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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 04 2014 14:22 GMT
#1921
Yes kush, and <s>I have no idea why I would ever think the person who owns the account might be posting on it</s>. If I hadnt just played cultured I wouldnt have even considered it was you. Remove whatever saved passwords you have already.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 04 2014 14:27 GMT
#1922
Hope for clarity sake, could you post your results?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 14:56 GMT
#1923
(morning work post sorry for brevity)
Basically, I through some of the players (kita, vivax, austin). When I get back I read hopeless - then I see hopeless' information as inconsistent with his role claim. JJD verifies hopeless' claim. So it feels like either JJD, hopeless, or both are lying.
But, I do agree with JJD that based on the d2 interactions it is hard for me to think both of them are lying.

JJD do you get what rose red flags to me about hopeless' claim / information inconsistency?
Maybe I misunderstood hopeless but I reread it a few times and I don't think I did.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 14:58 GMT
#1924
Kita felt scum irrespective of the hopeless claim.
Vivax needs a reread because of his involvement so if Itake hopeless as lying I should reconsider him
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 14:59 GMT
#1925
last post for now sorry
(I'm not sure irrespective is a word, what I mean is even if I dont consider hopeless as lying kita felt scum)
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 04 2014 15:04 GMT
#1926
Vivax could be rolecop, roleblocker, janitor, etc.

Him targeting austin doesn't necessarily make him town for me.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 04 2014 15:08 GMT
#1927
for those who missed it:

Vivax visited your target.

JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 04 2014 15:20 GMT
#1928
On April 05 2014 00:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
for those who missed it:

Show nested quote +
Vivax visited your target.

missed what, this is the first time ur giving us ur results. And I think this kinda confirms what amiko is suspicious about. How did that result give you the conclusion that Rose was in the game?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 04 2014 15:21 GMT
#1929
Remember to send all kinds of night actions at latest 1h before the deadline to ALL hosts.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 04 2014 15:44 GMT
#1930
On April 04 2014 22:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
Vivax visited your target.


what the fuck is coagulation doing in this thread. I hope thats kush accidentally on his account from OMGUShydra

^its in there, if not explicit that it was my check.

As to assuming Rose is here...My fucking role TELLS me that my check is dependent on Rose being in the game. My role is beyond retarded if Rose isnt around to begin with, it is just a clusterfuck of ridiculous nightactions if I have no way to confirm my findings with from a second source.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 04 2014 15:49 GMT
#1931
On April 05 2014 00:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
As to assuming Rose is here...My fucking role TELLS me that my check is dependent on Rose being in the game.
No, the roleclaim you posted specifically says that your check is NOT dependent on Rose being in the game.

On April 04 2014 05:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
"You are Mickey Smith, ex-boyfriend of Rose Tyler. You hate it when she leaves on her escapades with the Doctor and have even taken to following her for what little time you see her. You are a watcher, but you target whoever Rose Tyler targets. (You never see Rose visit someone and if Rose isn't in game, it is a random selection of who you watch)
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 04 2014 16:00 GMT
#1932
On April 05 2014 00:49 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 00:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
As to assuming Rose is here...My fucking role TELLS me that my check is dependent on Rose being in the game.
No, the roleclaim you posted specifically says that your check is NOT dependent on Rose being in the game.

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 05:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
"You are Mickey Smith, ex-boyfriend of Rose Tyler. You hate it when she leaves on her escapades with the Doctor and have even taken to following her for what little time you see her. You are a watcher, but you target whoever Rose Tyler targets. (You never see Rose visit someone and if Rose isn't in game, it is a random selection of who you watch)

And I'm telling you that if Rose isnt in the game then my role is useless. In what universe does knowing that a player visited a RANDOM target help town? I DONT KNOW WHO WAS VISITED. There is no confirmation, there is no way to stop the person I saw from lying through their teeth and I WOULDNT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. My role REQUIRES Rose to be in the game for it to be even REMOTELY useful.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 04 2014 17:00 GMT
#1933
your target can be visited by multiple people and it would have a similiar effect. Though thinking about it, I'm not sure I really see how this would be scum indicative so my read on you remains the same.

Curious as to what amiko was getting @. Like yeah I see the inconsistency but what's it mean?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
April 04 2014 18:42 GMT
#1934
JarJar, do you agree on claiming what you did in resolution period in order to prepare for the massclaim we should probably do? The damage is done, scum knows you're blue if you're town and I think I might be the NK.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 04 2014 18:44 GMT
#1935
On April 04 2014 22:34 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Town:
Kush
Austin
Vivax

Null:
Hopeless - IDK, the claim seems legit on the surface but I can't get past everything else I was pointing out yesterday

Scum:
kita

These are people that I havent paid enough attention to so I'm gonna filter dive. But I'll post how I'm leaning

leaning town:
thrawn
tehpoof

leaning scum:
Djodref
Amiko

K done rereading. Haven't changed my reads much:

Thrawn - seems ok to me. He's questioning like everything and making sure people respond to stuff and give opinions. Nothing stands out as scummy.


Tehpoofter - I really hate his push on rayn and I still feel like he believed slams 3p claim way too easily. Haven't really seen much scummy from him since then though. nullish


Djodref - I don't know how Djo has been slipping under the radar so much. Just read his filter and I'll say he's my #2 scum read behind kita. He defended pooft a bunch when I was going after him and I really can't see why. He has very few scumreads @ all. Like he went after me for a little bit but then said he was only voting me for pressure and eventually moved me to the top of his townread list. He then said he thought hopeless was scum but didn't push him @ all and eventually backed off of him (before he claimed). He then only really focused on toad.


Amiko - scummy. Some of his thoughts early on I agreed w/ alot (like his slam stance). Some I didnt (like the rayn lynch). He also says he's against massclaiming but brings it up a bunch. Him saying he doesnt care who I nuke sounds like a really scummy thing to say. Like he wants to show he's not trying to protect anyone. And he does talk a whole lot about the nuke. And everything he's posted today is just terrible: having me and toad as a scumteam, or even worse, having me as scum that fakeclaimed to save a town hopeless, are just such absurdly bad thoughts to have.

Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 18:45:50
April 04 2014 18:45 GMT
#1936
Night actions are due in . After that, no more actions will be accepted. Make sure to send actions to all hosts.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 04 2014 18:45 GMT
#1937
I plan to roleclaim tomorrow. Mass claim seems like a good idea.

Whoever isn't accounted for probably is probably a recruiter or a mafia role like roleblocker, which seems likely in a setup with this many players.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 04 2014 18:51 GMT
#1938
On April 05 2014 03:42 Vivax wrote:
JarJar, do you agree on claiming what you did in resolution period in order to prepare for the massclaim we should probably do? The damage is done, scum knows you're blue if you're town and I think I might be the NK.
I had thought about whether or not I should say anything in the resolution period. No real reason for me to reveal what I'm planning on saying (if anything) before then.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 04 2014 18:53 GMT
#1939
I do agree that there should be a massclaim fist thing in the morning. I also think the scummiest people should claim first.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
April 04 2014 18:53 GMT
#1940
Also I would like if people took a look at thrawn and gave me their opinion cause I got the feelingz he might be mafia.

Toad mentioned this post earlier to argue he's mafia:

On April 01 2014 04:22 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey guys, fyi i wont be here till 30 min before deadline

i will say that i have read the thread and i'm not impressed with the push to lynch rayn but i'm not really willing lynch kita for it. usually weird trap plays that don't seem to make too much sense come from town, and that is enough for me to ignore kita's bad case against rayn.

as stated before i am soooo down to lynch a lurker. i notived some people mentioning gumshoe and i'm perfectly fine with that


Thrawn at this point had asked kita some stuff, then townread him, then said he got feelings that he could be mafia, then when rayn's lynch approaches he argues saying he WOULD lynch kita for the push on rayn, which as Toad already said is dumb when you don't know alignments, but he doesn't cause of the trap play.

I checked the post where kita explains his trap and the base upon which thrawn townreads him, but I still want to hear what thrawn's reasoning was for scumreading him before that post.

Anyway reading more on thrawn but he deserves a closer look. I also don't get how he got to wanting to lynch kita and Toad yesterday. No reasons given. Only "I would"
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