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Giggletummy
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On March 21 2014 02:08 Koshi wrote: When I roll scum on this account, I will happily message you so you can sit with baited breath for me to flip and be disappoint.Giggletummy. Let is be known I will be disappointed in you when you flip scum. | ||
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I think that's the right spelling? | ||
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On March 21 2014 02:16 Holyflare wrote: (1) Do you think those posts look annoying/spammy/unreadable? Do they appear to be posts that clog the thread?Right so scooby do became irrelevant and annoying to you so then why did you drop everything to do with discerning the alignment of your scum read to talk to your town read about an already flipped town? (2) rayn was pestering me about my saying he looked bad, in the post where I was asked about rayn/coag arguing and said rayn looked bad for it and coag looked fine to me. rayn continued to pester me. I responded and continued to respond. Those posts about coag and rayn are specific answers to someone saying I was scummy and asking me questions. | ||
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Giggletummy
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Actions matter plenty, not just reactions. And your reaction to the vivax stuff is a reaction, weighed. Yes, towards the end of a D1 on which I've been very absent, my reads are not fluid and well-updated and I'm not checking in every 2 pages. If I continue to have like 2-3 reads, never update anything, 1000% lynch me. But if it's still partway through D1 and I've been absent a bunch of the game, maybe my reads not being fluid is a natural thing. Time will tell. I won't argue that I look massively townie, but i will argue that you're mafia. | ||
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On March 21 2014 05:19 Djodref wrote: Can you point to a post or two that push towards townie?Rayn case was pretty damning. Vivax latest posts are making me doubting a little bit but I have good hopes he'll flip mafia. | ||
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On March 21 2014 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you always think in terms of only two options? There's an undiscovered Raynpelikoneet Postulate out there, that for every action, there are two and only two possible courses of action to follow.This game is called what would you do as town: Scenario 1: There is a big argument between two players in thread. You decide it's important regarding players alignments because you weigh in to the argument. What do you do? 1) Give your opinions on the players and tell which are good and bad. Say if someone looks scummy because of it or if it does not you point the thread to a different (right) direction. 2) Do not comment on the argumet at all, call one player out for it not really telling why or using some crap reasoning like "he should do something else". Call noone scum, give no better direction, throw a vote on someone, say "case later kthxye" and peace out. Scenario 2: You have a vote on your top scumread and people are waiting on your case. What do you do? 1) Make a case on your scumread, try to convince people on voting for him. 2) Make a case where you don't really call your scumread scum, continue discussing the scenario 1 matters, call another player out multiple times without calling calling him scum, defend/question a couple of other people on other things. peace out. Scenario 3: You have been out of the thread for a day. It's close to lynch, what do you do? 1) Make a case on your top scumread and try to convince people to vote for them, or weigh between the cases that are present and give resons why you sheep the best case. 2) Make a huge fucking case on someone who is not your top scumread. Then make another huge fucking case on your top scumread. In that case, say that this dude is definitely mafia regardless of this third guy's alignment. Proceed on voting for the third guy who you just said you are not even sure is mafia. If you answered (1) more Giggletummy should be mafia. If you answered (2) more you are mafia. Maybe you actively state that you're not reading, and only partially skimming the argument in question in Scenario 1. Maybe you talk about the argument and what it means to you when specifically asked, but if never asked, you wouldn't care much about it. Maybe in Scenario 2, you have most of a case typed up, get pulled away, and don't get back to it til the next day. Perhaps vote, _______, make a case is a thing that can happen. Maybe people don't vote and promise cases on people they don't think are scum. Maybe sometimes when you're out of the thread for a day and there are 4 scum members, you don't feel the need to continue pushing solely one dude. You can point out why he is, and is still, mafia, but without gunning for his lynch since votes are elsewhere. These things are impossible in raynland. But they're wholely plausible choices for people who aren't in raynland. | ||
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Giggletummy
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On March 21 2014 05:26 Djodref wrote: Pre-flip, if possible, are you happy with Vivax's scum on a silver platter, i.e. poofter i thik?This post feels genuine to me and it's making doubting my decision a little, but I know you could use your own angry and disabused emotions as a lynched scum to produce something like this. | ||
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good to see you around again vivax. thanks for evening out coag | ||
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On March 21 2014 05:36 thrawn2112 wrote: "everyone is mafia" is generally not a post I find townie. did any of the vivax voters start doubting that vivax was mafia when he made his angry posts? i didn't, in fact they made me feel even better about the lynch. I am asking because djo's reaction to them seems implausible The posts before that i can maybe see, I'm actually interested in djo giving thoughts on tehpoofter. For all vivax's moaning, the only real thing in those posts to me was that he thought he found scum and handed scum to us. Checking that scumread seems like a good thing to do if you're worried about a mislynch, as that's what, half or a third of what vivax had done. | ||
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On March 21 2014 05:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Do the posts make sense? They are legible and you can read them and follow the conversation?The pages in question GT seem to be rayn and Holyflare going on Hopeless for misusing meta and at least rayn calling him scum for it. What is confusing to you? | ||
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On March 21 2014 05:56 Giggletummy wrote: I ask because pg 63 is my post that you have a major problem with.Do the posts make sense? They are legible and you can read them and follow the conversation? And I don't believe that anyone who was around at the time made sense of what was actually being posted. Even the people involved. rayn and Flare didn't understand what hopeless was saying/how he was defining things, I could not and I think it was Palmar who couldn't, understand what rayn was saying, etc. etc. etc. Me saying to stop with the scooby doo isn't "this is only relevant to holyflare and i am not interested in it." Me saying to stop with the scooby doo is "good god the last couple pages make no sense, plz cease." | ||
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On March 21 2014 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: possible town cred on lynch. If he was strapped for time or lazy scum, he certainly isn't the D2 lynch when I flip town, given other options.Yes i know that. But i doubt he tries to lynch mafia. He tried to lynch tehpoofer so i do not think anyone should try to lynch tehpoofer any more in this game. Also thrawn's conversations with him were really townie. Hopeless never answered Vivax and Vivax didn't give a fuck. He dropped his read on Giggletummy for reasons i don't even know what they were. | ||
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Look through his filter for poofter. On March 20 2014 19:02 Holyflare wrote: Well this is an outright lie Case: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=43#855 Dp filter where it happens: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?user=DarthPunk&page=6 0 questions before case Poofter is outright lying. On March 20 2014 23:43 Holyflare wrote: Lynch DP or poofter for lying, not VivaxThen you should be lynching dp for lying and poofter for lying On March 20 2014 23:52 Holyflare wrote: regardless of vivax, here's DP and maybe DP/poofterOk rayn regardless of this vivax thing if you found mafia. Dp has thepoofter as 100% scum and makes an entire case on him based on 2 posts and only after the case asks him questions (like suki and toad in culture). When poofter responds dp calls him a liar and thus furthering his view of 100% scum. Why does he unvote 100% scum to sheep you on the guy that made a case on me that followed dp's logic that i am scum? On March 21 2014 06:43 Holyflare wrote: I'm town and poofter is also town because of filter.Was also a long time before deadline. Anyway, Lot of page 2 vivax filter should clear me, thrawn and poofter as town. Not just these points in particular On March 21 2014 08:51 Holyflare wrote: gets mad because now poofter is town, not mafiawhat the fuck are you talking about i said poofter is town? On March 21 2014 13:09 Holyflare wrote: I've decided poofter is scum again. He was lying scum, then he was cleared by vivax's filter, now the exact same bit in vivax's filter maybe indicates poofter is scum. possibly maybe.I think this might have been true and that's why he is actually angry (poofter scum? :OOOOOO) On March 21 2014 13:22 Holyflare wrote: There are like 5 different postings of this. Asked to specific people and now mentioned again.Just gonna requote this so dp doesn't bury it with more nonsense: what if this is true and poofter/hopless is scum? HF is active and posty but his posts overnight are full NOT of specific questions like "who was the mislynch" (hi rayn, it was me), or even djodref's "assume i'm town and Giggle is town then xxxxxx" HF is "Hey what if Vivax was serious that he gave us ez scum?" The answer, of course, is that poofter would be scum. It's not a neat, thoughtful question, it's got a 100% specific answer that's clearly visible. This isn't a real question. It's just false activity that makes it look like Flare is trying to figure something out. But the question goes nowhere, and the basis for the question is "what if this mafia guy was serious?" Unless he can resurrect Vivax and administer some truth serum, we're only gonna learn the answer post-flip or post game. When I say characteristic, I mean there are a lot of other questions that are camouflaged (that word is spelled strangely) to look like real stuff. His read on me bounces around the same way, I'm scum but then assumed town, but then a good shot (and vigs should not be shooting but then should shoot), and then I'm probably scum again. All this while he just makes up alignments for everyone and then plays out hypothetical situations that aren't even real. On March 21 2014 08:38 Holyflare wrote: he doesn't hesitate, he joins giggle straight away without commenting on the case he spent the entire game waiting for and that case agreed with all his points so he should be voting for a townish read, he gives conclusive reasons that djo is scum but is voting for the guy that agreed with his points and made a case that he didnt look over or question? isn't that odd to you? On March 21 2014 08:45 Palmar wrote: Oh I said that, looks like I was smart in the past too! HF: I went back and checked. I tempvoted Giggle on page 54 and properly (mspaint) on 67. rayn voted him on page 63. DP voted giggle on page 89. That does not count as instantly in my book. (All while claiming every blue role in the book) | ||
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On March 21 2014 11:30 Holyflare wrote: No it's not at all that post states that in both options he made giggle mafia and giggle is saying what if it isn't black and white because i am town and doing banana, apple, orange. Are you reading the same post? On March 21 2014 11:34 Holyflare wrote: This is what I was talking about with you, rayn. You present only two options, in both of which I am mafia. (Sometimes).If it's moere 1 giggle is mafia, if it's more 2 you are mafia both options making giggle mafia and he provides counter reasons for your points which is what a towny being discredited would also do so it is not "slandering a player that's town" like dp said Aside from that, in your bit on me about Vivax and "knowing" Vivax's alignment, and how I had Flare scum in the case of either flip, Flare looks scummy re: Vivax because of his reaction. It's not the right reaction. It's not "I don't believe you." It's not "I think Vivax is still town because x and y and z." It's "A townie did this one time, therefore _____" (with no mention of how lying is often scum because they have more to gain, despite the fact that yes, townies lie sometimes). It's also "if vivax is lying and you want to lynch him, why don't you want to lynch DP and poofter?" (indicating that lying is scummy, and we should be lynching liars, but I guess not vivax). That does point more towards scum vivax, because of the push off of vivax that didn't give groovy vibes. But the reaction is wrong regardless of Vivax's alignment. The reaction is "the day is going well, and now shenanigans are afoot close-ish to lynch, and we no longer have control of the lynch." I'm the mislynch, the day is easy for scum, and suddenly things get shaken up. It points more towards mafia Vivax, but honestly if Vivax is town it's still the wrong reaction to someone getting caught lying. | ||
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