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raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 21:51 GMT

#301

On April 02 2014 06:44 gumshoe wrote:

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THANK YOU. Dammit why dont other people get this?

Because should not be decided right now.
D2 can be set in stone. D1 can't.

D1 should be the group that has 2 people that are incredible easy to read as town and are confirmed town. I think discussing a D1 lynch group should be done after 35h in this game.

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 21:52 GMT

#302

On April 02 2014 06:49 getmoript wrote:

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Fuck no. Then we aren't lynching prplhz

Hey but lynching townies is okay! We need to be able to trust your reads!
Remember geript. This is your logic, so why does it fail now?

~rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 21:54 GMT

#303

DUNKED!

~rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:01 GMT

#307

On April 02 2014 06:58 getmoript wrote:
Know what, I'm a lock. Lynch me. Know prplhz is scum then lynch Rayn and Slam. Make me mayor and I'll set it up. Like no way Rayn is town here.

Yeah you can stop posting now so we can actually talk about something that does not include shitlogic.

~rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:05 GMT

#310

On April 02 2014 06:59 prplhz wrote:
@getript can you fix your huge dumb post or what

On April 02 2014 05:57 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

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1) You thought I was town based on my post this game.
2) You don't think I am town because some meta reason that you didn't check. (So you go back on your townread for a reason that you basically pulled straight out of your ass.)

I didn't check the things you said about rayn his posts.

↓written by Geript
No, it was based on the fact that you posted on your account early into the game. Like I was already logged onto this account and I think you're the type of player who really enjoys playing town. So posting early like that would be semi-alignment indicative of you rolling town this game. The problem is that I have a super hard time reading you and just trust Rayn on reading you honestly, the problem though is that I don't like rayn's posting this game and it's not like I can ask him for a read on you. So me not saying I think you're town (early when you posted) isn't a bullshit read, it's just an impression that I got but one that I dismissed because I don't think it's relaible and it'll be way easier for me to read rayn to get your alignment than it will for me to try and read you. [/QUOTE]

On April 02 2014 05:19 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

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On April 02 2014 05:12 getmoript wrote:

On April 02 2014 05:07 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

On April 02 2014 05:03 getmoript wrote:

On April 02 2014 04:58 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

On April 02 2014 04:56 getmoript wrote:

On April 02 2014 03:47 prplhz wrote:
so maybe the mayor doesn't matter much

so how we rank these groups. i think we should have annoying unreadable players on d1 since more time with them isn't going to give us more information. there's a small consideration in that we kind of might get people's flip when their group is up so it might be a good idea to put a group with good players in d3 so later towns have something to go on for sure.

dunno though, all of these groups seems okay. if anything, i think cell4 is a good group for first lynch.

Rayn you liked this post and I absolutely hate it. Why in the world do you like this post? This is an awful post and you should know why? You roll scum?

I just figured it out. I was approaching the game stupidly and from the wrong perspective.

~rayn

So explain why I'm right and help push for me as mayor or die.

I just made a post about it. Or asked other people about it.
You lynch the groups where you know mafia is and make the order based on reads after ~40 hours or so. If there are similar groups / a lot of unsureness you first pick the groups where there are players who are most likely not paying attention later on in the game (for example kush is never going to reread the thread, ever).

But who gets to be the mayor does not matter. If you can explain to me why does it matter go ahead.

~rayn

No I don't like your reasoning. I'm not saying you're wrong on what you've said (skimmed), but the stance:

On April 02 2014 03:47 prplhz wrote:
so maybe the mayor doesn't matter much

Is a super odd stance for a towny to make. It's neither stating, "I don't fucking care who mayor is and I don't fucking care about the order" OR "I super care about who the mayor is and what the order is." I've seen and played in a number of odd games and I've taken a number of unique stances about things myself, but I don't think I've ever seen a stance that's so bland about it. Like that's a really, really weird way to approach this game and I'm not liking you right now for not picking up on this specifically.

Why does prplhz's "stance" mean anything? That's not what i read. Or, it's what i read but what i read between the lines is "prplhz doesn't care about who the mayor is and if prplhz talks about mayor election or who should be the mayor much in this game he is probably scum because he didn't care about it". I agree it does not matter shit who the mayor is.

So can you now explain why it matters and if you can't why are you talking about this shit? You are starting to annoy me.

~rayn

↓written by Geript
Specifically, this is why I think Rayn is scum. I'm clearly town here. Cav is clearly town here. Rayn not finding prplhz's stance odd and asking "Why does prplhz's stance mean anything" is a really bad question from him. He's played a number of PYPs etc and he's seen a number of very odd stances but I can't think of a single game where I've ever seen town come out and say, "Maybe this mechanic doesn't matter." It's not a stance where prplhz is flat out saying something like I did in PYPLOL, "The bans don't matter and I don't care about them. I'd rather use this time to find scum." It's not like the stance that Rayn took in that game either where, "Bans 100% matter and we should 100% ban out GF/Framer type roles." The fact that prplhz doesn't take a hard stance on either end is SUPER ODD. Rayn not helping to pressure prplhz more because of that is really questionable and Rayn 100% loves to chainsaw onto town to protect his scumbuddies. To explain more:

VE has a meta read on prplhz which is "If he brings up policy d1 he is scum." All he did early on was policy about random stuff hydras etc. Plus he had that exceptionally weird "maybe the mayor doens't matter stance." I'm going to put the stamp of approval 100% as confirmed scum on prplhz. It literally doesn't make any sense. Rayn backing up prplhz stance saying, "I don't think the mayor matters either" isn't the questionable thing to me. That's a normal stance to take. It's specifcally the "MAYBE the mayor doens't matter." Adding in maybe there is ridiculously odd and Rayn not reading it that way especially when prplhz finishes the post saying that he cares about the order of the lynches WHICH IS WHAT THE MAYOR DECIDES is super weird. I have a really hard time thinking any towny could ever post that. So Rayn trying to pressure me here instead of prplhz is super suspect.

On top of that, Rayn should 100% have a supertown read on me right now and should not have retracted his vote for me for mayor. Me/Cav are such obv town it's not even funny. Him not townreading me here when he 100% should is really sketchy. Plus when you read prplhz's filter like none of it makes any sense whatsoever. I have to go to work and would explain more but I'll let Cav step in and explain why you guys should clearly be voting GETMORIPT for mayor.
~g

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:05 GMT

#311

On April 02 2014 07:03 getmoript wrote:
Rayn is scum here

he isn't though.

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:16 GMT

#317

On April 02 2014 07:12 gumshoe wrote:

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That is exceptionally optimistic of you Rayn to think well catch scum easy before day 1, but honestly if were playing it that way, day 1 should be someone whose alignment we need to know the most, not someone whose guaranteed scum, I mean if your so certain geript is mafia just put him in slot 3(so hes at least guaranteed to be killed before town loses) and have 1 and 2 reserved for people with large influence but questionable loyalties.

seriously bro? Not guaranteed scum?

D1 is not some fucking egotripping lynch in which we lynch the loudest townie who thinks he fucking solved the game. Which you seem to indicate.

If anything we lynch scum in the group of the best D1 player in the game and are guaranteed that he and the third are townies and giving an honest opinion.

Which goes back to LYNCH FUCKING SCUM AND NOTHING ELSE.

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:18 GMT

#319

Scummy point for gumshoe.
1) For defending geript.
2) For not wanting to lynch obvious scum but suggesting it is better to lynch a townie who thinks he solved the game.

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:21 GMT

#322

I suggest we lynch Cell 4 first. Alakaslam is mafia. You can take this as a fact regardless of my & geript's alignment because we are clearly not both mafia, if one of us is mafia they are bussing because we know how the other one reads Slam and if we are both town the read is genuine either way.

If there is one thing i agree with geript it's that Slam is scum.

geript if you are town stop the shitlogic and find scum. Right now your cases are based on you not reading properly and bad logic as pointed out multiple times.

~rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:22 GMT

#323

On April 02 2014 07:18 Palmar wrote:

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Sure, but it feels a lot easier to just have to read two filters really. I like the attention.

This is dumb. Trading yourself for a lynch between 2.
you got 48 hours to find
1 confirmed townie.
1 semi confirmed town.
1 scummy looking townie.
in 1 groupd

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:26 GMT

#328

On April 02 2014 07:24 gumshoe wrote:

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The goal for town is to win the game, those who blindly lynch those they THINK are scum rarely see the big picture and end up missing crucial points. If we had an honest guaranteed scum who wont tell us anything with his flip why kill him? Hes not going anywhere and it would be more important to use the lynch to answer questions. This is less true in other games because were not sure of all the variables, but here we know exactly how far we can push, the setup is utterly open and we need to catch relations(which are guaranteed to be there cause a third of us are scum) and encourage conversation to win, lynching "confirmed" scum does neither of these things. Honestly I'm just not convinced atm that Geript is scum / : so this whole conversation is irrelevant.

I am also not convinced that geript is scum & this fact has nothing to do with the conversation we are having. What a silly statement to make.

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:26 GMT

#329

On April 02 2014 07:24 Palmar wrote:

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Yes but there's also the advantage that I don't really get lynched as town so we have a 50/50 shot of getting my group right.

Btw does everyone in a group flip, or only the person lynched?

only person that is lynched.

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:28 GMT

#331

gumshoe. rayn signs his post.
I am Koshi.
you are really miles away from where I am on how to solve this game.
MILES away.

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:30 GMT

#334

oh great you are in my group.
that's really awesome tbh.

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:30 GMT

#336

On April 02 2014 07:29 gumshoe wrote:

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On April 02 2014 07:26 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

On April 02 2014 07:24 gumshoe wrote:

On April 02 2014 07:16 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

On April 02 2014 07:12 gumshoe wrote:

On April 02 2014 06:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

On April 02 2014 06:44 gumshoe wrote:

On April 02 2014 06:42 Palmar wrote:
I like the redundant ~rayn part of your posts.

I'm okay with going in on day 1 with my group. It's by far my best day anyway.

THANK YOU. Dammit why dont other people get this?

I am also not convinced that geript is scum & this fact has nothing to do with the conversation we are having. What a silly statement to make.

Bolded is news to me.

we are an hydra.

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:30 GMT

#337

On April 02 2014 07:25 Palmar wrote:
Why is slam mafia btw rayn?

Not happy. Happy Slam is town, sad Slam is mafia.

~rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:31 GMT

#338

On April 02 2014 07:30 prplhz wrote:

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i'm going to leave now because everybody is ignoring me

also it's late

I totes made geript his post readable for you.

ps. I love how active you are.

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:34 GMT

#344

On April 02 2014 07:29 LSB wrote:
I have no idea what town is to gain from lynching Slam first. I admit that I can't read slam, so I'd be perfectly fine bandwagon a little off your read, however you remove me and balla from the equation quickly. If you are that confident that slam is mafia, a day 4 ( 3rd lynch) of cell 4 would be best allowing me and balla to contribute for more days.

grrr. Somewhere I agree even though I was yelling to lynch lynch 100% scum alway earlier.
Balla looking pretty good to me.
LSB got townread from rayn. Also I liked your post.

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:35 GMT

#346

On April 02 2014 07:32 LSB wrote:
Holy shit this hydra thing is confusing.
Rayn thinks geript is mafia, Koshi thinks he isn't.

Or did I mis something?

WTF

Yes, hydras do not share a brain. The only thing they share is an account. So it's 2 possible different opinions all the way.

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

April 01 2014 22:37 GMT

#347

On April 02 2014 07:32 LSB wrote:
Holy shit this hydra thing is confusing.
Rayn thinks geript is mafia, Koshi thinks he isn't.

Or did I mis something?

WTF

I am not sure any more.
For clarification. Here is from our QT:

rayn: I suggest don't talk to geript. There is nothing good that can come out of him.
Koshi: hmm seems like I don't remember shit from survivor. He isn't this aggressive at all there. Puts geript at null (for me) atm.
Koshi:

dat not posting, dat not talking to geript
Koshi:
rayn: Yeah now i really stop. I don't know if he is town or scum i just want him to fucking stop posting.
rayn: But i 100% agree with geript Alakaslam is mafia. But he might be bussing because he knows i know if Slam is scum or not from the beginning.

~rayn

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