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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 01 2014 02:01 GMT
#1041
I don't know about vivax yet. I wouldn't mind seeing him under some pressure, I think that's the best shot we have of figuring out his alignment. So anyone that is around when vivax is around should do that.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 01 2014 02:03 GMT
#1042
if you have some way to influence the vote secretly and don't tell us now, and we find out later, you are fucked. so best come clean now
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 01 2014 02:07 GMT
#1043
On April 01 2014 11:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
yep, what slam just said. You and austin are both pretty strong town reads for me. Toad seems town, i guess? He made a pont about him becoming less worried about me after i started responding to him normally, and now i'd like to make the pont that I like that he likes that i started responding to him normally. The only voter not on the rayn wagon was gumshoe. Simply due to the number of town reads I have, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he was mafia. Austin made a good pont earlier n that his inactivity shouldn't be alignment indicative becasue he posts more as scum and town, but it's his willingness to troll about flavor and be absolutely useless when he does post that makes him scummy.

I still thnk that kita was probably right, that there wern't that many mafia members on D1. Or even if it was some sort of X role (i cant remember the role name, it';s where you are mafia but dont know alignments and your team has to find you) then they would still be hard to find becaue they'd be posting without information about alignments, so they would look like town.

So I think the remaining (likely few, or few "catchable" mafia) would be on the rayn wagon.

kushm4sta, hopeless1der, kitaman27, Amiko, raynpelikoneet (5)

hosts can you clarify that the final votecount which showed 6 on rayn is correct

I didnt pay full attention to the argument slam had about the votecounts but didn't hosts confirm that the count was accurate? that would be there are some hidden voting mechanics going on. People need to claim this ASAP if this is the case imo.

So who on that list is likely to be mafia? I doubt it's kita. I was slightly townreading him for his gimmick at the start of the game, and he made a very casual post near the deadline about "here comes the swtich" which I don't excpect to come form a scum player who is about to get their mislynch. I don't thionk hopeless is scum, i'd like to sheep rayn and austin's reads on him. Amiko I previously thought was town, I will read his filter again and tell you what I think in a bit. But I remember townreading him for all the research he did at the start of the game.

and that leads me to.....

KUSH get the fuck in here

They did this 3 times

Gumshoe is #6. Or I am creating spite I dunno.

Frankly wouldn't blame anyone I have been a ragey ass. But...
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 01 2014 02:08 GMT
#1044
So here is my yak protection post.

I am awful as mafia. If I suddenly turn mafia and know alignments, my activitey will drop and I will not be able to talk about reads. So the scum team would be very stupid to yak me.

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 01 2014 02:08 GMT
#1045
On April 01 2014 11:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
if you have some way to influence the vote secretly and don't tell us now, and we find out later, you are fucked. so best come clean now

Who do you suspect has this power?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 01 2014 02:10 GMT
#1046
tbh, toad, just because he's the only person to claim weird voting mechanics. i'm not sure how to reconcile that with my read on him though. beause I think that if someone put an extra vote on the rayn train and didn't tell us then that is a highly mafia motivated action.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 01 2014 02:10 GMT
#1047
Lol

I am going to make my yak me post

Scum I am pissed at town, dropping WIFOM bombs, disobeying the rules, making very little sense, and an easy bus to grab dat towncred with both hands

I should be a very attractive yak target
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 01 2014 02:11 GMT
#1048
slam you are a bastard
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 01 2014 02:15 GMT
#1049
On April 01 2014 11:10 thrawn2112 wrote:
tbh, toad, just because he's the only person to claim weird voting mechanics. i'm not sure how to reconcile that with my read on him though. beause I think that if someone put an extra vote on the rayn train and didn't tell us then that is a highly mafia motivated action.

Ah that would explain

Besides I think foolishness would drop dat hammer if there was host spite somewhere

Must have been frustrating when I was all like [image loading]
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 01 2014 02:15 GMT
#1050
On April 01 2014 11:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
slam you are a bastard

Why?

And how do you know?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 01 2014 02:19 GMT
#1051
it's not important, and his thread doesn't really need another argument about your motivations lol
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 01 2014 02:24 GMT
#1052
@whoever but especially thrawn2112,
I'll be around for about an hour if you want to talk, I think my filter is short and I think a fair number of my d1 posts refer to rayn so there may be something you can ask me to get better reads.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 01 2014 02:29 GMT
#1053
did rayn's flip have any effect on your reads or how you view D1 in general?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
April 01 2014 02:31 GMT
#1054
The votecount is correct.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 01 2014 02:35 GMT
#1055
so the extra vote happened after this post

maybe scum got scared when the gumshoe votes started piling on?

again, if this is your doing then you need to calim responsibility now and not later.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 01 2014 02:39 GMT
#1056
While waiting I'm going to go through Vivax filter since he was discussed a bit above and see if it gives me reads.

Vivax
I already commented on Vivax's post asking hope1ess if he was joking (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21088181).

Vivax dislikes that Toad goes 100% on hope1ess on his first post.
I'm not sure if Vivax dislikes the certainty or that it was reached so quickly, but it makes me feel he should have dropped a comment on rayn's certainty regarding kitaman27 later in the day.

On April 01 2014 04:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 22:08 kushm4sta wrote:
I think toads case on hopeless is unconvincing but it probably comes from town, unless toad stepped it up hard core since his last scum game.

Gotta read Raines newest stuff still.

I think there is evidence that kita has too much information.



What do you think was he referring to kita?


Did this get answered? If not I would like to see kush's response because I think kitaman27 deserves a deeper look.

I don't feel Vivax takes a stand on rayn vs. kita and ends up with a safety vote on Alakaslam. I don't find the Slam vote terrible (as I said, I wouldn't mind voting Slam) but I don't like that he escaped weighing down one way or the other.
If I were to infer from his posts, I felt he was more likely to put his vote on rayn than kita.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 01 2014 02:40 GMT
#1057
amiko my question a few posts above was directed at you
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
April 01 2014 02:48 GMT
#1058
On April 01 2014 11:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
if you have some way to influence the vote secretly and don't tell us now, and we find out later, you are fucked. so best come clean now


I just looked at the vote count thing thats interesting. I am putting on my noob pants for this one are there roles that have vote changing or adding mechanics as both alignments? Or is it more indicative of one or the other?

Also thrawn yeah lets put pressure on that Vivax scummy guy. I am not as sure on kita cause he didn't seem to listen to rayn so hes not in my town circle with me you and austin. Also Slam is going to be in the circle too even though hes 3rd party he can work with us for now.

What do you think about JJD? He has a small filter its easy to read so check it out.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 01 2014 02:49 GMT
#1059
On April 01 2014 11:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
did rayn's flip have any effect on your reads or how you view D1 in general?


Yes.
I think I spent most of my attention d1 on rayn, though I did interact with some other players.
My vote ended up on him largely because I felt he didn't or couldn't explain questions I had about his comments.

I don't let other players dictate how I vote so I'm not set on rayn's 1:1 trade with kitaman. However, I am willing to sheep rayn enough that kitaman27 is a focus and leaning scum based on at least some of rayn's comments.
Frankly, I don't know rayn's meta enough to say whether he always tries to portray "100% confidence" or if he is honest when he is unsure about his reads. Either way, I'm willing to pursue it.

Other than that, I need to reread hope1ess next, the interactions I gave most attention to involved rayn/kita/hopeless so I think he is my second person to be attentive to. Had rayn flipped scum I would have felt a little better since hope1ess also voted on rayn.

As to D1 in general, I think we should have decided earlier if we were going to go with a policy lynch but I didn't expect that gumshoe wouldn't post so it didn't seem like a realistic concern.

Giving you a short post because you are in thread, I'll write more in a little bit.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 01 2014 03:04 GMT
#1060
On April 01 2014 11:48 Tehpoofter wrote:

What do you think about JJD? He has a small filter its easy to read so check it out.


I don't like the position he took where he decide to ignore lynching scum and instead take the "safer route." But I don't think makes him mafia, because he did stay in the thread up till the end and he was trying to get his slam lynch though. So he at least cared about his lynch. rayn was set to be lynched, and rayn was town, so what reason would a scum jarjar have to stay in the thread?

-so he gets "possible" scum points for not rying to lynch mafia over a possible 3rd party
-but he gets town points for at least having the guts the stay in the thread till the lynch and make his case
-and "town" points because mafia JJD had no reason to do what he did, since rayn was set to be lynched

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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