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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
March 26 2014 15:06 GMT
#18
/in

so excited
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
March 28 2014 13:46 GMT
#86
im so hype for this
btw, players i've never played with:

3. Holyflare
4. Tehpoofter
16. Amiko
21. Paperscraps
22. Killing
27. IAmRobik

can anyone give me a primer? i've seen holyflare and paperscraps before in games i've browsed through, but i really don't remember anything.

also it's been 5 months since i last played a game, has anyone in particular changed or should i still be listening to / ignoring the same people i was in november?
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
March 29 2014 15:32 GMT
#123
Btw grey why is this your last game? So sad that makes me.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
March 29 2014 15:40 GMT
#124
On March 29 2014 00:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Your wish is my command Wave!

1. Keirathi - meta dude
2. Alakaslam - happytown sadscum
3. Holyflare - insane
4.Tehpoofter - new, cool
5. Koshi - not Will Smith
6. raynpelikoneet - Will Smith
7. marvellosity - we just lynch mafia or each other
8. Dandel Ion - should be ez read
9. syllogism - very good town dunno how mafia, probably not so good
10. iamperfection - obvtown or scum
11. kitaman27 - hard read tricky
12. Oatsmaster - hopefully does not do dumb stuff, if not, easy read
13. strongandbig - we will probably fight
14. VisceraEyes - porkchops!
15. austinmcc - says stuff noone understands
16. Amiko - new
17. Hopeless1der - usually looks scummy regardless of alignment i really don't know why
18. justanothertownie - obviously town if town
19. WaveofShadow - feels, bad feels if mafia
20. LSB - nearly as insane as HF, i can't understand him usually
21. Paperscraps - don't remember much
22. Killing - didn't read, hasn't played town
23. Foolishness - dunno what he does as scum, should be obvious town on D2 if town
24. VayneAuthority - not revealing my secrets i just tell his alignment at some point
25. Palmar - kind of easyish to read i hope, if he just plays
26. yamato77 - should be easy to read, lazyscum goodtown
27. IAmRobik - crazytown, dunnoscum
28. sandroba - goodtown badscum
29. gumshoe - awwwww <3
30. ?????????????


Lets try not to fight this game rayn, I don't think it's ever been productive... I will try to just let your massive waves of posting roll off my back.

Oh also this is going to be a really difficult player list to balance teams for since there are so many "good" players who only play well as one alignment (or who only play at all as one alignment). Or rather, that would be true if this were a normal game. For a normal game with this group, marvellosity would almost have to be mafia for the sake of the game not sucking. Good thing it's a greymist game so we can throw that out the window.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 02:43 GMT
#537
Hey okay so I'm town guiz

I read some of the posts


My role is pretty fun, no idea what the flavor means though


Um what else

I like that someone else apparently gets more annoyed at dandelion than I do

Although why would robin say dandelion is probably town? That is kinda weird, seems more self aware than a truly "I'm just so posted off" townie would be.

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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 03:06 GMT
#565
On April 03 2014 11:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Townies always have a reason for voting someone


This is really not always the case... People's thresholds for voting are very different depending on the player
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 03:08 GMT
#570
On April 03 2014 12:05 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 11:59 sandroba wrote:
I don't think any button discussion is going to get us anywhere. How about we see what people decide to do and talk about it when it becomes relevant? My initial guess is most of us don't want CATASTROPHE in our lives right now.


You're assuming the catastrophe will be town specific. It's possible that it makes the game harder for mafia and 3p at the same time. I think we also have to put some value on the button. We need to know how important it is to have it guarded or try to deactivate it compared to using our town powers. It might be that it's better to have weaker roles guard the button rather than carry out their business. If we don't make a plan to deal with the button, mafia might just make a rush for it if they assume the consequences will fall on the town side.



Arbitrary gut read


This dude scum's it up like yo.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 12:53 GMT
#807
On April 03 2014 19:59 IAmRobik wrote:
The fact that some of you have played games with me and actually think that this is my mafia play is absolutely laughable. Please build a case against me if you're going to keep calling me mafia. Remember, based off of "TL superiority logic," it's scummy to call someone mafia without making a 30 page post about it.

This guy so scum
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 12:56 GMT
#812
On April 03 2014 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 19:34 Palmar wrote:
marv is scum

So scum.



I was going to try to talk srs about plammar reads but then I read a few more pages.

How do we tell third party pelmer from scum pelmer? When I've been scum with him he played like a 3p would. Either way he's probably not town, afaik he claims non town as non town way more than as town.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 12:56 GMT
#813
Also he's not posting like town plamer
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 13:00 GMT
#819
On April 03 2014 21:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 21:36 Holyflare wrote:
On April 03 2014 21:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 20:25 Holyflare wrote:
On April 03 2014 20:24 Palmar wrote:
Holy, we're the bosses of this town.


Let's win then!

Tell me what the most fun tl game mechanic was!

How does that help win the game?


What is the most fun tl mafia game mechanic jat?

What's the deal?
I probably missed the really fun mechanics because I never played in the heavily themed games besides hogwarts.

Drazerk neutral surviving balrog killing VE Day zero.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 13:01 GMT
#821
On April 03 2014 21:57 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 21:56 strongandbig wrote:
On April 03 2014 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
On April 03 2014 19:34 Palmar wrote:
marv is scum

So scum.



I was going to try to talk srs about plammar reads but then I read a few more pages.

How do we tell third party pelmer from scum pelmer? When I've been scum with him he played like a 3p would. Either way he's probably not town, afaik he claims non town as non town way more than as town.

I didn't claim non town.

*removes snb from townpile*

Awwwww. I was hoping when you claimed seventh party you were doing the thing from that gangs game again
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 13:04 GMT
#829
On April 03 2014 21:44 Palmar wrote:
hmm syllo, analytical, reasonable.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



Come on bro it's not like you even need to read sandrojism they just don't play if they're scum
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 14:45 GMT
#951
On April 03 2014 23:07 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
Defending himself hard instead of finding town/scum. Noted.

The fact that you're allying yourself with the person in the thread being the most disruptive and making the least sense should make you think twice. I don't know what you're doing, Holy.


who is being the most disruptive and making the least sense? i dont think i think it is who you think it is, unless im confused by your grammar
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 14:48 GMT
#954
On April 03 2014 23:10 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 23:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:05 Keirathi wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
JESUS WHATS A GUY GOTTA DO TO GET ON A TOWNIE LIST UP IN THIS BITCH?!?!

Like at first I was like "Meh Palmar thinks I'm scum whatever" when I was catching up but seriously NO ONE thinks I'm town?! What a ripoff. Should we just start voting for me now and get it over with?

Zzzz don't tell me you're going to pull this whole "woe is me" shit again

If woe becomes me again, then I may. That was just a frustration post. Pray I do not make another.

I think you're town babes. Also ignore Palmar, he's being wilfully disruptive and bad; what that means right now I don't know.


it means hes not town

like he said

duh



but i really think robik is being more disruptive by being so porcupiney than palmar is by doing whatever he's doing. palmar is way easier to work with / talk over

idk maybe im not good at skimming
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 14:51 GMT
#959
On April 03 2014 23:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Plammer totes scummy too, all he has done today, his selfproclaimed best day, is intentionally piss of robik, tunnel him under the guise of hes mad therefore scum and throw some soft suspicion onto marv that isnt well substantiated at all


i was gonna post the picture of haruhi from encyclopedia dramatica where it says "WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW" and say "replace god with "DAY ONE" and add PALMAR at the end" but encyclopedia dramatica is down apparently.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 14:56 GMT
#968
On April 03 2014 23:20 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 23:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:07 syllogism wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:59 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:30 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:19 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:17 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:14 IAmRobik wrote:
I hate that Palmar is town this game.


I learned new term in awful foreign land. ROBIK IS TMI-ING PRETTY HARD NOW.

Although I can't verify, not sure i'm town.

TMI = too much info?

Did I TMI when I called you out as mafia instantly? You still give me 0 fucking credit. Fucking pathetic

Initially, you think I'm weak. So you call me mafia.

Then you realize, I am strong. You must try to win my favor.

I am sorry Robik, I don't believe in violence. But we must investigate. Investigation shall be performed using a rope and a tree. I hope this does not come between us.

I mean. If you are town then you're trying to lynch another town, so that's playing against your win-con. I know mine says something along the lines of I win with town.

I don't need to win anyone's favor. I'm not here to make friends. I'm not here to make anyone feel good about themselves. I'm here because I like competition and because I want to win. I am town, thus I'm trying to solve the game. I don't think you're a strong player. I was told by Mattchew that you're good, but I didn't see any good town play from you in Foundations and I was able to determine that you were mafia based off of one measly sentence in Heavyweight Champ.

You are clearly smart so you know mafia is a game of incomplete information and thus townie attempting to lynch a townie is unavoidable. So why are you saying something like this? It looks off to me; something a carleess mafia is more likely to say than a smart townie.

As for the rest, the best way to win as either alignment is by making friends, even if just for the duration of the game.

That's all fine and dandy from your POV, but like -- I don't play that way. So you won't find me sucking up to people and trying to befriend them during the game. I'm gonna be aggressive. I'm gonna take weird fucking stances that no one is going to understand and I'm going to tell you what I'm thinking when I'm thinking it.

As for the first part of what you're saying -- I know mislynches happen, but fuck that. I never wanna mislynch and I never wanna be mislynched.

You do realise that its possible to change your playstyle? Is it brtter to find all the scum in day 1 and get mislynched day one or to slowly convince people to lynch your targets since you profess to have awesome reads.

chill the fuck down, nobody is being personal.

"I'm generally just happy if I can post a list that wins if you lynch from the bottom up (actually getting them lynched is totally overrated)"

"The real battle is fought and won in the postgame."

I'm not influential cause my reads don't make sense to people and they're hard to explain/take seriously. I'll post a list at some point with my reads. Then I'll die. No one will listen to me for the aforementioned reasons and after the game I'll just direct you to my reads post.

i thought you said you like winning
On April 03 2014 22:59 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 22:30 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:19 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:17 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:14 IAmRobik wrote:
I hate that Palmar is town this game.


I learned new term in awful foreign land. ROBIK IS TMI-ING PRETTY HARD NOW.

Although I can't verify, not sure i'm town.

TMI = too much info?

Did I TMI when I called you out as mafia instantly? You still give me 0 fucking credit. Fucking pathetic

Initially, you think I'm weak. So you call me mafia.

Then you realize, I am strong. You must try to win my favor.

I am sorry Robik, I don't believe in violence. But we must investigate. Investigation shall be performed using a rope and a tree. I hope this does not come between us.

I mean. If you are town then you're trying to lynch another town, so that's playing against your win-con. I know mine says something along the lines of I win with town.

I don't need to win anyone's favor. I'm not here to make friends. I'm not here to make anyone feel good about themselves. I'm here because I like competition and because I want to win. I am town, thus I'm trying to solve the game. I don't think you're a strong player. I was told by Mattchew that you're good, but I didn't see any good town play from you in Foundations and I was able to determine that you were mafia based off of one measly sentence in Heavyweight Champ.

i dont know what you're doing but it sounds like you're either playing next-level scum play or trying to justify your own dogmatic view of how a "townie" should play and if you lose it's everyone else's fault.

it's like you're a dota2 player who believes he's stuck in "elo hell"
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 15:02 GMT
#980
On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.


Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this.

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 15:03 GMT
#981
On April 03 2014 23:58 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 23:56 strongandbig wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:20 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:07 syllogism wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:59 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:30 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:19 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:17 Palmar wrote:
[quote]

I learned new term in awful foreign land. ROBIK IS TMI-ING PRETTY HARD NOW.

Although I can't verify, not sure i'm town.

TMI = too much info?

Did I TMI when I called you out as mafia instantly? You still give me 0 fucking credit. Fucking pathetic

Initially, you think I'm weak. So you call me mafia.

Then you realize, I am strong. You must try to win my favor.

I am sorry Robik, I don't believe in violence. But we must investigate. Investigation shall be performed using a rope and a tree. I hope this does not come between us.

I mean. If you are town then you're trying to lynch another town, so that's playing against your win-con. I know mine says something along the lines of I win with town.

I don't need to win anyone's favor. I'm not here to make friends. I'm not here to make anyone feel good about themselves. I'm here because I like competition and because I want to win. I am town, thus I'm trying to solve the game. I don't think you're a strong player. I was told by Mattchew that you're good, but I didn't see any good town play from you in Foundations and I was able to determine that you were mafia based off of one measly sentence in Heavyweight Champ.

You are clearly smart so you know mafia is a game of incomplete information and thus townie attempting to lynch a townie is unavoidable. So why are you saying something like this? It looks off to me; something a carleess mafia is more likely to say than a smart townie.

As for the rest, the best way to win as either alignment is by making friends, even if just for the duration of the game.

That's all fine and dandy from your POV, but like -- I don't play that way. So you won't find me sucking up to people and trying to befriend them during the game. I'm gonna be aggressive. I'm gonna take weird fucking stances that no one is going to understand and I'm going to tell you what I'm thinking when I'm thinking it.

As for the first part of what you're saying -- I know mislynches happen, but fuck that. I never wanna mislynch and I never wanna be mislynched.

You do realise that its possible to change your playstyle? Is it brtter to find all the scum in day 1 and get mislynched day one or to slowly convince people to lynch your targets since you profess to have awesome reads.

chill the fuck down, nobody is being personal.

"I'm generally just happy if I can post a list that wins if you lynch from the bottom up (actually getting them lynched is totally overrated)"

"The real battle is fought and won in the postgame."

I'm not influential cause my reads don't make sense to people and they're hard to explain/take seriously. I'll post a list at some point with my reads. Then I'll die. No one will listen to me for the aforementioned reasons and after the game I'll just direct you to my reads post.

i thought you said you like winning
On April 03 2014 22:59 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:30 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:19 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:17 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:14 IAmRobik wrote:
I hate that Palmar is town this game.


I learned new term in awful foreign land. ROBIK IS TMI-ING PRETTY HARD NOW.

Although I can't verify, not sure i'm town.

TMI = too much info?

Did I TMI when I called you out as mafia instantly? You still give me 0 fucking credit. Fucking pathetic

Initially, you think I'm weak. So you call me mafia.

Then you realize, I am strong. You must try to win my favor.

I am sorry Robik, I don't believe in violence. But we must investigate. Investigation shall be performed using a rope and a tree. I hope this does not come between us.

I mean. If you are town then you're trying to lynch another town, so that's playing against your win-con. I know mine says something along the lines of I win with town.

I don't need to win anyone's favor. I'm not here to make friends. I'm not here to make anyone feel good about themselves. I'm here because I like competition and because I want to win. I am town, thus I'm trying to solve the game. I don't think you're a strong player. I was told by Mattchew that you're good, but I didn't see any good town play from you in Foundations and I was able to determine that you were mafia based off of one measly sentence in Heavyweight Champ.

i dont know what you're doing but it sounds like you're either playing next-level scum play or trying to justify your own dogmatic view of how a "townie" should play and if you lose it's everyone else's fault.

it's like you're a dota2 player who believes he's stuck in "elo hell"

Nah. I'm like the support player that plays well and gets his carry like 600+ gpm, but then dies and gets blamed for the carry not being able to carry.

so change your playstyle. play a higher-impact hero. be the solo mid of this town if you want to win, but if you'd rather have "i told you so"s than wins admit it and gtfo cause this is a team game
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 15:08 GMT
#986
On April 04 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.


Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this.

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet

Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught.

if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment

i dont like people like that

syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b



anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2014 17:12 GMT
#1198
On April 04 2014 00:09 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 00:08 strongandbig wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.


Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this.

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet

Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught.

if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment

i dont like people like that

syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b



anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me?

Killing is DEFINITELY town. If you think otherwise, go read Foundations.

nope
explain to me
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April 03 2014 17:12 GMT
#1199
On April 04 2014 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:08 strongandbig wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.


Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this.

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet

Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught.

if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment

i dont like people like that

syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b



anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me?

I think Killing is town based on his last scumgame and this game. He was like FROZEN the whole game as mafia. Doesn't look like it at all this time.
You brought up syllo. Do you think sandroba is playing?

has he posted?
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strongandbig
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April 03 2014 18:01 GMT
#1272
On April 04 2014 00:20 Keirathi wrote:
I liked Killing's first few posts. They were carefree and fun loving.

Then he went all weird and nonsensical when he was questioning jat.

Idgi



this is the thing with killing... people are saying he feels more relaxed than in some other game but i dont see it, what i see is a dramatic shift in tone where he gets all serious and explainey all at once but only talks about policy and buttons, it feels like a conscious decision to change his tone but with a lack of any accompanying engagement with reads or the important parts of the game

other reads

oatsmaster is somehow managing to be simultaneously spammy-one-linery and effective-and-helpful. i've never seen anyone but marv walk that line before (boom shots fired at rayn lol)
that said i wish balla had told us the reason for the replacement request, i want to sheep oats but i really dont feel like there is enough in balla's filter to make a determination of alignment especially given the possibility of roleplaying

i like keirathi but cant figure out any reason why

i feel like ve hasn't really said much in the way of actual things, which worries me but only a little

i would've expected sandroba to be way more aggro than the posts he's made up till now, they've been way more thread-direct-ey than like alignment-find-ey
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April 03 2014 18:02 GMT
#1274
On April 04 2014 02:51 Palmar wrote:
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On April 04 2014 02:49 austinmcc wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:47 Palmar wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:46 austinmcc wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:28 syllogism wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:07 austinmcc wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:26 syllogism wrote:
On April 03 2014 14:23 austinmcc wrote:
Hello, friends! I believe you'll find that I am currently Quetzacoatl, Bird God of Lightning and Other Things I Decide to be God Over. You can find my credentials elsewhere.

yamato's bit on rayn not making townreads 5 minutes in reads like yamato town, silly thing to say if scum, and not in a good-silly way. Carefree comment, nonsense read based on nonsense reads, town. Especially since rayn thinks/thought that yamato might be mafia for being serious, yamato super town.

keirathi hello! + Show Spoiler +
On April 03 2014 10:11 Keirathi wrote:
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On April 03 2014 10:09 iamperfection wrote:
On April 03 2014 10:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp i don't really think townreading people because of their reaction to obvious joke post was as easy comment is legit.

Uh ok. I use it a ton and I don't really get burned by it. Not really worried about it anyway as Yamato is super easy to read. But lets not try and give iamp advice he kind of knows what he is doing.

But do you know how to bake a pretty cake?
I believe it's a piece of cake, if the way is hazy. I was once told that I had to "do the cooking by the book" and also ordered to "break it down bitch ... drop dat ass down low then pick that muthafucka up"


gumshoe remarkably overzealous.

everything else when skimmed does nothing for me or my pee-pee.

Did you intend to imply that gumshoe being overzealous is alignment indicative and if so, does it make town or mafia?
I don't think it's alignment-indicative, but I don't know gumshoe well. It's a stark contrast from what I know off-the-top-of-my-head about his recent play, and everyone else seems to be doing normal stuff (Palmar is being Palmar-y, people are being themselves-y, gumshoe is going ham on people). I like syllo for asking this question, he grabs a strange part of one of my posts, asks about it, in a way that indicates he probably wants to get a read on me.


Why mention it at all if it's meaningless? Palmar hadn't even posted when you made that remark, and you using later content to explain why you singled out gumshoe at previous point is suspicious. Does no one else really feel different from how they usually play?
Jumped out at me. True on palmar. As far as feeling different, nobody else feels THAT different? Perhaps more that gumshoe (and robik) could be summed up by one word at that point. gumshoe overzealous, robik...pissy/ragey/something, but nobody needs robik pointed out.

Austin what type of a car do you own?
An old Jetta.

Birds don't need cars though.


SCUMPILE SCUMPILE SCUMPILE.

You know me from the future, but only DeLorean can be used to travel in time. Not Jetta. This means you did not know me and you are mafia.

also a train right?
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strongandbig
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April 04 2014 00:36 GMT
#1541
On April 04 2014 07:06 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 04 2014 07:00 Paperscraps wrote:
.today for lynch great a like seems (Blazinghand)Balla24

.now right cozy and nice seem pockets s'Palmar .day first this vote a sheeping up end just probably will I .on early him reading town nobody and him on pressure the to reacted he how with now more VisceraEyes like of kind I

.bleed eyes my making are posts liner-one the All !Batman spam Holy

All the one-liner posts are making his eyes bleed -> I shall sheep Palmar, the one-line spamming king.

Interesting.

yeah this is kind of a thing


On April 04 2014 08:13 Amiko wrote:
@kitaman27
Hello in this thread!

i like you

You indicate you like that I proposed a button guard plan. That's nice, but do you think the plan would be at all helpful for town? I think more people would have to guard it than I suggested but I still feel like it would be a good move to have some people semi-accountable to tell town who they saw visit the button.

also youre town

Also
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On April 04 2014 08:04 kitaman27 wrote:
rayn, why no mass claim suggestion? Scum points for you.


For context to other readers, raynpelikoneet encouraged a d1 massclaim in the Dr. Who game (game is ongoing). In that game, he felt that in a highly-roled game, massclaiming was beneficial to town, and later flipped blue.

It seems to me that this game that would be more the case, because I felt massclaiming would be scarier in a game with conversion-mechanics and this game (probably) does not have them in game.

idk who si running doctorwho but if its not greymist (its probably igrok right?) then its probably not as well insulated against massclaims. dont massclaim a greymist gmae imo

On April 04 2014 08:49 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 04 2014 08:46 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
##vote: marvellosity

Atm he is building himself a filter without content and I know that is something he doesn't want to do as town because he wants to be able to play scum and he feels if he build filters that are too big as town all the time he wont be able to play scum because he can't have big filters as scum. so why is he building a big filter for the sake of building a big filter?

sleep tiems.

this post gave me cancer

marv cannot have big filters as mafia

therefore, because marv has a big filter, he is mafia

Mind=blown

yusss

also lol rayn
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strongandbig
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April 04 2014 14:14 GMT
#2086
550 posts overnight. Good luck me!
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strongandbig
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April 04 2014 14:39 GMT
#2109
Who actually broke the secrecy and revealed the player list of the qt with VE and va on it? My impression was that ve did it but I don't have time to dig back right now
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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April 04 2014 19:00 GMT
#2307
okay so a while ago i asked a question which got kind of ignored but

here's what's bugging me about VE

he jumps into the thread with the reveal of the qt, and that va had been playing differently between the qt and the thread in a way which made ve suspicious

forget the stuff about va claiming ve's role thats stupid.

but if ve was feeling strongly enough about this to both reveal publicly his qt and jump on va about it, how does he go back to "okay im sheepign whoever" so quickly when he doesnt gain traction

it doesnt sit well with me
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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April 04 2014 19:07 GMT
#2309
i hate upgrading computers
i hate server databases

i hate everything today

what else



i'm liking foolishness's read (with logic!) on aimperfection more than i am marv's tone-meta read



the paperscraps thing about changing his mind on poofa or whatever indicating hes just making his reads up as he goes along, that is kind of a good poitn



killing seems less bad now that hes posted more stuff. still suspicious about his dramatic changes in tone though, it feels like he's been trying to calibrate his tone and that feels artificial. but its less obvoius to me now

sandroba decided to play which makes me very happy, i liked a lot of the stuff he posted in the 500 or so posts i finally finished skimming through
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strongandbig
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April 04 2014 19:17 GMT
#2312
On April 05 2014 04:09 Keirathi wrote:
For the record, I 100% agree with marv. iamp is a fucking terrible lynch today.


same reason as marv? tone meta?
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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April 04 2014 20:55 GMT
#2405
On April 05 2014 05:15 marvellosity wrote:
Here is how Paperscraps, when he is town, describes his mafia play:
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On July 29 2013 03:18 Paperscraps wrote:
I have been very transparent in my posting up to this point. Yes, I had a lot of town reads when I caught up, You act like it is hard to act "town" day 1. I couldn't care less what people perceive me as. If I was scum, I would just be all amicable, maybe start some BS case against some one who made some questionable posts and call it a day. I thought the people playing this game would be able to read past the simple charades of others, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Here is how he describes it this game:
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On April 05 2014 05:10 Paperscraps wrote:
.up this brought t'haven Robik ,Killing ,Tehpoofter surprised am I .wolves the to sheep lead and mafia as town pro super play I .now right me before kneeling by all would you ,mafia was I if that realize do guys You

The two are not the same


yeah okay this does it

plus that just throwing out iamperfection because "read his filter" without addressing the much more detailed points that have already been made for and against him is such a cop out

##vote: paperscraps
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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April 04 2014 21:09 GMT
#2420
sandro if scraps is town why choose iamperfection in the way he did?
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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April 04 2014 21:31 GMT
#2432
On April 05 2014 06:19 sandroba wrote:
Okay I somehow missed the inconsistency marv spotted by paperscraps describing his own mafia play. Fuck I don't know anymore.
What is the case on gumshoe btw? I read his filter and there is nothing screaming scum to me. It's too hard to find stuff in this thread.


i was going to ask you about that but that post was from a year ago. I don't think that point holds as much weight as some of the others against paperman
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strongandbig
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April 04 2014 21:38 GMT
#2437
On April 05 2014 06:37 IAmRobik wrote:
OK. I'm about to catch up. The only thing I want everyone to note is that foolishness is complaining a lot about the spam, but like 95% of the words that he posts are just filler. He BARELY gives opinions on anything -- the only real stances that I can remember him taking were 1) iamp being mafia and 2) he read someone town earlier, but I forget who it was.

Please do not be fooled by the long "newspaper" posts that he's making. THEY HAVE VERY VERY LITTLE SUBSTANCE TO THEM!

no dood you dont get the point

there's a difference between "writing a lot" and "making a lot of posts"

if everyone made fewer posts this game would be better
the same is not true for "if everyone wrote fewer words"
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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April 04 2014 21:41 GMT
#2441
foolishness is right about sandroba being the most trustworthy though.

##unvote: paperscraps
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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April 04 2014 21:42 GMT
#2443
On April 05 2014 06:42 Keirathi wrote:
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On April 05 2014 06:38 strongandbig wrote:
On April 05 2014 06:37 IAmRobik wrote:
OK. I'm about to catch up. The only thing I want everyone to note is that foolishness is complaining a lot about the spam, but like 95% of the words that he posts are just filler. He BARELY gives opinions on anything -- the only real stances that I can remember him taking were 1) iamp being mafia and 2) he read someone town earlier, but I forget who it was.

Please do not be fooled by the long "newspaper" posts that he's making. THEY HAVE VERY VERY LITTLE SUBSTANCE TO THEM!

no dood you dont get the point

there's a difference between "writing a lot" and "making a lot of posts"

if everyone made fewer posts this game would be better
the same is not true for "if everyone wrote fewer words"

To be honest, I have a much harder time forcing myself to read 1000 word essay posts than I do reading 100 one liners from marv.

huh, its the opposite for me. style i guess
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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April 04 2014 22:31 GMT
#2534
have to go meet girlfriend

also sheeping sandroba
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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April 05 2014 02:52 GMT
#2796
Noooo! We had a town inventor and he died of alcohol poisoning! :
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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April 05 2014 16:36 GMT
#2870
On April 05 2014 09:50 Holyflare wrote:
We should force amiko to use power so no shenanigans happen


Why would this be a food idea
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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April 05 2014 17:06 GMT
#2891
On April 05 2014 18:55 Holyflare wrote:
Strongandbig, your vote seems a little odd. You mention a lot of things about what makes paperscraps scum and that he is a good lynch but then all of a sudden follow sandroba kn his gumshoe whim when he presented very little evidence for it. Are you keen to just hop along for the ride over your scummy reads?

There are a lot of other votes like yours too and this was a town lynch. Is there anyone that this is telling for?


Here were the reasons to vote paperscraps as I remember them (because I'm not going to read back, my phone broke and this old one I'm using is slow as fuck)
1. he was writing backwards
2. changed his read on some guy midway through with no explanation
--- in that change of read, he called the same content null that he had previously called scummy, leading Marv and others to speculate that h was making up his reads as he went along
3. he characterized his scum play this game in a convenient way which contradicted the way he characterized his scum play in a previous town game.

Here's why I changed my mind - if you look carefully I mention some of these in my filter but I didn't go into it in full detail:
1. This was always a stupid reason. If people wanted to lynch someone for being disruptive, hard to read, and hurting the thread they should have lynched palmar. Or Rubik. Anyway this never made him scum.
2. I changed my mind on this one. People can have their reads change. Plus sandroba didn't think this made paperscraps scum and I decided I trust sandroba more than Marv.
3. The post which got contradicted was from a year ago, and people change both their play an their idea of how to play in the course of a year.

Then I voted gumshoe mostly because sandroba did and I had to meet my girlfriend to go see The Seagull (a Chekov play which was really very good and which ended well after nine o'clock.)

As for other voters on gumshoe, I'll try and take a look when I have a computer but my impression from skimming was that people were jumping on to try and secure any lynch, when the paperscraps wagon had stalled because no one was actively pushing it. I'm not sure that's super scum motivated, in a game which likely has a jillion KP scum probably don't stand to gain too much by securing a single townie lynch, so I wouldn't expect them to be putting their necks of making up reasons to jump on the fastest wagon. So if paperscraps turns out to be scum then I guess you should be looking at people who voted him early and got him set up as the non paperscraps wagon, those being sandroba, me, Marv, Yamato, jat, etc - the first six or seven votes on him. I guess those are the people whose reasons for voting gumshoe deserve to be really scrutinized. I guess my reason wasn't the best - just following sandroba - but to be fair that's not a bad reason per se, plus I don't think there was any reason to believe at the time that the gumshoe wagon was going to be the most viable alternative as opposed to eg akiko or whoever.

The other side of the coin is why people decided to unvote paperscraps, and since the votecount doesn't specify who invited in what order, I can't really go into too much detail on this shitty phone.
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strongandbig
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April 05 2014 18:58 GMT
#2942
On April 06 2014 03:25 yamato77 wrote:
Going to just go through a player's filter per post and note what I find suspicious/townie

Starting with Syllo

So, the best way I've found to read Syllo is how he pushes lynches/suspicions. As either alignment, he is capable of looking inquisitive and as if he's trying to figure out the game. However, if he's town, his mafia reads are much more fleshed out and he pursues them obviously throughout.

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On April 03 2014 17:31 syllogism wrote:
On April 03 2014 15:36 Tehpoofter wrote:
Why haven't we pushed the button yet? Seems like a good idea.

On April 03 2014 12:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:47 Keirathi wrote:
It seems like Killing's basic argument boils down to something like this:

*Teacher puts 2 math problems on the board*

Guy 1: "Can you explain that first one again? I don't get it."

Teacher: "Okay, here you go!"

Guy 1: "Thanks, I got it now."

...................

Guy 2: "Wait, why didn't you ask for the explanation to both the problems? WHAT IS GOING ON WHY ARE YOU FAKING IT?"

Guy 1: "Because I only didn't understand the first one."

Guy 2: "DIE SCUM LIAR".

Ok, but Guy 2 is a tool then.


Naa its just joey you're have to excuse him he's canadian. Ask him about numbers that gets his pee-pee going.


On April 03 2014 11:34 Keirathi wrote:
FWIW, my problem with Robik is how hyper-sensitive he's been. One mention of his name and he's all like "Are you trying to kill me?" Or "Dandel is singling me out!" (which wasn't the case out all).

It's just super defensive for no reason. Is he just always like that?


Only when he's mafia.

On April 03 2014 09:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ACtually i don't even care. I won't get lynched in a game where marv is too or if i do you can straight up lynch him next.


O really? Can't lynch you huh? ##Vote: Raynpelikoneet

This post feels awkward to me even as a troll. In the subsequent post you postulate that, based on your video mafia experience, robik is really excited as town and you aren't seeing that here yet. You have at least some previous forum mafia experience, so I've a hard time believing that you can't see the difference between the formats. Was your genuine expectation that Robik's post would immediately convey the same kind of excitement and do you actually think that he has "quit"? That is, do you think that Robik was serious when he said he "would be back on day 2"?


Here is his first post, and what I think is his first read. Obviously it isn't a strong one, but I wonder if he follows up.

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On April 03 2014 21:43 syllogism wrote:
On April 03 2014 19:41 marvellosity wrote:
On April 03 2014 19:34 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 16:20 Paperscraps wrote:
.early this other each at dirt throwing be would scum that unlikely Seems .VE out calling is Robik that is though weird is What .IAmRobik on read his with agree somewhat I .far so doing is Tehpoofter what like I

.unusual play his find I ,about talked be not need that bond special a shard we Although .warranted t'wasn really it when ,me defended also He .awkward is it press to wanting to ,button the defending from switch His .game this scum be could VisceraEyes

.do can item the what on updated all you keep will I .ways uncontrollable and weird in affected being is speech my that is it having to downside The .power great of item an found have I ,searching my In

I fucking hate you Daniel.

For those of you having trouble reading this post, I'm pretty sure that the whole thing needs to be read from the bottom up and from right to left (obv), otherwise the context doesn't make sense.

I'd also like to mention, that I think Daniel posting like this is absolute bullshit, but you TL people would probably have a better handle of whether Greymist would make someone go through all this effort of typing in reverse. That's really fucking hard to do and I'm not sure that that would actually be a game mechanic, but knowing Daniel, that's something that he'd do to make the game more fun/interesting/difficult for himself

I think Greymist could do this.

More pertinently, it seems like a fuckton of effort to go through to write everything backwards. It's not something I'd ever see myself doing unnecessarily (as mafia presumably) because fuck that shit.

It takes no effort at all. In fact, if you go here, copy paste his post and choose "flip wording", you get a perfectly normal post with no errors at all, spacing and all. That suggests it was done automatically rather than manually. Did this not occur to you?

It is reasonable to believe that Greymist would realize such tools are available and I don't think it's likely he that would make a role with a posting restriction that takes no effort on the part of the person with the role. It also just makes the game more annoying to read and as far as I know, there are no previous Greymist roles with posting restrictions. If you agree, do you think this says something about Paperscraps?



He offers up more information here, similar to his first post, but fails to come to any conclusions of his own. He's being "helpful", but I don't see any direction with his posting.

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On April 03 2014 23:07 syllogism wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:59 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:30 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:19 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:17 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:14 IAmRobik wrote:
I hate that Palmar is town this game.


I learned new term in awful foreign land. ROBIK IS TMI-ING PRETTY HARD NOW.

Although I can't verify, not sure i'm town.

TMI = too much info?

Did I TMI when I called you out as mafia instantly? You still give me 0 fucking credit. Fucking pathetic

Initially, you think I'm weak. So you call me mafia.

Then you realize, I am strong. You must try to win my favor.

I am sorry Robik, I don't believe in violence. But we must investigate. Investigation shall be performed using a rope and a tree. I hope this does not come between us.

I mean. If you are town then you're trying to lynch another town, so that's playing against your win-con. I know mine says something along the lines of I win with town.

I don't need to win anyone's favor. I'm not here to make friends. I'm not here to make anyone feel good about themselves. I'm here because I like competition and because I want to win. I am town, thus I'm trying to solve the game. I don't think you're a strong player. I was told by Mattchew that you're good, but I didn't see any good town play from you in Foundations and I was able to determine that you were mafia based off of one measly sentence in Heavyweight Champ.

You are clearly smart so you know mafia is a game of incomplete information and thus townie attempting to lynch a townie is unavoidable. So why are you saying something like this? It looks off to me; something a carleess mafia is more likely to say than a smart townie.

As for the rest, the best way to win as either alignment is by making friends, even if just for the duration of the game.


There's a few posts like this in his filter where it's just "general game advice". He seems to suggest there in the bolded that Robik could be "careless mafia" for this, yet I don't understand the tone of the rest of this post (and it's predecessor, also aimed at Robik) with that read in mind.

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On April 04 2014 17:28 syllogism wrote:
On April 03 2014 20:28 Tehpoofter wrote:
@those awake currently what are your thoughts on Oats/ WoS?

This looks strange given that Oats is/was one of your strongest town reads. What were you hoping to gain from asking this question?

Robik: As I understand it, you are a bit more familiar with tehpoofter's play. He understandably was fixated on you early on, but hasn't really been doing anything since then besides asking, from my perspective, unfocused questions. On the other hand, he seems carefree; what do you think?


Here he follows up on both threads so far, somewhat, by asking Robik what he thinks of Poof. I suppose this counts as continuity, at least.

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On April 05 2014 02:41 syllogism wrote:
The difference in effort Gumshoe has put in cell mini and this game is drastic. Him saying that he sometimes decides to be lazy if a game doesn't interest him isn't sufficient given the contrast. Does his QT content look any better?

Gumshoe: I'm not expecting miracles from your answer, but could you attempt to enunciate as to why this game doesn't interest you?


Obviously angling for a gumshoe vote.

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On April 05 2014 04:46 syllogism wrote:
Gumshoe has made 39 posts in the other game since his last one in here and the lynch deadline in that game isn't even today.
I'm leaving in 30 minutes and it doesn't look like paperscraps lynch needs any help to reach majority, so that's where my vote is going.

##vote Gumshoe


This seems off, especially with the bolded.

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On April 05 2014 05:05 syllogism wrote:
On April 05 2014 05:02 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 05:02 syllogism wrote:
Kita is right about the discrepancy between gumshoe's activity in cell mini/doctor who being almost as large as in here/cell. Hard to contextualize the activity, but it does weaken my point. Perhaps tehpoofter is a better lynch.


are you disregarding paperscraps who literally just said "i can't be bothered to defend"?

No, paperscraps is a good lynch, but that remark was in the context of the best use of my vote given that that lynch isn't going to need any help and I won't be here to switch later.


Consistent, but still iffy. Why wouldn't he just vote for the majority?

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On April 05 2014 05:02 syllogism wrote:
Kita is right about the discrepancy between gumshoe's activity in cell mini/doctor who being almost as large as in here/cell. Hard to contextualize the activity, but it does weaken my point. Perhaps tehpoofter is a better lynch.


We see the beginnings of a switch, but he doesn't commit here.

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On April 05 2014 05:57 syllogism wrote:
On April 05 2014 05:41 sandroba wrote:
Still not liking the paperscraps lynch. I'm inclined to go with tehpoofer if we can get enough support.
That exchange with him and marv where he says he doesn't trust marv, therefore won't be voting paper is already a mafia tell, making assossiative reads with imcoplete information and not even reading the content of the case. But then he goes and does a complete 180 votes paper and vanishes after marv pressures him a bit.

His initial Robik read also feels disingenuous.

On April 03 2014 15:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
As for really non-trolly reads. I think that iamrobik might be scum. In video mafia when hes town hes really excited and throws out town reads left and right and he started to do that but then he had his mafia tell where he just quits... I think if he rolled mafia it would be a good cop out for not posting a lot as mafia to have this fight with Dand(although robert does just have a temper we will see). I also wasn't terribly swayed by his case on iamp.

This was very early into the game and the bolded doesn't actually have anything to do with this game. Could he have genuinely felt that robik had started giving out town reads, but then quit doing that at that stage of the game? That just seems like a blatant misrepresentation.

##unvote
##vote Tehpoofter


Again, we see his vote leaving the majority pack and heading off to no-man's-land. Why would he switch now instead of earlier, when he noted the weakness of his gumshoe read and the possibility of poofter being a better lynch?

Overall, I don't feel that he's made a strong read on any one person. His attempts at finding a lynch seem weak, and I don't like the timing of his voting. Fairly suspicious of syllo right now.


syllo is most likley non town because when sandro asked him a question he didnt respond directly. sandro what do you think
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April 06 2014 00:15 GMT
#3133
On April 06 2014 09:00 Acrofales wrote:
NIGHT ACTION DEADLINE.

[image loading]

Do not post until the daypost (which may be a little bit late). Any night actions sent in late will not be counted.

Isn't the deadline 9pm Eastern?
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April 06 2014 00:16 GMT
#3134
Oh nvm there's a resolution period
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April 06 2014 02:17 GMT
#3142
What all pms to anyone?

Also I one shot doctored sandroba and gave him gumshoe's power for the day so someone is gonna get dayvigged
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April 07 2014 14:30 GMT
#3461
sadroba was that the dayvig I gave you that killed bh?

oats I'll PM you but you know you could also pm me if you wanted o talks about something.

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April 07 2014 14:35 GMT
#3463
Wait why didnt by use his spell to make the nuke not land? Unless I'm misinterpreting the way the role is written he could hav just done that. And revived Marv.
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April 07 2014 16:56 GMT
#3546
On April 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On April 08 2014 01:36 Holyflare wrote:
why is "death" a dt? that is the biggest crock of shit i've ever heard

he is able to peer into the soul of his target, identifying any malicious intent

"who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men"
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April 07 2014 18:39 GMT
#3622
voted syllogism
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April 07 2014 20:32 GMT
#3708
On April 08 2014 04:36 LSB wrote:
I apologize for being inactive, I've been really busy. I need to get some sleep x.x

##Vote: syllogism

DT Claim, scummy, playing much more passively than before, I don't think I've seen a read in his filter last time I checked.



. . . . . . .
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April 07 2014 20:39 GMT
#3720
austin you've been talking a lot about this holyflare role confusion thing but why does it make him scum

break down the scenario for me

like, are you trying to say it's a literal scumslip because he didnt know how the town wincon was phrased? or is there something more than that?
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April 07 2014 21:37 GMT
#3743
On April 08 2014 05:42 Killing wrote:
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On April 08 2014 05:39 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:35 Killing wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:32 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:28 Killing wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:22 austinmcc wrote:
Can I stop spamming about this and......Oats and Killing and someone read this and give thoughts? Oats, Killing, VA!


My thoughts: Who gives a shit about the color of my role.
No, different thoughts.

If you don't think anyone should give a shit about the color of a role, then do Holyflare's thoughts and actions make sense to you as coming from a townie? Do they make sense as coming from a scum? Do they make sense as scum slipping and trying to cover up that slip? Do they just not make sense period?


As posted above, I think it's probably coming from a townie POV. As scum, it's probably a bad idea to argue over semantics and make yourself look bad. I think there's probably a reasoning over the difference in coloring the role but not one that is currently visible to the town nor the one that HF is proposing. It's townie to trying and figure it out though. If he was mafia, anyone that wins with town is his enemy anyways so he probably wouldn't care much. The only way it would be a good play as mafia is if he's trying to drum up paranoia or some shit but it doesn't make any sense.

He didn't bring that up to talk about it. He was forced to because what he says doesn't add up.
This is the "It's scummy to do scummy things as scum, so scum wouldn't do scummy things" argument.

It is usually a mafia argument, and often mafia defending mafia


Dude, what are you even saying? Do you think Greymist used a bunch of different colors cause he felt like making the game prettier?

If your answer is yes, then enjoy your stay in lala land
If not, there's a reasoning.



i just saw this. this is hilarious
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April 07 2014 21:45 GMT
#3747
On April 08 2014 06:43 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 08 2014 06:32 austinmcc wrote:
I'd kill Killing.

Townies defend people who do scummy stuff by saying "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but this case is different because of x, y, z" or "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but I think these other things he's done are townie, and overall he's townie." Scum defend people who do scummy stuff by saying "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but scum don't like being scummy, so him doing a scummy thing makes him town." (BECAUSE HOLY CRAP THE MOMENT YOU MAKE THAT ARGUMENT ONCE, EVERYONE IN THE GAME EVER WHO DOES SCUMMY STUFF IS KINDA TOWN IN YOUR BOOK AND THAT MAKES NO SENSE)

On April 03 2014 12:05 Killing wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:59 sandroba wrote:
I don't think any button discussion is going to get us anywhere. How about we see what people decide to do and talk about it when it becomes relevant? My initial guess is most of us don't want CATASTROPHE in our lives right now.


You're assuming the catastrophe will be town specific. It's possible that it makes the game harder for mafia and 3p at the same time. I think we also have to put some value on the button. We need to know how important it is to have it guarded or try to deactivate it compared to using our town powers. It might be that it's better to have weaker roles guard the button rather than carry out their business. If we don't make a plan to deal with the button, mafia might just make a rush for it if they assume the consequences will fall on the town side.
Here, Killing is of the mindset that perhaps that Catastrophe is good for town. This is true, we don't know what the Catastrophe is, and whether it's good or bad.

On April 07 2014 08:48 Killing wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 07 2014 08:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
I dunno, I pushed the button

zz

did you forget that was an option? I need CATASTROPHE™ to occur if I'm going to make any money.


So you're not town.........
Here, Hopeless is not town because he wants Catastrophe to happen. Implying that Catastrophe is bad for town only.

Which is the opposite of the above. We have learned nothing about Catastrophe, are entirely unsure what it does. Killing argues that it MIGHT be beneficial to town, perhaps, but then that Hopeless is scum for wanting it to happen.

Yeah, I retract my townread.

on killing?
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April 07 2014 21:46 GMT
#3748
On April 08 2014 06:45 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 08 2014 06:37 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 06:34 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 06:28 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 06:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've never played nor read a greymist game hence my confusion and only knowing about lemming from the award thread. Unless you're implying i have read them in which case i knew lemming was a mafia role from last game and still would be 0% inclined to start talking about it day 1
That is mainly in response to Killing asking me what my "theory" about the color difference is.

Also, I will continue to maintain that you DID talk about your role D1. Just look at my first posts. I was pretty confident you were EXACTLY what you're claiming to be, because who asks those questions repeatedly. The only reason anyone would ask about fun past games, or neat mechanics, is because they've got that role or a similar role.


What...? I'm saying i DID talk about it how are you being so dense. I am saying that it proves I'm not mafia because if i was mafia i got a traditionally mafia sided role and then started talking about it in thread straight away which would be suicide. That does not add up at all!
Unless you're implying i have read them in which case i knew lemming was a mafia role from last game and still would be 0% inclined to start talking about it day 1
You're saying that you DID talk about it, but saying that you WOULDN'T talk about it if you were mafia. I disagree with that. Yeah, we're not meeting heads on here, you DID talk about it, we agree, you WOULDN'T talk about it as mafia, we disagree there.

"Traditionally" is a stretch.

And again. What you're arguing is that when someone talks about that role, people will assume they're mafia. THAT is your reason for saying mafia wouldn't talk about having this role.

But nobody assumed you were mafia for your role. 29 people, 0 assumptions. So your argument that mafiaHoly wouldn't talk about his role is WEAK at best, MEANINGLESS to me, because we KNOW that people don't do what you are saying you think they would.



THIS IS WHAT IM SAYING, why would i take that risk!?!?!?!? how can i predict the future that everyone would just put it aside, if i was mafia HOW DO I KNOW that powers don't = alignments, I CANNOT know that unless i got a mafia role but in a town (or what i thought was 3p town win con) alignment!

i mean your team could tell you, this is a pretty bad argument.

still this whole argument is rpetty bad. how about you two keep talking about killing or whatever else you can think of thats not this.
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April 08 2014 02:58 GMT
#4054
On April 08 2014 11:50 Holyflare wrote:
if jat killed foolish there are then 3 scum kills, that means there are 5-6 scum only, we killed 2 so there are 3-4, originally we assumed there was 7 or 8 in which case we'd be against 5 or 6 scum now.

VA knows the amount of people in a scum team this game.


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On April 08 2014 11:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:21 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:18 justanothertownie wrote:
If you value my opinion - you should remain careful. I have no idea why syllo and especially iamp gave up so easily but it doesn't seem like town has this in the bag. Iamp didn't even try to fight back for some reason.


have you seen the rest of their team? it starts with LSB and one of the 2 horrible horses left in my division. They are close to the end.


so you're saying it's a 4 man mafia team vs 26?


yea man and then the other 2 players are me and me I actually hold two slots in this game.



That assumes there were no successful medic protects or roleblocks on scum night one though.
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April 09 2014 01:53 GMT
#4413
what the actual fuck...
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April 09 2014 03:23 GMT
#4453
On April 09 2014 11:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Anyway va could be totally demoralised. And geript super angry with his team. And snb and paper have given up. That sounds about right.
btw I gave double vote to sandro so hes doubly important now.

how have i given up? yesterday was a pm day
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April 09 2014 04:00 GMT
#4472
On April 09 2014 12:25 geript wrote:
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On April 05 2014 06:37 IAmRobik wrote:
OK. I'm about to catch up. The only thing I want everyone to note is that foolishness is complaining a lot about the spam, but like 95% of the words that he posts are just filler. He BARELY gives opinions on anything -- the only real stances that I can remember him taking were 1) iamp being mafia and 2) he read someone town earlier, but I forget who it was.

Please do not be fooled by the long "newspaper" posts that he's making. THEY HAVE VERY VERY LITTLE SUBSTANCE TO THEM!

[image loading]


I pmed you plenty early, you're just in a shitty timezone. And I posted during the night phase, just not in the thread.
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April 09 2014 04:01 GMT
#4473
That was suppose to quote oats, oops
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April 09 2014 17:00 GMT
#4619
yeah srsly

thats the thing about pm games, figuring everything out is fun but then everyone just sits back and waits for stuff to happen


i'm waiting for some specific stuff to happen
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April 09 2014 17:10 GMT
#4624
I don't plan on having anything delivered to me

In terms of danger of being shot, on the one hand I'm town and not going to get lynched so I'm a target if scum goes for a numbers game, plus I'm using my abilities, so yes, but no more than other people on the current "town list". I mean i'd like it if you protected me, but I'll have to take a second to think if I'm the best person to protect
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April 09 2014 18:02 GMT
#4630
On April 10 2014 02:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
I used my other power that was not my cop check last night - this night WaveofShadow should have received a healthy dose of empowerment, and I'll be using my DT check.

Anyone in doubt about my alignment needs to take a careful look at my (short) filter and come to the correct conclusion.


................................
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April 09 2014 22:12 GMT
#4684
On April 10 2014 05:33 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 02:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 09 2014 12:16 geript wrote:
Oh and FYI, if you want to keep playing I wouldn't do anything if I were you tonight.

On April 09 2014 18:20 geript wrote:
If I had my choice, JAT would killer Palmer. 14 pages and nothing good of note. Kill that guy.

I you want me to do anything at all you better explain this. Also I find it hard to believe that you protected anyone AND did whatever you did to me.

Look some of what I've said to Wubby doesn't have anything to do with my role. If you don't do anything tonight, then you're 100% safe. If you do something tonight you have a 25 or 50% chance of dying dependent on whether or not I target you again. I want you to shoot Palmer. I'm equally happy if you just do nothing.


palmar is like one of the towniest members of the town circle

he's just stuck in thread because he wants to keep doing his roleplaying thing
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April 09 2014 22:13 GMT
#4685
VE why did you not use your DT check?

serious question.
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April 09 2014 23:36 GMT
#4729
On April 10 2014 08:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
So Robik prevented actions from targeting Wave. Ah well, it WOULD have been super sweet I think, but whatevs.

Why didnt you use your dt?
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April 10 2014 12:58 GMT
#5011
There's no way oats is telling the truth. I roleblocker jat last night, and used a second power that redirects all his actions to target me. Sure I could have been roleblocked but the odds that both the people who roleblocked jat on each night just happened to be roleblocked themselves are very low.
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April 10 2014 14:49 GMT
#5017
VE needs to die for checking palmar when it made no sense, and for not checking on night 2 like he said he would.

oats needs to die for (admittedly) lying about his role the first time, for (most likely) lying about his role the second time, and for killing wos.
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April 10 2014 14:51 GMT
#5020
like ve if you are town, you are so dumb. on night 2 i used a power on oats that would have made your check unpreventable in any way, but by lying to the town you wasted our coordination.

if you are scum, then good job making me waste that power i guess but we are going to kill you anyway.
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April 10 2014 18:28 GMT
#5080
On April 11 2014 02:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Just went back and found this little nugget (i've read all of d2 and don't see any other indication of who killed BH or how oats would know that BH was about to die):

Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Bh gonna go poof.
does anyone understand what he is saying? Cause I sure dont.


Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 13:48 GreYMisT wrote:


Blazinghand, as The Doctor, was killed!


+ Show Spoiler [Role PM] +

Welcome to Catastrophe Mafia! You are The Doctor! Whenever the earth is threatened, You are there to meet the darkness. You are even saving the earth in two different timelines simultaneously! Each night, when the chaos counter is below 2, you may use the power of your sonic screwdriver and TARDIS to analyze a player’s effect on the time stream. You will learn if your target has abilities related to or the power to alter Time, radiation, or chaos.

You also have the one-shot ability Time Can be Rewritten! Once per game at any time before a phase change, (Before the night or daypost), you can target a player, living or dead, and specify a time in the game (phase: day 1, night 1, ect.). You will receive a list of all actions done on that player and by that player at the time specified. You may then choose to nullify 1 of the actions done to or by that player. Action resolution will be recalculated for that time and that time only, and you will alter the timeline at the end of the next phase (For example, if you use your power to target GreYMisT before the end of day 2, the timeline will be repaired at the beginning of day 3). The Chaos counter and radiation counter will both increase by 3. Once you begin to use this ability, you will retreat into the TARDIS, and will be removed from the game. You may not vote, post in the thread, be targeted, action, or count towards the number of players still in the game. You will return to this timeline after it has been altered. You win with the town.

“Everybody knows that everybody dies. But not every day. Not today. Some days are special. Some days are so, so blessed. Some days, nobody dies at all. Now and then, every once in a very long while, every day in a million days, when the wind stands fair and the Doctor comes to call, everybody lives.”
— River Song


sandroba used the 24-hour-delayed dayvigshot I gave him on blazinghand. I had announced to the thread that I gave Sandroba Gumshoe's power for the cycle. BH announced that someone had put a 24 hour bomb on him. So really anyone could have figured that out.

No, Oats is scum because I have modconfirmation that I was not roleblocked last night. I get my one-shot powers refunded when I get roleblocked. Neither of the powers I used last night were refunded, which means they went through. I roleblocked JAT, and I also made any actions he took target me instead of him. There is no way he visited anyone but me last night.

Now, it is possible that JAT was busdriven, so I roleblocked and redirected someone else. However, if that was the case then Oats would have tracked the same person I roleblocked. Still no way he gets a result that JAT visited dandel and roleblocked wos.

No, oats is confirmed lying.

##vote: oatsmaster
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April 10 2014 20:30 GMT
#5093
On April 11 2014 04:26 geript wrote:
[image loading]



that mspaint floating vagina looks like it took a lot of work
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April 10 2014 20:31 GMT
#5094
On April 11 2014 04:26 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 03:28 strongandbig wrote:
On April 11 2014 02:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Just went back and found this little nugget (i've read all of d2 and don't see any other indication of who killed BH or how oats would know that BH was about to die):

On April 07 2014 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Bh gonna go poof.
does anyone understand what he is saying? Cause I sure dont.


On April 07 2014 13:48 GreYMisT wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Z-8FKN_lw


Blazinghand, as The Doctor, was killed!


+ Show Spoiler [Role PM] +

Welcome to Catastrophe Mafia! You are The Doctor! Whenever the earth is threatened, You are there to meet the darkness. You are even saving the earth in two different timelines simultaneously! Each night, when the chaos counter is below 2, you may use the power of your sonic screwdriver and TARDIS to analyze a player’s effect on the time stream. You will learn if your target has abilities related to or the power to alter Time, radiation, or chaos.

You also have the one-shot ability Time Can be Rewritten! Once per game at any time before a phase change, (Before the night or daypost), you can target a player, living or dead, and specify a time in the game (phase: day 1, night 1, ect.). You will receive a list of all actions done on that player and by that player at the time specified. You may then choose to nullify 1 of the actions done to or by that player. Action resolution will be recalculated for that time and that time only, and you will alter the timeline at the end of the next phase (For example, if you use your power to target GreYMisT before the end of day 2, the timeline will be repaired at the beginning of day 3). The Chaos counter and radiation counter will both increase by 3. Once you begin to use this ability, you will retreat into the TARDIS, and will be removed from the game. You may not vote, post in the thread, be targeted, action, or count towards the number of players still in the game. You will return to this timeline after it has been altered. You win with the town.

“Everybody knows that everybody dies. But not every day. Not today. Some days are special. Some days are so, so blessed. Some days, nobody dies at all. Now and then, every once in a very long while, every day in a million days, when the wind stands fair and the Doctor comes to call, everybody lives.”
— River Song


sandroba used the 24-hour-delayed dayvigshot I gave him on blazinghand. I had announced to the thread that I gave Sandroba Gumshoe's power for the cycle. BH announced that someone had put a 24 hour bomb on him. So really anyone could have figured that out.

No, Oats is scum because I have modconfirmation that I was not roleblocked last night. I get my one-shot powers refunded when I get roleblocked. Neither of the powers I used last night were refunded, which means they went through. I roleblocked JAT, and I also made any actions he took target me instead of him. There is no way he visited anyone but me last night.

Now, it is possible that JAT was busdriven, so I roleblocked and redirected someone else. However, if that was the case then Oats would have tracked the same person I roleblocked. Still no way he gets a result that JAT visited dandel and roleblocked wos.

No, oats is confirmed lying.

##vote: oatsmaster

That sure is a lot of words for saying what I said

yeah except you don't have modconfirmation that you were not roleblocked
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April 10 2014 22:50 GMT
#5114
On April 11 2014 07:18 Paperscraps wrote:
Palmar's argument to Oats possibly being town has some merit too it. Logically Oats is a great lynch, but something in my gut says some of things Oats is saying he actually believes to be true. Conveying conviction on a forum is hard to gauge, but Oats has been relentless in his posting. Regardless Oats is a detriment to town discussion because of this incessant posting and has ulterior motives to kill Saruman for his win-con(this part of his claim I believe to be true), so killing him will be good for town even if he isn't scum aligned.

This is a waiting game right now. We have a strong town (circle jerk) and just need to eliminate anyone who isn't in it. The one thing I am wary about is the lack of opposition. It seems after day 1/beginning of day 2 we have been set on a singular course and are just following through with it. Not much has been in the way of us running a train on mafia since that point. This isn't necessarily bad, but it speaks to at least 1 scum being in our circle jerk.


suppose (which is very likely at this point) that one or two out of VE/oats/geript are scum. it's not like any of them have been taking the idea of getting lynched lying down. (except oats apparently now that we caught him in multiple explicit lies.)
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April 11 2014 01:06 GMT
#5125
On April 11 2014 09:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Its not an item. Its a power that is immune to busses, I checked with grey. I was hoping to do some kinda cool trap for QoS but I got too excited early.
anyway, dumbledorf cant be bad. Not possible.
I had no reason to fakeclaim about jat. None at all. Why did I do it as scum snb?

i dunno, why did you?
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April 11 2014 01:08 GMT
#5126
On April 11 2014 09:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Its not an item. Its a power that is immune to busses, I checked with grey. I was hoping to do some kinda cool trap for QoS but I got too excited early.
anyway, dumbledorf cant be bad. Not possible.
I had no reason to fakeclaim about jat. None at all. Why did I do it as scum snb?

how about you explain to me how i roleblocked jat, and redirected him at me, i have confirmation that my powers were not roleblocked, and you still saw him visiting DI and WoS?
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April 11 2014 01:08 GMT
#5127
oh and also plz explain your thought process behind dayvigging someone you just claimed you saw a scum member roleblock
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April 11 2014 05:35 GMT
#5149
On April 11 2014 12:46 geript wrote:
If I were you I'd be posting baby seals right now.

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April 11 2014 18:02 GMT
#5195
here's one thing, as long as jat is alive and trying to kill sandroba, we have to keep roleblocking him every night. i'd take a scum lynch first, but that in itself is a good enough reason to have jat be the backup lynch if oats is actually lynchproof.
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April 12 2014 01:31 GMT
#5249
Yeah I think we should definitely keep trying to get rid of oats.
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April 12 2014 03:40 GMT
#5301
On April 12 2014 10:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
What the fuck I lived??? Wow thanks scum. What in the world is scum doing this game

Why did oats make this post
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April 12 2014 03:43 GMT
#5302
Oats has a total of two one-shot abilities btw. I checked the number of one-shot abilities he had on night 2 when I tried to make ve's check unblockable.

Presumably one of those abilities was the dayvig and one was lynchproofing.
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April 12 2014 03:49 GMT
#5303
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For Austin
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April 12 2014 14:30 GMT
#5331
On April 12 2014 15:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I can prove my other power so you can be totally embarrassed though

What is it and how can you prove it
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April 12 2014 16:36 GMT
#5339
On April 13 2014 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dude no flips tonight and changed rad counter.
I only have 2 1 shots.
RIGHT GUYS?

What the fuck that is SO MUCH WORSE

Do not use that ability
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April 12 2014 17:00 GMT
#5343
Balls my post died
Anyway oats having that ability makes no sense with his claimed win condition. It has literally no relationship with it. The following are way more likely IMO:
- oats is scum and one of his teammates has the no flip ability
- oats is scum and has the no flip ability himself
- oats is 3p and lying about the ability to try not to get nk'ed (this one seems unlikely, why claim like the most antitown ability around if you're a 3p trying to get town not to kill you)
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April 12 2014 17:03 GMT
#5344
Oh btw oats if you have to kill Gandalf, did fladnag count or are you claiming there's another Gandalf in the game?
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April 12 2014 19:29 GMT
#5367
On April 13 2014 03:56 austinmcc wrote:
geript, question.

If scum has a "target player can't be lynched this cycle" mechanic on someone, why do they wait until now to use it? Could stick it on syllo or iamp earlier, possibly save a power of theirs and also keep a KP maybe, depending on numbers. Could stick it on Gumshoe D1, give no flip information, and PROBABLY have gumshoe be the lynch D2. Save it for a townie on a critical day coming up, no lynch, another set of NKs, and we PROBABLY lynch that dude the next day.

Do you think, if you actually work through it, that a buddy/partner/forbidden lover/supplicant/trusted librarian of Oats's would use that power on Oats? ESPECIALLY if snb's bit is legit and he just has one-shot abilities.

my thing doesnt say that oats only has one-shot abilities. I just get to know the number of one-shot abilities that he has. He could have other abilities that are not one-shot.
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April 12 2014 20:05 GMT
#5384
What are people's current thoughts about VA and paperscraps? I feel pretty much blank about both of them, which I don't like very much.
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April 12 2014 20:07 GMT
#5385
On April 13 2014 05:03 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 04:53 austinmcc wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
Or Oats had the lynchproof so if he doesn't use it on himself it's wasted.
Or it depends on chaos/radiation
Or or or

it's like you're wasting time on purpose.
Green: (Which is again what I think and I'm trying to understand why Geript thinks that oats does NOT do the lynchproof bit, someone else does)

Blue: Possible, but chaos has been 1 and > 1, so this would be a radiation thing only. Possible.

No color: It may be "like" that, but it ain't.


It's really simple. I don't think I've seen a GM role where they get to do 2 things in one phase. Like we can't used roles and defend; or at least I can't afaik. My last GM role had a couple of things but I couldn't use them both at the same time (sadly because I totally would've done a double lynch and vote rigged Slam/BH to die). Like it's not impossible, but I just don't see it.
Like if Oats were 1 shot lynchproof, I imagine that that would be some kind of item, which he 100% wouldn't have had. Like that's too weird as a 1 shot passive imo. So therefore Oats didn't do it.


If oats actually was telling the truth about being a survivor assassin it would be possible, I think - I don't think any ability where you PM the mods and it happens instantly counts as a normal phase use ability for most greymist roles, since it happens instantly.
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April 12 2014 20:13 GMT
#5391
On April 13 2014 05:07 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 04:45 austinmcc wrote:
You thought about past games, about actions per cycle, and why you think someone else did this. But it doesn't seem like you thought "why would they do this with oats", and I'm trying to figure out if you didn't think that through, if you believe something different from me, or if it looks like you're just making crap up for unknown reasons.

Offsite I've seen scum pardoner role a bunch of times. Every time I've seen scum pardon town (except for once), it's always ended up fucking town. That first time, it didn't fuck up scum because it pulled a vigi shot. Plus, I can't think of a game where mid-late game, Scum ever pardoned non-scum. Like ever. It's just not worth the risk. Sure if Oats actually is 3P this is a decent time to pull that out but then we just get JAT to kill him and if JAT doesn't, then we kill JAT too. So I'm not seeing the point.

Either way, I'm still pissed at you and you're still not making sense so I'm gonna be the big spoon. Snooglewoogle you can be the small spoon mmmmk


I feel pretty sure there was a scum pardoner in a greymist game actually, but I couldn't find it on my phone when I tried earlier.
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April 12 2014 22:29 GMT
#5416
How could blazinghand die? He was removed from the game and untargetable by anything

And robick protect me palmar or maybe hopeless imo
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April 12 2014 22:33 GMT
#5419
Austin what about ve? He's pretty high on my scum list atm what is your opinion.
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April 12 2014 22:34 GMT
#5420
On April 13 2014 07:31 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 07:29 strongandbig wrote:
How could blazinghand die? He was removed from the game and untargetable by anything

And robick protect me palmar or maybe hopeless imo
The post made it sound like something UNDID the resurrection.

Either via scum now having that item, or someone having an item reversal power (possible cough cough towards amiko), or someone having another timeline affecting/power use nullifying ability.

The way bh's power was phrased I'm pretty sure even his past actions should be untargetable, but obviously my interpretation of his power was off.
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April 12 2014 22:50 GMT
#5424
1. If he's town how do scum not kill the claimed dt? I sincerely doubt VE has been protected.
2. I don't agree that he wouldn't have openly said he didn't check oatsmaster, if there's a leak he could have known that I would make his n2 check unstoppable so the only way out of checking oats was to claim "oops I forgot"
3. We did already have at least one dead town cop
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April 12 2014 22:51 GMT
#5425
Palmar read your store plz I need input
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April 12 2014 22:51 GMT
#5426
Also sandroba
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April 12 2014 23:00 GMT
#5427
And we seriously need more out of va and paper scraps, I have them both as ???

Like at least the 3p are invested
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April 12 2014 23:01 GMT
#5429
Oh like here's something, I don't think we ever found out what "item" paper scraps was supposed to have day1 or if the bullshit post restriction was accepted as actual bullshit
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April 12 2014 23:09 GMT
#5432
On April 13 2014 08:01 IAmRobik wrote:
SnB, which of the 3p's are not 3p (from your estimation)

Oats for sure
I kind of believe jat just because of the way he claimed, it felt genuine
DI is the bizzarre case of someone claiming 3p because too many people think he's town rather than scum, so I doubt he is scum
Amiko is a weird claim because the powers have nothing to do with the wincon, but he could have some weird button or item related alternate win condition - that seems as likely to me as him being scum

And that's all of the claimed 3p right? I'm on my phone so no spreadsheet
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April 12 2014 23:11 GMT
#5434
On April 13 2014 08:03 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 08:01 strongandbig wrote:
Oh like here's something, I don't think we ever found out what "item" paper scraps was supposed to have day1 or if the bullshit post restriction was accepted as actual bullshit

He admitted to me it was BS -- not sure if it was a cover up, after the fact, or whether he was being truthful. If Amiko is telling the truth, Scraps is likely to have fabricated the whole thing.

Curious to know if he told anyone something different.

Did he tell you anything about his actual role? Afaik no one has any information about it and I don't like that
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April 12 2014 23:16 GMT
#5435
On April 13 2014 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
you can chalk up my inactivity to me basically rolling VT, sorry but I didn't plan on playing a weird game like this just to be a VT. I found a few scum and now I'm just bored while we finish out this game. Thats the plain and simple of it. If something interesting happens and my input is needed then fine.


Don't forget GM has roles sometimes where people become interesting after some event (like Bruce Wayne, who became batman after his parents died)

Anyways, this is the first vt claim, right? So I like it.
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April 12 2014 23:17 GMT
#5436
On April 13 2014 08:03 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 08:01 strongandbig wrote:
Oh like here's something, I don't think we ever found out what "item" paper scraps was supposed to have day1 or if the bullshit post restriction was accepted as actual bullshit

He admitted to me it was BS -- not sure if it was a cover up, after the fact, or whether he was being truthful. If Amiko is telling the truth, Scraps is likely to have fabricated the whole thing.

Curious to know if he told anyone something different.

Also robick - who do you think is more likely scum between killing and ve?
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April 12 2014 23:50 GMT
#5443
Well at least that's something. Do you believe him?
And killing or VE?
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April 12 2014 23:54 GMT
#5448
I kinda don't believe killings role claim, it seems weird to me that a gimped roleblock would require an in-thread announcement and change the chaos. What I think actually happened was killing's power made the day phase get skipped after lsb died.
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April 12 2014 23:55 GMT
#5449
Alright I'm staying locked on target.
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April 13 2014 01:25 GMT
#5464
I guess that explains why robick was announcing his protects publicly, he wanted scum to just not shoot them
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April 13 2014 01:29 GMT
#5469
Also I guess VE did not deliver a scum KP last night, because I made him and whoever he targeted into lovers for the night. I still kind of want to lunch him eventually but here's something more important.

If anyone roleblocked jat last night they should consider claiming the rb, at least that part of the role if not a full claim. I did not. I think we should kill oatsmaster and if he doesn't have any protection and no one claims the rb we should probably kill jat next. Unless oats had some kind of protection, which is possible I guess, but it probably means jat didn't target oats, I think
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April 13 2014 01:31 GMT
#5471
On April 13 2014 10:29 Amiko wrote:
Maybe I'm confused but I thought from Robik's role it meant that someone tried to heal/protect whoever robik also tried to protect.
("you will invert the effects of all actions that hit you")

Also, I was apparently roleblocked (as usual I don't understand why).


Oh wtf I didn't read that

Robick dies if someone heals his target?

I guess it's also possible they roleblocked and killed him
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April 13 2014 14:00 GMT
#5499
On April 13 2014 11:15 geript wrote:
Also for the record, I want someone to claim the VE/S&B lynch thing. That feels like a super scummy power.

I did that
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April 13 2014 14:10 GMT
#5500
I thought VE would deliver a scum nk so I used the votes lower on him as well because I wanted to see what would happen when I used all nine of my powers
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April 13 2014 15:09 GMT
#5502
Eagerly awaiting word from ve about his night actions
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April 13 2014 17:14 GMT
#5503
On April 13 2014 11:42 Amiko wrote:
I think I had 5. I think anyone in hopeless' QT could confirm I had at least 3.

My thinking was that maybe Robik targeted geript, so when I visited geript (to ID/take an item), maybe his effect flipped my action, giving you items instead of taking them.
I assumed that I only stole one item, not all of them (though I might be mistaken?) but I haven't stolen from anyone yet this game so I'm not sure.

Wouldn't robick have made your action target him instead of geript though?
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April 13 2014 18:11 GMT
#5509
How could geript have gotten them then?
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April 13 2014 18:24 GMT
#5510
Come on guys we can't let the thread die like this.

The game is not solved! Our confirmed townies are dropping like flies and we still don't know for sure who the scum are.

So here's something to talk about.

Postulate: if scum could, they would have used the prince of darkness power on day 2. Either to cancel the pms, or to cancel the double lynch. The fact that they didnt suggests two things to me.

One: the chaos counter was not high enough. We have seen this game that strong town powers have changed the chaos (eg blazinghand), and it's reasonable to expect the same of strong scum powers.
Two: the scum player with that power was not present on day 2 to use it.

So I think it could have come either from djodref/geript or killing. Killing's power triggered something on lsb, and reduced the chaos counter; the day phase ended right after lsb died. On the other hand, djodref was not in the thread on the pm day, and the prince of darkness power was used immediately after geript joined the game.

So we need to be talking about those players (plus VE, who put a green check on djodref) IMO and not just waiting for oatsmaster to die.
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April 14 2014 01:10 GMT
#5514
Well I really hope that it's just the weekend that made town lame. I haven't heard from any townies in our qt in over 24 hours. If people just don't want to play there's not much we can do.

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April 14 2014 02:17 GMT
#5518
Geript why do you have amiko's itsms
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April 14 2014 13:06 GMT
#5540
Sandroba and palmar what do you think about my prince of darkness analysis re: geript and killing

VE is either scum or the throwingest townie in all time and I almost want to lynch him over oats

Except that oats just ignored my Gandalf/fladnag question

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April 14 2014 13:07 GMT
#5541
Palmar that's fucking stupid. We lynch scum. This was the wrong game to sign up for if you didn't want to have to distinguish between 3p and scum, cause that's the game you're in.

That said, It is weird that there have been so few apparent town aligned KP. But we can complain about the setup when the game is over.
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April 14 2014 14:14 GMT
#5549
On April 14 2014 23:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2014 22:06 strongandbig wrote:
Sandroba and palmar what do you think about my prince of darkness analysis re: geript and killing

VE is either scum or the throwingest townie in all time and I almost want to lynch him over oats

Except that oats just ignored my Gandalf/fladnag question


its the same thing dude wtf use your smart brain please snb.

Not buying it

Role names are important
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April 14 2014 14:36 GMT
#5550
I'm just worried that we can't afford to waste a lynch on oatsmaster. Unlike VE, at least oats has presented a somewhat coherent explanation of a world in which his actions make sense... Whereas VE has had four nights and delivered zero useful checks and not been shot as the only claimed full detective.
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April 14 2014 14:38 GMT
#5551
Basically we have no idea when lylo is, and if this is lylo i feel way better blaming a loss on ve if he's town and really tried this little, than if we lose because oats actually is 3p and we didnt stop and think.
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April 14 2014 14:38 GMT
#5552
Blergh
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April 14 2014 17:26 GMT
#5575
On April 15 2014 02:03 geript wrote:
Vayn, S&B, Palmer, JAT, Austin.... I'm severely disappointed in all of you for not killing obvious scum right now. Like I don't give a fuck about the mayoral thing but not voting right now is really really unacceptable.

i'll vote before the end of the day cool your balls
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April 14 2014 17:26 GMT
#5576
On April 15 2014 00:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
I need to survive to endgame with fladnag dead before

no you said gandalf
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April 14 2014 17:29 GMT
#5577
On April 15 2014 00:19 Amiko wrote:
JAT: You're right, he claimed it here and I wasn't attentive

Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 23:00 strongandbig wrote:
On April 13 2014 11:15 geript wrote:
Also for the record, I want someone to claim the VE/S&B lynch thing. That feels like a super scummy power.

I did that


@strongandbig: Why use that power? I can understand your push on VE given his weird checks, but it seemed to me like Oats would be the likely lynch for today so why not use it tomorrow? Or do you want to try for VE over Oats today?

On April 13 2014 23:10 strongandbig wrote:
I thought VE would deliver a scum nk so I used the votes lower on him as well because I wanted to see what would happen when I used all nine of my powers

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April 14 2014 17:38 GMT
#5579
On April 03 2014 12:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On April 03 2014 12:23 LSB wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm going to say I want to push the button. CATASTROPHE or CATASTROPHE??

Excellent point VE, it is important to establish lexiconically that CATASTROPHE is the official correct way to describe the result of pressing the button. Catashrophe is acceptable as a short hand, as well as "The town initiative for a better tomorrow"

For example:

We must push the town button so we can cause CATASTROPHE for the betterment of the town.

I don't think it's important. I've made my stance clear, and I'm trying to find scum instead. Or rather, I've started by trying to find town, which will help me narrow down where I think I should look for scum. However your suggestion that it's important to discuss whether pushing the button is good or bad, again, leads me to believe that you're not so much interested in finding scum.

LSB captured!!


On April 03 2014 12:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 12:33 LSB wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:23 LSB wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm going to say I want to push the button. CATASTROPHE or CATASTROPHE??

Excellent point VE, it is important to establish lexiconically that CATASTROPHE is the official correct way to describe the result of pressing the button. Catashrophe is acceptable as a short hand, as well as "The town initiative for a better tomorrow"

For example:

We must push the town button so we can cause CATASTROPHE for the betterment of the town.

I don't think it's important. I've made my stance clear, and I'm trying to find scum instead. Or rather, I've started by trying to find town, which will help me narrow down where I think I should look for scum. However your suggestion that it's important to discuss whether pushing the button is good or bad, again, leads me to believe that you're not so much interested in finding scum.

LSB captured!!

I thought you were a friend, yet it seems to be you are nothing but a jailkeeper, a torturer of those whole want to be free

I love you LSB. But I will kill you for the town.


On April 03 2014 12:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On April 03 2014 12:40 LSB wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
LSB, do you have specific Info about the button???

I have no info about the button, even I, someone who is wise enough to realize the importance of unsealing the CATASTROPHE cannot fathom what the CATASTROPHE will bring

I'm willing to let you live for now LSB. But I'm watching you. Carefully.


On April 03 2014 23:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I tried to give him some breathing room but LSB has still given me no reason to keep him around. Can some of the people ignoring my posts look at LSB and tell me with a straight face that we should not lynch him?

thats it
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April 14 2014 17:43 GMT
#5580
fuck

well, i can look at it this way - if oats is lying then killing him is good for town and if oats is telling the truth then at least we can make him lose
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April 14 2014 17:59 GMT
#5581
Ok turns out I can't guarantee that ve didn't deliver a scum KP last night, if he had a role ability like a roleblock then I would have made him lovers with whoever he roleblocked instead of whoever he targeted with a scum KP.
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April 14 2014 18:08 GMT
#5585
On April 15 2014 03:04 austinmcc wrote:
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On April 14 2014 21:46 sandroba wrote:
@palmar yeah Im starting to feel that way too. I dont know if we can afford to lynch jat or amiko. We definetely need to start shooting people at night too.

@austin can you still shoot people?

@jat If you kill me do you leave the game?
No. Gun doesn't unbreak. Town knowing that better than WIFOMing scum and saying maybe or whatever, but I cannot.

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On April 14 2014 23:36 strongandbig wrote:
I'm just worried that we can't afford to waste a lynch on oatsmaster. Unlike VE, at least oats has presented a somewhat coherent explanation of a world in which his actions make sense... Whereas VE has had four nights and delivered zero useful checks and not been shot as the only claimed full detective.
Oats gets almost lynched yesterday, saved only by action. Oats has N3 and D4 to do stuff. Oats does _______. Oats isn't town.


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On April 13 2014 07:50 strongandbig wrote:
1. If he's town how do scum not kill the claimed dt? I sincerely doubt VE has been protected.
2. I don't agree that he wouldn't have openly said he didn't check oatsmaster, if there's a leak he could have known that I would make his n2 check unstoppable so the only way out of checking oats was to claim "oops I forgot"
3. We did already have at least one dead town cop
Back, wanted to chat about this.snb, you asked this, and looking back at poofter I dunno. As far as (1), the reason is ye olde "because he looks like ass and they'd rather shoot vocal townies/circle townies". Also, since everyone is powered this game, it's not the normal calculus of shooting a cop or Some Townie, but it's a cop vs Vocal Townie Who Does Something. Not great reasons, but that's what fits.

I had to re-check poofter, knew he was a cop but I thought he had more restrictions than he did.
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Each night, you may either Alignment check a player who ended any previous day voting you, or use “Borderline Ethical” methods and alignment check any player, but add 1 point to the chaos and radiation counters.
That points towards VE NOT being alignment and rolecoppy, as plain old alignment DT was balanced by either having limited targets OR adding counters, whereas VE has claimed alignment + role check, with an alternative ability to transfer a role for a day or night or whatever.

Given another lack of info night...I can come around on him. The claiming not to have seen "check oats" is still a point in his favor, imo, but nothing else really is when I look back at poofter's cop role.

The LSB stuff is...meh. He mentions him a bunch, but never really says WHY LSB is scummy. This is IT for why LSB is scummy, everything else is just coloring his name red and asking people about him, except he never says more about LSB and he never tries to get votes on him or anything:
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On April 03 2014 12:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:23 LSB wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm going to say I want to push the button. CATASTROPHE or CATASTROPHE??

Excellent point VE, it is important to establish lexiconically that CATASTROPHE is the official correct way to describe the result of pressing the button. Catashrophe is acceptable as a short hand, as well as "The town initiative for a better tomorrow"

For example:

We must push the town button so we can cause CATASTROPHE for the betterment of the town.

I don't think it's important. I've made my stance clear, and I'm trying to find scum instead. Or rather, I've started by trying to find town, which will help me narrow down where I think I should look for scum. However your suggestion that it's important to discuss whether pushing the button is good or bad, again, leads me to believe that you're not so much interested in finding scum.

LSB captured!!
(i.e. button discussion = scum, and then asking people later to comment on his points on LSB, which is nothing but "button discussion = scum")

He DOES vote iamp and call out iamp, slightly, but he's townie townie townie on iamp, and then swaps based on Foolishness's case, when a lot of people didn't like it/didn't like foolishness. It's...minor stuff slightly in his favor, but he's not really making any points on scum or pushing them legitimately, he just kinda colors them red when he feels like it, and I think he's making a little much of that.

oats obviously isnt town. im worried about if hes telling the truth about being 3p
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April 14 2014 19:23 GMT
#5600
On April 15 2014 03:42 austinmcc wrote:
At some point we're bumping up against a bunch of scummy crap that we don't know a source of though.

That brings us to:

Prince of Darkness
Blazinghand unrevived
Oats being unlynchable (still think this will be on oats when he flips)
Protect on oats last night

Along with assorted small counter movements that we can't account for as of yet.

the blazinghand unrevived thing is especially annoying because he should've been untargetable. don't forget lsb's mystery post-death anything power though.

i still think prince of darkness is like 99% either geript or killing
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April 15 2014 00:07 GMT
#5631
Well I still feel like killing VE is the right move, but I can't quite convince myself
Voting oats and mayor I guess
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April 15 2014 01:10 GMT
#5640
Wait why did oats die and not get lynched
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April 15 2014 01:11 GMT
#5642
Oh nm it's his role
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April 15 2014 01:11 GMT
#5643
We could have lynched someone else T_T
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April 15 2014 03:42 GMT
#5666
Daniel you can still help decide things
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April 15 2014 12:44 GMT
#5680
@palmar I was thinking the same thing about the oats check but at that point it's just wifom, he could easily have intentionally not faked the check on oats

Also I disagree, I think killing is a good check, although I probably won't be able to trust a VE check without VE flipping or playing radically differently from now
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April 15 2014 12:44 GMT
#5681
Guard the button means stop people from pushing it
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April 15 2014 14:15 GMT
#5682
Palmar I'm ringing the little bell at your store plz tend to your customers
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April 15 2014 19:42 GMT
#5698
I also want to know why palmar thinks that amiko would be the best shot. I would go with someone with a less believable claim, like killing or ve.
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April 16 2014 01:40 GMT
#5731
i counterpropose we put sandroba as top and me as second
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April 16 2014 01:45 GMT
#5732
and then i kill ve
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April 16 2014 01:45 GMT
#5733
also geript why did you get amiko's items
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April 16 2014 12:43 GMT
#5754
We already killed the scum bus driver though. did you shoot di instead of amiko?
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April 16 2014 14:31 GMT
#5757
Geript I still want to know how you got amiko's items

I don't like things being unexplained
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April 16 2014 17:57 GMT
#5782
Like geript if you are telling the truth and are townroleblocker then you can just rb jat tonight and we lunch scum.

If you are not townrb then you are lying scum and we should not lynch who you want us to.

Either way I don't want to lynch jat, right?
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April 16 2014 18:33 GMT
#5785
I mean, jat *could* be scum, i just think ve is a safer bet for it
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April 16 2014 22:44 GMT
#5806
ve isn't a lurker lynch. if anything its closer to a policy lynch for having the least believable dt checks in the history of the game.

still if you want to scumhunt from the assumption that we lynch ve and he flips town, then i'm down with that.

what do you say to paperscraps' assertion that killing knew his role and would have killed him if killing was scum?
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April 16 2014 23:44 GMT
#5809
i was asking geript
and how does that point towards scum and not 3p
thats like exactly waht i would expect from 3p
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April 17 2014 14:10 GMT
#5817
The fact that ve has given us absolutely nothing today makes me feel even more confident that he's the right lynch
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April 17 2014 14:29 GMT
#5818
Blergh with the bus driver having already flipped though ...

Geript will you claim who you roleblocked each night?

Also sandroba I'd like a full claim from you as well, complete role plus night actions.

I'll claim all my night actions if anyone hasn't been paying attention:
N1: target sandroba, one KP protect plus give him the power of the most recently lynched player (gumshoe)
N2: target oatsmaster, make any roles targeting him unstoppable (no rb/medic/etc) plus make myself unable to be affected by him plus find out how many one-shot abilities and items he had
N3: target jat, roleblock plus make him target me with any actions that go through the roleblock
N4: target VE, make him lovers with his target plus make me and him start with 1/2 of majority of votes
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April 17 2014 21:01 GMT
#5826
##vote: sandroba
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April 17 2014 22:33 GMT
#5829
I'd prefer it if someone could unvote me and vote sandroba, I don't want VE deciding who gets to be mayor

just in case
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April 17 2014 23:24 GMT
#5835
It would have been good if we could have stocked up on shitty items before the stores died but palmar and sandro were both not around to coordinate for the last few days
As far as tonight, it kind of depends on whether we think scum or town have more useful items.

Actually, ima say go ahead and yolo it. If a townie gets the ankh it could be a big deal.
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April 17 2014 23:24 GMT
#5836
Ebwop that was @amiko
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April 18 2014 00:54 GMT
#5838
That's an example of something to say more than an hour before the vote..,
Also send in night actions and claim plz
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April 18 2014 01:21 GMT
#5846
Ok he was unrecruitable traitor
There could actually be two more mafia
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April 18 2014 01:24 GMT
#5849
Still, pretty cool. That makes like four correct lynches out of five.
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April 18 2014 12:43 GMT
#5878
Thought blast - ve's role seems really stupid unless one of the other horses is also mafia. What is the point of an unrecruitablr traitor rolecop?
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April 18 2014 12:47 GMT
#5879
Amiko does your item swap power work before or after night actions?
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April 18 2014 13:10 GMT
#5880
Iirc the other horsemen are geript and va right?
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April 18 2014 17:09 GMT
#5885
On April 09 2014 10:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
Btw there is a rat in your circlejerk and it is possibly WoS. Anyone part of that circlejerk should consider this when communicating with him.

If anyone has reason to believe WoS is 100% town speak now.

Va what was your reasoning behind this claim that there was a rat in our circle?
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April 18 2014 22:14 GMT
#5889
Here's all I know about his role. If he didn't want me to share it he should've continued to play the game.
- He can deal 0.5kp each night, or 1kp to anyone who's role is a dragon.
- He can somehow increase chaos to gain himself extra powers - he used this once to get an extra point in bulletproofness, which he lost the same night (I think?) but he doesn't know what those powers will be

I wanted him to claim his night actions so he would claim who he targeted with those 0.5 kps, because they haven't been doing anything as far as i could tell. ofc he spent some night actions using items.

I don't have a good explanation of how he survived your ruby shot. Someone gave him a fire extinguisher in the QT. But it doesn't look like the ruby sets anyone on fire. If sandroba's telling the truth about his role and he's a dragon slayer type person, maybe he's immune to fire? but idk
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April 18 2014 22:16 GMT
#5890
Presumably if dandel had hatched he would've become the third party planar dragon? And maybe joined the scumteam? but it seems like there are no dragons in the game at the start so it's weird that sandroba would be able to kill them.
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April 18 2014 22:37 GMT
#5894
one thing is, on the night with no kp all of the medic protects and protective items were coordinated through our qt except paperscraps and robick. so that makes me feel like there wasn't scum in the qt.
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April 18 2014 23:01 GMT
#5898
also @amiko on second thought I'd prefer it if you didn't do your item shuffle thing, but instead stole from one of the following list of people: killing, va, paperscraps, jat.
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April 19 2014 16:55 GMT
#5918
I'm probably the most active I've ever been

I'm just not a very active player
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April 19 2014 16:57 GMT
#5919
Also if geript is scum doesn't that make it unlikely he's still roleblocking you? We already flipped one scum with unlimited roleblocks
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April 20 2014 13:50 GMT
#5938
Paper said killing knew his role since day 2

It's unlikely scum let paper live if they know his role, esp since he hadn't been strongly townread and wasn't likely to get protected by anyone else

On the other hand the way killing's power is claimed to work doesn't feel right to me. It seems much more like a power that lowers chaos would be scum favored not town favored

But still, the paper flip makes me grudgingly pass on lynching paper for now.
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April 20 2014 13:52 GMT
#5939
As for geript, he was the other person who I thought might've used the prince of darkness power, since he subbed in after pm day and if scum had pod on pm day they presumably would have used it then, but geript has played way more townie than I would expect a scum substitute to play especially after missing pm day
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April 20 2014 14:10 GMT
#5941
Then sandroba. He played really strongly to his townie meta, and was responsible for the town pm circle that got syllo, iamp, and lsb. Especially iamp, he felt much less "caught" than the other two and sandro could probably have saved him.

On the other hand, sandro hasn't done anything since then, which is more in line with his scum meta. Also he gave his resurrection invention to koshi who instantly got nightkilled.
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April 20 2014 14:12 GMT
#5942
Then iamp. His claim seems believable except that apparently killing sandroba is his win condition and he hasn't even tried to shoot sandroba, plus the mystery extra KP night before last.

Then va. Has done basically no things all game.
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April 20 2014 14:29 GMT
#5944
I guess here's where I'm leaning right now. Lynch one out of va/killing/geript, likely va but possibly one of the others. I think ve's role makes way more sense if one of the other horsemen is mafia, and geript's play has been townier but I want to look back and see where he was on scum lynches.. Then during the night phase we roleblock sandroba and have jat shoot him. Even if we mislynch today, we don't lose if a scum gets nk'ed.

Apart from me there are four town claims and two 3p claims. At least one scum and likely both are in the town claims. If we decide to kill sandroba with jat we can get half of the town claims this cycle. Idk, I'll have to think more about it this afternoon.
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April 20 2014 16:05 GMT
#5947
Ok so here's a question is there any way we can verify geript's roleclaim? If he actually is infinite roleblocker he's probably town, cause scum probably don't have two of those plus an infinite bus driver. Jat who did you try and shoot the nights he roleblocked you?
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April 20 2014 16:10 GMT
#5948
This is hard to decide. Everyone has reasons I don't want to kill them - geript has been the only one playing and isn't a horse, killing knew papers role and didnt kill him, and va's apparently playing to his town meta (or at least according to Marv he was doing so day 1) and has been dropping relatively consistent hints about it, plus him being scum can't explain the prince of darkness power.

If you need to drop your vote I think va is my current preference but that's not a final choice by any means.

Aargh this is so tough... I haven't played in six months, why can't catching two scum be enough
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April 20 2014 17:01 GMT
#5953
On April 21 2014 01:54 Amiko wrote:
@JAT & S&b regarding geript:
I can't confirm geript, but from my POV there's a lot supporting seeing him as town (and someone I have to work with).
1) VE's PM suggests other horses are town
2) Geript previously took all my items; this suggests that he spent a night roleblocking me rather than doing any KP.
3) Geript night visited me and I didn't die; this suggests to me he doesn't have KP (It's possible, however - like, maybe he can only kill someone if they have no items).
4) Geript probably wouldn't roleblock/night visit me as scum because why bother targeting a 3p?
5) His claimed power seems to make sense with a "famine" role
Anyway if you had to pick between VA and geript for a lynch I think VA is better, but I don't really think either is scum.

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On April 20 2014 09:33 geript wrote:
Amiko. I like you. You may steal from me tonight.

Can't you just give me an item today? If the game does end on a sandroba lynch then I want to win too :c
In the words of ABBA almighty,
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Gimme gimme gimme (item), won't somebody help me chase the shadows away
Gimme gimme gimme (item), take me through the darkness to the break of the day
##༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Give ITEM ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ


(Also if you give me an item then you can pick what I take, and I can steal from someone else tonight if need be)

I'm going to try to vote with geript primarily, but I am willing to move to the majority on the off chance I'll get an item from them if I vote for them.

scum can use their role action and send in a factional kp in the same night, this was confirmed when i asked acrofales about my "make someone lovers" power and he told me if they send in a factional kp and a role action, i would only make them lovers with the target of their role action.
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April 20 2014 21:12 GMT
#5954
Or, you know, people could just not post at all for the last 24 hours of the game.
Going to Easter dinner, maybe I will be able to post from the bathroom. Voting VA.
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April 20 2014 22:40 GMT
#5958
Va who do you think is scum

Amiko it's cause of the rolecop thing, without the qt VE being a rolecop doesn't help scum at a
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April 21 2014 01:16 GMT
#5989
Well, if either of them is town then gg

Jat kill sandroba tonight, you might as well win I guess :/
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April 21 2014 02:22 GMT
#5991
Killing killing suddenly seems cool
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April 21 2014 12:08 GMT
#5994
Just let him kill sandroba
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April 21 2014 14:21 GMT
#5995
I mean I know a midnight deadline is tough but seriously there were 48 hours to at least vote.
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April 21 2014 14:24 GMT
#5996
On April 21 2014 21:08 strongandbig wrote:
Just let him kill sandroba

You know what fuck that. Scum has to outnumber the town, and I'm not giving them one fucking inch. I'm not ready yet to yolo this game on sandroba being scum and jat telling the truth about his role.
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April 21 2014 14:54 GMT
#6000
geript and amiko can both tell if a player has items. I am ready I gamble this game on geript being town. He's been playing way more townie than anyone but me. Plus the multiple roleblockers thing. Setup speculation plus play.

So, what that means. Sandroba still should have at least one point of bp from his role, and there haven't been any missing KP since palmar died and our qt got shut down. So geript even if you don't roleblock jat, sandroba shouldn't die unless he's been lying to us. You should not roleblock jat tonight. If he's scum, role blocking him won't help because they'll just have the other scum deliver their KP. And if he's SK, then he's not shooting town tonight - that would put it at 1-2-2 tomorrow and scum win, so if jat is SK he's shooting amiko.

Instead, geript you should use your power on one out of killing/va/sandroba. Pick the two you think are most likely scum and then rng which one you roleblock, so scum can't know who to choose to deliver the kp. Meanwhile amiko you should do the same. Stealing from scum makes sense anyway - they're more likely to have items, and less likely to lynch you out of spite tomorrow if you betray them than we are, plus they can't have geript steal all your items at any point.

There are several items which we know were held by townies before they died. Possession of any of those items can be taken as a red check. We still have significant detective power at our disposal, plus we have geript's rb as well as other means to prevent NKs. We aren't dead yet, just mostly dead.
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April 21 2014 14:54 GMT
#6001
On April 21 2014 23:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 23:24 strongandbig wrote:
On April 21 2014 21:08 strongandbig wrote:
Just let him kill sandroba

You know what fuck that. Scum has to outnumber the town, and I'm not giving them one fucking inch. I'm not ready yet to yolo this game on sandroba being scum and jat telling the truth about his role.

You know that geript basically claimed scum? He is the one who forced the no lynch yesterday even though he voted for sandro earlier. No way in hell this guy is town. Sadly sandro is probably is buddy.
Or do you believe what geript said yesterday? That I am the last scum even though there was a nightkill last night when he roleblocked me?

I have to reread.
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April 21 2014 16:13 GMT
#6014
No I made actions on oats unblockable n2, I didn't rb him.
N3 I rb'ed jat.
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April 21 2014 17:22 GMT
#6024
geript you can just give amiko an item, let her use the steal on someone to find out if they're scum.
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April 21 2014 18:08 GMT
#6028
On April 22 2014 03:03 geript wrote:
I'll double check but I can't both give and RB.


oh i thought giving was just an extra action like delivering scum kp
let me know what they say, that could be important
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April 21 2014 19:45 GMT
#6032
what confirmed item does sandroba have?
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April 21 2014 20:19 GMT
#6038
On April 22 2014 04:52 justanothertownie wrote:
The damn ring. At least he himself said so and it makes sense. I suspect him to have another specific item too.

what's the other item?
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April 21 2014 20:21 GMT
#6039
On April 22 2014 05:19 strongandbig wrote:
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On April 22 2014 04:52 justanothertownie wrote:
The damn ring. At least he himself said so and it makes sense. I suspect him to have another specific item too.

what's the other item?


PS #nope
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April 21 2014 20:38 GMT
#6042
On April 22 2014 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 05:21 strongandbig wrote:
On April 22 2014 05:19 strongandbig wrote:
On April 22 2014 04:52 justanothertownie wrote:
The damn ring. At least he himself said so and it makes sense. I suspect him to have another specific item too.

what's the other item?


PS #nope

Ok, then I don't know. But he has the ring.

#nope
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April 21 2014 20:45 GMT
#6043
he might have the other item though
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April 21 2014 23:25 GMT
#6049
On April 22 2014 07:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
this isnt rocket science guys

there is 1 or 2 scum left and 2 people not saying anything, one unintentionally ill admit. Why we didnt kill killing yesterday is beyond me, probably cost us the game. I would RNG roleblock either sandro or killing and let JAT kill sandro, that is our best bet imo with all things considered.


you know what our actual best bet is, va

#YOLO

MY FRIENDS, THE TIME HAS COME. THE TIME TO TEST ALL OUR METTLES. THE TIME I HAVE BEEN WATCHING MY PARTICLE TRAP FOR FAR TOO LONG.
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THE TIME WE THE TOWN FIND OUT WHAT WE ARE REALLY MADE OF.


YES, MY FRIENDS, I SPEAK OF ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY. ARE WE MEN? I SAY AGAIN, ARE WE MEN? MEN FACE THE UNKNOWN, NOT FEAR IT! MEN BOLDLY GO WHERE NO MEN HAVE GONE BEFORE!

NO, TODAY IS THE DAY WE CEASE TO GIVE IN TO COWARDICE.

TODAY, MEN, WE COMMIT OURSELVES TO AN ACT OF HEROISM. AN ACT OF BRAVERY, AND FAITH IN A HIGHER POWER. FOR GOD IS ON OUR SIDE; GOD IS WITH US; AND WITH GOD AT OUR BACKS THERE CAN BE NO FEAR.

YES, FRIENDS, TODAY IS THE DAY WE PUSH THE BUTTON

LIKE THIS SOARING EAGLE, LOVE AMERICA. LOVE THE TOWN. LOVE GOD. AND PUSH THE BUTTON.
[image loading].

MAKE LOVE TO THIS WOMAN, WHO IS ALSO AMERICA, TOWN, AND GOD, AND PUSH THE BUTTON.
[image loading]

STICK THIS IMPLEMENT UP THE ANUS OF OSAMA BIN LADEN, METAPHORICALLY, BY PUSHING THE BUTTON.
[image loading].

SO JOIN ME, SONS OF THE TOWN. OF AMERICA. OF GOD! MY BROTHERS! I SEE IN YOUR EYES THE SAME FEAR THAT WOULD TAKE THE HEART OF ME. A DAY MAY COME WHEN THE COURAGE OF TOWN FAILS, WHEN WE NO LYNCH AT LYLO, WHEN WE FORSAKE OUR TEAM AND BREAK ALL BONDS OF TOWN CIRCLES, BUT IT IS NOT THIS DAY.

AN HOUR OF WOLVES AND SCUM AND SHATTERED ALLIANCES WHEN THE AGE OF TOWN COMES CRASHING DOWN, BUT IT IS NOT THIS DAY! THIS DAY WE PUSH THE BUTTON! BY ALL THAT YOU HOLD DEAR ON THIS GOOD EARTH, I BID YOU PUSH THE BUTTON, MEN OF THE TOWN!
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 21 2014 23:26 GMT
#6050
DO IT EVERYBODY


except geript and amiko, you guys have actual useful actions. everyone else push the fucking button. this game has gone on long enough and i've had enough of it and if it ends without anyone pushing the fucking button it will be the biggest shame of all time.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 22 2014 00:44 GMT
#6053
Still staying tuned

Longest commercial break evar
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 22 2014 01:03 GMT
#6070
I didn't believe killing at all about the lsb thing

Also sandroba had me so fooled T_T

Still I think I did a pretty good job after being out for six months

What would have happened if I had pushed the button?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 22 2014 01:52 GMT
#6102
My role was awesome, greymist
I wanted something to happen when I used all nine powers but that was asking a bit much :p

The lovers should work like I asked though, if someone has an ability that hits multiple targets then all of them should be lovers

What do you think of the combos I used? (I feel like it was pretty good except for the part with sandro being town)
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 22 2014 01:55 GMT
#6104
I mean with sandro not being town
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 22 2014 02:02 GMT
#6106
On April 22 2014 08:25 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 07:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
this isnt rocket science guys

there is 1 or 2 scum left and 2 people not saying anything, one unintentionally ill admit. Why we didnt kill killing yesterday is beyond me, probably cost us the game. I would RNG roleblock either sandro or killing and let JAT kill sandro, that is our best bet imo with all things considered.


you know what our actual best bet is, va

#YOLO

MY FRIENDS, THE TIME HAS COME. THE TIME TO TEST ALL OUR METTLES. THE TIME I HAVE BEEN WATCHING MY PARTICLE TRAP FOR FAR TOO LONG.
[image loading]

THE TIME WE THE TOWN FIND OUT WHAT WE ARE REALLY MADE OF.


YES, MY FRIENDS, I SPEAK OF ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY. ARE WE MEN? I SAY AGAIN, ARE WE MEN? MEN FACE THE UNKNOWN, NOT FEAR IT! MEN BOLDLY GO WHERE NO MEN HAVE GONE BEFORE!

NO, TODAY IS THE DAY WE CEASE TO GIVE IN TO COWARDICE.

TODAY, MEN, WE COMMIT OURSELVES TO AN ACT OF HEROISM. AN ACT OF BRAVERY, AND FAITH IN A HIGHER POWER. FOR GOD IS ON OUR SIDE; GOD IS WITH US; AND WITH GOD AT OUR BACKS THERE CAN BE NO FEAR.

YES, FRIENDS, TODAY IS THE DAY WE PUSH THE BUTTON

LIKE THIS SOARING EAGLE, LOVE AMERICA. LOVE THE TOWN. LOVE GOD. AND PUSH THE BUTTON.
[image loading].

MAKE LOVE TO THIS WOMAN, WHO IS ALSO AMERICA, TOWN, AND GOD, AND PUSH THE BUTTON.
[image loading]

STICK THIS IMPLEMENT UP THE ANUS OF OSAMA BIN LADEN, METAPHORICALLY, BY PUSHING THE BUTTON.
[image loading].

SO JOIN ME, SONS OF THE TOWN. OF AMERICA. OF GOD! MY BROTHERS! I SEE IN YOUR EYES THE SAME FEAR THAT WOULD TAKE THE HEART OF ME. A DAY MAY COME WHEN THE COURAGE OF TOWN FAILS, WHEN WE NO LYNCH AT LYLO, WHEN WE FORSAKE OUR TEAM AND BREAK ALL BONDS OF TOWN CIRCLES, BUT IT IS NOT THIS DAY.

AN HOUR OF WOLVES AND SCUM AND SHATTERED ALLIANCES WHEN THE AGE OF TOWN COMES CRASHING DOWN, BUT IT IS NOT THIS DAY! THIS DAY WE PUSH THE BUTTON! BY ALL THAT YOU HOLD DEAR ON THIS GOOD EARTH, I BID YOU PUSH THE BUTTON, MEN OF THE TOWN!


Best post 2012 right here btw
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 22 2014 03:02 GMT
#6115
So did palmar lose?

Also the fake invention thing was quite a gamble, if anyone had protected koshi it would've been gg for scum
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 22 2014 12:45 GMT
#6173
On April 22 2014 12:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 12:35 yamato77 wrote:
On April 22 2014 12:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
How'd that work out for you yamato? What day did I FINALLY get lynched again?

Well, I would have lynched Oats first, too, but you weren't fooling me like sandro was.

My interactions with Oats were on point. When he flipped scum you would have looked elsewhere I promise you that. Who do you think you are, strongandbig?


Lel
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 22 2014 12:47 GMT
#6175
On April 22 2014 21:44 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 22 2014 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
On April 22 2014 21:42 syllogism wrote:
On April 22 2014 21:41 Holyflare wrote:
On April 22 2014 21:40 syllogism wrote:
I had a red check on me, Oats claimed mafia, VE claimed mafia

I give you credit for Iamp and LSB


List was made far before any of them claimed mafia.

It was a game of clearing people based on claims, roles and activity

So like every game of mafia then.

No. Absolutely not. I am with syllo here.

If scum had roleblocked holy flare the game would've been completely different IMO. On the one hand, sandroba wouldn't have been "confirmed town," on the other hand not nearly so many roles would've been confirmed.


Also that jat palmar shot probably saved town lol. He really had a hardon for killing third parties.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 22 2014 12:50 GMT
#6177
Also syllo I think the game was light on analysis because half of the scum team decided to claim scum.

I mean people were still defending VE on like day 4
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 22 2014 12:50 GMT
#6179
On April 22 2014 21:48 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 21:39 Holyflare wrote:
On April 22 2014 21:22 Koshi wrote:
Perfect play by town after the "town circle" killed BH on D2.

D2 syllo, iamp
N2 LSB
D3 no day
D4 Oatsmaster
D5 Oatsmaster (Couldn't be prevented, good play by town, just couldn't know he would autodie)
D6 VisceraEyes
D7 no lynch (special taktiks)
N7 Sandroba shot

I don't think any town kp hit town in that period.


I have no idea why you're so butthurt by the town circle. It wasn't even formed when BH died and BH died because mafia wanted to shoot him. Apart from that the game was pretty much solved by town circle and then Geript came in and tried to throw many spanners into the 3p claims...

Because the town circle and his members were fucking shit. That's why. Do I have to quote all the stuff they said in the thread? It would be ok if they actually were able to do something, or at least be a town circle. But they were townies following a scum. That's all that it was.

Look at when VA (!!!), a guy who a townmember described as "not caring about this game", was able to deduct there was a spy, got a scumread because he dared to question this towncircle.
Look at how the towncircle claimed the lynch of iamp/syllo/LSB.

....

Ridiculous.


Va didnt actually figure out that there was a spy. He just said that as a reaction test of wos.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 22 2014 13:15 GMT
#6198
I think geript and I are gonna go ahead and take joint credit for not letting this game die a slow painful death of apathetic ignorance in the last 3-4 cycles.

Also I'm gonna take credit for catching VE Day 1 and sticking on him until I got him dead.

So much credit.

Alright true I also pushed killing since day 1 but I only got to lynch one of those two in the end and I chose right.

I mean I also did protect a scum and give him a dayvig, but foolishness did the same thing so I don't feel as bad about that as I probably should.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 22 2014 13:17 GMT
#6199
Oh also if foolishness protected sandroba doesn't that mean he should've been janitored for a cycle? Greymist should totally just have noflipped sandroba and made us play out the extra cycle :p
I would've been mad but it would've been so funny.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 22 2014 14:23 GMT
#6205
On April 22 2014 10:52 strongandbig wrote:
My role was awesome, greymist
I wanted something to happen when I used all nine powers but that was asking a bit much :p

The lovers should work like I asked though, if someone has an ability that hits multiple targets then all of them should be lovers

What do you think of the combos I used? (I feel like it was pretty good except for the part with sandro being town)

@gm, bump

I'm interested in what else you thought of that could be done by comboing those powers

Also I can't believe no one else pushed the button with me after my inspirational speech
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 22 2014 14:38 GMT
#6209
It would've been a genius move if sandro had been committed to playing actively for the long run.

Also interesting: this is (tied for) my longest filter ever in a mafia game (11 pages)

Next game I play is gonna suck ("oh he's so inactive he must be scum trololol)
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 22 2014 17:24 GMT
#6251
On April 23 2014 01:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
I didn't "basically claim scum" you dicks, it took the guy who was tunneling me all game long to lynch me with a mayor vote. I was town enough to survive a majority lynch if I had to. Anyone saying I "claimed scum" is wrong and should feel bad.

C'mon there's a difference between tunneling you and having you as a scum read, it's not like I ignored syllo, killing, oatsmaster etc while pursuing you :/
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 25 2014 11:48 GMT
#6328
Yeah srs dood don't feel bad about lying lol, it's how you play the game.

You got like quadruple healed by townies, it was a good game.
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