[N][M] Normal Ass Normal Game - Page 2

On April 18 2014 22:24 kushm4sta wrote:
Mderg let's talk about skanjab. Always reminds me of skinjob which reminds me of handjob. Just saying.
But anyway I am thinking he could be town and just fake claiming vig to soak up an rb or something. What do you have to say about that possibility?

On April 17 2014 05:36 ObviousOne wrote:

Any potential vigilante situation is self-solving. Either a shot is called and made, called a missed, not called and claimed later, or never called but the vigilante dies. Giving any amount of effort towards discussing how much you do or don't believe it and arguing about it or using it to defend someone before any of those events happen is ridiculous.

So to say it another way; having a read on a player solely for their power claim is ridiculous because we know that mafia can fake claim, we know that a power role who claims early can get their role blocked, they can be simply shot, and other corner cases where it leads into some kind of big play (which I would discount but in the interests of trying to be thorough I add it here).

So if he's actually blue then you pushing for his lynch is pointless endeavour for anyone thinking with a town mindset. With so few potential power roles in a normal game (something you may not be aware of). You can just accept for one day that he's got something useful to contribute outside of his lack of conversational contribution and focus on real lynch candidate possibilities instead until it can be established he's lying or he is caught in a sure-fire situation where he knows something that he shouldn't.

That is why I think your vote is wasted and you've given him the possibility of being town for his role but you refuse to accept what that means for the overarching scheme of the game when you pursue him as a potential lynch candidate.

On April 21 2014 03:32 OneThousandWords wrote:

mderg
Mderg IMO is scummy. There isn't much stuff on his filter to go on and it seems to be like he has just been skating on through the game, mainly, he seems to have very little interaction to do with the day 1 lynch and his contribution to lynch actual scum (ObviousOne) does not exist. In fact, he voted Skanjab1s instead. His first post was contentless and summed up things that pretty much everyone had already said and then after quite some time of waiting and accusations being thrown around his second post does not really address much in the game at all and just consists of him answering randomq questions. He has weird pushes on Djagu (confirmed blue) for playing "the newbie card" but says it in a way in which it was not used (koshi? pointed this out) and then flits to trying to get the claimed vigilante lynched. In my mind I treated this guy as a confirmed vigilante, however, now that the actual vigilante has come out this puts all his accusations into incredibly suspicious territory. I've PoE'd the scum team to Skanjab1s and Mderg and I know this initially looks strange and I feel extremely aprehensive in doing so after making a connection theory with Thrawn and Cavalinho on day 1 but there is something off about the way Mder fought with Skanjab1s that just didn't seem natural. He pushes him for a long time of day 1 but then drops it altogether to lynch FirmTofu for reasons that are sheeped from other people. His interactions with ObviousOne are also very mediocre and no suspicion is raised about him. Then suddenly after having little to 0 participation in the day 1 lynch at night after everyone and their mothers starts calling ObviousOne scummy mderg says: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447645-normal-ass-normal-game?page=48#956. This on it's own is not that bad BUT there was the post the NEXT DAY that does not compare with this:

After saying that he agrees that ObviousOne is scum he says he has doubts (which he didn't mention in the night) and then quickly corrects that afterwards to say he has a scum read on ObviousOne (but still never votes for him over Skanjab1s).

I think Skanjab1s is truly busy and just told his team to lynch him and mderg took this to the next level and has been pushing him all game to look good for when he flips. His interactions with ObviousOne are strange and his read is not maintained through the game (in little space of time). I think mderg is scum.

On April 21 2014 07:22 OneThousandWords wrote:


Sorry yes you're right. The djagu thing was omni, I just had a lot of filters open at a time and your name was next to his. As for the rest, I posted on night 1 about ObviousOne and you quite clearly said "yes I think we all agree he is scum" but on day 2 you were showing that you didn't actually think that after all as your initial read was not so scummy until you rechecked the filter! So that does not add up at all!


You spend the ENTIRE day talking to skanjabs and you post 1 relevant post towards a FirmTofu/Cavalinho day lynch and it's just agreeing with other people's reasons to lynch FirmTofu and then you never return.

On April 23 2014 05:41 kushm4sta wrote:
MDERG MDERG MDERG MDERG

On April 22 2014 20:34 kushm4sta wrote:
how about the total lack of sucmhunting?
the complete focus on skanjab for bullshit reasons

On April 23 2014 06:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
mderg who do you have town reads on?

On April 23 2014 07:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
if mderg is scum then we lynch the fuck outta vivax