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kushm4sta
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kushm4sta
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kitaman27 - hella town Hopeless1der - probably town thrawn2112 - possible scum JarJarDrinks -possible scum Vivax - probably town Djodref - possible scum Amiko - possible scum Tehpoofter - possible scum | ||
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austinmcc
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On April 04 2014 07:12 kushm4sta wrote: Yeah. There are some posts like an hour before lynch that say why, but I like the way he pursued hopeless earlier today, and then ... there was something else. His reaction to Gumshoe's claim and that whole situation.austin you have a townread on vivax? I've not been overly scummy on him, but those push him far towards town for me. | ||
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austinmcc
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Tehpoofter
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On April 04 2014 07:19 kushm4sta wrote: austinmcc - hella town kitaman27 - hella town Hopeless1der - probably town thrawn2112 - possible scum JarJarDrinks -possible scum Vivax - probably town Djodref - possible scum Amiko - possible scum Tehpoofter - possible scum How is kita hella town to you? Also why is JJD the possible scum out of the claimed blue roles? | ||
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Tehpoofter
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On April 04 2014 06:11 austinmcc wrote: Things to do: - make everyone take stances on some people, we all need a few townreads and scumreads. Someone pointed out earlier that this was good because then folks have a hard time post-conversion. We're two days in, buncha dead people we don't want dead, we NEED people to make reads because then we can laugh at them when/if they get converted and we can murder their faces. Their red, red silver faces. - sorry toad - I'm serious about some kind of cyberman alert thing IF we have an inventor. I don't expect this to be a no-KP game, given we had a medic, but protection is good and stopping conversions is good. - we should look for awkward phrasing from people D1 on slam. It's a minor thing, but scum would KNOW he wasn't scum, and was likely 3P (or town, hi austinmcc). They may have overly used 3P language, undersold the chance he was scum. It's NOT A MAJOR THING AND IT'S NOT CONCLUSIVE, but there's a chance someone looks particularly odd. - Djo seems more townie because of the first popcorn. This is stupid, but I continue to find him townie. On April 01 2014 19:05 Tehpoofter wrote: Thread is dead again. I'm going to bed. Gum please speak at some point that would be amazing. @everyone, who do you think would use the extra vote that occurred on rayn and why? There is basically a confirmed vote manipulation mechanic no one is claiming it and it was used to lynch a town blue so like no way I can see its town sided role. Also before the night ends I think everyone putting in a top 2 town/scum reads (and including Slam is automatic bullshit) would be really useful to pigeon hole people who might be converted to scum in the night. Refusal to do this will be looked upon by me as scummy. This needs to be done and it didn't happen. I pointed it out last night but would be useful tonight for sure. I'll list mine next then going to read up on the other games I'm in while working so ill check back in infrequently. | ||
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kushm4sta
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thrawn2112
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Tehpoofter
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We also have other claims at being blue Watcher from hopeless, Kush says hes day vig plus double vote (you didnt use your power today I'm assuming based on the vote counts), Vivax, JJD some types of visiting roles. Also There is someone who gave a nuke to JJD as he said he didn't make it. So we're looking at assuming all roles are blue, 7 blue town power roles and a 3P survivor that seems insanely high to me unless mafia has some big role maybe kill + conversion and I would think points to there being 2+ on the first day or it doesn't seem very balanced. I'll say it now but I think one of the blue roles is most likely mafia, or at the least 3P. Now maybe thats not the case but that only leaves Me, Austin, Kita, DJO, Amiko Thrawn (I believe) and for me I think kita/Djo would be the only possible scum team there I mean Amiko maybe cause of Austin's case I could maybe see him being that constructed but it still reads town so doesn't ping as super scummy to me. So my list of reads atm: Town Hero: Tehpoofter Town: Thrawn Austin Blues: (I think one is scum hopeless claim is the most townie cause it seems silly for scum to claim when they did.) Kush reaction was good to gum even though he shot the medic I'd have done the same as town although his role does seem really strong. Vivax probably the most scummy claim wise cause he was reluctant to give up his visit. But I was going to move my vote off him based on play so I still give him town points. JJD Seemed to try to get hopeless on that whole fakeclaim thing thats the 3rd occurance of him really pushing a scum read on something slip like to me it pings scummy because of my background as I highlighted in a previous post but it may be different on the forums. Kush Vivax Hopeless JJD Neutral Pile: Amiko - Has seemed very town in his posts but austin's case against him makes me question how much of it is off the cuff and not preplanned... its easy to look town if you know whats going on. I don't fully believe this read and would love to have more interaction with Amiko but if all blue claims are real it has to be someone else so he goes to neutral as I'm stronger on thrawn/Austin atm being town. DJO - He hasn't really done much of note for me I was making this list and in my head thought "idk where I stand on DJO tbh" so its null for me and hes not a blue role claim so he stands at neutral. I will try to reread his filter but probably cant get around to it for 6-7 hours as I'm at work and want to catch up on other games as this one is night phase atm. Most likely Scum: Kita - I think he has pushed on two lynches rayn first then vivax if vivax is town this makes him look even scummier in my eyes. He pushed on both their lynches later in the day after I had already been pushing on both from the start of the day he also calls me null when if we're in the same mindset wouldn't he think me more town he doesn't even mention our similar pushes in his reads. Now for me I like that he pushed on those people but he has been around at both EoD when I've been hesitant and reconsidered both my reads and he didn't with rayn or vivax just left his vote where it is. So to me it seems like someone scummy hoping on an established wagon to push someone into a lynch and not reconsidering at EoD. | ||
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Tehpoofter
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@thrawn at the time I didn't want to vote a blue and he was the scummiest of the non-blue claims in my eyes. Plus what I stated in my case just above this... its honestly not very strong but more of a PoE thing. Other people looked townier and someone has to be scum type of deal. | ||
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Tehpoofter
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@Thrawn/kush and those around can you guys make a list of who you think is scum/town so we can have it documented for possible conversions? | ||
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kitaman27
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On April 04 2014 08:04 Tehpoofter wrote: @kush he claimed to have visited someone. More importantly, he is Rose. | ||
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austinmcc
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That seems kinda rough for scum, they can't really stop people claiming and confirming themselves if none of those are scum or not actually in the game. I dunno, it's not lynchable, but Toad dying if Dudeman Tyler died, and nobody dying with Toad, might mean that the guy is a fakeclaim or a scum role. Difficult to go for alignments based purely on names/flavor, because we're clearly not located within a single episode, and so we don't know if some Doctor-y characters have been made scum for this. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Amiko
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Amiko
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Amiko
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On April 04 2014 05:09 Hopeless1der wrote: "You are Mickey Smith, ex-boyfriend of Rose Tyler. You hate it when she leaves on her escapades with the Doctor and have even taken to following her for what little time you see her. You are a watcher, but you target whoever Rose Tyler targets. (You never see Rose visit someone and if Rose isn't in game, it is a random selection of who you watch). You win with the Town." Rose targetted "someone". Vivax also targetted "someone". This is all i know @hopeless1der From your role description, you are not notified that Rose visited someone. So, how could you know that Rose targeted someone? | ||
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Amiko
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It sounds to me like if Rose targets someone, hopeless1der only should get informed about the people who visited the target, but doesn't see Rose. This makes sense because this limitation (not seeing Rose) means he doesn't know if there is a Rose in the game or if he was given a random player. However, he claims that Rose targeted someone. | ||
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Hopeless1der
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On April 04 2014 12:47 Amiko wrote: To be clearer about the above post- It sounds to me like if Rose targets someone, hopeless1der only should get informed about the people who visited the target, but doesn't see Rose. This makes sense because this limitation (not seeing Rose) means he doesn't know if there is a Rose in the game or if he was given a random player. However, he claims that Rose targeted someone. JJD claimed Rose...JJD confirmed that his target matched Vivax's target (austinmcc). What is the discrepancy here Amiko? I'm headed to bed, I'll check back in the morning. | ||
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