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Hope1essrider
Ge seems to have as few posts as I do, but with less content.
After rereading I feel he is scummy based on the following:
- hope1ess seems to criticize rayn's focus on slam as anti-town, but also appears to do the same thing. He asks slam earlier if slam will flip town (encouraging the idea slam will die) and seems to only respond to posts which let him criticize scumhunting. I'm not sure why he votes slam when he does since he seems to see it as a foregone conclusion for quite a while.
- hope1ess sort of weighs in on rayn vs. kita by voting rayn. He also defends one of rayn's arguments regarding kita (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445571-doctor-who-mafia-2?page=37#733) and I think that is a fair answer. This doesn't weigh toward him being scum in my eyes.
The scumfeels come here:
On March 31 2014 23:56 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2014 23:52 kitaman27 wrote:On March 31 2014 23:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
kita, rayn wants to 1v1 you. do you accept? Yep, assuming I don't come to the conclusion that you're not pushing a town vs town. rayn is guaranteeing and promising that I am mafia after a 10 sec response to my post. I am presenting a case why he is likely mafia after objectively attempting to lead him down a path to show he is town, reading through his past games for things like mass claim policy and mentioning my reservations showing that I am not 100%, and reading through other players filters to make sure he is the best lynch before deciding. Who do you guys trust more? In my currently preferred scenario, we lynch rayn. If he flips town, hope a vig can get you or slam and probably end up lynching the other one. If he flips scum, ##Unvote: Alakaslam
##Vote: raynpelikoneet
What feels scummy to me is
(1) The important part of the post isn't there. He votes rayn so if he is town, he should feel the second scenario ("If he flips scum,") is more likely to occur and more important, but that's the part that's missing. This feels off.
(2) He has not articulated any preference between rayn and kita but moves off a vote he considers acceptable, even if rayn is town.
Not super strong but his posts are pretty minimal.
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HEyyyyyy kush man! you were wrong about rayn! how does that make you feel?
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On April 01 2014 11:48 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 11:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
if you have some way to influence the vote secretly and don't tell us now, and we find out later, you are fucked. so best come clean now I just looked at the vote count thing thats interesting. I am putting on my noob pants for this one are there roles that have vote changing or adding mechanics as both alignments? Or is it more indicative of one or the other? Also thrawn yeah lets put pressure on that Vivax scummy guy. I am not as sure on kita cause he didn't seem to listen to rayn so hes not in my town circle with me you and austin. Also Slam is going to be in the circle too even though hes 3rd party he can work with us for now. What do you think about JJD? He has a small filter its easy to read so check it out.
I am gonna shower but I can read JJD after.
I don't see vote changing as necessarily town or mafia. I think in the ## game I read earlier I think there were vote increasing and decreasing mechanics on each side. At the least, in Foundation Mafia both mafia and town could add an extra vote. So, I do not think it is strongly alignment indicative.
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i think we can deduce if the vote changing is mafia or townie based on what effect the votes have on the game
fact: rayn is town
fact: whoever caused the extra vote did not claim it
(future fact: the voter will probably not claim his vote)
seems like a mafia power to me.
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United States1302 Posts
Hey, I should be around for a bit if anyone wants to talk.
Right now I'm super suspicious of Austin. He was around @ the end of the day and votes were moving around like crazy. I don't understand how he ends up w/ his vote on tehpoofter. He totally didn't care who got lynched. He basically no-voted.
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On April 01 2014 12:12 thrawn2112 wrote:
i think we can deduce if the vote changing is mafia or townie based on what effect the votes have on the game
fact: rayn is town
fact: whoever caused the extra vote did not claim it
(future fact: the voter will probably not claim his vote)
seems like a mafia power to me.
^^ This unless someone comes in with some super sick logic real fast disputing otherwise we can assume mafia has an extra vote so town needs to be extra united.
Do vote powers like that usually happen every night? or is it like vigi that is typically every other night? or maybe one use type deals?
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@ JJD did you read his case against me? and his feelings about lynching slam?
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^^his in the above post = austin
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On April 01 2014 12:12 thrawn2112 wrote:
i think we can deduce if the vote changing is mafia or townie based on what effect the votes have on the game
fact: rayn is town
fact: whoever caused the extra vote did not claim it
(future fact: the voter will probably not claim his vote)
seems like a mafia power to me.
You think scum has an extra vote per day? Seems like a pretty strong ability to have. Like they can basically endgame a day early.
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On April 01 2014 12:51 Tehpoofter wrote:
@ JJD did you read his case against me? and his feelings about lynching slam?
Yes. I don't think the case against you is terrible. You were on my radar earlier but have mostly fell off since I feel like kita scumslipped about the 2 of us being town earlier.
And yeah I talked to him alot about aslam and I think his stance there is pretty awful. I have no idea why anyone would think slam is town @ this point.
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On April 01 2014 12:51 Tehpoofter wrote:Do vote powers like that usually happen every night? or is it like vigi that is typically every other night? or maybe one use type deals? I thought about it being a once per game deal. If that's the case then that would make Slam scum since he seemed to be the only person who was in danger of being lynched and I would think they wouldn't want to waste it.
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On April 01 2014 12:12 thrawn2112 wrote:
i think we can deduce if the vote changing is mafia or townie based on what effect the votes have on the game
fact: rayn is town
fact: whoever caused the extra vote did not claim it
(future fact: the voter will probably not claim his vote)
seems like a mafia power to me.
I agree
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Hey
I got a blue box
Think that did something?
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After all it is an incredible craft
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Please cut down on the spam Alakaslam. Thanks.
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