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On April 14 2014 10:44 getmoript wrote: Day 1 starts in What is this early start nonsense? | ||
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My town play is really stalk heavy. I watch all of you. All of you, when you post, when you sleep, when you work, when you eat. I might come out of nowhere with random people to lynch for random reasons. They did come out true though. I would define my town play as systematic instead of impulsive, I don't care about collateral damage, sharp and decisive over overly cautious. In this game you have already called 2 people scum for supposed scum slips. Am I to assume that you have now 180° on your own meta so quickly? This doesn't look very systematic to me, it looks like the complete opposite. You jump on people and call them scum without much basis and state that you are helping the town by making a pro-town atmosphere of sophisticated discussion when, instead, you are steering people in a very specific direction on a point of view that seems entirely skewed on pushing an agenda. | ||
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On April 15 2014 21:45 kushm4sta wrote: O Kochi I got you mixed up with some other dude. Skan you realize you might be roleblocked ... There's 3 possible scenario's here (although only if RB's are notified which OP doesn't mention AFAIK): 1) He is VT claiming a role and in which case he draws a RB and real roles can get on. 2) He is vig and draws a RB for better roles that give information. 3) He is mafia and has to claim being RB which enables all town roles to do their stuff. | ||
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On April 15 2014 21:48 kushm4sta wrote: Don't like. The supposition that he is pushing a scum agenda by pointing out scum slips is ridiculous. There is no supposition. His own definition of his play denotes that he is not impulsive but instead is systematic and decisive. I don't see that in him calling 2 people scum so early, especially Skanjab1s who is most likely town for that claim. | ||
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On April 15 2014 21:57 Koshi wrote: I fixed that for you. Because that addendum was bullshit. Why so? He just claimed vig. If he is mafia and claiming vig (which I agree is very very unlikely) then he has to claim being RB'd otherwise it would be incredibly suspicious. There is no way a claimed vig would not get RB'd or claim it if he is mafia because the risk of shooting mafia is always there. | ||
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On April 15 2014 22:03 Koshi wrote: Simply because you are also not yet sure if he is the real vigi y/n. You believe he is VT, then mafia can think he is VT. Then mafia can not RB him. The question is if this lie will be valuable for town in the end. Most of time lies end up bad. Because look how you are thinking. On the one hand you say he can be VT if he draws a RB But if he is VT and he didn't draw a RB you are opening a door to call him scum. This is a silly line of reasoning. I think he is town for his claim. I don't think mafia come in at the start of the day and claim a role out of the blue that can be CC'd. The only scenario in which he could turn out to look mafia is indeed if he is VT, if he doesn't get RB'd and a vig shot goes through. I find that scenario to be such an extreme outlier of a risk for mafia to take that it is a silly line of reasoning to go down at this point. | ||
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On April 15 2014 22:16 Koshi wrote: Is this still about the fact that you added "needs to be RB in case of mafia" and I disagreed with that. No, it's about the fact that I think he is town for when he claimed and how he did it and all situations point to it being beneficial for town but then you determine that there is likely a mafia motive behind the play and talk about mafia gambling plays, which I think at this point is crazy. | ||
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On April 15 2014 22:23 Koshi wrote: So back to useful things. Any scumreads anybody? Does Alakaslam always post like that? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On April 16 2014 05:55 mderg wrote: Such a great day! I had more than 10 minutes of free time in total. Awesome. Finding townies is not a bi-product of catching scum. Finding townies is great. If someone is confirmed town, you can trust him. Also he won´t be misslynched which increases the probability of lynching scum. Scum can also be found by process of elimination. wtf? I don´t get how claiming vig so early can help town in any way. Please no. What´s the point of that? If you know your town play, you can fake it. A high-post game is not necessarily good for town. If there´s too many posts, it becomes difficult to filter out important information. I´d like to encourage people to a moderate post count, not spamming, no lurking. If all it takes to look like town is to claim vig, I would do that every game i was scum in. Why do you like his claim? Sure, scum has to deal with it but otherwise scum would have had no idea about any power roles That´s not a very strong argument. Blaming a newbie for saying that he´s a newbie cannot convince me in any way. So difficult going through this. The one liners really hurt my reading comprehension. Thank you for your thoughts on individual posts, what I'd really like to know is what conclusions you drew from any of that? Right now your post is a giant wall that says nothing other than you disliked the one liners So difficult going through this. The one liners really hurt my reading comprehension. yet, your post is a giant collective of one liners. What did you hope to achieve by doing this? | ||
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Now, understandably we do not know the circumstances and I'd like to hear more from him but then he returns to the thread after quite some time to post, well, nothing. His only real post is a post to jump on discrediting OmniEulogy (whether justly or not). On April 16 2014 04:05 Cavalinho wrote: Uhh. Also I don't get the points in your post at all. I find this an odd behavioural tidbit because IMO this is not a townies mindset. | ||
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On April 16 2014 19:22 Koshi wrote: OneThousandWords Did absolutely NOTHING. Went in an argument with me defending the fact that skanjab HAS TO CLAIM RB OR IS MAFIA ON D2 while OTW himself didn't believe the Vig claim. Then he made some halfassed case on Cavalinho which simply isn't enough for a smurf. Even if Cavalinho is suspicious, it doesn't change the fact OTW has done nothing. Just some silly quotes enabling him to fly under radar. This is categorically false. Where do I state that I don't believe he could be vig? Also, I've seen the word smurf thrown around. If it's used in the same way as MOBA games then you're wrong, I was invited here by a friend from another mafia site. Here is wherein the real problem lies. All the people that you seemingly "like" for things that they have done have quite simply started from posts that I have made. Thrawn's main contributions this game: On April 16 2014 15:52 thrawn2112 wrote: lets lynch mderg On April 16 2014 16:20 thrawn2112 wrote: No. He made a huge post that doesn't contribute anything. He didn't say a single thing that is relevant to the lynch. It's even worse than no scumreads, there are no reads of any kind. He argued his points without giving any indication that he was forming reads based off of the things he was arguing against. This is his first contribution into the thread other than the non-sensical replies to longer posts earlier in his filter and it's just piggybacking off a post that I made earlier in the thread here. This is a relatively easy thing to do as mafia because: A) It lets people appear to be contributing. B) If worded differently but similar it enables people to pocket the other people that made the original case because they have seemingly similar reads. C) To the people that didn't read it they are fooled into believing it is original content. Now, on it's own I know this is not enough, however, thrawn's behaviour is not your typical town behaviour! He flits from one lynch to the next with little explanation. He practically wants to lynch half the game! I've mentioned Mderg before. Here he wants to lynch Kush. + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2014 17:53 thrawn2112 wrote: same for me. becasue of this post He wants to lynch ME which is somewhat of a kick in the teeth seeing as he is the one that is sheeping MY point of view on mderg. What could be the reason for this? Is he not reading what i've written? Nope. It's something about skan and nothing about the actual player that he got his read from. + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2014 19:26 thrawn2112 wrote: 100words is probably my 2nd lynch choice. i almost voted for him instead of that other guy. what stood out to me is how his main talking point was skan's claim and how pointless it was to talk about the claim yet he did nothing but talk about the claim koshi i'll fully read and respond to that meta when i wake up. too tired/tipsy for that right now. but i did skim one of the links and I notice that he likes to argue about stuff without thinking about alignments. so my preliminary answer to you question is yes, the meta does sorta make me uncertain about lnyching him. He wants to policy lynch an AFK player who is talking about nonsense (Alakaslam). He wants to also look into OE who he also says is scummy before even looking into him. This is not what I expect a typical person to do. Usually it's: I'll look into a player ----> Here is why he is scummy. Thrawn's view is. This is a somewhat scummy player ----> Going to go look into him after I've already made my decision about whether he is scummy or not! In conclusion thrawn is a person who, while talking a lot, seems to be a person of fleeting wishes. He is keen to hop onto anyone he can push a lynch onto. He hasn't "read the thread" and pushes others reads as his own. He calls the person he got his case for on his vote choice scum based on early conversation in a time where nothing was happening. ##Vote Thrawn2112 | ||
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On April 16 2014 23:57 kushm4sta wrote: I know thrawn better than anyone and I'm telling you he's town on tone alone. Can you explain this better please? | ||
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On April 16 2014 17:53 thrawn2112 wrote: same for me. becasue of this post On April 16 2014 18:03 thrawn2112 wrote: to clarify the part in parenthsis makes the post..... impossible? if you take out that qualification at the end then the post reads as kush saying that both of "you" are town and that you should realize it and stfu. but the the stuff in parenthesis means that he doesn't know if "you" are town... so if he doesn't know if the two players are town then why is he telling them that they should realize that they are havnig a town vs town argument? On April 16 2014 18:16 Koshi wrote: The first part of sentence can only be made if Kush knows we are both town. But the parenthesis contradicts that. Do you know if RB can block scum NK? What do you have to say to them? To everyone else it seems you are making statements that you can't know unless you have extra information. I want to hear your own reasoning for them. | ||
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On April 17 2014 00:06 kushm4sta wrote: You are essentially scum reading thrawn for not knowing who scum is. Can I explain the tonal difference? not really. Not really, his is playing in a way that is flavour of the month lynching. He also scum reads the person (me) that he shouldn't be if he had read the thread properly because his entire point on his main scum read (mderg) is the point that I originally raised. It shows that he is not reading people, yet still calling them scum when their names pop up. | ||
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What are your intentions behind that? The way it comes across is an attempt at slander to paint me in a negative light. | ||
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The point that I agree on though is that Cav's filter is very one dimensional. It exclusively talks about a player who has not very many posts and afk'd at the start of the game. This would be an easy person to pick on for mafia and the fact that he has no real mention of other players (not just mderg) is slightly more worrying. Then, rather than elaborate on more reads or question things or show his thought process he just defends against accusations more and more when under no real pressure which is odd. @Cav, you mentioned you had a scum read on mderg for similar posting. Why did you not mention him? Have you got a read on any other players at this time? | ||
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what that means you are thinking though no clue... *omg and easy way to seem like I'm doing something productive for town!* perhaps?
