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On April 12 2013 10:47 Mocsta wrote:
I prob down with a
Shevlocke/Geript lynch
if you shooting OO
otherwise
OO/Shevlocke (for that showtime VT thingo)
We can talk tonight about this, but you should read my filter again first.
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On April 12 2013 10:49 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 10:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 12 2013 10:31 Mocsta wrote:
And then there is this stupid bickering with Sn0, who is prob CPR Medic based on claims thus far. Things that I am NOT: CPR Medic WTF lol so its possible the role was WIFOM'd out of the game.. funny wasnt sharrant obsessed with that role before? And now he is "vt" going for detective?
I wanted that role blocked, yes. But I was picking halfway down the list, there's not a chance I'm actually blocking the role if I go for it. so I went with something that suited my character.
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On April 12 2013 10:50 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 10:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 12 2013 10:31 Mocsta wrote:
And then there is this stupid bickering with Sn0, who is prob CPR Medic based on claims thus far. Things that I am NOT: CPR Medic Just claim already. I actually can't even understand why you're not claiming at this point.
He has claimed. Well, he didn't directly say the words, but he's the inventor.
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Awww, I was gonna let people continue to not pay attention and miss things 
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On April 12 2013 10:51 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 10:49 Mocsta wrote:On April 12 2013 10:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 12 2013 10:31 Mocsta wrote:
And then there is this stupid bickering with Sn0, who is prob CPR Medic based on claims thus far. Things that I am NOT: CPR Medic WTF lol so its possible the role was WIFOM'd out of the game.. funny wasnt sharrant obsessed with that role before? And now he is "vt" going for detective? I wanted that role blocked, yes. But I was picking halfway down the list, there's not a chance I'm actually blocking the role if I go for it. so I went with something that suited my character.
Did realise DT was synonymous with lurking, but watevs.
Why would u think DT is not a popular role?
+ I thought you may have tried to confirm it rhough VT.
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On April 12 2013 10:51 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 10:50 Sharrant wrote:On April 12 2013 10:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 12 2013 10:31 Mocsta wrote:
And then there is this stupid bickering with Sn0, who is prob CPR Medic based on claims thus far. Things that I am NOT: CPR Medic Just claim already. I actually can't even understand why you're not claiming at this point. He has claimed. Well, he didn't directly say the words, but he's the inventor.
LOl of course.... wait
so wats OO then?
what if he is CPR...
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On April 12 2013 10:50 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 10:48 Sharrant wrote:On April 12 2013 10:44 Mocsta wrote:On April 12 2013 10:41 Sharrant wrote:
The GF's ability that "covers" a player, does it obscure their flip as well? Like, if he made someone appear as a certain role and alignment would the player revert to their actual role and alignment, or would they flip as what he covered them?
This just popped into my head, it may be a little paranoid but whatever:
The Godfather role says he can cover a player "CHANGING THEIR ROLE AND ALIGNMENT" as opposed to the framer which says "CHANGE HOW ONE'S ALIGNMENT APPEARS". This makes me think that it would obscure a flip as well. What if Caller didn't kill a mafia, what if Artanis was made to look like the assassin?
I think I'm getting really paranoid with that one, and BC will probably come in and say their proper alignment is revealed upon flip, but that would really change where we are in the game. Mod confirmed, the GF was a bonus meaning.. he chose a KP role; and had a Killer type Role PM. So I suspect this is paranoid, but we shall see when he responds I guess. Nono, the GF's ability. I know the GF part was a bonus. But Artanis might not have been the Assassin GF. If say, Sn0man (just picking a name at this point) had picked the role Godfather and used the ability to cover Artanis, would Artanis' death reveal his original role, or the role that he was covered with. To be frank, this is reading to me as a last minute WIFOM attempt before lynch deadline.
Then you're bad at reading, because I'm dead. It doesn't matter how it happens, I will die. Either I will be lynched, or I will be shot in the night by a townie if I am not lynched, solely because I escaped the lynch. Of that there is no doubt.
I'm trying to give the town as much information as I can possibly think of in the hour I have left to post.If the GF has that ability, it would explain a lot of the early game. So I want to make sure that it is either not possible, or that people know that it's something to be awareof.
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On April 12 2013 10:53 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 10:50 Mocsta wrote:On April 12 2013 10:48 Sharrant wrote:On April 12 2013 10:44 Mocsta wrote:On April 12 2013 10:41 Sharrant wrote:
The GF's ability that "covers" a player, does it obscure their flip as well? Like, if he made someone appear as a certain role and alignment would the player revert to their actual role and alignment, or would they flip as what he covered them?
This just popped into my head, it may be a little paranoid but whatever:
The Godfather role says he can cover a player "CHANGING THEIR ROLE AND ALIGNMENT" as opposed to the framer which says "CHANGE HOW ONE'S ALIGNMENT APPEARS". This makes me think that it would obscure a flip as well. What if Caller didn't kill a mafia, what if Artanis was made to look like the assassin?
I think I'm getting really paranoid with that one, and BC will probably come in and say their proper alignment is revealed upon flip, but that would really change where we are in the game. Mod confirmed, the GF was a bonus meaning.. he chose a KP role; and had a Killer type Role PM. So I suspect this is paranoid, but we shall see when he responds I guess. Nono, the GF's ability. I know the GF part was a bonus. But Artanis might not have been the Assassin GF. If say, Sn0man (just picking a name at this point) had picked the role Godfather and used the ability to cover Artanis, would Artanis' death reveal his original role, or the role that he was covered with. To be frank, this is reading to me as a last minute WIFOM attempt before lynch deadline. Then you're bad at reading, because I'm dead. It doesn't matter how it happens, I will die. Either I will be lynched, or I will be shot in the night by a townie if I am not lynched, solely because I escaped the lynch. Of that there is no doubt. I'm trying to give the town as much information as I can possibly think of in the hour I have left to post.If the GF has that ability, it would explain a lot of the early game. So I want to make sure that it is either not possible, or that people know that it's something to be awareof.
No, GF is not a death-framer.
End of that.
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On April 12 2013 10:50 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 10:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 12 2013 10:31 Mocsta wrote:
And then there is this stupid bickering with Sn0, who is prob CPR Medic based on claims thus far. Things that I am NOT: CPR Medic Just claim already. I actually can't even understand why you're not claiming at this point.
I think there is a bloodycobbler. My role is strong and I'm confirmed town. I'm in no rush to allow that particular KP to hit me, though I admit that it is quite likely I die tonight. I could get dayvigged by BloodyCobbler role if I claim now and therefore not be able to... use my role.
My soft claim: I happen to know some things about the invention last night that the thread at large doesn't know.
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On April 12 2013 10:51 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 10:50 Sharrant wrote:On April 12 2013 10:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 12 2013 10:31 Mocsta wrote:
And then there is this stupid bickering with Sn0, who is prob CPR Medic based on claims thus far. Things that I am NOT: CPR Medic Just claim already. I actually can't even understand why you're not claiming at this point. He has claimed. Well, he didn't directly say the words, but he's the inventor.
Interesting. I missed that one then. I'll guess that was where I marked I should reread what he was saying, but I was more interested in rereading StrongAndBig at that point.
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I actually don't think there's a BC in the game.
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On April 12 2013 10:53 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 10:50 Mocsta wrote:On April 12 2013 10:48 Sharrant wrote:On April 12 2013 10:44 Mocsta wrote:On April 12 2013 10:41 Sharrant wrote:
The GF's ability that "covers" a player, does it obscure their flip as well? Like, if he made someone appear as a certain role and alignment would the player revert to their actual role and alignment, or would they flip as what he covered them?
This just popped into my head, it may be a little paranoid but whatever:
The Godfather role says he can cover a player "CHANGING THEIR ROLE AND ALIGNMENT" as opposed to the framer which says "CHANGE HOW ONE'S ALIGNMENT APPEARS". This makes me think that it would obscure a flip as well. What if Caller didn't kill a mafia, what if Artanis was made to look like the assassin?
I think I'm getting really paranoid with that one, and BC will probably come in and say their proper alignment is revealed upon flip, but that would really change where we are in the game. Mod confirmed, the GF was a bonus meaning.. he chose a KP role; and had a Killer type Role PM. So I suspect this is paranoid, but we shall see when he responds I guess. Nono, the GF's ability. I know the GF part was a bonus. But Artanis might not have been the Assassin GF. If say, Sn0man (just picking a name at this point) had picked the role Godfather and used the ability to cover Artanis, would Artanis' death reveal his original role, or the role that he was covered with. To be frank, this is reading to me as a last minute WIFOM attempt before lynch deadline. Then you're bad at reading, because I'm dead. It doesn't matter how it happens, I will die. Either I will be lynched, or I will be shot in the night by a townie if I am not lynched, solely because I escaped the lynch. Of that there is no doubt. I'm trying to give the town as much information as I can possibly think of in the hour I have left to post.If the GF has that ability, it would explain a lot of the early game. So I want to make sure that it is either not possible, or that people know that it's something to be awareof. Artanis was also easy to talk to before death. So scum/town have the same motivation (to survive)
Look. thing is.. with all the roles out there.. why wouldnt the "real" assassin have shot a town contributor like keirathi by now?
etc.. i just dont think this argument holds weight.
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On April 12 2013 10:54 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 10:50 Sharrant wrote:On April 12 2013 10:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 12 2013 10:31 Mocsta wrote:
And then there is this stupid bickering with Sn0, who is prob CPR Medic based on claims thus far. Things that I am NOT: CPR Medic Just claim already. I actually can't even understand why you're not claiming at this point. I think there is a bloodycobbler. My role is strong and I'm confirmed town. I'm in no rush to allow that particular KP to hit me, though I admit that it is quite likely I die tonight. I could get dayvigged by BloodyCobbler role if I claim now and therefore not be able to... use my role. My soft claim: I happen to know some things about the invention last night that the thread at large doesn't know.
Pls tell me Keirathi hasnt been lying?
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On April 12 2013 10:54 Restraining Order wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 10:53 Sharrant wrote:On April 12 2013 10:50 Mocsta wrote:On April 12 2013 10:48 Sharrant wrote:On April 12 2013 10:44 Mocsta wrote:On April 12 2013 10:41 Sharrant wrote:
The GF's ability that "covers" a player, does it obscure their flip as well? Like, if he made someone appear as a certain role and alignment would the player revert to their actual role and alignment, or would they flip as what he covered them?
This just popped into my head, it may be a little paranoid but whatever:
The Godfather role says he can cover a player "CHANGING THEIR ROLE AND ALIGNMENT" as opposed to the framer which says "CHANGE HOW ONE'S ALIGNMENT APPEARS". This makes me think that it would obscure a flip as well. What if Caller didn't kill a mafia, what if Artanis was made to look like the assassin?
I think I'm getting really paranoid with that one, and BC will probably come in and say their proper alignment is revealed upon flip, but that would really change where we are in the game. Mod confirmed, the GF was a bonus meaning.. he chose a KP role; and had a Killer type Role PM. So I suspect this is paranoid, but we shall see when he responds I guess. Nono, the GF's ability. I know the GF part was a bonus. But Artanis might not have been the Assassin GF. If say, Sn0man (just picking a name at this point) had picked the role Godfather and used the ability to cover Artanis, would Artanis' death reveal his original role, or the role that he was covered with. To be frank, this is reading to me as a last minute WIFOM attempt before lynch deadline. Then you're bad at reading, because I'm dead. It doesn't matter how it happens, I will die. Either I will be lynched, or I will be shot in the night by a townie if I am not lynched, solely because I escaped the lynch. Of that there is no doubt. I'm trying to give the town as much information as I can possibly think of in the hour I have left to post.If the GF has that ability, it would explain a lot of the early game. So I want to make sure that it is either not possible, or that people know that it's something to be awareof. No, GF is not a death-framer. End of that.
That's good to know.
On April 12 2013 10:55 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 10:53 Sharrant wrote:On April 12 2013 10:50 Mocsta wrote:On April 12 2013 10:48 Sharrant wrote:On April 12 2013 10:44 Mocsta wrote:On April 12 2013 10:41 Sharrant wrote:
The GF's ability that "covers" a player, does it obscure their flip as well? Like, if he made someone appear as a certain role and alignment would the player revert to their actual role and alignment, or would they flip as what he covered them?
This just popped into my head, it may be a little paranoid but whatever:
The Godfather role says he can cover a player "CHANGING THEIR ROLE AND ALIGNMENT" as opposed to the framer which says "CHANGE HOW ONE'S ALIGNMENT APPEARS". This makes me think that it would obscure a flip as well. What if Caller didn't kill a mafia, what if Artanis was made to look like the assassin?
I think I'm getting really paranoid with that one, and BC will probably come in and say their proper alignment is revealed upon flip, but that would really change where we are in the game. Mod confirmed, the GF was a bonus meaning.. he chose a KP role; and had a Killer type Role PM. So I suspect this is paranoid, but we shall see when he responds I guess. Nono, the GF's ability. I know the GF part was a bonus. But Artanis might not have been the Assassin GF. If say, Sn0man (just picking a name at this point) had picked the role Godfather and used the ability to cover Artanis, would Artanis' death reveal his original role, or the role that he was covered with. To be frank, this is reading to me as a last minute WIFOM attempt before lynch deadline. Then you're bad at reading, because I'm dead. It doesn't matter how it happens, I will die. Either I will be lynched, or I will be shot in the night by a townie if I am not lynched, solely because I escaped the lynch. Of that there is no doubt. I'm trying to give the town as much information as I can possibly think of in the hour I have left to post.If the GF has that ability, it would explain a lot of the early game. So I want to make sure that it is either not possible, or that people know that it's something to be awareof. Artanis was also easy to talk to before death. So scum/town have the same motivation (to survive) Look. thing is.. with all the roles out there.. why wouldnt the "real" assassin have shot a town contributor like keirathi by now? etc.. i just dont think this argument holds weight.
I guess it's not an issue now, but because it would reveal that something was incorrect about Artanis' death. He'd have to wait to kill until the end of N2, and then it would just show up as a regular death, instead of as an anonymous dayvig.
And as I said earlier, I severely doubt the existance of a BC in this game.
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On April 12 2013 10:57 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 10:54 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 12 2013 10:50 Sharrant wrote:On April 12 2013 10:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 12 2013 10:31 Mocsta wrote:
And then there is this stupid bickering with Sn0, who is prob CPR Medic based on claims thus far. Things that I am NOT: CPR Medic Just claim already. I actually can't even understand why you're not claiming at this point. I think there is a bloodycobbler. My role is strong and I'm confirmed town. I'm in no rush to allow that particular KP to hit me, though I admit that it is quite likely I die tonight. I could get dayvigged by BloodyCobbler role if I claim now and therefore not be able to... use my role. My soft claim: I happen to know some things about the invention last night that the thread at large doesn't know. Pls tell me Keirathi hasnt been lying?
lol what?
He said earlier that he targetted me last night. Whether I am town or scum, I'm not going to lie about the invention. That would just be beyond dumb.
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Did austin just claim scum?
Applause for Sharrant going down like a boss.
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On April 12 2013 10:57 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 10:54 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 12 2013 10:50 Sharrant wrote:On April 12 2013 10:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 12 2013 10:31 Mocsta wrote:
And then there is this stupid bickering with Sn0, who is prob CPR Medic based on claims thus far. Things that I am NOT: CPR Medic Just claim already. I actually can't even understand why you're not claiming at this point. I think there is a bloodycobbler. My role is strong and I'm confirmed town. I'm in no rush to allow that particular KP to hit me, though I admit that it is quite likely I die tonight. I could get dayvigged by BloodyCobbler role if I claim now and therefore not be able to... use my role. My soft claim: I happen to know some things about the invention last night that the thread at large doesn't know. Pls tell me Keirathi hasnt been lying?
Wat? no he wasn't lying. The detail is utterly irrelevant. I guess technically "some things" isn't even true. It is a nice tidbit I had to prove myself to kei if he doubted.
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On April 12 2013 10:59 Vivax wrote:
Did austin just claim scum?
Applause for Sharrant going down like a boss. No, but if nobody caught RO straight up calling sn0_man out as the inventor, sn0_man admitting it, and half a page of discussing WHAT HE SHOULD INVENT, then ... I dunno how to better put the pieces together for them.
There's always the chance that the someone missing things is scum and the inventions can be a big help.
Again, especially for geript, this is why sn0 is almost certainly town, much more likely town than any other claim but justice vigi. As the top spot, he could have NOT invented, just stolen the role and claimed to be CPR doc holding shots or whatever. He could have invented something that wasn't pro-town (assuming a DT check pro-town, and since you can't trick folks with your inventions it is). Instead, he invented something that seems pro-town, which indicates heavily that he's town. All the invention ideas thrown out later were pro-town. So...EVEN IF HE'S SCUM, HE'S STUCK MAKING PRO-TOWN INVENTIONS.
But he's almost certainly not. Much more likely that we've got fake DT claims, or scum america, or scum mason, or scum plenty of things. But certainly not justice vigi, and probably not scum inventor. Ta da.
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OK.. can we focus on a consolidated vote pls
I going to assume you shooting (unclaimed OO)
then..
shevlocke, for VT as showtime
which DT checker do we want to lynch
so far we have austin/SnB/keirath/Sharrant
keirathi is off the block as far as i am concerned, boviously so is austin
So SnB or Sharrant?
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His head was on the block... Easy way to clear his name if he also has GF abilities. I'll read over it this weekend. I'd still shoot Sn0. He wants to claim confirmed town and not realize that I'm totes VT...
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