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On April 26 2014 03:33 OneThousandWords wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2014 02:44 kushm4sta wrote:
OTW basically here is the situation. We have to figure out who is most likely scum out of Vivax, skanjab aka tweak, and yourself.
CAN YOU HELP?
What are your thoughts on the scumteam and who you want to lynch? Well I'm in an equally sticky situation seeing as I am in the same boat but your name instead of mine. However, I think I'd much rather stick to my gut that said you were town initially than to take everything I was saying about you for the past few days as scum indicative. Now that I look at it with some clarity (and thrawn, koshi and mderg being town etc) I can see someone being less involved in the game as town because they had town reads on a lot of the people and so the game becomes relatively simple at that point. Thus, my initial read would take precedence over you being scummy for not paying attention. I also read over the pages that I missed and your questioning of Skanjab1s seemed very natural and like you wanted him to answer so you could solve his alignment rather than asking questions for the sake of blending in. That leaves me with Skanjab1s, he made a post that triggered some alarm bells for me here: Show nested quote +On April 25 2014 05:35 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 25 2014 04:51 kushm4sta wrote:
hmm skan so why vivax over OTW? I thought he was pretty scummy before. His initial questioning of me felt like he was reaching for something to call me scum for, rather than actually having the townie mindset of genuinely thinking that i'm scum. I got a bit distracted and ended up sheeping you near the end of D1. Regardless I'm pretty sure the last two scum are vivax and OTW, unless you're scum, but thats just too damn confusing to think about right now. If there are 2 scum alive today and 5 people remain, then if he was town, he shouldn't be including something like this as if he is mistaken and the team was in fact me and you then the game would be over instantly. However, the way that it's worded is that if we lynch vivax today then he'd have to think about you tomorrow, implying there WOULD be another day to determine more alignments. His play overall has been severely lacking, he stated he wouldn't be around for a few days at the start of the game and so claimed vig, yet, he has returned several days ago and STILL done nothing of the sort of play that I'd imagine another towny to display, the only thing he has in fact done is answer questions to vivax and then failed in regards to answering your questions. When you asked if there were anymore questions that could be asked, it wasn't as if he was trying to solve your alignment or anyone elses but rather trying to prove his "alignment" instead.
I haven't actually returned really, I get the same amount of time to play as I did before, theres just much much less to read. I still only get a short while to play.
Also, if we lynch vivax today, and he flips scum like I think he will, then there WOULD be another day to determine more alignments, and to decide between you/kush. You're accusing me of doing the /exact/ same thing you just did at the beginning of your post, and the same thing kush is doing. (which is, deciding between the 3 of us which 2 are scum).
Kush, I don't know why you liked this post at all
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On April 26 2014 04:39 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2014 03:33 OneThousandWords wrote:On April 26 2014 02:44 kushm4sta wrote:
OTW basically here is the situation. We have to figure out who is most likely scum out of Vivax, skanjab aka tweak, and yourself.
CAN YOU HELP?
What are your thoughts on the scumteam and who you want to lynch? Well I'm in an equally sticky situation seeing as I am in the same boat but your name instead of mine. However, I think I'd much rather stick to my gut that said you were town initially than to take everything I was saying about you for the past few days as scum indicative. Now that I look at it with some clarity (and thrawn, koshi and mderg being town etc) I can see someone being less involved in the game as town because they had town reads on a lot of the people and so the game becomes relatively simple at that point. Thus, my initial read would take precedence over you being scummy for not paying attention. I also read over the pages that I missed and your questioning of Skanjab1s seemed very natural and like you wanted him to answer so you could solve his alignment rather than asking questions for the sake of blending in. That leaves me with Skanjab1s, he made a post that triggered some alarm bells for me here: On April 25 2014 05:35 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 25 2014 04:51 kushm4sta wrote:
hmm skan so why vivax over OTW? I thought he was pretty scummy before. His initial questioning of me felt like he was reaching for something to call me scum for, rather than actually having the townie mindset of genuinely thinking that i'm scum. I got a bit distracted and ended up sheeping you near the end of D1. Regardless I'm pretty sure the last two scum are vivax and OTW, unless you're scum, but thats just too damn confusing to think about right now. If there are 2 scum alive today and 5 people remain, then if he was town, he shouldn't be including something like this as if he is mistaken and the team was in fact me and you then the game would be over instantly. However, the way that it's worded is that if we lynch vivax today then he'd have to think about you tomorrow, implying there WOULD be another day to determine more alignments. His play overall has been severely lacking, he stated he wouldn't be around for a few days at the start of the game and so claimed vig, yet, he has returned several days ago and STILL done nothing of the sort of play that I'd imagine another towny to display, the only thing he has in fact done is answer questions to vivax and then failed in regards to answering your questions. When you asked if there were anymore questions that could be asked, it wasn't as if he was trying to solve your alignment or anyone elses but rather trying to prove his "alignment" instead. I haven't actually returned really, I get the same amount of time to play as I did before, theres just much much less to read. I still only get a short while to play. Also, if we lynch vivax today, and he flips scum like I think he will, then there WOULD be another day to determine more alignments, and to decide between you/kush. You're accusing me of doing the /exact/ same thing you just did at the beginning of your post, and the same thing kush is doing. (which is, deciding between the 3 of us which 2 are scum). Kush, I don't know why you liked this post at all
The difference is that I am not sure if you are scum or vivax is scum or kushm4sta is scum and so I am asking follow up questions to make sure that what I was thinking was in fact right. You on the other hand make a sweeping statement with no facts and no followup because you are sure of the facts and so instead of asking questions to lead to the ultimate goal of decision, instead, you just try and discredit the person that you need to get lynched.
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On April 26 2014 04:46 OneThousandWords wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2014 04:39 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 26 2014 03:33 OneThousandWords wrote:On April 26 2014 02:44 kushm4sta wrote:
OTW basically here is the situation. We have to figure out who is most likely scum out of Vivax, skanjab aka tweak, and yourself.
CAN YOU HELP?
What are your thoughts on the scumteam and who you want to lynch? Well I'm in an equally sticky situation seeing as I am in the same boat but your name instead of mine. However, I think I'd much rather stick to my gut that said you were town initially than to take everything I was saying about you for the past few days as scum indicative. Now that I look at it with some clarity (and thrawn, koshi and mderg being town etc) I can see someone being less involved in the game as town because they had town reads on a lot of the people and so the game becomes relatively simple at that point. Thus, my initial read would take precedence over you being scummy for not paying attention. I also read over the pages that I missed and your questioning of Skanjab1s seemed very natural and like you wanted him to answer so you could solve his alignment rather than asking questions for the sake of blending in. That leaves me with Skanjab1s, he made a post that triggered some alarm bells for me here: On April 25 2014 05:35 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 25 2014 04:51 kushm4sta wrote:
hmm skan so why vivax over OTW? I thought he was pretty scummy before. His initial questioning of me felt like he was reaching for something to call me scum for, rather than actually having the townie mindset of genuinely thinking that i'm scum. I got a bit distracted and ended up sheeping you near the end of D1. Regardless I'm pretty sure the last two scum are vivax and OTW, unless you're scum, but thats just too damn confusing to think about right now. If there are 2 scum alive today and 5 people remain, then if he was town, he shouldn't be including something like this as if he is mistaken and the team was in fact me and you then the game would be over instantly. However, the way that it's worded is that if we lynch vivax today then he'd have to think about you tomorrow, implying there WOULD be another day to determine more alignments. His play overall has been severely lacking, he stated he wouldn't be around for a few days at the start of the game and so claimed vig, yet, he has returned several days ago and STILL done nothing of the sort of play that I'd imagine another towny to display, the only thing he has in fact done is answer questions to vivax and then failed in regards to answering your questions. When you asked if there were anymore questions that could be asked, it wasn't as if he was trying to solve your alignment or anyone elses but rather trying to prove his "alignment" instead. I haven't actually returned really, I get the same amount of time to play as I did before, theres just much much less to read. I still only get a short while to play. Also, if we lynch vivax today, and he flips scum like I think he will, then there WOULD be another day to determine more alignments, and to decide between you/kush. You're accusing me of doing the /exact/ same thing you just did at the beginning of your post, and the same thing kush is doing. (which is, deciding between the 3 of us which 2 are scum). Kush, I don't know why you liked this post at all The difference is that I am not sure if you are scum or vivax is scum or kushm4sta is scum and so I am asking follow up questions to make sure that what I was thinking was in fact right. You on the other hand make a sweeping statement with no facts and no followup because you are sure of the facts and so instead of asking questions to lead to the ultimate goal of decision, instead, you just try and discredit the person that you need to get lynched.
There are no questions that I can ask that are going to make me any more sure of anyone's alignment. You haven't asked me any questions either. That answer makes no sense. Also, I discredit the arguments, not the people.
(By the way, I like, hope you're okay, the accident thing is awful, one of my friends got hit earlier this year in the same way)
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On April 26 2014 04:57 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2014 04:46 OneThousandWords wrote:On April 26 2014 04:39 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 26 2014 03:33 OneThousandWords wrote:On April 26 2014 02:44 kushm4sta wrote:
OTW basically here is the situation. We have to figure out who is most likely scum out of Vivax, skanjab aka tweak, and yourself.
CAN YOU HELP?
What are your thoughts on the scumteam and who you want to lynch? Well I'm in an equally sticky situation seeing as I am in the same boat but your name instead of mine. However, I think I'd much rather stick to my gut that said you were town initially than to take everything I was saying about you for the past few days as scum indicative. Now that I look at it with some clarity (and thrawn, koshi and mderg being town etc) I can see someone being less involved in the game as town because they had town reads on a lot of the people and so the game becomes relatively simple at that point. Thus, my initial read would take precedence over you being scummy for not paying attention. I also read over the pages that I missed and your questioning of Skanjab1s seemed very natural and like you wanted him to answer so you could solve his alignment rather than asking questions for the sake of blending in. That leaves me with Skanjab1s, he made a post that triggered some alarm bells for me here: On April 25 2014 05:35 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 25 2014 04:51 kushm4sta wrote:
hmm skan so why vivax over OTW? I thought he was pretty scummy before. His initial questioning of me felt like he was reaching for something to call me scum for, rather than actually having the townie mindset of genuinely thinking that i'm scum. I got a bit distracted and ended up sheeping you near the end of D1. Regardless I'm pretty sure the last two scum are vivax and OTW, unless you're scum, but thats just too damn confusing to think about right now. If there are 2 scum alive today and 5 people remain, then if he was town, he shouldn't be including something like this as if he is mistaken and the team was in fact me and you then the game would be over instantly. However, the way that it's worded is that if we lynch vivax today then he'd have to think about you tomorrow, implying there WOULD be another day to determine more alignments. His play overall has been severely lacking, he stated he wouldn't be around for a few days at the start of the game and so claimed vig, yet, he has returned several days ago and STILL done nothing of the sort of play that I'd imagine another towny to display, the only thing he has in fact done is answer questions to vivax and then failed in regards to answering your questions. When you asked if there were anymore questions that could be asked, it wasn't as if he was trying to solve your alignment or anyone elses but rather trying to prove his "alignment" instead. I haven't actually returned really, I get the same amount of time to play as I did before, theres just much much less to read. I still only get a short while to play. Also, if we lynch vivax today, and he flips scum like I think he will, then there WOULD be another day to determine more alignments, and to decide between you/kush. You're accusing me of doing the /exact/ same thing you just did at the beginning of your post, and the same thing kush is doing. (which is, deciding between the 3 of us which 2 are scum). Kush, I don't know why you liked this post at all The difference is that I am not sure if you are scum or vivax is scum or kushm4sta is scum and so I am asking follow up questions to make sure that what I was thinking was in fact right. You on the other hand make a sweeping statement with no facts and no followup because you are sure of the facts and so instead of asking questions to lead to the ultimate goal of decision, instead, you just try and discredit the person that you need to get lynched. There are no questions that I can ask that are going to make me any more sure of anyone's alignment. You haven't asked me any questions either. That answer makes no sense. Also, I discredit the arguments, not the people. (By the way, I like, hope you're okay, the accident thing is awful, one of my friends got hit earlier this year in the same way)
Thank you!
In regards to your point, I didn't ask you any questions, simply because you weren't around at the time of my return and my initial response was just a response to Kushm4sta asking a question!
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OTW you now win with town once all mafia are eliminated regardless of what your role / alignment is k? lol
I feel good about you after going through your filter in all honesty and at this point I'm just making a judgement call. Cause looking at Skan, kush, and vivax is hard enough already while doubting you.
I will say Skan seems like he's forcing out a couple of his last posts, Kush for me is so hard to read just because of the way he plays, and vivax hasn't said anything for like three days... what a difficult game.
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EBWOP: I guess I should mention the first line is a joke... idk how serious people get about that type of thing 
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On April 19 2014 23:29 ObviousOne wrote:
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Kush should tweek know better about you or is he not good at reading you? He had a scum read on you probably based mostly around your first-half of d1 absence and I don't know when/if he's checking back in. Was his intent to get you lynched okay to you, or is there some backstory I'm missing where he should be able to tell by the end of the day and just never got around to changing his read? Would be helpful if he would check up on that as I mentioned above.
Skan MIA means I don't know what he's thinking related to kush and between that and his fake claim he's my top lynch candidate for today. Second maybe Mderg, seems pretty blunt in his responses which seems like a "safe" way to play as saying as little as possible reveals as little as necessary. No real narrative to his filter.
I think Skanja is probably town, there's the blooper where he answers to a D1 FT reply and this post by OO is worded in a way that suggests OO thinks of him as a townie when talking to kush.
Speaking of that, Kush's moment of irrational confidence pushing Cavalinho N1 is another point in favour of kush being scum, and OO prefers to ask him a bunch of irrelevant, very diplomatic stuff.
As for OTW, I thought he was town for effort and a couple other reasons, but by PoE he's scum, very active scum.
Can't exclude that Skanja is scum 100% yet but I'm pretty confident kush is, will have time to decide definitely tomorrow after he flipped.
##Vote: Kush
Now excuse me, had a long day and need to sleep.
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VOTE COUNT:
Vivax (3): Skanjab1s, OmniEulogy, OneThousandWords
kushm4sta (1): Vivax
Not Voting (1): kushm4sta
Lynch is in . Voting is mandatory.
Currently Vivax is set to be lynched!
If you see your vote (or anyone else') out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it.
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yup vivax is dying i guess.
and dont you dare doubt my towniness. ever. nip this shit in a bud right now.
IF I AM SCUM, SCUM WINS. get over it.
Why did I change my mind on vivax? cause he has a lot of reasoning and shit in his filter and he's fucking hard to scum read.
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only reason i have for scumreading him is PoE, so naturally that isn't going to be a highly supported, stable read.
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On April 26 2014 11:00 OmniEulogy wrote:
here's hoping. lol
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Night 4
Vivax the Winterflame has been lynched
Night 4 ends in .
No flavor... I'm tired
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now skan is the next lynch.
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vivax played really well i think.
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On April 26 2014 04:18 OneThousandWords wrote:That means Koshi was right!
this is one of those things that only town would think of saying.
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I'd honestly like to see how town play would differ from scum play when replacing somebody who hasn't said anything late into Day 1 and a lynch mob on scummy town players is already underway lol gg Vivax
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skanjab show your scummy face
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Calm down kush.
If I get lynched tomorrow (and am town), does town lose?
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