Catastrophe Mafia

On April 01 2014 23:50 Koshi wrote:
Oats shennanigans
scary thought.

On April 03 2014 11:58 gumshoe wrote:


What do you think of Yamato? Do you bilieve he'd provoke rayn right out the gates like this as scum?

On April 03 2014 12:01 yamato77 wrote:

that seems like a reach

On April 03 2014 12:02 gumshoe wrote:


Do you think he's incapable of playing into his own meta? What has he contributed so far in comparison to how much effort it looks like he's spent?

Why do you think Rayn is scum?

On April 03 2014 12:06 strongandbig wrote:


This is really not always the case... People's thresholds for voting are very different depending on the player

On April 03 2014 12:07 Killing wrote:


You thought it took effort to say Policy Lynch after every quote?

On April 03 2014 12:27 Killing wrote:


There's a few possible scenarios if you're scum. You could be waiting for someone to give a read that might end up being wrong in the end if they flip scum, you might want to pidgeon hole them into a read that you hope will make them look scummy. You're still my top scum read because of the amount of fluff and the feigning participation you've done.

On April 03 2014 12:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On April 03 2014 12:40 LSB wrote:

I have no info about the button, even I, someone who is wise enough to realize the importance of unsealing the CATASTROPHE cannot fathom what the CATASTROPHE will bring

On April 03 2014 12:43 Hopeless1der wrote:

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On April 03 2014 12:48 WaveofShadow wrote:

Do get my phonecall?

On April 03 2014 13:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
that was like halfway down the page...Oats had to have the perfect picture I guess.

On April 03 2014 13:17 Paperscraps wrote:


I have skimmed the thread up to this point. Because I can. No idea yet.

On April 03 2014 23:04 IAmRobik wrote:

If he's saying this then in a way he's soft defending me. Don't get it twisted...that is 100% a soft defense. Maybe he's doing it as town cause he's afraid to take a solid stance on me. Maybe he's scum doing it so that he doesn't have to take a solid stance on me being town. I don't know the exact rationale, but believe you me, this is DEFINITELY a soft defense.

On April 03 2014 23:14 IAmRobik wrote:

That's all fine and dandy from your POV, but like -- I don't play that way. So you won't find me sucking up to people and trying to befriend them during the game. I'm gonna be aggressive. I'm gonna take weird fucking stances that no one is going to understand and I'm going to tell you what I'm thinking when I'm thinking it.

As for the first part of what you're saying -- I know mislynches happen, but fuck that. I never wanna mislynch and I never wanna be mislynched.

On April 03 2014 23:18 syllogism wrote:

I've made my motives quite clear.

On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.

On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet

On April 04 2014 00:07 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone else want to input on what their favourite tl mafia game mechanic was?

On April 04 2014 00:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
Ok Oats is scum because he's trying too hard to be calm and rational, when he just isn't calm and rational as town.

That's basically it.

On April 04 2014 00:25 kitaman27 wrote:
GreYMisT manipulated me into joining two games at once against my will. Going to focus on the other game until the lynch deadline which is relatively early and then catch up on this one tonight.

On a side note, I don't anticipate using this power unless something thinks of a good application so I might as well share it. I can learn the number of kp used during the night at the expense of increasing the radiation level. I'm not really sure what that does, but that power doesn't seem useful enough to warrant finding out. It does probably mean that there will be a ton of kp floating around though.

On April 04 2014 00:26 Dandel Ion wrote:

No you're playing too pro-town, not too well.

You bank on the Cheesecake effect, where people think playing pro-town actually make you town. This is not the case.

I have said nothing about the quality of your play.

On April 04 2014 00:28 Holyflare wrote:


You think he's lying about his role?

On April 04 2014 00:30 kitaman27 wrote:


Why are you suggesting that I'm not going to play this game?

I shared it because I didn't see a reason not to share it.

Going to focus on the other game until the lynch deadline which is relatively early and then catch up on this one tonight.

On April 04 2014 00:32 Keirathi wrote:

If you don't think he's lying about his role, then 2 questions:

What is the point of that role as mafia?

And 2, why would mafia claim it?

On April 04 2014 00:33 Dandel Ion wrote:

yeah i know i dont expect him to be lynched to day

i do it all for the i-told-you-so cred points.

On April 04 2014 00:34 kitaman27 wrote:


It doesn't. Are you saying that I'm suggesting it does?

Gave the time line because that's when I'm going to be available. That doesn't mean I'll be contributing less, it just means I'll be contributing later in the cycle.

On April 04 2014 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Isn't that what you usually do?

On April 04 2014 07:20 Blazinghand wrote:


I would like to note there is a certain serendipity that like for the first time ever RNG has landed on scum. In a way, by voting paperscraps we will be proving that RNG is wroth it. Plus, it's not like D1 lynches actually ever do better than RNG ever right

On April 04 2014 14:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
To clarify, my scumread on Vayne /is/ a combination of him impersonating me in the QT and playing lurkville in the thread while saying arguably thread relevant things in the QT. Alone those things could possibly make Vayne town. Together it seems like he's playing with an agenda.

##Unvote
##Vote: VayneAuthority

On April 04 2014 14:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe he thinks I play along with it, it's just a QT after all. But I thought that it was weird when he does that, while simultaneously does nothing in the thread.

On April 04 2014 15:19 VisceraEyes wrote:

They just confused because I said I didn't mind when he said he's a troll. But when I confronted him about being absent from the thread he excused it by complaining about its length, while he had previously been making statements about the game from a presumably informed standpoint. It's contradictory, I don't like it and I think it's scummy.

On April 04 2014 15:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
im not even death haha, I guess he forgot about that when he said that. I can't kill shit, so dw about that. I don't actually think sandro is scummy or anything

On April 04 2014 15:48 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah honestly i'm still in the process of catching up but i'm very very comfortable with where my vote is now. i'll keep you in the loop as the situation develops

On April 04 2014 15:43 WaveofShadow wrote:

Probably because he thinks he's scum?
Again, looks like town Foolishness to me and at the very least his contributions are in earnest, but it just bothers me that his play is so extremely similar to Shadow (minus the flavour-trolliness).

Foolishness if you're around maybe you can actually comment in your roundabout way as to why BH is actually town? Are you just assuming the Balla/BH lynch is something scum would jump on or can you admit the replacement factor has merit?

And hey BH, maybe you know if you want to prove yourself you should do something?

On April 04 2014 15:55 Blazinghand wrote:


I've already caught one scum so far in ps, give me a break i can catch like one scum per 24 hours at maxspeed bro

On April 04 2014 15:58 Blazinghand wrote:


well apparently everyone likes my case so we're set

On April 04 2014 15:57 WaveofShadow wrote:

ps?

Oats in Shadow Foolishness only posted a few times per cycle in massively huge cases, and barely interacted with anyone directly all game until the day he was lynched.

On March 30 2014 03:15 yamato77 wrote:
I will be posting lots of posts regardless of alignment, and of questionable quality.

On April 04 2014 16:09 yamato77 wrote:
I am posting quite a few posts, most of which have questionable quality.

On April 04 2014 16:56 Koshi wrote:

Is marv town?

On April 04 2014 17:12 Koshi wrote:
meh. ok I guess I can be seen as scummy then.
I'll just sit back some more then.

On April 04 2014 17:32 Koshi wrote:

Somewhere it is true that marv with big filter is town.
BUT
He doesn't want to have a big filter as town anymore. So why is he having a big filter now? Also filter is lacking imo. Iirc from shadw game scum marv is more +1ish as scum. With 1-2 decent ideas between it but he doesn't weigh on the thread as much as when he is town. However, it's a big game so I can wait a while.

Are you upset I called you scum and I am now taking advice from you? Because. I can.

On April 04 2014 17:37 Koshi wrote:

Why would he look shit as town? Can you pinpoint me to a game he looks like shit as town?

On April 04 2014 16:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
My role is anti-town to clarify. and narcissistic. I wasn't going to get night killed anyway so I dont see any harm in revealing this

On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote:
i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va

On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:


because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him

there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.-

On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:


Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town....

Paper scraps best lynch

On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:


are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town

On April 04 2014 21:36 marvellosity wrote:

If you disagree with the points I've put forwards, say why. Don't just go "bleh", that helps no-one and nothing.

On April 04 2014 21:40 marvellosity wrote:

Actually you're reaching horribly and I don't really know why.

On April 04 2014 21:43 marvellosity wrote:

VA in shit-tonne of his games never does anything townie as town. In fact he's known as being more "townie" and reasonable as mafia. You know this.

Claiming, unnecessarily, an anti-town role is actually somewhat townie. But no, apart from that he hasn't done anything townie. Sadly this does not make him mafia. You know this too.

On April 04 2014 21:42 Holyflare wrote:


So, you have 3 sketchy people on this lynch. Yet you don't try and push any of those 3 sketchy people for a lynch, instead, you just complain there are sketchy people on a person that makes reads that don't add up, as proven just now?

You then talk more about VA, who COULD be town or COULD be scum than your scummy looking people rather than talking about the person of conversation at the time?

Why are you being so weird oats?

On April 04 2014 21:49 Holyflare wrote:


I don't see what's hard to comprehend about him claiming an anti-town role?

On April 04 2014 21:57 marvellosity wrote:

Why is it claiming scum? Explain to me very simply.

On April 04 2014 22:54 Holyflare wrote:


why do i care about taking stances on anyone? got facts to back stuff up there buddy?

i liked what you said and subsequently took my scummy read on you and threw it away because you know... you're actually doing something with your read now

gumshoe defended austin really weirdly after people had already done it so added nothing and then after doing that started questioning austin about why he was doing scummy looking stuff which is definitely weird

and scummy people attack lsb

@tehpoofter: I know you are calling Balla a girl in those that post and I remember rereading another game where you did the same thing. Would you share your reasons for pretending to misunderstand his gender? Did it give you any reads or useful information in the other game?

On April 04 2014 23:01 marvellosity wrote:

Do you know whether he is town or scum? Assuming iamp is town, how does Foolishness accusing iamp mean that iamp magically knows Foolish's alignment?

On April 04 2014 23:08 marvellosity wrote:

How do you find out someone's alignment who hardly ever posts and isn't in the thread at the same time as you? What do you expect iamp to do exactly?

On April 04 2014 23:12 marvellosity wrote:

So you want him to guess. Wonderful.

Foolishness may have to be dealt with with roles.

On April 04 2014 23:21 kitaman27 wrote:


I don't like this post from iamp. Suggesting that Balla was trying to look good for suggesting a random lynch is ridiculous. In what world does Ball enter the thread, decide that he needs to do something that is going to make him look townie, and then the best plan is can come up with is voting paper for no reason remotely related to the the thread? That's his suggestion for appearance?

I don't have the same issue that Foolishness does with the 1-liners, but the posts that he have made don't do anything. I'm willing to lynch him today.

##Vote iamperfection

I take back my town read on Amiko. He has focused on two topics this game: paper's backwards writing and robik's immunity claim. When I point out that the self imposed post restriction is just as likely to be a town action, he doesn't attempt to convince me otherwise or really state his opinion of the matter at all, even though it is his only reason for the vote as far as I can tell.

Hope has a 2 page filter and hasn't even commented on any events this game. He looks bad even for his standards.

Killing has focused on a single player. Doesn't appear to be figuring things out.

I'm still waiting on syllo and Keirathi to do something of note.

I don't have the same problem with poofter and Koshi anymore so I won't bring them up. The "I might shoot mafia, but that isn't alignment indicative comment" sounds townie to me, even if it probably shouldn't. Waiting on Koshi for role reasons.

On April 04 2014 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
The people I won't lynch today under any circumstances:

rayn/Dandel/syllogism/iamp/IAmRobik/sandroba/jat*

*jat purely because he made me lol re: holy's filter, not because i find him particularly townie.

syllogism doesn't look amazingly townie but i don't think he's as useless as people are suggesting and there's no way i take that risk on day 1 based on what i've seen.

On April 04 2014 23:29 marvellosity wrote:
too irritating

On April 04 2014 23:41 kitaman27 wrote:


More waiting on content from Koshi. Spooked enough by role talk not to pursue d1.

As for paper, I think there are better choices. Backwards nonsense doesn't say much to me. His mafia game was much more wordy, but so was his town. Read changes on BH and VE change, when it they seemed like lynch preferences before.

I'd much prefer iamp or amiko if we have to compromise for the sake of majority.

On April 04 2014 23:54 kitaman27 wrote:


How is he my third scummiest dude? These players are higher up on the chopping block for me:

iamp
Amiko
Hope
killing
syllo
Keirathi
and maybe Koshi
(VE?)

On April 05 2014 00:08 Blazinghand wrote:


>realizes BH is right all along
>still doesn't want to admit i'm town

mfw

On April 05 2014 00:12 kitaman27 wrote:


Hmm maybe less mafia after reading through his filter again. I remember being unimpressed earlier, but his question about the purpose of Tehpoofter's question seems like he is following things logically. Probably closer to null the scum with that one.

On April 05 2014 00:16 kitaman27 wrote:


If enough people are telling me that I'm wrong on iamp, I'm willing to step off for today. I'll probably be pushing amiko or someone else instead.

For the sake of majority lynch, I'm willing to consolidate on paper since I don't have a town read, but I'm not going to settle 10 hours before the lynch. If amiko and paper both had the same chance of getting lynched, you would vote paper?

On April 06 2014 11:57 sandroba wrote:
Hit me up on skype @sandro.maculan

On April 06 2014 13:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
talk about what exactly? dont need to be a genius at this point to know LSB is scum.

On April 07 2014 19:49 Koshi wrote:
Well. If some townies want to make the machine I am up for it. Let me know by pm.

On April 07 2014 20:23 Dandel Ion wrote:
tells people to get on skype

quits skype because low phone battery

On April 07 2014 23:53 IAmRobik wrote:

I didn't even call him 100% confirmed scum. I just said he was being scummy based off of the way he was playing.

On April 08 2014 01:05 Holyflare wrote:
oats can i shoot you?

On April 08 2014 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:

This feels like fake.

On April 08 2014 08:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
voting oatmaster for shenannigan reasons only, disregard it. If anything bad happens to me oats/palmar are potential/probable mafia.

On April 08 2014 09:29 austinmcc wrote:
That thing was part of VA's 3P role in Aperture 2



Either a different role here OR someone is getting kilt OR some serious shennanies are occurring.

On April 08 2014 14:57 geript wrote:

I personally don't find Oats to be aggressive or offensive at all this game. This post is really odd for him. I'd lynch him just over this post alone. I know that he's changed a little bit as town, but often as town he's in your face. My dive of Oats says there's a bridle on town Oats nature which means he's scum. I'd definitely lynch him.

On April 08 2014 20:10 geript wrote:

Don't know. Don't care. Not going to waste time on wifom.

On April 08 2014 20:21 geript wrote:

VE's role claim makes sense from my perspective. He could be lying here and be a role cop or something but I kinda doubt it. If he's scum I accept his pocket for now. And with that I can go to sleep 2 hours late.

On April 08 2014 21:12 Holyflare wrote:
oats why aren't you super pushing va as scum anymore?

On April 09 2014 08:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe I should just shoot oats?

On April 09 2014 11:18 WaveofShadow wrote:

When did you do this?
Last night? Does he still have it?

On April 09 2014 12:23 strongandbig wrote:

how have i given up? yesterday was a pm day

On April 09 2014 12:36 Paperscraps wrote:
Well Oats is probably a bad guy is what is happening.

On April 10 2014 11:16 WaveofShadow wrote:

It 100% is because what he described is impossible.
Oats is scum.

On April 10 2014 11:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
What does your trap do, Oats.
I have been confirmed town by multiple sources.
If this fucks with me in any way, you're done and I'm fine with a 1 for 1 trade right now.
If you're town, then you need to help get rid of this shit.

On April 10 2014 11:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
I just got delayed info that wave was situated in orthanc. Lolol ezpz

On April 10 2014 12:46 Killing wrote:


Why do you care about wizards? WoS was a wizard if you read his roll pm.

On April 10 2014 13:06 geript wrote:

Claims JAT has to be scum, kills Wave. Like ezpz

On April 10 2014 13:08 geript wrote:
Excuse me and everyone else for not believing.

On April 10 2014 13:14 geript wrote:
I'm kinda surprised there isn't an instant majority on this lynch.

On April 10 2014 14:04 geript wrote:
Like you "have information" that JAT has lied about loads of shit and you don't even ask if he's a wizard at all? Like I'm not even going to bother.

On April 10 2014 16:35 geript wrote:
He also lied about a lot of shit.

On April 10 2014 17:38 Palmar wrote:
Oats are you willing to die for your sins?

On April 10 2014 17:54 Palmar wrote:

Well you did lie to me didn't you?

On April 10 2014 19:57 sandroba wrote:
Plenty of people claimed scum for no reason so I dont get your point. Yes I dont understand it either but it doesnt change the fact.
syllo lsb iamp ve you jat all claimed scum or anti town so yeah? A bizarre way of playing indeed.

On April 10 2014 23:49 strongandbig wrote:
VE needs to die for checking palmar when it made no sense, and for not checking on night 2 like he said he would.

oats needs to die for (admittedly) lying about his role the first time, for (most likely) lying about his role the second time, and for killing wos.

On April 11 2014 00:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why?! I'VE BEEN A PART OF EVERY SCUM LYNCH AND CALLED OUT A TON OF SCUM ALL GAME LONG! IF I'M TOWN YOU SHOULD BE ALL "Man VE was so right all along, I'm pissed at MYSELF for not seeing it!" INSTEAD OF PISSED AT ME!

On April 11 2014 01:42 IAmRobik wrote:
Hey oats. At this point, if you're town, you fucked us. I don't care what your "additional" wincon is. It's obvious that you could have killed him at any damn time before the game ended, but you chose to do that today, when we still don't have all of the mafia figured out, and certainly there are still mafia alive. If you happened to make this "blunder" as town, well then we are stuck playing the game at an even further disadvantage -- but that's primarily your fault and well, yeah, that's about all i got. You're dying today for that shot and if you flip town, the rest of us will reevaluate after the flip