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On April 22 2014 07:27 kushm4sta wrote:for some reason i was under the impression that there were 3 scum left Show nested quote +On April 22 2014 07:26 OneThousandWords wrote:On April 22 2014 07:24 kushm4sta wrote: THERE ARE 3 people in the scumteam left . ima ask again. who is the scumteam? This guy isn't even in the same game as us. and that makes me scum why Where did I say it made you scum..?
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I've already posted about this! He even responded... Like what game are you even playing?
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It's only been 1 or 2 pages
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On April 22 2014 07:24 OneThousandWords wrote: Seriously I've posted this about 1000x, originally it was mderg/skanjab1s because their argument seemed very faked but the more i looked at koshi the more it made sense. Then koshi died so mderg/skanjab is probably best bet but your afking and complete shutting down of discussion by saying "lynch through this list" is really a strange mindset for a town to have. So I'm gaining rapid suspicion of you which aligns with what i said previously.
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Already expressed why I think he's not town. Wanted to lynch a claimed vigilante (assumed skanjab1s said get me lynched because i won't be around) never really mentioned much about the lynch and then sheeped onto tofu and then slept. Returned and said ObviousOne was clearly scummy when I brought it up only to say he thought he had towny posts the next day. I had a conversation witg him on like page 60 about it.
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I'm finally free!
A few things to note:
I'm glad vivax stepped up and talked rather than those few lines he angrily left yesterday, not sure why he even did that in the first place. I don't like how he's skipped over me on the basis that I town read him though, that seems like a strange thing to do for someone in the dark on alignments. He also focuses a lot on skanjab1s vigilante claim which I'm not sure is apt when his whole filter contains things that are weird. He did seemingly address that after though which was a weird order of things to do it.
Skanjab1s claim has been rattled to death and honestly it's not telling of an alignment. He keeps making it out to be something super town sided though and skipping over the glaringly obvious part of it enabling him to afk safely for a day as scum which honestly is a little strange. Other than that his read and vote on tofu AFTER the deadline is really very very fake. The first instinct I have after opening a thread is to catch up on everything I have missed post by post and if there's a deadline I check to see the alignment of the player . Now, I can overlook that as just forgetfulness, however, in order to post what he did at that time you would have to completely ignore EVERYTHING on the latest page at the time and EVERYTHING about the game which I don't see someone with a mindset to solve the game doing. It looked like he thought the deadline was coming and wanted to make sure his vote was on the person that got lynched and for a reason.
Kush has been very very strange this past day, like he's not interested what is going on, how many scum are left, who is left. I don't see this happening from a town mindset because when I'm in the game and trying to figure things out this stuff is always in the back of my mind! It struck me as very disingenuous. His day 1 play was somewhat towny but since then I haven't seen much in the same regard. He also was set on vivax being scum but then out of the blue started calling him town after posts that were in my eyes, questionable. He seems to be playing the game backwards.
Mderg hadn't really posted much. I don't like the fact that basically the only thing he did day 1 was to push a claimed vigilante and night 1 said he thought ObviousOne was scummy like all of us only to say he has towny posts the next day but correct himself not long after realising his mistake. Not long after I made a post saying Vivax was towny he did the exact same thing as me but then later on in the day said that he was coming around to the idea of me being scum which doesn't really add up at all as I was the one pushing us to re-analyse the game at a time when everyone was pretty much afking.
I'm going to stick with a skanjab1s and mderg scum team. It makes a lot of sense for scum to tell someone to push for their lynch if they have little time in the hopes they look good when the person dies. I am a little apprehensive though but people told me that mafia are good on this site so I wouldn't put it past them.
If I could come up with another scum team I think mderg would most definitely be in it too anyway so:
##vote mderg
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On April 23 2014 07:10 thrawn2112 wrote: lol. i think otw just called everyone except me and OE mafia.
I've already said I think you are town based on the Cavalinho stuff. Omni is a vigilante so yes, I excluded you 2. This was just meant to point out things I did not like in the time I was gone as a reference to myself and others. Like notes if you will.
That's another question I want to ask. Why was Koshi shot instead of Omni?
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On April 23 2014 07:12 thrawn2112 wrote: otw you don't have any reasons for your vote.
you think skan is scum...... why? because he voted after deadline?
and you think mderg is scum because you think he was bussing skan? ok lol..... You aren't reading my bit on mderg at all properly then. He tried to lynch a claimed vigilante as his ONLY contribution on day 1 and then wasn't around for anything at deadline. He still voted for tofu after having little to no discussion on him compared to the entirety of his filter on skanjab1s. At night he followed mine and others sentiment on ObviousOne being scum but in the day forgot that he had that sentiment and tried to defend him only to backtrack almost immediately. If he was town, he would have looked into ObviousOne the moment people started calling him scummy because that would be contradictory to his own thought process.
His reads are not entirely consistent with what is going on. He's agreed with me on vivax and slight kush suspicion all day but when it starts looking bad somehow out of the blue he comes around to me looking scummy.
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On April 23 2014 07:18 kushm4sta wrote: why did you post those "notes" otw?
Because I am at my office and would rather have people see what I am thinking here rather than trying to remember all of it on the way home or write them down on a notepad and forget the context of it all. It's for transparency sake.
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On April 23 2014 07:21 thrawn2112 wrote: ok. i think maybe we lynch mderg after all.
What changed your mind??
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I know I asked this before but nobody responded. How do I look at a players past games?
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I'm sorry everyone, I had an accident and have been in hospital for the past couple of days! I had priority at a roundabout and somebody decided that it was in his best interest to ignore that and ram into the side of my bike, quite fast I might add. Not only did he break some of my bones but then he decided that it would be apt to flee from the scene. Thankfully, there were witnesses who got his details and i'm doing alright in hospital but it meant that I was not able to play for the past couple of days and I apologise.
Is there anything I should be catching up on?
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On April 26 2014 02:44 kushm4sta wrote: OTW basically here is the situation. We have to figure out who is most likely scum out of Vivax, skanjab aka tweak, and yourself. CAN YOU HELP? What are your thoughts on the scumteam and who you want to lynch?
Well I'm in an equally sticky situation seeing as I am in the same boat but your name instead of mine. However, I think I'd much rather stick to my gut that said you were town initially than to take everything I was saying about you for the past few days as scum indicative. Now that I look at it with some clarity (and thrawn, koshi and mderg being town etc) I can see someone being less involved in the game as town because they had town reads on a lot of the people and so the game becomes relatively simple at that point. Thus, my initial read would take precedence over you being scummy for not paying attention. I also read over the pages that I missed and your questioning of Skanjab1s seemed very natural and like you wanted him to answer so you could solve his alignment rather than asking questions for the sake of blending in.
That leaves me with Skanjab1s, he made a post that triggered some alarm bells for me here:
On April 25 2014 05:35 Skanjab1s wrote:I thought he was pretty scummy before. His initial questioning of me felt like he was reaching for something to call me scum for, rather than actually having the townie mindset of genuinely thinking that i'm scum. I got a bit distracted and ended up sheeping you near the end of D1. Regardless I'm pretty sure the last two scum are vivax and OTW, unless you're scum, but thats just too damn confusing to think about right now.
If there are 2 scum alive today and 5 people remain, then if he was town, he shouldn't be including something like this as if he is mistaken and the team was in fact me and you then the game would be over instantly. However, the way that it's worded is that if we lynch vivax today then he'd have to think about you tomorrow, implying there WOULD be another day to determine more alignments.
His play overall has been severely lacking, he stated he wouldn't be around for a few days at the start of the game and so claimed vig, yet, he has returned several days ago and STILL done nothing of the sort of play that I'd imagine another towny to display, the only thing he has in fact done is answer questions to vivax and then failed in regards to answering your questions. When you asked if there were anymore questions that could be asked, it wasn't as if he was trying to solve your alignment or anyone elses but rather trying to prove his "alignment" instead.
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So, in answering your question. I think the scum team is in fact Vivax and Skanjab1s.
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On April 26 2014 04:10 kushm4sta wrote: so want to take out vivax tonight since we already have the votes?
i like your thoughts on skanjab.
yeh that's cool with me
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That means Koshi was right!
On April 21 2014 11:15 Koshi wrote: I think it is Skanjab and Vivax.
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Kushm4sta I know this may seem futile but I just want to make sure, can you explain to me your reasons for not paying attention to the game the past few days. I just want to hear your version rather than my own assumptions.
Also, can you explain to me this chain of events:
On April 23 2014 07:47 kushm4sta wrote: vivax guess what untownreading you
On April 23 2014 07:47 kushm4sta wrote: scummy vivax reasoning: it happpened like this is that game, SO THIS GAME MUST BE JUST LIEK THAT GAME
What did you mean by that and how did you switch from Vivax being town to not town so quickly for reasoning that seems so simple?
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On April 26 2014 04:31 kushm4sta wrote: god your so fucking town otw.. gg scum.
For what reasons??
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On April 26 2014 04:39 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2014 03:33 OneThousandWords wrote:On April 26 2014 02:44 kushm4sta wrote: OTW basically here is the situation. We have to figure out who is most likely scum out of Vivax, skanjab aka tweak, and yourself. CAN YOU HELP? What are your thoughts on the scumteam and who you want to lynch? Well I'm in an equally sticky situation seeing as I am in the same boat but your name instead of mine. However, I think I'd much rather stick to my gut that said you were town initially than to take everything I was saying about you for the past few days as scum indicative. Now that I look at it with some clarity (and thrawn, koshi and mderg being town etc) I can see someone being less involved in the game as town because they had town reads on a lot of the people and so the game becomes relatively simple at that point. Thus, my initial read would take precedence over you being scummy for not paying attention. I also read over the pages that I missed and your questioning of Skanjab1s seemed very natural and like you wanted him to answer so you could solve his alignment rather than asking questions for the sake of blending in. That leaves me with Skanjab1s, he made a post that triggered some alarm bells for me here: On April 25 2014 05:35 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 25 2014 04:51 kushm4sta wrote: hmm skan so why vivax over OTW? I thought he was pretty scummy before. His initial questioning of me felt like he was reaching for something to call me scum for, rather than actually having the townie mindset of genuinely thinking that i'm scum. I got a bit distracted and ended up sheeping you near the end of D1. Regardless I'm pretty sure the last two scum are vivax and OTW, unless you're scum, but thats just too damn confusing to think about right now. If there are 2 scum alive today and 5 people remain, then if he was town, he shouldn't be including something like this as if he is mistaken and the team was in fact me and you then the game would be over instantly. However, the way that it's worded is that if we lynch vivax today then he'd have to think about you tomorrow, implying there WOULD be another day to determine more alignments. His play overall has been severely lacking, he stated he wouldn't be around for a few days at the start of the game and so claimed vig, yet, he has returned several days ago and STILL done nothing of the sort of play that I'd imagine another towny to display, the only thing he has in fact done is answer questions to vivax and then failed in regards to answering your questions. When you asked if there were anymore questions that could be asked, it wasn't as if he was trying to solve your alignment or anyone elses but rather trying to prove his "alignment" instead. I haven't actually returned really, I get the same amount of time to play as I did before, theres just much much less to read. I still only get a short while to play. Also, if we lynch vivax today, and he flips scum like I think he will, then there WOULD be another day to determine more alignments, and to decide between you/kush. You're accusing me of doing the /exact/ same thing you just did at the beginning of your post, and the same thing kush is doing. (which is, deciding between the 3 of us which 2 are scum). Kush, I don't know why you liked this post at all
The difference is that I am not sure if you are scum or vivax is scum or kushm4sta is scum and so I am asking follow up questions to make sure that what I was thinking was in fact right. You on the other hand make a sweeping statement with no facts and no followup because you are sure of the facts and so instead of asking questions to lead to the ultimate goal of decision, instead, you just try and discredit the person that you need to get lynched.
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