|
On April 06 2014 03:25 yamato77 wrote:Going to just go through a player's filter per post and note what I find suspicious/townie Starting with Syllo So, the best way I've found to read Syllo is how he pushes lynches/suspicions. As either alignment, he is capable of looking inquisitive and as if he's trying to figure out the game. However, if he's town, his mafia reads are much more fleshed out and he pursues them obviously throughout. Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 17:31 syllogism wrote:On April 03 2014 15:36 Tehpoofter wrote:Why haven't we pushed the button yet? Seems like a good idea. On April 03 2014 12:50 justanothertownie wrote:On April 03 2014 12:47 Keirathi wrote:
It seems like Killing's basic argument boils down to something like this:
*Teacher puts 2 math problems on the board*
Guy 1: "Can you explain that first one again? I don't get it."
Teacher: "Okay, here you go!"
Guy 1: "Thanks, I got it now."
...................
Guy 2: "Wait, why didn't you ask for the explanation to both the problems? WHAT IS GOING ON WHY ARE YOU FAKING IT?"
Guy 1: "Because I only didn't understand the first one."
Guy 2: "DIE SCUM LIAR". Ok, but Guy 2 is a tool then. Naa its just joey you're have to excuse him he's canadian. Ask him about numbers that gets his pee-pee going. On April 03 2014 11:34 Keirathi wrote:
FWIW, my problem with Robik is how hyper-sensitive he's been. One mention of his name and he's all like "Are you trying to kill me?" Or "Dandel is singling me out!" (which wasn't the case out all).
It's just super defensive for no reason. Is he just always like that? Only when he's mafia. On April 03 2014 09:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ACtually i don't even care. I won't get lynched in a game where marv is too or if i do you can straight up lynch him next. O really? Can't lynch you huh? ##Vote: Raynpelikoneet This post feels awkward to me even as a troll. In the subsequent post you postulate that, based on your video mafia experience, robik is really excited as town and you aren't seeing that here yet. You have at least some previous forum mafia experience, so I've a hard time believing that you can't see the difference between the formats. Was your genuine expectation that Robik's post would immediately convey the same kind of excitement and do you actually think that he has "quit"? That is, do you think that Robik was serious when he said he "would be back on day 2"? Here is his first post, and what I think is his first read. Obviously it isn't a strong one, but I wonder if he follows up. Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 21:43 syllogism wrote:On April 03 2014 19:41 marvellosity wrote:On April 03 2014 19:34 IAmRobik wrote:On April 03 2014 16:20 Paperscraps wrote:
.early this other each at dirt throwing be would scum that unlikely Seems .VE out calling is Robik that is though weird is What .IAmRobik on read his with agree somewhat I .far so doing is Tehpoofter what like I
.unusual play his find I ,about talked be not need that bond special a shard we Although .warranted t'wasn really it when ,me defended also He .awkward is it press to wanting to ,button the defending from switch His .game this scum be could VisceraEyes
.do can item the what on updated all you keep will I .ways uncontrollable and weird in affected being is speech my that is it having to downside The .power great of item an found have I ,searching my In
I fucking hate you Daniel. For those of you having trouble reading this post, I'm pretty sure that the whole thing needs to be read from the bottom up and from right to left (obv), otherwise the context doesn't make sense. I'd also like to mention, that I think Daniel posting like this is absolute bullshit, but you TL people would probably have a better handle of whether Greymist would make someone go through all this effort of typing in reverse. That's really fucking hard to do and I'm not sure that that would actually be a game mechanic, but knowing Daniel, that's something that he'd do to make the game more fun/interesting/difficult for himself I think Greymist could do this. More pertinently, it seems like a fuckton of effort to go through to write everything backwards. It's not something I'd ever see myself doing unnecessarily (as mafia presumably) because fuck that shit. It takes no effort at all. In fact, if you go here, copy paste his post and choose "flip wording", you get a perfectly normal post with no errors at all, spacing and all. That suggests it was done automatically rather than manually. Did this not occur to you? It is reasonable to believe that Greymist would realize such tools are available and I don't think it's likely he that would make a role with a posting restriction that takes no effort on the part of the person with the role. It also just makes the game more annoying to read and as far as I know, there are no previous Greymist roles with posting restrictions. If you agree, do you think this says something about Paperscraps? He offers up more information here, similar to his first post, but fails to come to any conclusions of his own. He's being "helpful", but I don't see any direction with his posting. Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 23:07 syllogism wrote:On April 03 2014 22:59 IAmRobik wrote:On April 03 2014 22:30 Palmar wrote:On April 03 2014 22:19 IAmRobik wrote:On April 03 2014 22:17 Palmar wrote:On April 03 2014 22:14 IAmRobik wrote:
I hate that Palmar is town this game.
I learned new term in awful foreign land. ROBIK IS TMI-ING PRETTY HARD NOW. Although I can't verify, not sure i'm town. TMI = too much info? Did I TMI when I called you out as mafia instantly? You still give me 0 fucking credit. Fucking pathetic Initially, you think I'm weak. So you call me mafia. Then you realize, I am strong. You must try to win my favor. I am sorry Robik, I don't believe in violence. But we must investigate. Investigation shall be performed using a rope and a tree. I hope this does not come between us. I mean. If you are town then you're trying to lynch another town, so that's playing against your win-con. I know mine says something along the lines of I win with town.I don't need to win anyone's favor. I'm not here to make friends. I'm not here to make anyone feel good about themselves. I'm here because I like competition and because I want to win. I am town, thus I'm trying to solve the game. I don't think you're a strong player. I was told by Mattchew that you're good, but I didn't see any good town play from you in Foundations and I was able to determine that you were mafia based off of one measly sentence in Heavyweight Champ. You are clearly smart so you know mafia is a game of incomplete information and thus townie attempting to lynch a townie is unavoidable. So why are you saying something like this? It looks off to me; something a carleess mafia is more likely to say than a smart townie.As for the rest, the best way to win as either alignment is by making friends, even if just for the duration of the game. There's a few posts like this in his filter where it's just "general game advice". He seems to suggest there in the bolded that Robik could be "careless mafia" for this, yet I don't understand the tone of the rest of this post (and it's predecessor, also aimed at Robik) with that read in mind. Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 17:28 syllogism wrote:On April 03 2014 20:28 Tehpoofter wrote:
@those awake currently what are your thoughts on Oats/ WoS? This looks strange given that Oats is/was one of your strongest town reads. What were you hoping to gain from asking this question? Robik: As I understand it, you are a bit more familiar with tehpoofter's play. He understandably was fixated on you early on, but hasn't really been doing anything since then besides asking, from my perspective, unfocused questions. On the other hand, he seems carefree; what do you think? Here he follows up on both threads so far, somewhat, by asking Robik what he thinks of Poof. I suppose this counts as continuity, at least. Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 02:41 syllogism wrote:
The difference in effort Gumshoe has put in cell mini and this game is drastic. Him saying that he sometimes decides to be lazy if a game doesn't interest him isn't sufficient given the contrast. Does his QT content look any better?
Gumshoe: I'm not expecting miracles from your answer, but could you attempt to enunciate as to why this game doesn't interest you? Obviously angling for a gumshoe vote. Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 04:46 syllogism wrote:
Gumshoe has made 39 posts in the other game since his last one in here and the lynch deadline in that game isn't even today.
I'm leaving in 30 minutes and it doesn't look like paperscraps lynch needs any help to reach majority, so that's where my vote is going.
##vote Gumshoe This seems off, especially with the bolded. Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 05:05 syllogism wrote:On April 05 2014 05:02 Holyflare wrote:On April 05 2014 05:02 syllogism wrote:
Kita is right about the discrepancy between gumshoe's activity in cell mini/doctor who being almost as large as in here/cell. Hard to contextualize the activity, but it does weaken my point. Perhaps tehpoofter is a better lynch. are you disregarding paperscraps who literally just said "i can't be bothered to defend"? No, paperscraps is a good lynch, but that remark was in the context of the best use of my vote given that that lynch isn't going to need any help and I won't be here to switch later. Consistent, but still iffy. Why wouldn't he just vote for the majority? Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 05:02 syllogism wrote:
Kita is right about the discrepancy between gumshoe's activity in cell mini/doctor who being almost as large as in here/cell. Hard to contextualize the activity, but it does weaken my point. Perhaps tehpoofter is a better lynch. We see the beginnings of a switch, but he doesn't commit here. Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 05:57 syllogism wrote:On April 05 2014 05:41 sandroba wrote:
Still not liking the paperscraps lynch. I'm inclined to go with tehpoofer if we can get enough support.
That exchange with him and marv where he says he doesn't trust marv, therefore won't be voting paper is already a mafia tell, making assossiative reads with imcoplete information and not even reading the content of the case. But then he goes and does a complete 180 votes paper and vanishes after marv pressures him a bit. His initial Robik read also feels disingenuous. On April 03 2014 15:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
As for really non-trolly reads. I think that iamrobik might be scum. In video mafia when hes town hes really excited and throws out town reads left and right and he started to do that but then he had his mafia tell where he just quits... I think if he rolled mafia it would be a good cop out for not posting a lot as mafia to have this fight with Dand(although robert does just have a temper we will see). I also wasn't terribly swayed by his case on iamp.
This was very early into the game and the bolded doesn't actually have anything to do with this game. Could he have genuinely felt that robik had started giving out town reads, but then quit doing that at that stage of the game? That just seems like a blatant misrepresentation. ##unvote
##vote Tehpoofter Again, we see his vote leaving the majority pack and heading off to no-man's-land. Why would he switch now instead of earlier, when he noted the weakness of his gumshoe read and the possibility of poofter being a better lynch? Overall, I don't feel that he's made a strong read on any one person. His attempts at finding a lynch seem weak, and I don't like the timing of his voting. Fairly suspicious of syllo right now.
syllo is most likley non town because when sandro asked him a question he didnt respond directly. sandro what do you think
|
On April 06 2014 09:00 Acrofales wrote:NIGHT ACTION DEADLINE.
![[image loading]](http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/355/8/b/vicious_the_burden_experiment_by_darkn355s1ay3r-d35d2js.jpg)
Do not post until the daypost (which may be a little bit late). Any night actions sent in late will not be counted.
Isn't the deadline 9pm Eastern?
|
Oh nvm there's a resolution period
|
What all pms to anyone?
Also I one shot doctored sandroba and gave him gumshoe's power for the day so someone is gonna get dayvigged
|
sadroba was that the dayvig I gave you that killed bh?
oats I'll PM you but you know you could also pm me if you wanted o talks about something.
|
Wait why didnt by use his spell to make the nuke not land? Unless I'm misinterpreting the way the role is written he could hav just done that. And revived Marv.
|
On April 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 01:36 Holyflare wrote:
why is "death" a dt? that is the biggest crock of shit i've ever heard he is able to peer into the soul of his target, identifying any malicious intent
"who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men"
|
|
|
On April 08 2014 04:36 LSB wrote:
I apologize for being inactive, I've been really busy. I need to get some sleep x.x
##Vote: syllogism
DT Claim, scummy, playing much more passively than before, I don't think I've seen a read in his filter last time I checked.
. . . . . . .
|
austin you've been talking a lot about this holyflare role confusion thing but why does it make him scum
break down the scenario for me
like, are you trying to say it's a literal scumslip because he didnt know how the town wincon was phrased? or is there something more than that?
|
On April 08 2014 05:42 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 05:39 austinmcc wrote:On April 08 2014 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:On April 08 2014 05:35 Killing wrote:On April 08 2014 05:32 austinmcc wrote:On April 08 2014 05:28 Killing wrote:On April 08 2014 05:22 austinmcc wrote:
Can I stop spamming about this and......Oats and Killing and someone read this and give thoughts? Oats, Killing, VA! My thoughts: Who gives a shit about the color of my role. No, different thoughts. If you don't think anyone should give a shit about the color of a role, then do Holyflare's thoughts and actions make sense to you as coming from a townie? Do they make sense as coming from a scum? Do they make sense as scum slipping and trying to cover up that slip? Do they just not make sense period? As posted above, I think it's probably coming from a townie POV. As scum, it's probably a bad idea to argue over semantics and make yourself look bad. I think there's probably a reasoning over the difference in coloring the role but not one that is currently visible to the town nor the one that HF is proposing. It's townie to trying and figure it out though. If he was mafia, anyone that wins with town is his enemy anyways so he probably wouldn't care much. The only way it would be a good play as mafia is if he's trying to drum up paranoia or some shit but it doesn't make any sense. He didn't bring that up to talk about it. He was forced to because what he says doesn't add up. This is the "It's scummy to do scummy things as scum, so scum wouldn't do scummy things" argument. It is usually a mafia argument, and often mafia defending mafia Dude, what are you even saying? Do you think Greymist used a bunch of different colors cause he felt like making the game prettier?
If your answer is yes, then enjoy your stay in lala land
If not, there's a reasoning.
i just saw this. this is hilarious
|
On April 08 2014 06:43 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 06:32 austinmcc wrote:I'd kill Killing. Townies defend people who do scummy stuff by saying "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but this case is different because of x, y, z" or "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but I think these other things he's done are townie, and overall he's townie." Scum defend people who do scummy stuff by saying "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but scum don't like being scummy, so him doing a scummy thing makes him town." (BECAUSE HOLY CRAP THE MOMENT YOU MAKE THAT ARGUMENT ONCE, EVERYONE IN THE GAME EVER WHO DOES SCUMMY STUFF IS KINDA TOWN IN YOUR BOOK AND THAT MAKES NO SENSE) On April 03 2014 12:05 Killing wrote:On April 03 2014 11:59 sandroba wrote:
I don't think any button discussion is going to get us anywhere. How about we see what people decide to do and talk about it when it becomes relevant? My initial guess is most of us don't want CATASTROPHE in our lives right now. You're assuming the catastrophe will be town specific. It's possible that it makes the game harder for mafia and 3p at the same time. I think we also have to put some value on the button. We need to know how important it is to have it guarded or try to deactivate it compared to using our town powers. It might be that it's better to have weaker roles guard the button rather than carry out their business. If we don't make a plan to deal with the button, mafia might just make a rush for it if they assume the consequences will fall on the town side. Here, Killing is of the mindset that perhaps that Catastrophe is good for town. This is true, we don't know what the Catastrophe is, and whether it's good or bad. On April 07 2014 08:48 Killing wrote:On April 07 2014 08:47 Hopeless1der wrote:On April 07 2014 08:45 Dandel Ion wrote:On April 07 2014 08:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
I dunno, I pushed the button zz did you forget that was an option? I need CATASTROPHE™ to occur if I'm going to make any money. So you're not town......... Here, Hopeless is not town because he wants Catastrophe to happen. Implying that Catastrophe is bad for town only. Which is the opposite of the above. We have learned nothing about Catastrophe, are entirely unsure what it does. Killing argues that it MIGHT be beneficial to town, perhaps, but then that Hopeless is scum for wanting it to happen. Yeah, I retract my townread.
on killing?
|
On April 08 2014 06:45 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 06:37 austinmcc wrote:On April 08 2014 06:34 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2014 06:28 austinmcc wrote:On April 08 2014 06:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've never played nor read a greymist game hence my confusion and only knowing about lemming from the award thread. Unless you're implying i have read them in which case i knew lemming was a mafia role from last game and still would be 0% inclined to start talking about it day 1 That is mainly in response to Killing asking me what my "theory" about the color difference is. Also, I will continue to maintain that you DID talk about your role D1. Just look at my first posts. I was pretty confident you were EXACTLY what you're claiming to be, because who asks those questions repeatedly. The only reason anyone would ask about fun past games, or neat mechanics, is because they've got that role or a similar role. What...? I'm saying i DID talk about it how are you being so dense. I am saying that it proves I'm not mafia because if i was mafia i got a traditionally mafia sided role and then started talking about it in thread straight away which would be suicide. That does not add up at all! Unless you're implying i have read them in which case i knew lemming was a mafia role from last game and still would be 0% inclined to start talking about it day 1 You're saying that you DID talk about it, but saying that you WOULDN'T talk about it if you were mafia. I disagree with that. Yeah, we're not meeting heads on here, you DID talk about it, we agree, you WOULDN'T talk about it as mafia, we disagree there. "Traditionally" is a stretch. And again. What you're arguing is that when someone talks about that role, people will assume they're mafia. THAT is your reason for saying mafia wouldn't talk about having this role.
But nobody assumed you were mafia for your role. 29 people, 0 assumptions. So your argument that mafiaHoly wouldn't talk about his role is WEAK at best, MEANINGLESS to me, because we KNOW that people don't do what you are saying you think they would. THIS IS WHAT IM SAYING, why would i take that risk!?!?!?!? how can i predict the future that everyone would just put it aside, if i was mafia HOW DO I KNOW that powers don't = alignments, I CANNOT know that unless i got a mafia role but in a town (or what i thought was 3p town win con) alignment!
i mean your team could tell you, this is a pretty bad argument.
still this whole argument is rpetty bad. how about you two keep talking about killing or whatever else you can think of thats not this.
|
On April 08 2014 11:50 Holyflare wrote:if jat killed foolish there are then 3 scum kills, that means there are 5-6 scum only, we killed 2 so there are 3-4, originally we assumed there was 7 or 8 in which case we'd be against 5 or 6 scum now. VA knows the amount of people in a scum team this game. Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 11:22 VayneAuthority wrote:On April 08 2014 11:21 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2014 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:On April 08 2014 11:18 justanothertownie wrote:
If you value my opinion - you should remain careful. I have no idea why syllo and especially iamp gave up so easily but it doesn't seem like town has this in the bag. Iamp didn't even try to fight back for some reason. have you seen the rest of their team? it starts with LSB and one of the 2 horrible horses left in my division. They are close to the end. so you're saying it's a 4 man mafia team vs 26? yea man and then the other 2 players are me and me I actually hold two slots in this game.
That assumes there were no successful medic protects or roleblocks on scum night one though.
|
|
|
On April 09 2014 11:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Anyway va could be totally demoralised. And geript super angry with his team. And snb and paper have given up. That sounds about right.
btw I gave double vote to sandro so hes doubly important now.
how have i given up? yesterday was a pm day
|
On April 09 2014 12:25 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 06:37 IAmRobik wrote:
OK. I'm about to catch up. The only thing I want everyone to note is that foolishness is complaining a lot about the spam, but like 95% of the words that he posts are just filler. He BARELY gives opinions on anything -- the only real stances that I can remember him taking were 1) iamp being mafia and 2) he read someone town earlier, but I forget who it was.
Please do not be fooled by the long "newspaper" posts that he's making. THEY HAVE VERY VERY LITTLE SUBSTANCE TO THEM!
I pmed you plenty early, you're just in a shitty timezone. And I posted during the night phase, just not in the thread.
|
That was suppose to quote oats, oops
|
yeah srsly
thats the thing about pm games, figuring everything out is fun but then everyone just sits back and waits for stuff to happen
i'm waiting for some specific stuff to happen
|
I don't plan on having anything delivered to me
In terms of danger of being shot, on the one hand I'm town and not going to get lynched so I'm a target if scum goes for a numbers game, plus I'm using my abilities, so yes, but no more than other people on the current "town list". I mean i'd like it if you protected me, but I'll have to take a second to think if I'm the best person to protect
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT![[image loading]](http://i.imgflip.com/80ys4.jpg)
