouth and respect you just because thrawn has not played this spammy and confusing and shit as a scum yet. Does that make even the smallest sense to you? You said he never played scum like this and never will. The part before 'and' can be true, I don't know about that. the part AFTER 'and' though, you can never be so sure. Respecting elders ha? Dude, I played a game with scum Chezinu and became a lynch target after I claimed that Chezinu was a scum. Guess what? He was scum TO THE BONE. Unless you come out with a case that is more persuasive, thrawn is a scumbag. | ||
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On April 17 2014 23:03 thrawn2112 wrote: djag you are trash at this game I want to be so good at this game. Just like you. Teach me. I want to be a scum that everybody protects. | ||
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On April 17 2014 23:10 Koshi wrote: now dick move analysis makes thrawn town as well. yay! WTF is up with Kush? And what is the reason of his blood bond to thrawn? | ||
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On April 17 2014 23:15 kushm4sta wrote: i think it's funny how much djangulu's arrogant noobness pisses thrawn off If he's that pissed off, he can just get his two scumbag friends and NK me. | ||
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On April 17 2014 23:28 thrawn2112 wrote: you think those post are indicative of a townie who is about to get mislynched? you weren't there, the situation was really tense because the votes were tied at 4 each and a tie means a no lynch. and i'm screaming at both of them trying to get them to say something useful. and all he can think to say is stuff like "I think voting me to break the tie would be better for us than no lynch at all." He said these things because mislynch day 1 actually IS better than no lynch day 1 for the town. | ||
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On April 17 2014 23:32 thrawn2112 wrote: you need to shut the fuck up. you didn't do shit all yesterday besides talk about how great you were in some other game and then make shitty fake plays that never amounted to anything. you were probably the most useless player on D1. and now you have the balls to be critical of my play? when I was the person who hjung out in the thread several hours leading up to the lynh to try and make town get its shit together? so many fucking people put their votes somewhere and then afk'd the rest of the day. but I stayed until the end, and even a bit after the end, trying to figure things out. if you were even halfway decent at this game you'd really how obvious it is that I'm one of the few people in this game who give a shit and are trying to get things done. Well, someone is going all out offensive (someone but me, I mean). "So many people put votes somewhere and then afk'd the rest of the day". That's fucking what you do if you're in the EU time zone with work to do next day and lynch is at 7AM. You are one of the few people that tries to get shit done? You mean, you're one of the few people that posted 0 scum reads? | ||
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On April 18 2014 01:50 kushm4sta wrote: CAV WHY YOU NO ANSWER YOU KEEP SAYING YOU GAVE THE REASONS WHY FT OVER MDERG I CANT FIND THEM Ok it's time for a bible lesson. In a town far far away, there was a man who would say: "I'm an evil you shall slay and bury the corpse under the clay" People thought his acts were play, so big the price they would pay He made his warning in his way, of the evil he would lay Evil came down the very next day Town tried to keep him right at bay Town could resist till third day All had suffered, none was okay They asked the man, he said "nay" "I warned you from three days away" "I want to ask you if I may" Why didn't you attend when I say" "You should've killed me on that day" "So that the evil would go away" | ||
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On April 18 2014 02:16 OneThousandWords wrote: It's ok Thrawn, I think everything will resolve itself tomorrow  Also, what has ObviousOne done all game? He has only pushed mderg AFAIK and that is the person who was attacking the claimed vig. I made the assumption that no sane scum would do that, so why has ObviousOne made the opposite conclusion and why is that pretty much his only contribution? He practically refrains from being a part of the Cav/Tofu lynch. OO looks so scummy to me. He just takes advantage of everything that has been happening. However I thought that scum worked as a team to accomplish stuff. If he's in the team, then either he's not following the team agenda or he is teamed up with two other players that have been lurking all around. Quite possibly he's a scum. If yes, I think he's of an important role. | ||
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