EPTwait you already have. long ago. in your scumqt with vivax.
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kushm4sta
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wait you already have. long ago. in your scumqt with vivax. | ||
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Skanjab1s
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Yeah. Guys, kush is definitely scum. He's never this confident as town, and now he is obviously try-harding as his scummate just got killed. Believe in me, I will guide us to victory. | ||
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kushm4sta
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Skanjab1s
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On April 26 2014 20:43 kushm4sta wrote: hilarious how opportunistic your change in scumreads has been, though Brilliant how you say this and give no back-up. Also, should I bring up how you had a mega-hard townread on me, until we got to lylo and vivax was looking like a good lynch candidate? So please, tell me how my change in scumreads has been opportunistic. I've had the same 3 people as scum, and all I've done is think you are more scummy than OTW recently. You're the one who has been doing 180's. First you think my vig claim makes me super town, then suddenly when it gets to a point where you can push a mislynch on me, it doesn't make sense from a town perspective? You think my scumreads are good when it's okay to say I'm town, but when I replace a much townier OTW with you, suddenly my change in scumreads is opportunistic? | ||
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kushm4sta
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From when you were townreading me before the flip to now, what has changed to make you scumread me?? | ||
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Skanjab1s
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On April 26 2014 21:23 kushm4sta wrote: well you said the scumteam was vivax, OTW. Now that I've townread OTW, you know that lynching OTW is not a possibility. So that's the real reason why your read on me has changed. From when you were townreading me before the flip to now, what has changed to make you scumread me?? I actually scumread you initially. Then I changed to a townread because I thought you were being more indecisive townkushlike. This has definitely changed with your confidence in the lynch, and your sudden tryhardiness. You /hard/ townread me, then suddenly changed for no reason. It's not like you found new things I did that you thought could be scummy, the things you said I was definitely town for suddenly became scummy. This is not a logical progression of a read. | ||
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Skanjab1s
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kushm4sta
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Your reason for scumreading me is based on an oversimplified meta that isn't even true as an oversimplification. | ||
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kushm4sta
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On April 26 2014 21:29 Skanjab1s wrote: OTW, omni please get in here and contribute LOL dude it's over. Omniand OTW can sit on their asscheeks and do nothing all day as long as they vote. | ||
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Skanjab1s
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On April 26 2014 21:40 kushm4sta wrote: the progression is this: i read your scummy contentless filter and after that I knew you were scum. Your reason for scumreading me is based on an oversimplified meta that isn't even true as an oversimplification. Your overconfidence and tryhardiness is completely true as your scum meta, and the change in your read of me, in the way you did it does not show a town thought process. That progression thing is a lie. You knew I didn't contribute much, I wasn't here half the game. You knew that before you changed your read on me. (OTW and Omni shouldn't just vote. They need to be here discussing this) | ||
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kushm4sta
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when i read your filter it's not just that you didn't have a lot of content, it's that the content you did have was so surface level and scummy. | ||
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Skanjab1s
748 Posts
On April 26 2014 21:57 kushm4sta wrote: what game is that meta from? when i read your filter it's not just that you didn't have a lot of content, it's that the content you did have was so surface level and scummy. In almost all your scumgames you don't have the same weird paranoid doubtfulness that you have as town. The tryhardiness isn't a meta thing, i meant that often scum try more when one of their buddies just died and they're in lylo. In what way was it scummy? Could you elaborate please | ||
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OmniEulogy
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On April 26 2014 21:42 kushm4sta wrote: LOL dude it's over. Omniand OTW can sit on their asscheeks and do nothing all day as long as they vote. I've never been in a game where after N1 it's literally just been going down a list crossing people off. It's kinda boring really lol I'm not lynching Kush if I survive the night though. Two other people who were confirmed town read him as being town. Unless Vivax has been bussing Kush from N1/D2 slowly (in which case well played) I don't see Kush as being scum. That being said... shit like this makes me worry. On April 22 2014 10:10 Vivax wrote: I'm voting Skanja and going to bed. If you really have to flip me before the liar, you know what to do afterwards. Lynch him and either kush or mderg, I'm still not sure on the both of them. I'd buy this as an attempt to bus Skan though. So it's possible that Vivax was trying to get Skan lynched to look better. idk. | ||
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Skanjab1s
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Here, I made a case against kush: First, his behavior before the mderg lynch: Firstly, he is okay with lynching vivax, this was when people were deciding between mderg and vivax to lynch: On April 22 2014 10:17 kushm4sta wrote: vivax is fine too i guess Then Vivax comes in and makes a single post and he's all: On April 23 2014 02:49 kushm4sta wrote: Dude vivax looks town as fuck Right after this, he launches into a full on bandwagon against mderg, pushing him really hard, taking all the attention off of vivax: On April 23 2014 03:01 kushm4sta wrote: I don't know anymore lol. All I know is mderg is scummy as fuck. Mderg is scummy like the sun is hot. On April 23 2014 03:04 kushm4sta wrote: And mderg, otw would not surprise me. On April 23 2014 05:41 kushm4sta wrote: MDERG MDERG MDERG MDERG On April 23 2014 07:23 kushm4sta wrote: ya i thikn mderg is best After this, he puts light pressure on vivax against to distance himself, and then straight away goes back to his mderg campaign: On April 23 2014 07:47 kushm4sta wrote: vivax guess what untownreading you On April 23 2014 08:40 kushm4sta wrote: just kill mderg Secondly, right after the mderg lynch, he knows that Vivax is next on the lynch list, so he suddenly completely changes his super-hard townread of me: On April 23 2014 23:20 kushm4sta wrote: Collection of Skanjab's scumhunting content + Show Spoiler + I agree with this, the entire post has nothing that's actually related to scumhunting in any way. Voting mderg. Talking about nothing to do with scumhunting, and focusing on unimportant things while still making a huge post to feign contribution is scummy. Thats why a scum mderg would do that. I'm totally fine with killing kush too, apart from the weird 'you two are town' thing, most of his questions just have very little point, and the answers to them wouldn't help him figure out the alignments of anyone, things like this: These questions just seem to be there to make it look like he's scumhunting, but really, none of these things would actually help him get a better read on anybody. He also seems to be tunneling Koshi pretty hard, and directing all of his questions to koshi, I'm not sure what to make of that for now. It's not much and it's not very hard for scum to make those arguments. On April 23 2014 23:31 kushm4sta wrote: It really angers me when people fake claim a pr... I'm thinking I should not be townreading skan. This next one is specially scummy, because earlier, he said: On April 18 2014 22:24 kushm4sta wrote: Mderg let's talk about skanjab. Always reminds me of skinjob which reminds me of handjob. Just saying. But anyway I am thinking he could be town and just fake claiming vig to soak up an rb or something. What do you have to say about that possibility? On April 20 2014 21:31 kushm4sta wrote: I think the fake claim itself leans town. I don't find his tone scummy. Now, suddenly as the lynch is between myself and Vivax, he goes into his hardcore tunnel mode, like with mderg, and randomly the claim is scummy now: On April 23 2014 23:40 kushm4sta wrote: im rereading and skan's content is so shit compared to OTW's. I'm not sure skan's claim makes sense from a town perspective. On April 25 2014 23:02 kushm4sta wrote: I think we should lynch skan. He has the least content.that is a pretty good indicator. In these quotes he implies that I have the least content and that makes me scummy, (1) He knows that I was away, so I wasn't going to have content regardless (2) If he's talking about actual usefulness, and not just postcount, then he is contradicting himself, as earlier he said that he likes the way I'm thinking about the scumteam: On April 21 2014 21:13 kushm4sta wrote: Skan I agree with you. See skan is the only one realistically thinking about the scum team. All the other possible scums are hinting at people like me because they know they need lynches outside the poe to win. Finally, his behavior after the Vivax lynch: On April 26 2014 13:25 kushm4sta wrote: now skan is the next lynch. He immediately tries to set me up the next lynch. This is something scum often do after they have lost a scumbuddy; they try to hastily set up lynches to recover the momentum of their loss. Now he's back into his hardcore tunnelling mode against me (remember, this was something that was present in his behavior around the cav (i think, i remember reading that somewhere but I haven't checked), mderg (when he tunneled mderg) and vivax (when he tunneled me) lynches. | ||
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kushm4sta
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just because i say "blank is scum" "blank is the next lynch" that does not respresent confidence in my reads as much as me just saying shit im thinking in the moment. I have been very unsure of my reads this game. but skan skipped over those posts. skan why are you reasonings scummy? because they are for shit like this. On April 25 2014 05:57 kushm4sta wrote: dont you think this is like too scummy to be scum? of course scum is not gonna do this because it's so obviously scummy. know what im saying? whereas town might be more inclined to do this simply because they dont have reads yet. vivax/ skan was obvious bus in circumspect. skan scumread vivax with shit reasoning. vivax scumread skan with shit reasoning. scum knew they had to bus or their motives would have been obvious as hell. oh and OE saying this game was boring... please man. You get into the game what you put into it. And you haven't put in shit. You vigged yourself into confirmed town and you have been hardcore sheeping the rest of the game. So it pisses me off when you say you are bored, because in actually it's you who is the boring one, not the game. Status of this game: we are waiting for OTW to come back and tell skanjab he is full of shit. | ||
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kushm4sta
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Your meta is 1 oversimplifcation and 2 totally fallacious. Show me a game that supports your meta read. | ||
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OmniEulogy
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I'm happy I upset you though  | ||
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kushm4sta
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Skanjab1s
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On April 27 2014 03:31 kushm4sta wrote: skan, this try hard is going to get you no where. save your energy and embrace the S word (the forbidden word and if you say it you get banned). just because i say "blank is scum" "blank is the next lynch" that does not respresent confidence in my reads as much as me just saying shit im thinking in the moment. I have been very unsure of my reads this game. but skan skipped over those posts. skan why are you reasonings scummy? because they are for shit like this. vivax/ skan was obvious bus in circumspect. skan scumread vivax with shit reasoning. vivax scumread skan with shit reasoning. scum knew they had to bus or their motives would have been obvious as hell. oh and OE saying this game was boring... please man. You get into the game what you put into it. And you haven't put in shit. You vigged yourself into confirmed town and you have been hardcore sheeping the rest of the game. So it pisses me off when you say you are bored, because in actually it's you who is the boring one, not the game. Status of this game: we are waiting for OTW to come back and tell skanjab he is full of shit. (1) There's a difference between once, just randomly saying "we should lynch this guy" and having a whole multitude of posts about killing them. (2) I scumread Vivax with shit reasoning? But kush, you said you liked my reasoning. You said "i am the only one thinking about the scumteam in a good way" Your contradictions are lovely, kush. | ||
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