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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 01 2014 20:48 GMT
#1161
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 01 2014 20:57 GMT
#1163
I need you to write a book report summarizing The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. This is of vital importance.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 01 2014 21:05 GMT
#1171
lolol
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 01 2014 21:08 GMT
#1177
I'd probably shoot/convert you or austin as mafia to be honest.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 01 2014 21:09 GMT
#1180
That's why I was hoping to stockpile on reads from austin before the deadline XD
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 01 2014 21:10 GMT
#1183
On April 02 2014 06:06 austinmcc wrote:
I know the scum narrative is very loose, but do you think the way I interpret his posts is sensible kita? Is there a particular point where I'm not seeing what you're seeing and you think I'm coming out wrong because of that?


About to drive home at the moment. I'll get back to you after dinner.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 01 2014 23:52 GMT
#1240
slam, why not post that yesterday when I asked and hosts said you could? Why wait until you're a nuke target.

I'm kinda inclined to suggest firing the nuke into the mafia suspects to be honest, rather than going after likely third party. Not sure I'd trust his claim since he seemed so upset about it and survivor isn't really rage inducing, but until we flip our first mafia he isn't really a priority.

Reading now for top to suspects.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 01 2014 23:57 GMT
#1244
Hmm, you're allowed to post roles I believe.

On August 04 2013 08:59 Alakaslam wrote:
he swears like his role is no fun.

I think that means he is survivor.


This was the only reference to a survivor that I could find from slam in past games. I suppose it supports the idea that he views the role to be boring to play.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 02 2014 00:05 GMT
#1246
On April 02 2014 08:54 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 08:52 kitaman27 wrote:
slam, why not post that yesterday when I asked and hosts said you could? Why wait until you're a nuke target.

I'm kinda inclined to suggest firing the nuke into the mafia suspects to be honest, rather than going after likely third party. Not sure I'd trust his claim since he seemed so upset about it and survivor isn't really rage inducing, but until we flip our first mafia he isn't really a priority.

Reading now for top to suspects.

I didn't notice as I was pissed, not reading. I am unaware that you did that.


On April 01 2014 05:28 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 04:57 kitaman27 wrote:
Slam, suppose town was willing to make a deal with you.

A deal works both ways.

We give you lynch immunity so that you survive until endgame. Mafia will not shoot you over town. You will therefore be guaranteed to win.

You give us your role name and role and if we feel that you can use it to find mafia, you help us out. Mods have confirmed you can share your role. You would be allowed to post slammy stuff to your hearts content and nobody would have a problem. I'd even be willing to join in. Think of how much fun that would be!

Sound good?

I offered this to town a long time ago and they shat on it.

Too late

I understand there are exceptions


Well you responded directly to the request saying too late. Are you saying you forgot?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 02 2014 00:09 GMT
#1247
meh actually don't care to be honest. Even if I don't think you may have omitted something from that post, your play doesn't seem scum motivated. A recruiter type role is the only real possibility to be worried about, but the cyberman flavor seems more likely for the recruiting mechanic unless there are two. Still think we should go after mafia regardless of what third party type alignment you might be, even if jarjar holds the nuke and thinks I'm mafia XD
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 02 2014 00:09 GMT
#1248
On April 02 2014 09:09 kitaman27 wrote:
meh actually don't care to be honest. Even if I do think you may have omitted something from that post, your play doesn't seem scum motivated. A recruiter type role is the only real possibility to be worried about, but the cyberman flavor seems more likely for the recruiting mechanic unless there are two. Still think we should go after mafia regardless of what third party type alignment you might be, even if jarjar holds the nuke and thinks I'm mafia XD


EBWOP
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 02 2014 00:17 GMT
#1249
On April 02 2014 06:06 austinmcc wrote:
I know the scum narrative is very loose, but do you think the way I interpret his posts is sensible kita? Is there a particular point where I'm not seeing what you're seeing and you think I'm coming out wrong because of that?


Nevermind on that one. I've actually removed djo from my ever shrinking possible mafia lynch. Originally, I was thinking that he took the position he did knowing more information than he should about rayn and my alignments, but I don't think that applies as well as I thought. There was something else that I found townie from him that I won't go into.

Well I'm down to hopeless and vivax, though not a strong feeling like I did on rayn (although apparently that wasn't a good thing). I may look into some of the people I've been ignoring like poofter. Usually I only spend time on people if something jumps out at me, but right now a ton of things aren't jumping out.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 02 2014 00:23 GMT
#1250
Anyone around?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 02 2014 00:33 GMT
#1253
On April 02 2014 09:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah. i haven't read any filters or anything yet though


What do you think about austin's absence at the lynch? Him moving off his 1-person vote and onto slam/gumshoe at like 30 min before the lynch likely would have started the swing.

Do you buy his claim that he wasn't around at that time?

I'm actually kinda inclined to believe it based on the length of the phone call he gave us out of all things, but what are your thoughts?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 02 2014 00:43 GMT
#1255
Ya, I guess even if he is telling the truth about not being around doesn't necessarily make him mafia/town. I'm on the same page without really seeing anything wrong from him (aside from his anti-town behavior by informing me about urf mode and wasting the next 4 hours of mine). His play seems pretty similar to the shadow game where he likes to interact 1 on 1 with players to get thoughts, which matches his town behavior.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 02 2014 00:47 GMT
#1257
You still think kush is sketchy?

When I went to look at him originally, I found these quotes from persona and golden sun where he was town, which seems to match the same mentality this game.

On September 16 2013 20:56 kushm4sta wrote:
OP might not be survivor but he is probably 3p of some type. All the scum are going to be dying to kill him because he is an easy lynch with obvious reasons for wanting to lynch him.


On September 17 2013 23:05 kushm4sta wrote:
If i was cop I would defend a survivor in TWO SECONDS because it's a dumb lynch if he's a survivor.


On August 21 2013 03:48 kushm4sta wrote:
yawn, boring discussion about survivors. scum love this shit.


It lines up with his position of not lynching slam and suggesting that we look at those that do since mafia are likely to go after third party targets. His post length seems to be what I would expect from a town kush as well.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 02 2014 00:56 GMT
#1260
On April 02 2014 09:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
Why did you ask me? It didn't look like you were scumreading austin and I'm pretty sure it doesn't look like I'm scumreading austin.


You were the guy who showed up when I asked

Are you still thinking that the mafia were on the rayn lynch if kush is town? Hope is someone I want to reread, but I actually think amiko might be one of my strongest town read at the moment, so I really don't think that list is very strong.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 02 2014 11:38 GMT
#1364
So I'm going to be at a career fair all day so I won't be able to post during the next 12 hours.

All I ask is that I'm given a chance to defend myself first if you do indeed decide to want to use the nuke on myself over slam.

I'll post my lynch preference when I return.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 03 2014 00:15 GMT
#1538
Just got home. Exhausted, but I'll try to do my best to post shortly.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 03 2014 01:00 GMT
#1545
On April 01 2014 00:08 JarJarDrinks wrote:
You purposefully emulated ur meta from a previous game in order to see if someone would call you scummy for it and not check your previous game? That was your plan to trap scum? And Rayn just happened to do exactly what you were expecting to a tee?


As I mentioned, I was looking to see if anyone would go back and check my previous game showing that they were looking at my filter and history trying to draw conclusions. I'm not sure if you are aware of this or not, but Foolishness published a 30 minute video following his thought process when writing a monster post about my behavior as town. This wasn't just any random game that I picked out. rayn, austin, and toad were familiar with this, which is why I chose to use it. You'll notice that when toad mentioned his discussion with Foolishness and then came out as calling me town, I immediately thought he was town as well.

I know you suggest that was trying to reproduce my town meta to trick people into thinking that I was town. I can't really say anything to refute that so that's your call.

On April 02 2014 13:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
According to kita, his "trap" was that he copied his meta from his previous game and then when rayn decided not do the research to check it out, he decided that rayn was likely mafia. That was pretty much his main point on rayn.

Here's a post from Kita AFTER rayn supposedly fell into his "trap":
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On March 31 2014 08:33 kitaman27 wrote:
hopeless vs slam is more appealing to me than rayn vs slam at the moment.

Even if I disagree with some of thing things he is saying, he is taking more stances and following through with them. hope on the other hand is kinda just there responding when he is called upon.

Bamn. There's proof right there that Kita retconned his rayn case. There's absolutely no way to explain how he makes that post based on this rayn case that he made later.


First off, at the point where I mentioned that I preferred hopeless vs slam, I thought exactly that. hopeless seemed worse to me than rayn at the moment. It wasn't to say that I thought rayn was town at that point, but I didn't have a strong opinion. I probably hadn't even read his filter by then. What you have to keep in mind is that there was a 14 hour gap between the time I made that comment and the time that I decided that rayn was mafia. While rayn did refuse to do the research by the time of the first post, he hadn't really expressed a strong mafia read on me other than that the web was strange to him. Even in his list post, I wasn't a scum suspect to him. At that point, if he didn't think I was mafia and wanted to use his time elsewhere, so be it.

This is what triggered my read on rayn going from nullish to scum:

On March 31 2014 16:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so kita and tehpoofer are most likely scum. maybe gumshoe.


On March 31 2014 19:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
meh maybe poofer is town after all. He has probably the most posts and to a relatively new player it's highly unlike he is scum.


At this point, by process of elimination rayn has expressed that I am his number one scum read.

On March 31 2014 04:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And yes i am trying to find mafia lla the time.


At absolutely no point is he providing reasoning for his suspicion, trying to push my lynch, or really following up on his suspicions at all for that matter. Instead he is talking about the third party claim, the guy without any posts, and casually calls me mafia without any push, which isn't what I would expect from him as town. If rayn thinks I'm town and doesn't want to put the time in to do the research to show I'm scum, then fine. If rayn thinks I'm mafia however, and still does nothing about it that's a huge red flag for me and I went after him for it. You don't know how absolutely infuriating it is to spend time putting together a case on a player, wasting time reading tons of past games (and let me tell you, rayn's 30 pages filters are beyond miserable to read, but I did several), and then find out that he martyred himself, flipped town, and then tried to bring you down with him.

Anyways, I've wasted enough time defending myself as it is so I really want a chance to start looking at today's lynch. No guarantees that I'll have something tonight, but definitely tomorrow with enough time prior to the lynch.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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