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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 02 2014 21:55 GMT
#1144
prplhz could you share some interesting reads that are not from our cell and not geript?

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 02 2014 22:03 GMT
#1148
So your scumread on me is:
1) I should have a town read on you
2) I have not read prplhz's filter

so here we go:
1) i am not even going to say anything about this because that's ridiculous
2) i have paid attention to prplhz's posts. The point where i talk about his "evolution of reads" i talk about our cell, the way he called gumshoe mafia and when Steveling started flip-flopping he took a step back and re-evaluated his read on them two. made posts about thinking Steveling is scum and then going back to Steveling being scum. I have never ever talked about any Balla read, so what you say about that can't possibly be true. I am not giving prplhz 100% town pass, i have never said so. I have said he looks way townier than you do. I read prplhz townish because usually he doesn't even have this much in his filter!!! That's why i literally said "in this game he has done MORE TOWIE THINGS THAN USUALLY. Usually when people do more townie things than usually as town they are not mafia.

~rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 02 2014 22:05 GMT
#1150
Like geript can you try to form one read that's not pure shit?

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 02 2014 22:08 GMT
#1151
On April 03 2014 07:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Like geript can you try to form one read that's not pure shit?

~rayn

I mean, you can't really think someone is going to buy that "rayn should call me town therefore he is scum" shit?
You can't possibly think someone is going to think i am mafia because of it, especially when that's your 1 of 2 reasons and the other reason is "this other dude in my cell should not look townier than me" which is basically the same thing.

~rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 02 2014 22:12 GMT
#1154
And speaking of reads geript. You have one scumread (me) and one townread (gumshoe).
Both of the reads are based on bad reasoning. Apparently you have a scumread on prplhz (noone knows why).

Do you really think it's fair for you to call prplhz out for not having any reads? Because to be honest you don't have many reads and the few you have are based on bad reasoning.

~rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 02 2014 22:24 GMT
#1157
On April 03 2014 07:18 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 07:08 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On April 03 2014 07:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Like geript can you try to form one read that's not pure shit?

~rayn

I mean, you can't really think someone is going to buy that "rayn should call me town therefore he is scum" shit?
You can't possibly think someone is going to think i am mafia because of it, especially when that's your 1 of 2 reasons and the other reason is "this other dude in my cell should not look townier than me" which is basically the same thing.

~rayn

TOWN i WANT TO BE EXCEPTIONALLY CLEAR HERE
Point 1 is not: Rayn isn't calling me town, therefore he is scum. Rayn specifically stated that he and I quote, "like his (prplhz's) read on you (geript)." The point is specifically that Rayn in anyway at any point reading prplhz should have and would have (if rayn were town which he is not) points that prplhz has brought up that are heavily indicative of my town meta.

Point 2 is not: prplhz should not look townier than me. Point 2 is based on the fact that Rayn is clearly not looking at specific players for specific reasons which he usually does. He's specifically reading the game differently than he does as town and therefore Rayn is scum.

#1:Yes i like the posts where he says you are talking shit, like you are.
You can't just quote some random post and say "look here prplhz says something that's not my meta". I am talking about all the posts in total, and prplhz has pointed out multiple times your bad logic and i have agreed with him.

#2 Incorrect as i explained earlier. I made another post which you apparently missed.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 02 2014 22:26 GMT
#1158
For the record prplhz does not even read you scum for the posts you quoted in your case so it's you who is not reading properly. He literally fucking asks "is this something geript usually does".

So stop bullshitting geript and go hang!

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 02 2014 22:34 GMT
#1160
Geript can you now finally tell us why you think prplhz is mafia?

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 02 2014 22:47 GMT
#1162
On April 03 2014 07:42 getmoript wrote:
I have. But you called it shit logic remember? You know just like how my Toad read was shit logic despite the fact that your scum read on Vivax was 100% the same thing in mspaint mafia.

Nah that's not true.
So why didn't you counter my counter-arguments to your prplhz case? I told you what i disagreed with, apparently noone believes you and you don't give a fuck. Why?

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 02 2014 22:48 GMT
#1163
Like there is scum defending scum against your amazing case and you are not yelling the thread that's the case.
As town geript... really?

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 02 2014 22:50 GMT
#1164
Same town!geript who was so sure of Holyflare being mafia that he got so mad he got himself modkilled?
Are you serious, same guy doesn't give a fuck about 100% mafia defending another mafia.
See my problem with geript people?

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 02 2014 22:51 GMT
#1166
But yea, whatever. I'll go watch a movie and wait for the other game to start.
I don't like asking same question five times.. It makes me mad.

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 02 2014 22:56 GMT
#1169
prplhz if you could comment on mderg/poofer/HF aswell. At least from th top of your head.
I'll look more into this in two hours.

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 03 2014 00:31 GMT
#1193
I'll go through everything with Koshi tomorrow. I think we have a lot of shit on the table already as we are only 24h into the game. geript i try to explain my read on prplhz for the last time and if you are town you gotta stop this shit and start paying attention.

Until tomorrow i'm off.

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 03 2014 02:13 GMT
#1205
geript calls himself "obvious town" and says "you should read me as town" only as mafia.

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 03 2014 02:54 GMT
#1213
On April 03 2014 11:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 11:13 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
geript calls himself "obvious town" and says "you should read me as town" only as mafia.

~rayn

A quick look at cultured mini mafia (where he was VT) brings me the opposite.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=confirmed&t=ct&f=-1&u=geript&gb=date&d=

A lot of references to geript being "confirmed town by rayn". Also in Boardwalk we see this too.

Examples:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444078-cultured-mini-mafia?page=121#2404
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444078-cultured-mini-mafia?page=131#2619
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444078-cultured-mini-mafia?page=134#2669

multiple references in BW to being towny rather than "confirmed town", but point still stands -

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/403766-boardwalk-empire-mafia-pick-your-power?page=155#3100
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/403766-boardwalk-empire-mafia-pick-your-power?page=167#3324

Yeah in a situation where he actually should have been considered confirmed town.
120 pages into the game, not 24h into D1.... rofl Sentinel.

Go look at Survivor series.

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 03 2014 03:20 GMT
#1225
LSB how are you "most likely to solve the game" when you have given zero reads in this game?

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 03 2014 03:23 GMT
#1226
On April 03 2014 12:19 Tehpoofter wrote:
So I'm really glad that I just read through 20 pages of gum/rayn fighting. Going into it I had a town read on rayn scum on gum and null on steve. Coming out of it gum looks even scummier steve looks scummy and so does rayn tbh. (there has to be 2 towns in each group right?)

Like I could make cases on all of you guys,
GUM: basically to me Rayn's case on gum is really strong he pretends to set some trap that doesn't work (but seems like it would only catch town if it did work) and then calls rayn scum for it. I thought rayn refuted his claim pretty well and answered some questions on it. Balla brought up a good point last night about how gum accussed rayn of doing the same thing he was doing in ignoring steve and being scummy for it. I think gum went into mega defensive mode and just started throwing shit at rayn and rayn did the same until rayn saw gum say he swears hes town.

Rayn: Looks good for his case on gum then does this 180 and instantly believes him on the thing he said about swearing. I find it really odd that logical rayn town would drop his biggest case on someone he knows has a 50/50 of being scum just because he said one thing. This makes rayn look scummier in my eyes because he might have felt like others would see that and if he kept tunneling he would out himself if he were scum so he hipster switched so he could be the first one to say thats the case. (For me this means nothing btw its a game about lying I expect anyone in here would say anything to not look more town as scum and I would never fault anyone for it, I'd swear on my grandma's grave I was town and my grandma isn't even dead) So I find this really odd of rayn to switch here.

Steve: Steve then has like the weirdest reaction ever and says someone is cheating and starts getting all emo and bent out of shape about something that to me just made his cellmate rayn look more scummy and changed nothing on my read on gum. So If I was steve I would be asking the mod why he put two scum in my group not going on about cheating and such.


So after 20 pages of bullshit-in-fighting of one cell if this were a normal game I'd probably lynch all of them and assume I hit at least 2 scum. In this game sadly only 1 is scum and 2 are town. So rayn's case on gum looks like it comes from a town point of view and maybe he is just a reactionary player and did the swap onto steve because he has some weird set of mafia morals that I would never follow so I'll give rayn the town pass here. (Now later on in the thread I think he makes other contributions to be more townie as well so this got strengthened even more so)
Steve emo quitting reminds me of rayn doing the same thing in Titanic about coag being a hydra. Rayn emod for a couple hours and turned out to be town here so I'm going to assume thats what is happening here cause I still haven't seen gum do anything really very townie and there can be only one scum. (I also have more reasons on steve here in a second based on another read.)


Right now Scum=Gum, Rayn = Town, Steve = Town cause gum is scum.

I'd just like to say this is exactly what scum would have wanted in this game and why my plan was amazing and if you guys focused elsewhere the reads would be more spread out and varied and could be scumx2 or 3xtown or something but instead we have 20 pages of fighting that might net us 1 scum and thats only if one becomes obvious which to me it hasnt. /end rant on my system as I still read Balla/Rayn as town and they both think its shit.


More on other scum that popped up during the Cell 1 Battle royale.

Congratulations you just made a 1000 word post that started with:
gumshoe is mafia and ended with:
gumshoe is mafia

PROFIT!

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 03 2014 03:27 GMT
#1229
On April 03 2014 12:25 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 12:23 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:19 Tehpoofter wrote:
So I'm really glad that I just read through 20 pages of gum/rayn fighting. Going into it I had a town read on rayn scum on gum and null on steve. Coming out of it gum looks even scummier steve looks scummy and so does rayn tbh. (there has to be 2 towns in each group right?)

Like I could make cases on all of you guys,
GUM: basically to me Rayn's case on gum is really strong he pretends to set some trap that doesn't work (but seems like it would only catch town if it did work) and then calls rayn scum for it. I thought rayn refuted his claim pretty well and answered some questions on it. Balla brought up a good point last night about how gum accussed rayn of doing the same thing he was doing in ignoring steve and being scummy for it. I think gum went into mega defensive mode and just started throwing shit at rayn and rayn did the same until rayn saw gum say he swears hes town.

Rayn: Looks good for his case on gum then does this 180 and instantly believes him on the thing he said about swearing. I find it really odd that logical rayn town would drop his biggest case on someone he knows has a 50/50 of being scum just because he said one thing. This makes rayn look scummier in my eyes because he might have felt like others would see that and if he kept tunneling he would out himself if he were scum so he hipster switched so he could be the first one to say thats the case. (For me this means nothing btw its a game about lying I expect anyone in here would say anything to not look more town as scum and I would never fault anyone for it, I'd swear on my grandma's grave I was town and my grandma isn't even dead) So I find this really odd of rayn to switch here.

Steve: Steve then has like the weirdest reaction ever and says someone is cheating and starts getting all emo and bent out of shape about something that to me just made his cellmate rayn look more scummy and changed nothing on my read on gum. So If I was steve I would be asking the mod why he put two scum in my group not going on about cheating and such.


So after 20 pages of bullshit-in-fighting of one cell if this were a normal game I'd probably lynch all of them and assume I hit at least 2 scum. In this game sadly only 1 is scum and 2 are town. So rayn's case on gum looks like it comes from a town point of view and maybe he is just a reactionary player and did the swap onto steve because he has some weird set of mafia morals that I would never follow so I'll give rayn the town pass here. (Now later on in the thread I think he makes other contributions to be more townie as well so this got strengthened even more so)
Steve emo quitting reminds me of rayn doing the same thing in Titanic about coag being a hydra. Rayn emod for a couple hours and turned out to be town here so I'm going to assume thats what is happening here cause I still haven't seen gum do anything really very townie and there can be only one scum. (I also have more reasons on steve here in a second based on another read.)


Right now Scum=Gum, Rayn = Town, Steve = Town cause gum is scum.

I'd just like to say this is exactly what scum would have wanted in this game and why my plan was amazing and if you guys focused elsewhere the reads would be more spread out and varied and could be scumx2 or 3xtown or something but instead we have 20 pages of fighting that might net us 1 scum and thats only if one becomes obvious which to me it hasnt. /end rant on my system as I still read Balla/Rayn as town and they both think its shit.


More on other scum that popped up during the Cell 1 Battle royale.

Congratulations you just made a 1000 word post that started with:
gumshoe is mafia and ended with:
gumshoe is mafia

PROFIT!

~rayn


You gumshoe fought for 20 pages and its what I got out of it I will gladly waste 1000 words saying what took you guys 20 pages. You should have just ignored him rayn let the scum battle you and move on. Now onto more reads.

I literally can't ignore him because these towns nowadays are retards and might even lynch me for not commenting on retarded shit. Trust me i know what i am talking about!

~rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
April 03 2014 03:29 GMT
#1232
On April 03 2014 12:28 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 12:27 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:25 Tehpoofter wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:23 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:19 Tehpoofter wrote:
So I'm really glad that I just read through 20 pages of gum/rayn fighting. Going into it I had a town read on rayn scum on gum and null on steve. Coming out of it gum looks even scummier steve looks scummy and so does rayn tbh. (there has to be 2 towns in each group right?)

Like I could make cases on all of you guys,
GUM: basically to me Rayn's case on gum is really strong he pretends to set some trap that doesn't work (but seems like it would only catch town if it did work) and then calls rayn scum for it. I thought rayn refuted his claim pretty well and answered some questions on it. Balla brought up a good point last night about how gum accussed rayn of doing the same thing he was doing in ignoring steve and being scummy for it. I think gum went into mega defensive mode and just started throwing shit at rayn and rayn did the same until rayn saw gum say he swears hes town.

Rayn: Looks good for his case on gum then does this 180 and instantly believes him on the thing he said about swearing. I find it really odd that logical rayn town would drop his biggest case on someone he knows has a 50/50 of being scum just because he said one thing. This makes rayn look scummier in my eyes because he might have felt like others would see that and if he kept tunneling he would out himself if he were scum so he hipster switched so he could be the first one to say thats the case. (For me this means nothing btw its a game about lying I expect anyone in here would say anything to not look more town as scum and I would never fault anyone for it, I'd swear on my grandma's grave I was town and my grandma isn't even dead) So I find this really odd of rayn to switch here.

Steve: Steve then has like the weirdest reaction ever and says someone is cheating and starts getting all emo and bent out of shape about something that to me just made his cellmate rayn look more scummy and changed nothing on my read on gum. So If I was steve I would be asking the mod why he put two scum in my group not going on about cheating and such.


So after 20 pages of bullshit-in-fighting of one cell if this were a normal game I'd probably lynch all of them and assume I hit at least 2 scum. In this game sadly only 1 is scum and 2 are town. So rayn's case on gum looks like it comes from a town point of view and maybe he is just a reactionary player and did the swap onto steve because he has some weird set of mafia morals that I would never follow so I'll give rayn the town pass here. (Now later on in the thread I think he makes other contributions to be more townie as well so this got strengthened even more so)
Steve emo quitting reminds me of rayn doing the same thing in Titanic about coag being a hydra. Rayn emod for a couple hours and turned out to be town here so I'm going to assume thats what is happening here cause I still haven't seen gum do anything really very townie and there can be only one scum. (I also have more reasons on steve here in a second based on another read.)


Right now Scum=Gum, Rayn = Town, Steve = Town cause gum is scum.

I'd just like to say this is exactly what scum would have wanted in this game and why my plan was amazing and if you guys focused elsewhere the reads would be more spread out and varied and could be scumx2 or 3xtown or something but instead we have 20 pages of fighting that might net us 1 scum and thats only if one becomes obvious which to me it hasnt. /end rant on my system as I still read Balla/Rayn as town and they both think its shit.


More on other scum that popped up during the Cell 1 Battle royale.

Congratulations you just made a 1000 word post that started with:
gumshoe is mafia and ended with:
gumshoe is mafia

PROFIT!

~rayn


You gumshoe fought for 20 pages and its what I got out of it I will gladly waste 1000 words saying what took you guys 20 pages. You should have just ignored him rayn let the scum battle you and move on. Now onto more reads.

I literally can't ignore him because these towns nowadays are retards and might even lynch me for not commenting on retarded shit. Trust me i know what i am talking about!

~rayn

Yah but lynching scum is always PROFIT!!!!!

Yeah that's why we lynch you. <3

~rayn
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