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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 12:39 GMT
#369
On March 05 2014 21:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So do you think Palmar is mafia?


Too early to say. His motives do seem to lean on Mafia though (sabotaging your plan, making himself hard to read, not contributing anything etc.).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 12:41 GMT
#373
That's actually true though. I tend to fold under extreme pressure as Mafia.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 12:42 GMT
#375
On March 05 2014 21:41 marvellosity wrote:
well, you're just lucky I like you then.


Implying I'm Mafia?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 12:43 GMT
#377
Since you don't want to pressure when I'm much more resilient to pressure as town.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 12:44 GMT
#378
Although I'm not usually under heavy pressure as town, so there's that.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 12:48 GMT
#380
Dunno. Just saying that the only situation where you would truly be doing me a favor by giving me a "break" is if I'm Mafia. But since I know I'm town, it's pretty much counter-productive to pressure myself, so I guess it would just be stupid.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 12:55 GMT
#382
About LSB...

"2) Having multiple Kp roles all at the top of the list is very dangerous because mafia can share numbers and avoid clash. This is especially true in a mini game."

I don't think this was mentioned yet, but actually rayn's plan solves the problem that was presented as being a problem with rayn's plan here. If we follow a plan to pick the KP roles, there can be no clashes with picking the KP roles, meaning that Mafia have no advantage in picking the KP roles at all. So in the end this point 2 just encourages rayn's plan.

LSB hasn't really done much else besides this anti-rayn stance. He also seems set on undermining the plan rather than trying to genuinely talk about it with rayn. It reminds me of myself in LXIV where I tried to undermine the mass claim plan and marv becoming Mayor - no meaning to be objective, just flatly refusing it in any way possible. Very possibly scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 13:04 GMT
#387
On March 05 2014 22:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's not really how i see it happened.


?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 13:12 GMT
#394
I'm on my phone now, on my way to an event, so it's harder to read filters. I guess I'm not feeling too good about yamato. He's usually pretty obvtown as town and I don't get him as a townread here, really. I'll be keeping a close eye on him.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 13:14 GMT
#396
His soft defense of me or?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 13:18 GMT
#399
Then the sudden "rayn confirmed town"?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 13:24 GMT
#404
Hm. Upon reading Yamato, I'm not sold on him yet. But I'll be watching.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 13:28 GMT
#411
Certainly
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 13:31 GMT
#416
I'd guess using Detective is more important than Vigilante, Artanis.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 13:31 GMT
#418
Although actually no. That doesn't mean scum wouldn't use the KP.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 13:33 GMT
#420
Why not include JOAT actually rayn?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 13:35 GMT
#425
But scum can just take JOAT, kill someone and never be found out?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 13:37 GMT
#432
On March 05 2014 22:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Anyway you shouldn't worry about me Rayn, marv'll read me correctly later anyway and if he doesn't he's scum so it's fine!


Marv's not probably alive very long. If I were scum, I'd just stack KP on him :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 13:43 GMT
#446
On March 05 2014 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
or at least joat and maybe jailer claim.
and if the joat does not claim then we actually do massclaim and kill the scum joat.


I guess mass claiming is the way to go. It's not quite as effective as in LXIV but still generally makes scum's life hard.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 13:47 GMT
#454
I have a feeling gumshoe will be modkilled/vigged. For some reason he always just goes AFK when we're in the same game.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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