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On February 28 2014 08:24 kushm4sta wrote: this game looks like it's going to be a cluster. so much lynchbait, so many newbies And no kush to give town direction. It's a shame. | ||
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On March 01 2014 01:29 IAmRobik wrote: Kush and Vivax, you guys don't wanna play with me anymore?  Kush sadly isn't allowed to. | ||
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On March 04 2014 15:23 boonetown wrote: Okay so, if you're unable to read people you're unfamiliar with, you shouldn't jump to conclusions this early on, imo. What you view as "text book scum" is not true in this case, so you might want to rethink what the parameters of text book scum means to you. I am trying to figure out how this game works, while also learning to read people based on words that have no tone or inflection behind them, I might not be great at this game right away, but if you keep me around a little longer, i'll be able to help town once i get a little more comfortable. So you are assuming slam is town? | ||
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On March 04 2014 17:55 Palmar wrote: I don't know yet. Scum is going to win this game super easily anyway, everyone is so invested in trolling that I don't think it really matters what we do. It would be splendid if you and a few other traditionally useless people tried your best to contribute this game. I literally have exactly one weak read this game. That's it. I think Robik's point is valid and means he's at least reading the thread quite intently. There's also the thing where we need a few people to just write a fuckton more, so people get bored. Well, considering you started the trolling this is a little hypocritical, isn't it? Anyways you are right people like grack/killing should start playing seriously now. Like you do now. On March 04 2014 18:08 Oatsmaster wrote: palmar, do you know if Austin being against policy lynching and trolling is normal? Policy lynching and random lynching are not the same. Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits. On March 04 2014 18:53 Palmar wrote: I don't really see where you're going with this, but I'm sure you have a reason for asking so I'll give you an answer. Also I'd like to clarify that this quality posting thing is basically a list of people who tend to, or I know can, post very transparently on day 1, thus making them easy town reads if they are town. Me/you/ve, possibly grack/austin. This is the list of people I know are able to post coherently enough on day 1 to assume a leadership position and look town. That leaves a fuckton. Now there's a lot of people I haven't played with before here (ggtemplar, boone, killing, robik) and then there's a few resident trolls (dandel, oats, slam). I just can't remember anything about justanothertownie, I'm sure I've played with him but he doesn't stick out. If all the new people post very well (see suki/balla, I was impressed) this won't be a problem. Also slam and oats have actually been useful this game, so that might also solve what I thought might be a problem. So my assumption is that I'm only gonna get very few people who don't troll/lurk on day 1 and post the quality/quantity required for me to make a town read on them early. I think the only game we played together was Hogwarts. We lynched you day1 (so it is not surprising that you don't remember that much) I took over your vigilante role and shot scum. | ||
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Ok, I admit there is a certain entertainment value but that's not what I was talking about. | ||
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On March 04 2014 21:11 Dandel Ion wrote: And I'm saying it can't be that terrible if it has a higher % than normal lynching. Or are you against day1 lynches in general? IS THAT IT? DO YOU HATE FREEDOM? Well, I have trouble believing this statistic. Especially if you take into account how many times scum was lynched day1 recently (without random lynching of course). | ||
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On March 04 2014 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Austin top scumread atm but i need to hear more from him. Would you mind explaining? I get the slam read, just the austin read. | ||
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On March 04 2014 21:17 Dandel Ion wrote: Then you should make a counter-database so you can make up your counter-statistics. I don't care enough. I won't random lynch anyways. Let's talk about more productive things - any reads so far besides boone? | ||
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On March 04 2014 21:20 Dandel Ion wrote: Sentence 1: Not true Sentence 2: Applies to every lynch ever and kind of is the point of this game Sentence 3: If you want I can do some stupider things than that, would be worth it just to prove a point. We can just agree to disagree if you are ok with that. This isn't helping anyone. | ||
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On March 04 2014 21:23 Dandel Ion wrote: If I wanted to do that, don't you think I would have? I don't know. Thread was kinda empty. | ||
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On March 04 2014 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Not necessarily. I might know what he is after but i am not sure. I liked Oats' point on him as i said. I don't know, why are you asking this, was i not clear enough? That's like the only thing that stood out for me besides what i have talking about / asking in thread but it's not enough for me to call austin totally scum for it, especially considering i have a history of totally misreading him in exactly 100% of our games together. Hm, ok. I didn't remember that. Also I think it is a pretty weak reason for a scumread. Especially since what oats said is not true. | ||
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On March 04 2014 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like this post is really good in my opinion because JAT's post is really bad. Why is it good? What does it achieve? | ||
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Well austin mentions boone once in a question to another player because that player talked about her. How is talking about boone the only substantial thing austin says then and why should he have/post a read on her especially? Don't get me wrong I won't claim that austin contributed much but that statement from oats is just wrong. | ||
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On March 04 2014 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Random lynching can't be a good discussion starter if it's terrible play. That's just not possible. It's a good discussion starter because it get's people talking. That is what I wanted to say. You could rightfully argue that there are more productive discussion topics. My main point here was that the act of random lynching in itself is bad. | ||
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Apart from that I would like to hear an answer to the question I asked boone. She might be scummy. I don't have more than that yet. | ||
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On March 04 2014 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you acknowledge that random lynching is bad, then you should also think noone should support it because why would they if it's bad? Therefore it can't be a good discussion starter as you can't possibly draw any conclusions from people's responses because everyone should act the same, cut off bad stuff from the thread. If it's a good discussion starter it can't be bad because in your opinion supporting/not supporting it are both valid opinions (given proper) which contradicts the statement that it's terrible play. This is also to Palmar, because the next post from Dandel where he says "every lynch, even random lynching gives us information so you are wrong etc." makes me think this is what he caught from JAT's post i brought up, because those two statements actually do not go together. I think random lynching is terrible, i don't think it should be discussed, because you can only support it and not support it which means you want to or don't want to lynch VE, and it tells absolutely nothing about your alignment in comparsion (or regardless of) to VE's. But if people keep discussing this shit i try to draw conclusions from what people said, like this one, where i think JAT's post is really bad and i don't know why he made it. The thing is, he dropped a random question to robik and went away. I can see him doing that as town aswell but the fact is to me it looks like he is sort of defending boone rather than trying to find out what rob's reads were about. The way he words his former question is also really weird. Like he said: He basically asks rob to pick a read from the pool boone/ggtemplar/killing. Like it's fucking weird in the first place and idk why would he do so in the first place? There is no follow up like "why did you pick that specific read", just sort of a defense after rob gives his read and then nothing. I don't get if austin even cares about who rob talks about... The whole thing reads like "what the fuck" to me... From me, i am not sure if Oats is right or wrong or if this was what he is after in the first place, i am not sure if Oats is even town, but pressuring austin to talk and to give conclusions is the correct play regardless of anyone's alignment. Because austin doesn't reach to fucking conclusions before i get mad to him and start to tunnel him. That's why i always think he is town, he just posts random questions and shit that looks fancy but it never leads to anything until it's too late for me to think he is town. So i, myself, want to pressure him into giving some concrete shit from the beginning. And what he said about boone/robik is weird as fuck to me for the reasons i stated above. So we have exactly the same opinion on random lynching (I stated the same reason you just said before) I only made the mistake to say that it get's people talking. Where is the problem? Anyways let's abandon this subject. On austin: Ok, this makes more sense but I don't get why you mentioned oats post as your explanation for why austin is scummy then because oats reasoning was entirely different. | ||
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On March 04 2014 22:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: JAT (or anyone) is there something you want me to talk about before i disappear for a while? I would like to hear an opinion on boone and see if you are seeing what I am seeing but I guess we can also discuss this later when she posted a bit more. I will be available for a pretty long time today. | ||
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On March 04 2014 23:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually who the fuck is Joey? Killing I think. | ||
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On March 05 2014 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote: I have no idea what JAT is doing other than being intentionally useless. Like this post. I have no idea what or why JAT defended austin when he has no idea whether austin is town. Weird defense = scummy defense. and his first post after being back feels really contributing for the sake of contributing. Literally nothing about who is town or scum at all even though there has been like 8-9 pages by then. I did not defend austin (I have no idea about him). I attacked rayns reasoning for his scumread on austin because it was bad and very unraynlike. Those are 2 different things. On March 05 2014 01:51 Oatsmaster wrote: so much noob claiming by the DM players. This is true and annoying. | ||
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On March 05 2014 01:56 Oatsmaster wrote: Man its the same thing. Whats your read on Austin JAT? He hasn't done enough for me to read him. | ||
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For a really good read? Noone. | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:02 Oatsmaster wrote: Its like already more than 12 hours into day 1 and you dont have ANY READS AT ALL JAT? If you had read what I posted thus far you would know that this is not true. | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:04 Palmar wrote: Well the upside is that I know those people have made one correct read. Which makes them town how exactly? | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:11 boonetown wrote: Top 2 people I would not kill today Palmar - created the whole random lynch, then drew actual reads from the conversation it started. The only world in which he would be scum is where him and robik are scum together (calling him town and pushing on an easy lynch target, myself) which seems unlikely. Alakaslam - His willingness to share his thought process and adapt based on others thoughts is super fucking towny. He is mixing having fun trying to troll with actively trying to find mafia. This conversation in particular is towny because instead of bandwagoning an idea posted by a probably, likely, maybe, town robik, he makes sure to give the reasons why he agrees. GGtemp - (I am directing this directly to Templar himself) I am having a hard time finding a world in which you are town here. Maybe it's because this is a different medium than we are used to playing mafia together on, but you seem very off, withdrawn, trolly and the way you are voting boggles my mind. I have a much easier time in games when I can read you town and trust you, because in late game you're awesome. The way you are throwing around reads with no explaination, and jumping on the boonetown bandwagon causes me to believe you are not town. You know better than to vote so fast on something so small. + Show Spoiler + On March 04 2014 14:53 Alakaslam wrote: Ok this is a better point. Oh yeah and see vote thread if anyone is here. The town reads on Robik make me pause. Robik has come into this game basically knowing only myself, ggtemp and killing. All 3 of us are relatively new to forum mafia and he seems to quick to jump on each one of us. His reasoning for doing so isn't necessarily wrong and he's likely town as stated before, but I would not put him in my town circle right now. These seem to be the "easy" lynches that he is pushing. One of the more pressing issues in my mind is that I am in a mason group with rayn and austin. not much has been said there but i fear that if there is a mafia in there, the game having this information is much more important if mafia also have this information. im outting our mason group because i think there is a better chance that mafia manipulates me in this mason group if i don't bring it to this thread, and i feel there is a higher chance that this mason group will negatively impact town, so I will probably not be using it as much as I had originally thought I would. That being said, I think Austin is the mafia in the group. He's talked about keeping the group secret for now, while Rayn has openly asked if we should out it. I also feel like so little has actually been said in the group that Austin band-wagoning on me in this thread just further supports my read on him. I would also like to point out, that my opening post (and obviously we all see this differently) was my way of letting you all know that I wasn't a sheep, I wasn't about to just vote someone based on RNG, that I'd like to actually play this game with the people that are in it (including V.E). I feel like I'm going to be the easy lynch at this point because a) no one knows my play style and b) I'm unfamailiar with how to post, length, content and what not to say. If taking a stance on RNG is scummy, then I don't know how to prove I'm town to you. In my opinion a random lynch so early on in a game can't be beneficial for town. I know that you guys like to lynch people, and I'm all for it... but let's lynch the right people. When did you form your read on alakaslam? When you reread or before/when you were talking to him? Also stop playing yourself down it is superscummy and unnecessary. | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:30 Dandel Ion wrote: VE who's the third in your loveboat? That would be me. | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:24 boonetown wrote: I accidentally put the GGtemplar read before the Alakaslam quote, i should take a 101 forum formatting class, FML. I would really appreciate an answer to my question! | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:32 Dandel Ion wrote: Interesting that none of you question boone's foundation QT claim It is weird but do we know for sure if there is only one? Fakeclaiming this as scum would be the most retarded thing ever. | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:35 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol did boone just out her mafia members? How come you are so sure that she is the one fakeclaiming? | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:38 Oatsmaster wrote: IN YOUR FACE JAT wat | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:38 Dandel Ion wrote: Either way, the two people out of the groups that I'd lynch are boone and ggtemplar (maybe rayn too) So I'm gonna go with boone for now I am in agreement with this. | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:42 justanothertownie wrote: That would be hilarious. I would prefer following VEs approach for now though. As in: assuming it is possible that there are 2 qts. Not necessarily lynching templar. | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:47 Dandel Ion wrote: How though? The OP quite clearly states the foundation QT in singular. True. But I think it is more likely to be a mistake/or an intended feature by the host than for the whole mafia team to out themselves. | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:56 VisceraEyes wrote: Dandel it's not that I don't care, we just don't have enough information right now to say it's alignment indicative of anything. Like, I still don't know if it's even true because rayn and austin haven't confirmed/denied it. Somehow all 3 of them went mia. | ||
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On March 05 2014 03:03 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey JAT, do you agree with what VE is saying about his QT talks with GGtemp? I see where he is coming from - GGTemplar posted something really weird in there. I am way less sure if it really makes him mafia though. | ||
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On March 05 2014 03:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Can you clarify as GG has a very high chance of getting lynched. He basically refused to talk to us claiming we were both scum. | ||
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On March 05 2014 03:10 austinmcc wrote: Uncle Isaac's Trampoline Emporium Are you serious here? | ||
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Thing is: If I am not mistaken noone of boone and austin claimed it was the foundation quicktopic. Maybe it is a different one. Does your qt end N1 austin? | ||
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On March 05 2014 03:15 austinmcc wrote: I don't think scum has a PARTICULAR benefit in claiming the QT, EXCEPT that it causes pages upon pages of people spouting nonsense about whether the QT is scum QT, or whether it's real, blah blah blah. It just drops an irrelevant piece of information into the thread that people want to talk about. Anyway, don't see MUCH of a benefit either way. But as a townie who's been in a QT, townies are like "OH YES SECRET QT LET'S MAKE PLANS AND WE'LL TRAP SCUM AND IT WILL BE AWESOME." There's...FUN and EXCITEMENT from secret QT. I don't see benefit either way, and it feels LESS townie than scummy to just reveal it D1 for what I think is poor reasoning. Some of that is colored by the fact that I overly enjoy QTs/blue roles/etc. 0% serious. But no, it's not named "Scum QT" or something. The name is irrelevant. It is not irrelevant. Are you claiming that it is the foundation qt or not? | ||
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On March 05 2014 03:22 austinmcc wrote: What is the name relevant to? If you say "figuring out if you're the scumteam" then you're being silly. If you say "figuring out if one group is lying and isn't in a qt" then you think scum is fake claiming being in a QT, something DIRECTLY COUNTERCLAIMABLE THAT RELIES ON OTHER PEOPLE SUBSTANTIATING THE LIE, and that is silly. Ok, let's change the task: Are you claiming that your qt is the/one of the foundation qt/s mentioned in the op? | ||
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On March 05 2014 03:26 austinmcc wrote: See the second response. If you think boone or I claim to be the foundation QT AND VE claims to be the foundation QT, then someone is SUPER DUPER LYING ABOUT SOMETHING THEY CAN'T SINGLE OR DOUBLE-HANDEDLY LIE ABOUT. This would be a terrible idea. Therefore, it's fantastically unlikely that we are both claiming to be the single foundation QT mentioned in the OP. Why can't you just answer the fucking question? I know what VE claimed and I know that it is TRUE. | ||
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On March 05 2014 03:28 austinmcc wrote: Then you already have your answer. We're not the foundation QT. Ok. So you are not only masoned for this cycle? | ||
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On March 05 2014 03:28 justanothertownie wrote: Ok. So you are not only masoned for this cycle? Actually screw that. If you don't wanna tell then don't. | ||
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On March 05 2014 03:28 boonetown wrote: @NAT - My read on alakaslam has developed over the course of the entire thread. Rereading made me more confident in what I was writing though. I'm not trying to play myself down, I'm just trying to be open and honest about the way I feel the game is going and my own personal part in this game. @Dandel - I wasn't worried I was going to look like a sheep, this is exactly what I'm talking about when I said people are taking what I say out of context. I said that my first post was making it clear that I wasn't going to bandwagon. If everyone started doing it and I just joined in with no explanation and a "haha, lets RNG the shit out of this guy" or if I just decided not to vote for him because screw RNG, then that would have been harped on as well. I am telling you all, I'm going to try my best to find the mafia, get my own reads and vote the way I want to vote, based on the knowledge I feel I will or have acquired. I had also hoped that in saying that I wasn't going to vote for VE based on the RNG, that anyone else who didn't want to do an RNG vote would step up. Unfortunately it back fired, we're talking about it as if it was the worst thing in the world that I could have said as a starting post. I realize that the way I'm playing is scummy to you guys because you don't know the way I play, the way I think or the goal behind the decisions I make. I assure you, my goal is the same as yours, to find the mafia and lynch them. Do not let me be a mislynch because a handful of people have decided to take small things and make them huge. For example, when Robert said No where did I say I 'respected RNGsus', this is someone taking what i said out of context, and other people jumped all over it. If you cannot see that I'm town based on the way I have responded and the way people have jumped all over me, then I fear you will never see me as town. Ok, so I will explain now why I have a problem with the way you handled slam. You were threating him as if you knew he was town while he attacked you. This is not what I would expect from you. Other video mafia players instantly give trolls scumreads somehow (even lynched chezinu day1) and I find it hard to believe that you are able to townread slam if you never played with him especially since he went at you. I know for a fact that is very hard for a scummer to threat townies as if he doesn't know their alignment. This + the way you played yourself down/ tried to not stand out (slam pointed this out) does look really fishy to me. | ||
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On March 05 2014 03:38 austinmcc wrote: If this is to me, because if rayn or boone is mafia, then mafia knows about the QT and any specifics. Could be faked, but because of the frustration at me not answering, he seems to be legitimately in the dark about specifics. Which he wouldn't be if he were mafia with one of them. Therefore, if one of them is mafia (or both), he likely not. Congratulatios. You found out that I am likely not mafia together with the only 2 persons I attacked thus far. | ||
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On March 05 2014 03:57 Dandel Ion wrote: No but for real I'm hardly confirmed town ez game ez life ftfy | ||
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On March 05 2014 04:03 Dandel Ion wrote: well far be it from me to discourage people from playing in unneccesarily-hard-mode You can stay (for now). Too funny to be scum. | ||
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On March 05 2014 04:19 VisceraEyes wrote: You guys need to seriously stop going at each other. If you're both town then this is getting us literally nowhere. If one of you is scum then whichever of you is town is doing yourself a disservice by continuing to shit up the thread going at each other...it makes you look just as bad as the scum you think you've found. Who do you want them to talk about instead? Any suggestions? | ||
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On March 05 2014 04:22 VisceraEyes wrote: GGTEMPLAR What is there to talk about as long as he doesn't return to the thread? I mean we can kill that guy but it would be more of a policy lynch as far as I am concerned. | ||
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On March 05 2014 04:24 Dandel Ion wrote: You really shouldn't have. I have a feeling that mafia is not the game for you. Will you stop it now? 2 possibilities: 1) You are annoying the shit out of a fellow townie and prevent him from playing the game properly. 2) You are giving mafia an excuse to ignore you or just shit the thread up an go emo without doing productive things. | ||
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On March 05 2014 04:26 IAmRobik wrote: I've been playing. I gave my reads. They're out there in the open. Do what you will with them. This is the same bullshit that happened with Rayn last game where he and I went at each others' throats and I was town and he was scum. His reasoning was absolutely as trash as Dandelions. If you don't think I have laid out a case on Dandelion then you don't have to vote for him...but he's either scum or bad or just a troll who shouldn't be allowed to play anyway. You guys are way too lax on this type of behavior. ##vote dandelion That is the point. Dandel is a troll an rayn isn't. | ||
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On March 05 2014 04:28 boonetown wrote: Austin is leaning town more and more, which is unfortunate because I was pretty happy thinking I found a mafia in the QT. GGtemp, if you have ever seen him play, is the most paranoid town player in the history of mafia, ever. He would rather sleep every single day of the game in order to not mislynch someone. He only votes if he's mafia, or if he knows the vote won't go through, as a trolly way to make it look like he made a choice. Either templar isn't even trying, or he's mafia. That's where I'm currently at with his allignment. Is austin leaning town because of qt or thread activity? | ||
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On March 05 2014 04:33 boonetown wrote: Both, but more so what has been recently posted in the QT. Could be a show, but seems very genuine. Has rayn posted in there? What is your opinion on him? | ||
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On March 05 2014 04:35 Dandel Ion wrote: On that matter right now I'm leaning towards policy-lynching ggtemplar I love policy lynches they're the best we should really do them more. I am actually not that opposed to this. That would mean I can talk to VE N1 without having to account for this guy. | ||
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On March 05 2014 05:00 Killing wrote: Why try to get you off a tunnel if you are both town? He's actually trying to push the game in a good direction rather than fighting like a couple of schoolgirls. It is a pro town move by VE but I wouldn't put it past him to do it as mafia. It IS easy to do and if he doesn't engage them someone else will do it anyways. Find better reasons. | ||
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On March 05 2014 05:32 boonetown wrote: I ask asked in the QT by Austin if it 'bothered' me that everyone was calling GGtemplar scum now. My answer was no, and I went on to say that I found it very contradicting that he would question how i felt on a templar BW, when more people were talking about me and my allignment and voting on me earlier, and he didn't once bring that up in the thread or QT. Unless I missed that, but I don't think I did. I sort of hate this game. You think austin is mafia because he asked you a question about your top scumread? | ||
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On March 05 2014 06:04 Grackaroni wrote: Drats suspicion. And I was the confirmed town too - prime sheeping material whenever I figure out who I will kill. You suck VE. This gets old at some point. | ||
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On March 05 2014 06:11 boonetown wrote: I think it's scummy that he's insinuating that I should feel like GGtemp is town based on the amount of people that have stated he might be scum/voted on him, whereas when even more people were coming at me, or voting on me, he didn't mention in the QT or in this thread once. So, why the concern for GGtemp over me. Seems fishy. Ok. Why would he do that as scum? Especially since he asked you in your qt and not in the thread? | ||
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On March 05 2014 06:56 Grackaroni wrote: qts are usually pretty boring anyway when they aren't confirmed. Hufflepuff | ||
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On March 05 2014 10:06 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I thought the way you argued with Dandel earlier and cluttered up the thread with meta crap was scummy at first, but then you kept doing it even after people kept pinging you so I read you as more of a reckless townie than scum right now. That's nice and all but I didn't ask about your opinion on me. Whatever - we can continue this tomorrow. I hope rayn gets to spend some time on the game soon. | ||
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On March 05 2014 10:28 Alakaslam wrote: ¡HIJOLE! LYNCH BT GGT ¡ÁNDALE PUES! I don't get it. Enlighten me oh bamcis one. | ||
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On March 05 2014 10:33 GGTeMpLaR wrote: -asked for other reads -whines about me giving a read on you this is why I'm reading you as a reckless townie Fair point but maybe you can understand that this isn't exactly the most interesting read for me right now. | ||
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On March 05 2014 12:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: In other news this game is boring because what i expected just happened. So i go play the other game for a while. I don't care if you think it is boring. If you are town you are needed here. I often have a very strong townread on you even this early and I get nothing this game. You were convinced by Palmars reasoning for lynching boone? Really? First you don't want to lynch her and then you give in because of Palmars stupid policy? On March 05 2014 17:30 Palmar wrote: If nothing else, I clarified with thrawn that the wording on the OP is actually 100% correct. So amongst other reasons I want to policy lynch her for roleclaiming on day 1. Well I guess this doesn't say anything about Palmar because he just has his policy and goes along with it (like miller policy in hogwarts) but I don't get how you can agree with this. On March 05 2014 19:04 Palmar wrote: Meh. I still think we should lynch boone. The QT makes her look a tiny bit better, but tbh I also have this nagging feeling that she outed the QT as a desperation move. And then there's the point I made earlier on how much she's doing statements instead of conversations. Could you explain to me the scum motivation of outing the qt to the thread? In what way exactly would that be a desperation move? On March 05 2014 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes but i am not as confident on him being mafia because of him backing down on me. Huh? | ||
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On March 05 2014 22:43 Palmar wrote: There is no reason to out the QT as either alignment because if all these people happen to be town, mafia knows where to shoot for a chance of a blue role. I refuse to believe there is a random mechanic in the game, so I'm pretty sure it has to be role related. She did it just to throw information out there. The only thing I take from it is that she wants to reveal she has additional information, but that might be a town thing to do as well. ie: she raised a new discussion point and her status in the thread. It's good for both alignments but a bad play in general. Why does boone perform a bad play for her own sake? It can be explained by her being both scum and town, which is why I said "I have this feeling". ie: I cannot prove it. Exactly. | ||
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On March 05 2014 22:50 Palmar wrote: So we agree on lynching her then? Based on the policy? No. | ||
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On March 05 2014 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Jesus JAT are you reading at all or just keep asking stupid questions? I have very clearly explained why i did vote for boone. In the post where i voted for her, and it has btw nothing to do with Palmar. Shit, that's what happens if you take a break during your reread. So you were convinced by VE instead. A very clear explanation still looks different though. | ||
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On March 05 2014 23:04 Palmar wrote: I think boone is scum. I think austin is scum. If it helps you get a clearer picture: town to scum list: Town-ish reads: Palmar IAmRobik Oatsmaster Leaning town-reads: Dandel Ion Grackaroni Alakaslam Null/no idea/not read. raynpelikoneet justanothertownie VisceraEyes maybe scum: Killing GGTeMpLaR probably scum: boonetown austinmcc I am almost always wrong on at least one scum (and give him a townread) though. Explain to me the oats read please. I know you aren't the only one to have this huge townread on him (I think grack was the other one?) but I seriously don't understand it at all. | ||
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On March 05 2014 23:10 Palmar wrote: Just read his filter, he's active, gives reasons for just about everything he does, seems to be willing to engage in discussion, seems to be reading and following the thread. I could do post by post but I don't think it's necessary. And since when exactly are those things towntells for oats? It seems to me like you only registered that he engaged people and didn't pay any attention to the content of his posts. | ||
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On March 05 2014 23:16 Oatsmaster wrote: fuck man, then dont say shit you dont mean. Please quote where I said she is town. | ||
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On March 05 2014 23:16 Palmar wrote: No I did, and I cba explaining it. If I'm wrong I'm wrong and will deal with it later. Ok, since he won't be lynched anyways. | ||
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On March 05 2014 23:19 Palmar wrote: yo JAT. Not today. You won't get any support for lynching Oats today. How about you focus your efforts into figuring out if there is scum anywhere in the people that are possibly going to get lynched? (templar, boone, austin etc etc). That's the problem. They all look equally bad to me (add killing to that list) so I have a hard time figuring this out. | ||
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On March 05 2014 23:24 Oatsmaster wrote: lynch too easy = someone is town. Seriously, is this hard to understand? Do you have to spell things out before I can comment on it? No, just no oats. I will ignore you for now. @Palmar: Your reads on VE/rayn - are you not able to read them right now or did you not look at them? Because I think that would be really important. I can't blame you for townreading only the trolls (I agree on Dandel and slam at the very least) though. | ||
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On March 05 2014 23:06 Palmar wrote: yeah maybe. tbh though most of the people on the wagon can be town. I don't think it's a scum-driven wagon, even if it might end up being wrong. Hey oats. See, Palmar thinks boone is town! Better attack him! | ||
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On March 05 2014 23:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: btw i like your list a lot Palmar. I'd only swp Grack a bit lower and VE up and i am obviously town. Robik is probably just dumb and not scum. Also Slam & Oats are really much townier than Robik + you. I think I agree with that. So I am also in your neutral category rayn? Why? You said I would be so easy to read. | ||
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On March 05 2014 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not comfortable reading you on D1. After that i am. You are one of the few people i am probably not comfortable lynching on D1 no matter how scummy you look. Damn you. This answer is generally reasonable while still not alignment indicative at all. Although I think I should be a pretty easy townread by now if you read my filter. | ||
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On March 05 2014 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like i get you can fish for "scum answers" but why unhappy? What would you expect a "really townie" answer to be because i just gave you one.  Well a townie answer would be an answer backed up by a game related reasoning. Yours wasn't, it was general and therefore totally null. | ||
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On March 06 2014 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: You are asking a lot of questions which generally do not seem to be leading anywhere, like in that game. This has also happened in your towngames like in PYP LOL and that's why i am not comfortable making a judgement call on your alignment yet. I think I played pretty well in PYP LOL and pretty badly in the pm game but hey... | ||
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On March 06 2014 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think your play was different from your town games on D1, at least radically different. It comes later, on N1 i was quite convinced you were scum, #3 scumread after Derridaslot and Vayne. Okok. Fine. Let's abandon this matter for now. I won't be able to read you this way. | ||
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On March 06 2014 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: btw why are you not voting for anyone JAT? Are you gonna tell me that's scummy now? | ||
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On March 06 2014 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can't fully +1 this statement because you basically tunneled me until i got shot but other than that yes you played pretty well. Fair enough. | ||
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On March 06 2014 00:15 justanothertownie wrote: Are you gonna tell me that's scummy now? And to answer the question: Because I am still undecided on who to lynch. | ||
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On March 06 2014 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Who are you weighing between and why? My situation is the following: I have a few people I won't lynch today period and the rest is equally inactive+scummy. I see no good reason (based on their play) to believe anyone of Killing/GGTemplar/boone is town for example. | ||
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What I tried today was getting a read on the strong players/potential townleads but that's hard this game. | ||
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I don't want to lynch you/VE/slam/dandel/iamrobik and probably rayn by now for various possibly different reasons. | ||
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On March 06 2014 00:35 Oatsmaster wrote: why did I think Rayn asked that question. So you think Rayn is town because he can solve the game? WHY?/ Are you really that slow? I don't want to lynch him because of that. I never said I had a townread on him. | ||
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On March 06 2014 00:32 Palmar wrote: I am Oats. That would be horrible. | ||
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On March 06 2014 00:39 Oatsmaster wrote: ah ok, another case where you say what you dont mean. I can totes solve the game. Im insulted. Sorry if I hurt your feelings but I don't think you 2 are in the same league here. | ||
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On March 06 2014 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: What he just said is highly unlike to be an individual thought and i have only "shat on players" when i called your smiley post dumb and templar's post bad (because they were bad). Let's be honest here - you shit on players all the time. Doesn't make you scum though. On March 06 2014 02:31 boonetown wrote: oats you're an idiot Dunno why I felt the need to quote this. On March 06 2014 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also where the fuck is VE? Let's summon this guy. We are definitely not lynching boone today. Dandel neither. Austin I could be convinced maybe. | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:08 Grackaroni wrote: Yes I am absolutely serious. Ve hasn't shown much interest as town for the last few games. But this is the first game I've played with VE where I've felt that he is both disinterested and pushing a strong agenda. VE is a good lynch. This post. It isn't bad. | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:12 boonetown wrote: I am trying to figure out your alignment. If you want me to see you as town, stop being an asshole and show me youre town. All I have seen in your filter is you trolling or being rude to people for the most part. There are less than a handful of posts from you that I could see you even trying to play the game, but you're still trolling in them. So, how about you give me your town and mafia lists. Please and thank you. While it would be really nice if Dandel followed your request - please direct your attention to other players. You won't get Dandel lynched today. | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:17 Grackaroni wrote: Normally if you don't really care too much about a game as town you aren't anxious to push a lynch on to somebody for having a scum mindset such as GGtemplar's "you guys are all scum" (which somehow translates to, "I think there is scum in this qt because I AM the scum in this qt" I think that is pure bullshit and I think if VE was town and disinterested he would be more willing to just sheep Palmar or some other vet rather than push that lynch. I think his Boonetown observation looked decent but now I'm feeling that he was probably wrong on Boonetown so I guess that's just unfortunate for him. Yeah, grack is now officially on the do not lynch list. I might just test rayn and sheep him on Templar. | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote: I would lynch VE and I wouldnt lynch GGtemp, the burst of activity he had felt like he was trying to make up for his earlier ploys and it didnt really feel like he was making up stuff about his reaction tests. Burst of activity? I think that's quite the exaggeration. | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:49 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm also willing to kill Palmar for not knowing for a fact that I'm town at this point. Players like Grack/Oats are like..meh. But Palmar should know. Why should he know? What have you done this game that you would not be able to do as scum? | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why are you voting for Killing over ggtemplar? Money question. Some not so townie people are going after killing but almost no scummy people wanting to lynch templar right now (oats, VE, killing, austin - noone is going after him). That's the way I see it. | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:58 justanothertownie wrote: Money question. Some not so townie people are going after killing but almost no scummy people wanting to lynch templar right now (oats, VE, killing, austin - noone is going after him). That's the way I see it. Actually three of those people are going after killing. ##Vote: GGTemplar | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:02 VisceraEyes wrote: So wait, you're now calling me one of the scummy people not going after Templar? What IS your read of me JAT? Undecided. The amount of townreads has been rising for me recently and you are not one of them so that's why you are grouped with the remaining not townie people. I won't lynch you today though and maybe you can convince me N1 of your townieness? Oats is also no townread so he is in the pool of scummy people. | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote: Seriously JAT, why is GGTemp scum in your own words? Lynching by choosing whoever the scummy people arent voting for is a horrible way to play. I disagree. Why are you defending him that hard? Why do you think he is town in your own words, oats? | ||
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You said his "burst of activity" makes him town. Wow, such detailed read. | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:12 IAmRobik wrote: Temp is town as fuck Please elaborate. | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:17 Oatsmaster wrote: I also said that his reaction test felt real and it lead to reads on people which is good. Also lately he has ben trying to figure out the game. Your turn JAT, why is ggtemp scum? Those are really general statements. Give me quotes oats. Also I find it very telling that you know start to think his reactions tests felt real. Why didn't you say that much earlier when he wasn't in direct danger of being lynched? That has been out there for ages. | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:21 Grackaroni wrote: where's me sheep at? Sorry, but I think it isn't VE today. We have a pretty interesting split on ggtemplar/killing right now. | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:27 VisceraEyes wrote: GGTemp retract your scumread of me or I shoot you tonight. What are you trying to achieve here? | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:29 IAmRobik wrote: Boone's claim could be fabricated. She's smart enough to do it. Just saying. Not voting her today though. If her claim is true she will die very soon. No need to worry about that much. | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:32 VisceraEyes wrote: I just need this sentiment that VE is a possible lynch to dissipate so I can walk away from the computer comfortably. IS THAT SO WRONG?!!? This is wrong: You being more concerned about being read as scum right now without danger of actually getting lynched over concentrating on the actual targets. | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:35 Oatsmaster wrote: Not without a counterclaim. Jat, why the fuck are you so reticent about giving reasons for ggtemp to be scum? Stop stalling and give reasons. No medic will counterclaim this unless he is retarded. For ggtemplar see rayns case for example. There is enough in the thread against him. Why can't you give me good reasons for him being town? | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Her claim. Who the fuck claims (as mafia) like "HERE ARE MY 1000 READS AND THE THINGS I HAVE and btw i am medic" instead of "I AM MEDIC DONT LYNCH ME PLZ also here might be something wifom"?!?!?!!?!? really??? Good point. | ||
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On March 06 2014 05:03 VisceraEyes wrote: I could lynch austin boone. <3 You know that he is voting for the same guy like you? | ||
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On March 06 2014 05:14 Grackaroni wrote: The grackaroni hath fail sheep to get. But once fail perhaps win ##Unvote: VE ##Vote: Killing Hijole | ||
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Forgive me for I am new to the way of CHUPAZI. Mind giving a short reasoning for killing over templar? | ||
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On March 06 2014 05:20 Grackaroni wrote: I'm basically just sheeping between the two. Austin and Robik pointed out some strange contradictions from killing's reads and I put some faith in Boone's reads of the DM players. Sounds reasonable. I am ok with either of them dead. | ||
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On March 06 2014 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: just read posts and lynch mafia plz. this guys should be called OMGUStemplar. True. JAT/rayn scumteam + like half a dozen other scumreads in his big post. Seems legit. | ||
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On March 06 2014 06:08 Palmar wrote: I no longer care about this game. Everyone is refusing to play so why should I. Lynch me if you want to, I'm gonna vote and afk for the rest of the game. wat | ||
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On March 06 2014 06:08 Palmar wrote: I no longer care about this game. Everyone is refusing to play so why should I. Lynch me if you want to, I'm gonna vote and afk for the rest of the game. I really don't understand your problem?! | ||
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On March 06 2014 06:27 Palmar wrote: This may be unfortunate wording on VE's part and thus a null issue, but it's actually a straight up lie if this is _exactly_ what he meant. Does this mean you keep playing? Because I would really like to hear your opinion on this lynch. | ||
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On March 06 2014 06:46 Killing wrote: WELL I DIDN'T REALLY WANNA JUST SIT THERE AS TOWN AND SAY THE FUCK IS GOING ON but at this point I think it's best for my game as well as overall town. There is an hour till deadline. Where are your new reads? | ||
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On March 06 2014 07:10 Killing wrote: ##Vote VisceraEyes I think GGTemplar is town which really only leaves me with one option. This is not very convincing. Reads. Now. Also, Templar if you would be so kind to give me a short summary of your reads right now (even a list) that would be great. | ||
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On March 06 2014 07:15 Killing wrote: I really have no good reads on anyone except for the DM players whom I think are all town. Considering that, two of my town reads are voting on VE and I have no strong scum read on anyone else. At the moment, he's my best option from my eyes. Does that mean you have a scumread on VE or not? | ||
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On March 06 2014 07:18 IAmRobik wrote: Cause I'm going to snipe vote the shit out of someone. Cause I'm town and I can do that type of shit and get away with it cause IDGAF about looking scummy (well I kinda do, but like, I'm super obv town so yah) Well, do you care about winning? | ||
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On March 06 2014 07:20 IAmRobik wrote: I do. Very much so. Will vote how I feel is right. Want more information before I decide between VE/Joey. Carry on. I misread your post. Giving reasoning instead of just snipe voting would still be dope though. This game revolves around teamplay/convincing people and not around being right. | ||
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On March 06 2014 07:29 austinmcc wrote: JAT, previously you seemed scummy on Killing but you didn't want to vote him because scary meanies were voting him. Do you still hold to that? Are his voters scary meanies? Also since that time, he has returned to the thread. Does his return to the thread make you feel warm and happy like it does for Boone? If yes, what parts. If no, do they make you feel he is scummier? His return is weak sauce but his voters are still not trustworthy although you look somewhat better now maybe. I am absolutely not locked on a templar lynch at the moment. | ||
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On March 06 2014 07:34 IAmRobik wrote: JAT, my homie, are you going to be changing your vote or are you sold on Temp being scum? I would much prefer a lynch out of Joey (killing) or VE. This game sucks. Maybe. I don't know... | ||
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On March 06 2014 07:37 Grackaroni wrote: Blazinghand made up a read on me as town to avoid getting lynched because people were bitching about him being useless. Blazinghand is Blazinghand. | ||
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On March 06 2014 07:55 Palmar wrote: Hammer Killing pls. I'd rather deal with VE later in the game than that dude. I'm amazed boone isn't getting lynched. She should be an auto-lynch. She claimed medic. Did you notice that? | ||
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On March 07 2014 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: My work here is done. No. | ||
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On March 07 2014 08:07 Palmar wrote: I'm terrible at this game. Gonna re-read tomorrow. You might want to explain your actions. Doesn't need a reread to do that. I am disappointed - 2 claimed vigs and noone shot? | ||
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On March 07 2014 08:09 Palmar wrote: Someone else should really take the lead and it should not be rayn I think. There's just something about this town between lurking/trolling/people I don't know I can't figure out. So yeah, I'll comment on as many ideas as I can today, please start presenting cases and short reasons and I'll try my best to read those and give input. Have you ever been so terribly defensive as town? | ||
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I believe the other three DM players (boone, Robik, GG) to all be town. They have put in more effort than anyone else this game thus far. They all seem reasonable. This Hari guy seems to read a different game than this. | ||
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On March 07 2014 08:18 Palmar wrote: tbh they have put in effort, no matter their alignments they are more than welcome playing here and already a lot more fun to play with than a ton of TL lurkers. Oh, I absolutely agree. But this statement is wrong on so many levels. | ||
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On March 07 2014 08:21 Palmar wrote: meh it has everyone in 3rd person. Probably should disregard it, although I don't mind people going after me, tbh if a few people tried to lynch me that would probably be okay, but only if they actively push while I'm around. Oh, you will be scrutinized. Don't worry. | ||
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On March 07 2014 08:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes please, but you are not able to just copy paste, you need to paraphrase. Huh? Templar copy pasted our qt in the thread day1. I was about to do so too - now I am hesitating. | ||
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On March 07 2014 08:36 Alakaslam wrote: Folks HARI SELDON IS THE MAN WHO CREATED THE FOUNDATION lol Who here knows what foundation is? This is great flavor and it is flinging over everyone's head Maybe, but this flavor won't help us solve this game. I guess those reads come from a person outside this game so they should not be ignored but we have to approach them critically. I don't care about flavor. | ||
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On March 07 2014 08:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes please, but you are not able to just copy paste, you need to paraphrase. Actually why do you think so? I can't find it in the rules. | ||
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Day 1 foundation qt: + Show Spoiler + justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2014 05:13 PM ET (US) Before the flip you had VE, Dandel and Rayn as your top scum reads. How about now? justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2014 03:42 PM ET (US) Oh god this austin case... Much WIFOM. justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2014 03:09 PM ET (US) Yep. But in this case it is still really really bold to do. Mafia seldom save their buddies in a manner this obvious because it fucks them in the long run. I mean killing will die soon (one way or the other) and then dandel will not be in good shape. GGTeMpLaR 03-06-2014 03:05 PM ET (US) yea you make a good point actually.. if Dandel is mafia he can leave his vote on me and not get suspicion for hammering VE. The only way it really makes a lot of sense is if Killing is mafia with Dandel and then he accomplishes 2 things - 1. saving his partner and 2. lynching a strong town player justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2014 03:01 PM ET (US) I will wait for dandel/palmar to explain what they did before I form my final opinion on what happened but right now Palmar looks more suspicious to me. justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2014 03:00 PM ET (US) I switched because you weren't getting lynched and I prefered lynching Killing over lynching VE. justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2014 02:58 PM ET (US) The problem with your logic is that I did not know your OR VEs alignment (you looked pretty scummy and still do kinda) and to be honest - what was there to shed light on? I said in the thread what happened. What is there more to do for me about that? I don't know. Would be a pretty bold move of Dandel. I doubt he and Palmar are both scum (too risky) and should Palmar be mafia it is quite possible that Dandel ruined his plan there. Let's assume Killing is town - me/robik would look really bad now and Palmar would not because when Palmar voted VE Killing was gonna get lynched if I am not mistaken. At the very least it would have been really easy for dandel to just let his vote stay on you instead of doing this move. GGTeMpLaR 03-06-2014 02:53 PM ET (US) did you think palmar looked worse than dandel / why? GGTeMpLaR 03-06-2014 02:51 PM ET (US) you sort of did the same thing though why did you swap your vote off me onto Killing when Palmar went on him? GGTeMpLaR 03-06-2014 02:49 PM ET (US) well you did sort of not say anythign when VE went on me over the QT crap, and having knowledge of it yourself it seemed like if you are town you would want to shed light on the situation whereas if youre mafia it's beneficial to stay quiet and let two town fight regarding Killing, he could be town or mafia at this point but hopefully the vigi is smart enough to shoot him tonight. his alignment is pretty important regarding how the votes should be interpreted I guess Palmar could do what he did as mafia, but at first glance it appears like he was just an indecisive townie who couldn't make up his mind at the end whereas Dandel seemed pretty deadset on voting me, then flopped at the end without reasoning because Palmar told him to justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2014 01:48 PM ET (US) And you really think dandel looks worse than palmar regarding the voteswitch? justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2014 01:08 PM ET (US) It should be fairly obvious. The person with the longest filter in the game is rarely scum. What do you think about Killing now after the flip? GGTeMpLaR 03-06-2014 12:15 PM ET (US) idk what you are justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2014 06:39 AM ET (US) You want to talk to me? How come? You don't think I am scum anymore? The problem is we don't know Killings alignment so we can't really conclude too much about this lynch. I hope someone vigs him. And yeah Palmar, austin and slam have some explaining to do. GGTeMpLaR 03-05-2014 09:18 PM ET (US) i think we should see other people GGTeMpLaR 03-05-2014 06:40 PM ET (US) also rayn/slam mia was fantastic GGTeMpLaR 03-05-2014 06:31 PM ET (US) almost felt like if austin is mafia and both of them are town, him posting that at the last second is him trying to "look more townie" regardless of who gets hammered between the two, especially since he still kept his vote on Killing idk is that alignment indicative? GGTeMpLaR 03-05-2014 06:28 PM ET (US) also WTF was that from austin GGTeMpLaR 03-05-2014 06:28 PM ET (US) I still kinda like palmer but what do you make of him swapping his vote, then swapping back again? GGTeMpLaR 03-05-2014 06:27 PM ET (US) so like him flipping green makes Dandel look rally bad for just following palmer at the last second there and hammering him over Killing regardless of whether Killing is town or maf because VE is a much more experienced forum player if Killing is town, and if Killing is maf he just saved his buddy GGTeMpLaR 03-05-2014 06:18 PM ET (US) yea... are we allowed to talk in here in the night? justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-05-2014 06:14 PM ET (US) Well isn't that just great. GGTeMpLaR 03-05-2014 01:03 AM ET (US) well ive given my shit VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 03:48 PM ET (US) Templar you die if you don't convince me you're town either here or in the thread. Just putting that in here since it's already out there. justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 12:50 PM ET (US) Deal. VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 12:49 PM ET (US) I WOULD talk, except that GG is in here. He's probably scum sooooooooooooo this is tainted. How about this: let's just talk in the thread? We'll use this at night, as intended. GGTeMpLaR 03-04-2014 12:23 PM ET (US) ya me too anyways ill post some shit later don't stay up for me baby justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 12:19 PM ET (US) Weird. I thought there was only one foundation mason and now boone is claiming she is masoned with rayn and austin. justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 11:57 AM ET (US) what a useless question GGTeMpLaR 03-04-2014 11:37 AM ET (US) are u guys town justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 02:15 AM ET (US) VE, we gonna talk? I don't really know how we should work with this since we are only masoned for a day. justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 02:14 AM ET (US) wat VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted 03-03-2014 07:25 PM ET (US) The fuck? Fine then. GGTeMpLaR 03-03-2014 06:37 PM ET (US) I know you're both mafia don't talk to me I don't trust either one of you | ||
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On March 07 2014 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: He basically suggests the foundation mason QT is mafia which cannot possibly be true based on OP (and VE flipping town). Apart from that - what point is there in giving mafia an extra qt? | ||
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On March 07 2014 08:58 Killing wrote: No, I'm just saying it's gonna be ridiculously hard to prove that I'm town but I plan on doing so. Fine. Stop saying so and start doing it. Your alignment is pretty important here. | ||
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On March 07 2014 09:02 Alakaslam wrote: What' up now? Are we lynching robik or Templar? What are you suggesting? | ||
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On March 07 2014 09:10 Dandel Ion wrote: In a series of world-shattering revelations, Dan del Ion reveals that he would indeed lynch Robik. Everyone is shocked. | ||
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On March 07 2014 11:53 IAmRobik wrote: Cause there are a few people calling me out (one who I am trying my hardest to avoid talking about cause I'll get modkilled if I go off on him)...there are many people calling Temp out, who has provided way more content than a lot of people. I think that Joey is _BY FAR_ the best lynch as it will reveal a lot if he flips maf. If he flips town, I think it would clear Palmar because he would have no reason to keep flip flopping at the end to draw attention to himself. Those are my thoughts. I disagree. If Killing flips town Palmars actions near deadline still look very fishy. He is no way near being cleared by that. On March 07 2014 19:10 Palmar wrote: What we really need this game is some kind of a break, either a good vigi shot, a check, or a good lynch today. This is very very true. On March 07 2014 19:22 Oatsmaster wrote: I say we lynch Boone today, I dont see why she didnt get shot and instead scum shot austin, a potential mislynch. Attention - speculation incoming: I think it makes the more respected players like rayn and palmar look worse. Although you could argue that austin was shot to dodge a medic. If boone really is the medic then she didn't look like she would doc austin so it is a save and reasonable shot because austin is really dangerous. On March 07 2014 19:22 Oatsmaster wrote: I say we lynch Boone today, I dont see why she didnt get shot and instead scum shot austin, a potential mislynch. Random lynch so good... | ||
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On March 07 2014 19:36 Palmar wrote: I just realized we actually ended up killing VE who was the target of the RNG lynch ^^ | ||
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On March 07 2014 21:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: JAT do you agree with the statement that in the end VE did not think ggtemplar is mafia? I didn't reread what he said but didn't he have a more townie read on him after templar came back in the thread? Let me look it up. I hope you don't ask because of the qt because as you see there is nothing in there that suggests so and you would be able to check it yourself anyways. | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:53 VisceraEyes wrote: Because when I reread Templar before I slept I felt better about him. I see you've got a case against him now, let me go have a look-see. This is what I remembered. | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Voting Killing. As misguided as Temp is, that last post reads as pretty townie, so Killing it is. Rob's post on his contradiction regarding Boone is the strongest evidence in the thread imo, and everyone should have a look. | ||
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On March 07 2014 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah that's right. Fucking VE, why does he have to be so wishy-washy on everything. I hav no idea what he actually thought because after that he wants to shoot templar and the QT does not suggest he has a townread on him. Also he never commented on my case. ugh.. anyways i am still going to write the case tonight. Well he said he wanted to shoot templar to get him to townread him. Weird thing to do but still implies that he thinks templar is town. Don't let that stop you and your case though. Any thoughts on Palmar? Do you buy his frustration/cluelessness and his lack of confidence? | ||
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On March 07 2014 21:52 Palmar wrote: I'm just still looking for that one nugget, one point that makes you town. I can relate to that. On March 07 2014 21:54 Dandel Ion wrote: Before templar did anything. Once he did something he just dropped him because he knew the other newbies would see through it easily. I'm easy because he can excuse lack of actual reason for me with the mod warning and never talk about me again (like he did what a surprise) rayn is easy because I know it's super easy to call him scum (i kinda do it too and nothing happened because of it so i can first hand confirm how easy it is) After that he sheeps someone on Killing (who I don't think I have to explain why he's an easy target) and just never lets go. And that's it. Good post dandel (I know rayn pointed out some of it earlier). It might be a good idea for me to reevaluate robik. | ||
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On March 07 2014 23:39 IAmRobik wrote: I MADE MY CASE ON YOU. YOU CALLED IT SHIT. YOUR CASE ON ME IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING BONKERS NONSENSICAL AND I CANNOT SEE IT COMING FROM AN INTELLIGENT HUMAN BEING UNLESS YOU'RE SCUM TRYING TO PICK AT THE SMALLEST DETAILS. YOU SAID THAT I WAS PUSHING FOR ANOTHER "MISLYNCH IN KILLING". THE ONLY THING I KNOW IS THAT YOU SWITCHED YOUR VOTE AT THE FUCKING LAST SECOND AND ACTUALLY GOT SOMEONE MISLYNCHED. HOW DOES THAT MAKE ME MORE SCUM THAN YOU WHO VOTED FOR SOMEONE WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THEM ALL FUCKING DAY, AS OPPOSED TO ME VOTING FOR JOEY WHO I POINTED OUT AS BEING SCUMMY FOR MUCH OF DAY 1. GO BACK TO TYPING GIBBERISH. IT'S MORE USEFUL AND MAKES MORE SENSE THAN WHEN YOU TYPE IN ENGLISH. Maybe dandel isn't an intelligent human being but he looks damn fine in that knightly armor. | ||
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On March 08 2014 00:48 Palmar wrote: And you probably should take a step off from your high horse. If you're losing arguments against people you label "trolls", maybe you're terrible at arguing, and tailoring your arguments to your audience. If town is a bit dumb, you make the arguments that fit that town, you wouldn't explain shit in the same way to a class of playschool kids as you would to a group of university students. It's YOUR job to get your point through. Nice lecture oh master of a thousand policies. What is the point you are trying to get through today? | ||
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On March 08 2014 00:53 IAmRobik wrote: While typing googoogaga over and over again for an unnamed few people in this thread would help them understand what i'm saying, I'd rather just have the intelligent people understand me. Well then you know where the problem lies. No need to rage if you don't want to do what's necessary. | ||
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On March 08 2014 00:51 IAmRobik wrote: FOS you for voting VE, which you admitted today that your terrible reasoning was in fact wrong from the get-go FOS anyone that jumped on your early RL of VE. FOS Dandelion for fabricating a case against me FOS Joey cause he's not playing his town game and he was the other wagon yesterday, so lynching him would be our best play...even our ONLY play. Also, if there's a vigi in this game, they're bad for not shooting Joey This is exactly the point dandel and rayn made. You are basing everything on the VE lynch being scummy/shitty while yesterday you were saying you would like the lynch to be between VE/Killing. | ||
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On March 08 2014 01:04 IAmRobik wrote: Page 1 of Austin Filter, Austin didn't like Palmar. Also questioned Boone's motives for outing the QT. Scum points for Palmar Scum points for Boone. HAVING SAID THAT: Palmar and Boone are not Mafia together based off of Palmar's insistence on the fact that Boone should have been lynched for her claim. (In before he'd say that if they were mafia together too) Well, do you think Palmar is an idiot? Because if he is not then he knew that his policy would not go through. | ||
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On March 08 2014 01:07 IAmRobik wrote: Cept I didn't choose the side of the confirmed town.....I said I'd like to lynch between VE and Killing because those were the two viable options. Voting on VE was the worse option because Boone was on VE. I'd rather hedge my bets in that spot. Also, I asked Austin to build a case against VE. I did this not to determine VE's alignment, but to determine Austin's. I would have cleared the shit out of him today because of the effort he put into making that VE case (the case was really weak), but alas, he's dead today, so it ended up not being worth it. You are either really really biased or intentionally one dimensional. We don't know if Killing is scum so we don't know if your choice was in fact the better one. | ||
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On March 08 2014 01:09 IAmRobik wrote: I get fucking frustrated. He calls me out. Other people hop on that shit. I feel the need to explain myself. During the process of explaining myself I get heated cause he's fucking wrong or scum. I know there is a sentiment that you don't have to explain yourself to scum, but I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S SCUM OR NOT...nor do I know that the people who followed up on his "suspicions" are scum or not...so I get mad and rage and try to yell at how dumb he is for even thinking that it could be true. Ok, do you think I am scum? Because I am pretty damn sure dandel is town. You should not rule that out. | ||
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On March 08 2014 01:31 IAmRobik wrote: ok cool THE GAUNTLET HAS BEEN THROWN. TODAY IS THE DAY WHERE YOU LYNCH BETWEEN ME AND DANDELION. I HONESTLY DON'T CARE HOW THE VOTING GOES. I'D RATHER HE DIE THAN ME CAUSE I KNOW I'M TOWN, BUT IF I DIE AND DON'T HAVE TO READ ANOTHER ONE OF HIS FUCKING POSTS I'LL BE JUST AS THRILLED. MAKE YOUR DECISION. I tried to avoid this situation all of yesterday, but it has become apparent to me that this is impossible. So let's do it. If dandelion is town, he's effectively ruined the game. ##unvote ##vote dandelion You don't get to decide that friend. | ||
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On March 08 2014 04:49 IAmRobik wrote: Rayn I have a theory that people who use emoticons at the beginning of the game are more likely to be scum. I was wishy washy about it in GSL, but I'm more certain of it now. The reason being is that they need to feign some sort of smile, laughter, joviality. He is willing to clear Dandelion for the interaction with me and says that Dandelion has been more towny and provided more content when this is definitely a fallacy...at least the latter part should be a fallacy in anyone's eyes that's actually paying attention. Also, it seems to me that he's willing to clear Dandelion off the meta that people have been clearning Dandelion for, however my game should read the same as how it read in GSL, where he knows I was town, yet he's unwilling to give me any credit for it and I think that's pretty scummy (the fact that he won't even consider giving me town points for it) Palmar He voted on a confirmed town late after swapping off of someone that I believe to be mafia. He blatantly admitted that his rationale for voting VE was incorrect today. It seems like he's trying too hard to be like "oh hey, i was wrong and this is why i was wrong." It just seemed like a lackluster justification and did not read genuine to me. Austin (confirmed town) had suspicions of Palmar and Austin is dead. Reading pages 1 and 2 of the austin filter, I can see what Austin was saying with regards to Palmar. Palmar called out Austin for questioning my reads and then backing off of me, saying that I didn't really answer Austin's questions. I think that I _DID_ answer Austin's questions, so it doesn't make sense to me why Palmar kept pressuring Austin the way he did. Potentially trying to push a mislynch? Maybe. Which reminds me of another thing about Rayn. Rayn asked me to address some question. I felt that I had answered it and he kept repeating that I hadn't. I think that he's halfheartedly reading the thread and is just missing things and this is scummy behavior. This guy is either the most stubborn and confrontational scumplayer I have seen to date or town. Dude, you know that you will get in an even worse fight with rayn for this read on him? | ||
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On March 08 2014 02:36 IAmRobik wrote:Oh Joey. Way to fabricate a case on me using meta that is an absolute lie. I always call people fucking idiots when I'm town. I'm pretty sure I almost made csangels cry once for being wrong. Also, the voting thing...I did snipe you. JAT and me pushed your vote over until Dandelion and Palmar pushed it back. Nice try though. The amount of people not able to read the voting thread is too damn high. Let me break it down for you guys: When Palmar voted joey: VE (4) joey (4) with VE getting lynched - I vote joey (would be hammer) - robik votes joey joey (6) VE(4) - Palmar votes VE joey (5) VE (5) with joey getting lynched - dandel votes VE -> Lynch. | ||
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On March 08 2014 05:15 IAmRobik wrote: I'm sorry. I didn't realize I'm not allowed to call out people who I think are actually scummy and have to only focus on people who can't put together 2 congruent words. Like.. I think he's scummy. THat's why I think he's scummy. I'm not gonna sit here and make up reasons why I think someone is scummy. I don't need to fabricate anything cause I'm town, so I tell it how I see it. Didn't want to criticize you this time. Read carefully. | ||
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On March 08 2014 05:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote: How come you never brought this up? OH SHIT | ||
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On March 08 2014 05:29 IAmRobik wrote: OH SHIT lol | ||
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On March 08 2014 04:10 boonetown wrote: i'm still not sure Palmar is town, but he's being much more helpful and useful today. I really have to disagree here. Palmar gave some general advice and lectured robik. What has he done besides that? He has been useless today. | ||
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On March 08 2014 11:40 GGTeMpLaR wrote: how the hell do people read slam Well, I will fully admit that I can't. At least not by his posts. I caught him once for a terrible vote when he was scum but that's about it. On March 08 2014 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote: ohhhhh I read GGtemp as Grack. Disregard points. I still think Grack is scum though but now its cause he pushed VE for being disinterested and then pushing a lynch on someone which is contradicatory. You cant be both man wtf. What push are you talking about? | ||
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On March 08 2014 09:30 boonetown wrote: Now, that's different. I think in order I would lynch Killing, Dandel, Grack, JAT, OATS and then if the game wasnt over I'd look at Palmar again. Dandel vs Rob is really weird for me, because at first i thought they were just idiots going at each other, now I think Dandel is purposely trying to upset rob so that people will vote him. I also dont like the point that was made earlier about his switch vote from Killing to VE. Wow, those reads are pretty terrible and you didn't even give any reasoning for them. What's up with that? In what world am I scum together with Killing? I am town, pretty sure dandel is town (yes, he probably did purposefully upset robik but that makes him a troll and an asshole maybe but not scum) - your new reads suck. | ||
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On March 08 2014 23:07 Oatsmaster wrote: The one where VE called out GGTemp for the first post in the QT being all "I know both of you are scum dont talk to me". Grack said that VE was disinterested(somewhat townie) and pushing an agenda(scummy) and pushed him based on the above reason. But you cant do both man. That was at the beginning of the game and like the easiest push in the history of mafia. | ||
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On March 08 2014 23:19 Oatsmaster wrote: I really dont know what you are referring to JAT. Do you think Grack is scum? That is very possible but I don't follow your reasoning for it. | ||
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On March 08 2014 23:48 Oatsmaster wrote: He called VE scum for bad reasoning and never rethought his push the whole way. That was his only specific evidence for pushing VE. And its bad. In hindsight it was because VE flipped town. When it happened I didn't think his push was bad. If Grack is scum then that's because he didn't do shit apart from that and nothing so far on day2 as far as I am concerned. | ||
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On March 07 2014 08:07 Palmar wrote: I'm terrible at this game. Gonna re-read tomorrow. On March 07 2014 08:09 Palmar wrote: Someone else should really take the lead and it should not be rayn I think. There's just something about this town between lurking/trolling/people I don't know I can't figure out. So yeah, I'll comment on as many ideas as I can today, please start presenting cases and short reasons and I'll try my best to read those and give input. On March 07 2014 08:15 Palmar wrote: Anyway, as I'll offer input on as much as I can tomorrow. I am still waiting for this | ||
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On March 08 2014 23:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Grack has done more than most of the players in this game. For example? | ||
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On March 07 2014 09:53 Grackaroni wrote: I'm here but I don't really feel like posting right now. On March 07 2014 09:53 Grackaroni wrote:  This is all that Grack has done day2. Stellar contribution eh rayn? | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: JAT let me ask you this; Who would you say has put us more close to lynching mafia on D2 than Grack? Like, who has contributed more towards lynching mafia than Grack has on D2? Everyone that posted some kind of opinion on anything. I don't even want to argue with you about if day2 has been good so far but that you are defending grack for "nobody else has been really good" is just ridiculous. | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:09 Grackaroni wrote: Has anyone questioned Palmar on his thought process from the end of the day? Yes, but he just said he was confused... | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:08 Grackaroni wrote: eh I'll do what I can. Bad week plus a lack of sleep from midterms and I haven't felt like playing mafia. Definitely was not going to bother arguing with Oatmaster. That's ok I can relate to that. | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats do you think Grack is more likely to lead the town than for example Palmar is? Also do you think Palmar has lead the town more than Grack has this game? May I answer this too? | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not defending Grack, i am trying to get a better read on you and Oats because your thought process clearly does not line up with mine and i want to know where this sudden "Grack is mafia" is coming from. Because i don't see it, Oats' reasoning for Grack being scum was bullshit in the first place and when he was called out for it he went "oh yeah you are right but Grack still scum for this other reason i didn't bring up in the first place" which is also bullshit. What I said is that it is very possible that he is scum and I think so because everything he did was a push on a townie day1. So you are sure that Grack is town? | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because the new reason you came up with does not make him mafia. Pushing a lynch on a townie does not make anyone mafia, and when Grackaroni makes cases as scum they are not one liners like his "case" on VE. Do you disagree with this? I am not sure but i think he is more likely to be town than mafia. I don't know what kind of cases Grack makes as mafi because I never played with mafia grack if I am not mistaken. Why are you attacking me for entertaining the possibility of this if you yourself aren't sure about him? | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't see him pushing any agenda which he usually does as mafia. He seems just disinterested for whatever reason. Pushing a VE lynch isn't pushing an agenda? | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have my vote on the person i want to lynch in case you have not noticed. And you really think scumrobik would put himself in the spotlight like that? He could never have thought that he would win if the lynch is between him and dandel. On top of that he attacked you for some very weak reasons (yeah, the act in itself is scummy but who does that when he knows that you will tear it to shreds later on?). This is suicidal scumplay. | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tell me what i am supposed to do? Make a counter-case to a case that's on my top scumread and argue with myself that my #2 scumread is more likely to be mafia than my #1 scumread? really Oats? So you are supposed to just do nothing and pray that your lynch is on scum? | ||
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Why do you need a case to discuss the alignment of someone? Since you seem to think your lynch is the one and only correct one today it should not be a problem to do discuss something else besides that. | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats is probably mafia. He knows me better than this. Sorry, but you are in anti-town mode right now if you are town. | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:42 Oatsmaster wrote: The case you are talking about above is Dandel's case right? Yes. | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:44 Alakaslam wrote: Which makes it WIFOM which makes it a smart move. Not if he could just avoid the whole thing altogether. Good that you are here slam - you think we should lynch robik today? Why? | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:48 Alakaslam wrote: Yes probably, because of RAYNPELIKONEET's CASE!!! You all seem to forget he caught robik in a slip up that he still hasn't answered shortly before HIJOLE CHINGA LE SEMANA RAAAAA No, I know he did. But it is also in dandels case. Do you think this "slip" alone is enough to lynch him? | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: You said it yourself at some point. If the case is so bad why could robik just debunk it? Why start a flamewar? I know I said that and I still think the case itself is really good. Sorry, that I am trying to gather more information and am willing to consider different explanations than "he is mafia, gg". | ||
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On March 09 2014 01:11 Dandel Ion wrote: This is just getting better, now it's my fault he hasn't read austin's filter. How old are you dude? Enough dandel. Robik if you rage at this again I will lynch you. Just ignore the mocking and answer actual points if they are brought up. | ||
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Any new insights? What lynch will you be pushing today? | ||
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- you shat on the VE lynch although it isn't clear that Killing wouldn't have also been a mislynch although you yourself said on day1 that you would want the lynch to be between VE/Killing - you seem to decide someone is scum before making the actual arguments for this to be the case - you called it scummy for dandel to switch to VE and you would also have called it scummy if he stayed on templar. - you call for a lynch on Killing yet your reasoning is basically that it gives us information and nothing else - you don't seem to be interested in finding out more about the alignment of your targets - you are still voting for someone you admitted could be town - you are raging instead of discussing actual points | ||
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I would probably lynch Killing (promised to prove he is town and didn't do so) or Palmar (dude is just skating by right now). I am torn on robik. | ||
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On March 09 2014 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: jesus christ i need a break... JAT please post when you are back. You seem to be level-headed, let's figure this shit out. I will look in here pretty often but I have stuff to do right now. The problem with figuring this shit out is that everyone is more or less scummy this game. I usually work by POE so this is hard. | ||
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On March 09 2014 02:40 Palmar wrote: Do you think rayn is town JAT? I really want your answer on that one. I really don't know. He was afk at deadline yesterday wasting his vote (he said so before though) and like I just said he isn't questioning enough people. | ||
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On March 09 2014 03:05 Palmar wrote: I'm going to be away until pretty close to the lynch. If I am still as undecided as I am now I'll probably just sheep JAT tbh. I think we should not kill Robik, I absolutely hate how he's playing but I'm not sure it makes him mafia. Templar is a decent choice, killing too. Wow, this is annoying. | ||
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On March 09 2014 03:20 boonetown wrote: for the record, Rayn did actually try to find out why Austin was killed in the night by asking me to help him decipher what he was trying to say, Austins posts aren't that easy to read. If you 2 have trouble with that you could just post it in the thread, you know. | ||
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On March 09 2014 03:31 boonetown wrote: Im so happy you're back. Okay so, your list looks pretty good but I would move killing to the front, templar can take his place and lynch in that order. Pretty sure Robik and Rayn are town. Wait, what? How come you are ok with his list? He thinks oats and I are town. | ||
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On March 09 2014 03:40 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Alakaslam 03-07-2014 09:27 PM ET (US) Btw What is up with robikus, he goes HIJOLE CHINGA TODOS MADRES ÁNDALE PUES PINCHI VATO and then he is like "In other news, Alakaslam is town because he misread Boone earlier day one. The Dow jones industrial average fell sharply today after a week of heavy trading. This business commentary is brought to you by EF100. When EF100 talks, people listen." What is this lol Slam, why are you enjoying this game so much? What's different? | ||
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On March 09 2014 03:54 boonetown wrote: Yeah I am flip flopping a lot on you two. D1 i thought you were both town, start of D2 i thought you could be mafia, now after reading the last 8 pages i feel like you have both contributed separately. I think between killing, dandel, grack and probably templar, we have the mafia team. @dandel - can you explain your vote changes from yesterday please? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445065-foundation-mafia-voting-thread?user=Dandel Ion You still haven't justified those start of D2 reads btw. | ||
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Especially weird since he called oats town when talking to Palmar. And he didn't try to figure Palmar out when they were both here. | ||
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On March 09 2014 05:21 Killing wrote: Reading past few pages sec Fascinating. | ||
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On March 09 2014 05:35 Killing wrote: ##Vote Robik Do you think he is more likely scum than grack? | ||
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On March 09 2014 05:32 Killing wrote: Thanks man. Glad I entertained you. Anyways, I'm still town I believe that Robik and Grack are still both better lynches than me. I've given my cases, I don't know what I can do to convince you guys that I'm town at this point. Sorry, but that is just not enough. If you keep playing like you do we will lynch you later anyways. If you are town it is better to mislynch you now and get it over with. Fortunately it doesn't seem like that. | ||
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If you are town give us reads on every player in the game before you die. If you do this early enough and what you say looks townie you might even save yourself. If you are scum just hang gracefully | ||
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On March 09 2014 05:58 IAmRobik wrote: Oh, one more thing. The fact that no one (or at least no one that I noticed) has brought up anything with regards to new foundations QT is super weird. I think it's VERY VERY anti-town to not mention people who are in a QT, which we know there should be one based off of the mod post describing the game. It has even been posted here... templar/slam/boone. | ||
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On March 09 2014 05:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: fuck it i am just gonna go play voice mafia, i think this is a good lynch. Great. | ||
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On March 10 2014 07:23 Dandel Ion wrote: Alakaslam didn't vote Killing, so I don't think that's who the "he's your lynch" refers to. So since another person is "the lynch", that implies a greencheck on slam. Yeah, you are right. | ||
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On March 10 2014 08:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote: In 10 pages of Dandel's filter he inetracts with Grack like twice on very minor things, and comments on him another one or two times (basically nothing). I could see them both being scum with Killing unless Rayn wants to defend them again I won't make pre flip association cases and I would definitely lynch Grack before dandel. That's for sure. | ||
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On March 10 2014 08:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Dandel conveniently left his vote on Robik the entire day and Grack jumped on the caboose of the Killing train. Slam voting Robik there as scum with Killing would take some CAHONES No, it wouldn't. Joining a wagon this late would not net him any towncred. If slam was scum he would be happy to create WIFOM this way. But the message implies a green check on him. | ||
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On March 10 2014 08:39 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I'm only hesitant as to why Boone, who claimed medic, is still alive and Oats died. Boone called Grack/Dandel scum yesterday (with myself as a possible fourth) and has been defending Rayn a lot. If she really nailed it there mafia would have certainly killed her in the night (no reason not to hit two birds with one stone) Oats was leaning more scummy on Rayn by the end of the day. this is just from skimming their filters/reads what stood out to me as being different. JAT go back to the filters for me and analyze why oats died over boone I have no time for this today. I am already way behind on a huge lab report that is due tomorrow. | ||
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On March 10 2014 08:39 boonetown wrote: This is what I prepared last night in the off chance that i was alive. I think there is a mafia between Palmar and Dandel. I hate how they changed their vote literally in the last minute of the lynch from KILLING/TEMPLAR to VE, ensuring his death. If there is one between the two, I'm certain it's Dandel. Now, I have flip flopped a LOT on Oats and JAT, and so, other than Grack whom i think is mafia, the other possible mafia is JAT imo. I reread joey's filter and he tries really hard not to talk to, or about either of them. JAT is mentioned more than Grack but still very seldom. Templar and Robert are town in my eyes, You're my biggest question mark but I have thought you were town for this long, I dont want to get paranoid and change that read. Alakaslam is another WTF for me but if I had to make an opinion of him on the spot, it would be town. So to sum it up, I think that Dandel, Grack and JAT are most likely scum, with Palmar trailing at the end. What the hell is going on with you. First I was town then I was scum yesterday I was town again. Can you please tell me why I would hammer Killing Day1 if I was scum with him? I feel a strong urge to lynch you right now. | ||
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On March 10 2014 08:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Anyone who thinks i would kill Oats as scum is retarded. Same. | ||
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On March 10 2014 08:39 boonetown wrote: This is what I prepared last night in the off chance that i was alive. I think there is a mafia between Palmar and Dandel. I hate how they changed their vote literally in the last minute of the lynch from KILLING/TEMPLAR to VE, ensuring his death. If there is one between the two, I'm certain it's Dandel. Now, I have flip flopped a LOT on Oats and JAT, and so, other than Grack whom i think is mafia, the other possible mafia is JAT imo. I reread joey's filter and he tries really hard not to talk to, or about either of them. JAT is mentioned more than Grack but still very seldom. Templar and Robert are town in my eyes, You're my biggest question mark but I have thought you were town for this long, I dont want to get paranoid and change that read. Alakaslam is another WTF for me but if I had to make an opinion of him on the spot, it would be town. So to sum it up, I think that Dandel, Grack and JAT are most likely scum, with Palmar trailing at the end. Any reason for why rayn isn't even mentioned in this post? | ||
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On March 10 2014 09:00 Palmar wrote: ready your tinfoil hat JAT. What if Austin got shot so we wouldn't start randomly lynching into the QT claimed on day 1 as if it was the scumQT and have it sorta work as 2/3 members are scum anyway. *tinfoil hat on* Would align with the fact that we didn't really hear much about qt activity since then. Maybe they should post that stuff. | ||
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Nice. Now answer why I can possibly mafia together with Killing if I hammer him Day1. Go! | ||
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On March 10 2014 09:04 justanothertownie wrote: Nice. Now answer why I can possibly be mafia together with Killing if I hammer him Day1. Go! | ||
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On March 10 2014 09:14 GGTeMpLaR wrote: what is "hairy"? VE. | ||
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On March 10 2014 09:13 Palmar wrote: btw, to further narrow down hairy (again, thank me later mafia) boone can probably be cut out based on her stance on JAT (as more likely scum than me) today. So that leaves robik, jat, templar, rayn I don't know if we are achieving anything with this. It's not me though. | ||
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On March 10 2014 09:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote: can someone translate for me also who is sheldon That's exactly the question. | ||
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On March 10 2014 09:33 boonetown wrote: On Day 1 we didnt lynch Killing, so you didnt hammer him. But if Palmar and dandel wouldn't have switched I would have. Basically dandel has to be my scumbuddy in your theory. And even then voting Killing would be totally unnecessary and really risky for me. To be honest I am really surprised how anyone can read me not town at this point even without all that. You should give the day1 Killing voters way more credit than the day2 voters btw. | ||
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On March 10 2014 09:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote: can someone translate for me also who is sheldon If you still don't get it look at the host posts after the deadlines. There a messages from Hari Sheldon whoever that may be. | ||
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On March 10 2014 15:31 IAmRobik wrote: That's what I thought originally, but I think the night kill is revealed before it's written because in the first one it says that he knows VE is town from the reveal VE wasn't the nightkill though. | ||
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On March 10 2014 21:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: And this robik guy has fucking balls to come tell me i don't read. Go take a shit because you are full of it. *this is not an insult, it's been proven in the last game* Then don't do what he did and ragequit. You know perfectly well that I read your case day1 - I voted that guy. I will also take your new case into account when I find the time. If you aren't content with the way this game is going (understandable) then make those people contribute and above all lead by example/don't ragequit like a little bitch. | ||
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On March 10 2014 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well now you know why i am frustrated. I made a big fucking case based on that post on D1, nobody (besides Dandel) gave a fuck. templar didn't even answer the case but OMGUSed me instead. nobody gave a fuck about that either. What the hell man? On March 06 2014 03:21 justanothertownie wrote: I might just test rayn and sheep him on Templar. On March 06 2014 04:38 justanothertownie wrote: No medic will counterclaim this unless he is retarded. For ggtemplar see rayns case for example. There is enough in the thread against him. Why can't you give me good reasons for him being town? | ||
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On March 10 2014 22:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like when people think a case is good they go "yeah that's a good case and i agree with it so i'll vote for this case". You were like "oh a case. I wonder what i should do." And that's why i thought you might be mafia on N1.. Well, I am certainly not sheeping you if I think what you say makes no sense. Whatever. | ||
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On March 11 2014 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: I also doubt Grack would either, at least for Oats' reads. Oats is a major mislynch target for mafia when he is town and even if he isn't, he is quite incapable of convincing anyone to lynch his reads. My guess would be mafia thought he was a bluesnipe (definitely not the Sheldon guy - unless it's DM players who killed him lol). Anyways, it's just WIFOM. True but he wouldn't have been mislynched this game. Everyone had a townread on him and even I have to admit that he played really well at least day2. He makes sense as a medic dodge for example. On March 11 2014 03:31 Grackaroni wrote: No that's not true. Mafia last second switch because they panic. I've done it before; I think it's pretty common. What are you achieving with this post? Do you want to say something with it? Do you think Dandel is mafia or are you just posting to be posting? On March 11 2014 03:34 Grackaroni wrote: haha don't be an ass just because Oats got killed before you. This implies you are sure rayn is town. Are you? On March 11 2014 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Fair enough. If Grack does not make a decent contributin in the next 24hours i will 100% switch my vote on him. I will quote you on that again. | ||
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On March 11 2014 03:45 boonetown wrote: this is the world that scares me, his paranoia this game early on led me to believe he was town, now it's just kinda cray cray and seems forced and pushy. On March 11 2014 04:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote: if you're actually the medic, you should probably re-evaluate your 1/2 scum of Grack/Dandel because they both probably aren't mafia at this point I will have to reread what you said end of day2/start of day3 about templar but your scumread on him - like the one on killing before - just seems awfully convenient right now. | ||
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On March 11 2014 07:27 Palmar wrote: Oats was supertown, he was a good shot by the mafia. Because they couldn't mislynch him, yes. | ||
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On March 11 2014 07:29 Palmar wrote: And just so it's clear I have no qualms lynching Grack either. I probably feel better about that case than this one, but rayn seems to like this one so I'm easy. You are really that convinced about rayn by now? | ||
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I almost liked your raging better than that to be frank. Whatever, pretty sure I want to keep you around for now. | ||
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On March 11 2014 07:34 Palmar wrote: The points he made about templar on day 1 basically showed he was reading the thread very attentively. I am no, not entirely certain, and a lot of his other play makes me question him being town, but it's good enough reasoning for me to assume he is. Ok, the problem I have with him still stands. He goes for one lynch and shits on every discussion attempt besides that. HAVING SAID THAT I will now reread his templar stuff (old and new). | ||
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Yo slam, can we get a little more input? Who is scum? Who could be scum? Who is definitely not scum? | ||
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On March 11 2014 08:12 Alakaslam wrote: Oh Grack is likely town to me Could you explain this one in more detail? | ||
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I am still not 100% sold on him especially because of things like this: On March 07 2014 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: On Killing i am not so sure. I totally get his point about the contradiction, but the thing is it's not only mafia that contradicts themself and to be honest what does mafia!Killing gain in calling boone not mafia and then calling her mafia? At least half of the town at that time thought boone was mafia and given Killing's conclusion (boone best lynch) why not just be consistent in his read? Of course it's possible that he jsut fucked up his thought process as scum in one post but that's not usually what mafia does because they are more careful in what they post. I have VERY RARELY seen mafia contradict themselves in single post like that. I don't understand why robik just decides Killing is mafia based on that and does not investigate that any further, especially given that he was weighing the lynch between VE/Killing at the eod1. Holy shit is that bad. Especially if you are grilling people for contradictions all the fucking time. I can see where he is coming from regarding templar but I don't know if I want to lynch that guy over Grack atm tbh (I don't understand why rayn is defending Grack all game). I don't remember this to be Gracks townplay. General complaint: Rayn, your new case on templar reads more like a summary of what he did than an explanation for why he is scum for the most part (I know it can be figured out what you mean usually) and I am not a fan of linking posts instead of quoting them. It makes it harder to follow your thought process. Situation right now: Would lynch into Grack/Templar. | ||
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On March 11 2014 09:09 Alakaslam wrote: rofl Slam you are not ohshit Scum curse me And if I'm voting you by the end of the day you will curse me by the songs of let's go Seems things lookin up Anyway I still have yet to see reason to moov my vote Oh god, lol. | ||
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On March 11 2014 09:11 GGTeMpLaR wrote: you mean reads like an incorrect summary I don't know what town is doing this game Well, we lynched scum yesterday. That's a start. Do you not include yourself in the word "town"? | ||
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On March 11 2014 09:12 IAmRobik wrote: I'll never be able to explain this to anyone, but scum is unable to make this post. Like, my left pinky toe is on the line here if Templar flips mafia. You don't seem to value that one very much dude... | ||
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On March 11 2014 19:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's the point. He calls people scum without telling why they are scum. Did you read his defence? He twists every piece of argument into something that it isn't and calls me names. rofl, i am not switching my vote. I yell you at post game if you don't see why that dude is mafia. True but to be fair this seems like a dm thing somehow. Just look at boone - she does exactly the same. Or are you calling both of them mafia? | ||
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On March 11 2014 21:13 Grackaroni wrote: I'm really not a fan of the Templar lynch. We would probably be a lot better off lynching into Dandel or Boone. Ok, could give us a more general view of this game? Also, please give reasons for those 2 targets. | ||
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On March 11 2014 21:14 Grackaroni wrote: Probably going to end up on me though lol. If you keep on playing like you do that is very possible. So if you are town start doing something. | ||
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On March 11 2014 21:17 Grackaroni wrote: I think he's had some good posts. Specifically the ones about Boone not changing her reads after still thinking it was both me and Dandel after not getting shot as the medic. Additionally, I don't think that there's anything wrong with him changing his read on me. He thought that I was town entirely for sheeping his argument on VE, who he thought was scum. Of course his read is going to be altered after VE flips town. You don't seem to think Palmar is scum btw? | ||
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On March 11 2014 21:25 Grackaroni wrote: There's not a lot of other people really to consider. I think Palmar has put in more effort into this game than I would really expect from his scum game. In any event I don't think scum would be bold enough to switch his vote in the way that he did on day1, first planting his vote on VE and then swapping at the last second to Killing. The only way I see him being scum is if he is with Dandel. I think that you are probably too active to be scum, but I haven't actually bothered to filter you. Slam is town Boone just defends herself a lot and has one of the shorter filters/it seems kind of strange that her reads didn't change after the night kill. Not really the best way to PoE but I think the chances of her being mafia are pretty high when you compare it to everybody else in the game excluding myself. Dandel's vote is just really suspicious and deserves a lot more attention than it has gotten. Dandel didn't mention anything about VE or Killing all day long and kept talking about sticking to the Templar train and then he switched at the very last second. If he thought Killing was town and VE was mafia then he should have been in thread trying to push people into lynching VE over Killing like I was. To say nothing and then kill VE is suspicious. How is it more suspicious than to actually push for a VE lynch? | ||
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On March 11 2014 21:28 Grackaroni wrote: Because he didn't want to be seen as pushing for VE and then changed his vote onto VE at the last second and came out the next day and said he thought Killing was town. If you think Killing is town then you say, "I think Killing is town" when he is getting lynched. The problem with this is how fast it went down. He probably didn't even have the time to justify his vote. Apart from that I don't see how voting without justification would make look less suspicious. | ||
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On March 11 2014 21:25 Grackaroni wrote: I think Palmar has put in more effort into this game than I would really expect from his scum game. In any event I don't think scum would be bold enough to switch his vote in the way that he did on day1, first planting his vote on VE and then swapping at the last second to Killing. The only way I see him being scum is if he is with Dandel. I take it you have seen Palmars scum game? It has to be lurk city by your description. If you expect scum Palmar to be lazy I don't really follow your townread here. | ||
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On March 11 2014 22:06 Grackaroni wrote: Regardless of votes I think it was pretty obvious that the lynch was between Killing and VE. There was a time when it looked more like templar/killing. | ||
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On March 11 2014 22:19 Grackaroni wrote: Yes I think that both mafia were on VE. That's reasonable I guess. lol, didn't even notice how slam is voting for rayn. | ||
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On March 11 2014 22:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: It was directed to Grack regarding my post before the quoted one. Yeah, I just meant you weren't talking about Grack there, you get it. | ||
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On March 11 2014 22:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Fuck i thought boone didn't vote for VE.. bad me. If she hadn't claimed she would be right up there with grack and templar for me. | ||
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On March 11 2014 22:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think it has something to do with this. I just have no idea what lol. Could he possibly mean what I posted? The quote of your killing thoughts? I think so. | ||
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On March 11 2014 22:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: You should know me JAT. I rarely give a shit about what people post, i give a shit about WHY they do post what they do. Maybe. But what I see in this quote is you defending a mafia with weak and suspicious reasoning. Anyways you should probably discuss this with slam since he is the one voting you for it. You are not my lynch for today. | ||
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On March 11 2014 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also i gave a clear reasoning why in my opinion Killing's post did not make sense from mafia perspective. Agreed? So if you think i am scum for that why don't you then say so? Well, I can not see in your brain rayn. I see templar getting attacked for calling slam scum and town in one post and I see this quote and it doesn't add up. | ||
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On March 11 2014 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because being wrong does not make anyone mafia and my my resaoning is not suspicious unless you want to point out why, then we can discuss it. We could. But my time is limited and it doesn't help us finding the lynch target for today so I'd rather not have to argue with you. Don't need no PYP LOL 2. | ||
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On March 11 2014 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like I really hate when people do this. Killing's alignment does not make my post any less townie/scummy. Because i gave a clear reasoning why i said what i did. If people want to call me mafia for that post they should have done so right after i made the post, not after Killing flips mafia because the flip is IRRELEVANT. Being wrong =/= mafia and i would hope people would learn that at some point.. If it makes you feel better I think the post would be similarily irritating if it wasn't about flipped mafia. | ||
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I hope so. Would make this game much easier. | ||
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On March 11 2014 22:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also you should put your votes on ggtemplar. I am considering it but I would like to hear from him before. | ||
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On March 11 2014 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Funny thing. templar says he has been pro-active and trying to figure out shit. JAT go through templar's filter, ctrl+f "?" in his filter and see how many questions & conclusions based on those questions he does have in his filter. Nice observation. There are nearly no questions that are gaining him information. There are rhetorical questions, questions used in his own defense but apart from that... Possibly useless observation: If he for once posts a real question then it's often directed at slam or about slam somehow. This might be the strongest argument you brought up thus far. | ||
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On March 11 2014 23:45 Dandel Ion wrote: By voting it, usually. u so wise | ||
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On March 11 2014 23:46 IAmRobik wrote: it came right after a post that you made to him Did it? Maybe. I am too lazy to check that. Thought it was about Grack at the time. | ||
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On March 11 2014 23:49 IAmRobik wrote: I could be wrong...i just scrolled up and saw that you said something about him to actually do something in the game so that we could tell his alignment and then all of a sudden he says welcome to my town list I think we are both wrong and dandel is right. | ||
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On March 11 2014 23:49 Palmar wrote: I just read the voting thread, I think I may be mafia. About which one of the 2 Palmars are we talking here? | ||
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On March 11 2014 23:49 Palmar wrote: I just read the voting thread, I think I may be mafia. oh god lol, who posts this shit? | ||
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On March 12 2014 01:27 boonetown wrote: how have i been doing that? granted, i know i'm flip flopping a lot on my reads, but i think i have to to try and get better at this medium of mafia. i'm trying to learn from your guys at the same time that i'm trying to actually help, it's not easy. but i dont think i've done any name calling other than maybe 1 or two times when i was frustrated, and yeah, i shouldn't have. but to say i'm acting the same as templar is so far from the truth. It's not about the namecalling. It's about the unexplained reads. | ||
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On March 12 2014 01:26 Palmar wrote: Also I don't call people bad post-game for lynching me, unless it's done without giving me a chance to explain things. You have given me plenty of time to explain things so if I get lynched it's on me. Remember, if I get lynched because you want me lynched, you've successfully managed to lynch me using terrible arguments (they're terrible by definition as I'm not mafia) and I couldn't win over bad arguments. hence, my fault. I like this mindset. | ||
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On March 12 2014 01:50 boonetown wrote: you aren't lynching me today, yes i have been a little lurky the last day or so, but i have been active in the earlier days. life happens as i'm sure you're all aware. i am here now and just reading through the pages. other than you thinking i should be policy lynched for something i didn't realize i wasn't supposed to do, or making "statement posts" which might just be the way i play... what else makes me mafia in your eyes? Let's see.... being a non-factor in pushing/questioning people, overall defensiveness and excuses/lack of confidence and unexplained weird reads. | ||
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On March 12 2014 01:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Anyways, right now, assuming Rayn is wrong, I can't really put stock into his townreads because I know his reads are shit this game. He will get time to re-evaluate them once I flip green though so hopefully he can figure this shit out after he wastes one of the misslynches based on a "meta-read". I know there seems to be this huge town circle from Rayn/Palmar that seems to conclude that Grack/Dandel/Palmar/Rayn/Slam are all town but I know this can't be the case because I'm fairly confident that Robik is town now so it can't be Robik/Boone, meaning someone is pretty fucking wrong. So your scumread on rayn has vanished? | ||
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On March 12 2014 02:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote: It's not vanished. If I meta-read him he's playing almost the same as his other town game (although not exactly the same). I'm suspicious over that small discrepancy but it's so small it could just be regular town-town discrepancy in his play. I think his accusations against me are bullshit but apparently I'm the only one (aside from the Grack point I concede). I can sort of understand where he's coming from though, and almost everyone here seems to think he's town at this point so it's pretty pointless beating a dead horse. If he's mafia you guys probably already lost. In any case he isn't the lynch today. Ok. If you think so there are only 2 ways for you to survive this day. 1) You convince rayn that you are town. Unlikely. 2) You make a better case on a mafia. Maybe possible. | ||
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On March 12 2014 02:22 boonetown wrote: Okay, here we go.... I still think that between Grack and Dandel there is a mafia, and with you in there, we might have 2. If I am wrong, then I can see a world where it's Templar/Robert. I'm pretty sure based on votes and activity and post content that Rayn and JAT are town. Alaka is more of a weird question mark to me because of Hair. I want to think Alaka is mafia, but I can't. Robert seems to be playing fairly similar to what I'm used too, I know his style and aggression isn't everyone's cup of tea but he can usually figure the game out later on. He's better late game than he is early game. Templar, I just don't see him putting this much effort into his posts as mafia, and if he did, he would try harder to make them more cohesive I think. Instead he's posting what he thinks as he thinks it and to me that's really town. I also think that while i'm not used to the foul mouthed templar, it's a change he needed to make to make sure people take him seriously. For that, I want to say he's town. Grack and Dandel, I hate you both. Lol. I feel like I'm either really really wrong, or right on the money. I just can't figure out where I'd be wrong, aside from the fact that I'm alive. Grack, you tried pretty hard on D1 to not talk about killing and to try and understand templar's play so that you could say based on other people's reads, that he's town. I might be reading it wrong, but that's what I took from it. I guess in this case, there could be a world where you and Templar are mafia together. I just don't want to live in that world. I'll give some more reads after I'm done reading certain filters. You know what's funny? You are asked to give scumread and what you are doing is giving townreads with reasoning and scumreads without. | ||
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On March 12 2014 02:27 boonetown wrote: you're so fucking wrong it's laughable. the fact that you are this wrong on me, makes me wonder how wrong you are about other people. i HAVE to explain myself this game, i HAVE to let me know that this is new for me, because if they assume i'm in this game because I know what I'm doing, i'm even more of a detriment to town than I am now. You also cannot say to me or anyone that this is my mafia play, because you have never seen me play like this before. You need to adapt your reading on people this game, just as I am trying to. I wouldn't have been buried, and I guarantee you if I wasn't the medic, I would have played D1 much differently, and probably much better. So to say that unless I claimed medic on D1 I would have been buried isn't true. I claimed because I had too, because it's my role and I wanted to try and get at least one save. Until that point I hadnt even been able to use my role. So, if I could get just ONE save, I would have died happy. That being said, if I wasn't claiming medic on D1 it would be because I had a different role, or no role at all, in which case my play would have been different and I could have defended accordingly. I HAVE given reads, I have also given reasons, they just aren't adding up so people can't make sense of them. Hell, I can't really make sense of them. I am working on it, it's why they change and I flip flop. Give me a fucking break. Then we have identified part of the problem if you are town. Don't play differently because you are a blue role. Always play like a VT. | ||
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On March 12 2014 02:31 boonetown wrote: I'm not lying, I thought I was pretty active D1 and D2, or at least as active as life allowed me to be. I know some of my posts were longer but I explained why they would be, if you want me to explain it again... I will. No, no, no. Don't do that. Your contributions need to be on point from now on. No mentioning of video mafia no mentioning of rl or the likes of that. | ||
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On March 12 2014 02:35 boonetown wrote: I was a non factor!?!? I questioned joey start of D2, determined he was mafia, and voted accordingly. I also tried my best to explain to people WHY i thought he was mafia. I tried to explain why I thought Austin was mafia on D1 and Rayn was town (though we now know I was wrong on austin). I tried to get him lynched, and no one was having it. Yes, I have excuses and maybe I'm lacking a little confidence and I don't really care if this is scummy to you or not. I know my role and alignment, and if you don't want me to explain why I have played the way I have, don't ask me. I am defensive because that is how I play, and I'm frustrated. I shouldn't have played this game, I even tried to get out of it at one point but was told because of my video mafia and epicmafia games, I qualified. Now that I'm here, I'm out of my element, I have no fucking clue where I'm going wrong and people want to push on me for the most retarded reasons, without accepting that my excuses are FACTS. You want to lynch me, for right ahead. You'd be doing me a huge fucking favor at this point. At the start of D2 mafia knew Joey was going down no matter what. Better bus him. Your excuses may be facts. The scummy thing about is that you are bringing them up all the time in the first place. Just stop that and contribute by giving reads/questioning/pushing people. | ||
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For now: ##Vote.GGTemplar | ||
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On March 12 2014 02:44 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I didn't give up that's very convenient of you though JAT Is it? Then you better try lynching me while I am away! Maybe you will succeed! | ||
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On March 12 2014 06:58 Dandel Ion wrote: "lynching who the cop tells you to is bad play" -Rayn 2014 " A cop without a check isn't more informed than a normal townie" - JAT 2014 | ||
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On March 12 2014 07:22 Dandel Ion wrote: thrawn effectively modconfirmed robik town in PM and i still tried to lynch him because fuck that. Then he modconfirmed him again and I stopped giving a shit. Town hero right here. | ||
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On March 12 2014 07:27 Balla24 wrote: This game was so freaking cool besides the huge shit show every day. Props thrawn. The cool thing about this game was that there were no modkills or replacements. Good job people. Also welcome to the dm guys^^ | ||
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On March 12 2014 07:29 marvellosity wrote: jat, was sad you were on Templar Why? I wasn't sure about it but I had to decide because there was no time left for me. | ||
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On March 12 2014 07:31 justanothertownie wrote: Why? I wasn't sure about it but I had to decide because there was no time left for me. Also I forgot that the deadline was one hour earlier so I thought I had some time to reconsider... | ||
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On March 12 2014 07:33 marvellosity wrote: Because Templar was consistently trying and Grack simply wasn't And why is it sad that I voted him and not for example Palmar? | ||
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Why the hell are you guys picking on me? I did my best | ||
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On March 12 2014 07:37 marvellosity wrote: I wasn't picking on you. Was just saying I was sad :p At least noone would have ever lynched me this game. | ||
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On March 12 2014 07:41 Promethelax wrote: Oats and JAT town MVPs. I was impressed by both. People (palmar) really need to learn to read Ryan though. Palmar's sheeping love of everything Ryan did was awful and actually very confusing from a spectator point of view. On day2 he wanted to sheep me | ||
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On March 12 2014 07:43 marvellosity wrote: btw I was very confused when Killing didn't get lynched d1 after his boone slip that's not really the kind of mistake townies tend to make, and that kinda mistake is gold-dust on d1. you basically lynch off that alone, and there weren't good reasons not to besides. It was confusing that town didn't jump all over it. The dude who got lynched (VE) recognised it as the best thing in the thread and voted accordingly Go away with your rational thinking and reason! Triumph! | ||
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On March 12 2014 07:50 boonetown wrote: IM SORRY IM SO BAD YOU GUYS. I feel bad at how horribly I played. I'll work on it. Normal. I don't even want to look at my first game because it was that horrible T_T | ||
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On March 12 2014 07:55 Palmar wrote: I told you, rayn confused me and thus I couldn't quite figure the game out. I kept being close (killing 2nd choice day 1, grack 2nd choice day 3) but yeah. Never played with rayn as scum before. And I was convincing you I wasn't scum, as I was pretty sure you weren't scum! The problem was that you weren't sure YOU weren't scum. Or something like that... | ||
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On March 12 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote: yay town! yay Koshi! | ||
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On March 12 2014 08:07 Alakaslam wrote: It is never impossible to win if you are able to fool folks. That being said that can be really really really hard to the point that it may as well be impossible Rayn would have been lynched. After Grack flips he looks soooo awful. | ||
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On March 12 2014 08:12 boonetown wrote: See, but that that's what I should have done, a newbie game. Not a game with a shit ton of players that know that they're doing and won't understand how I play. Lol I disagree. Newbies are totally different. I mean it's probably personal preference but my philosophy is that you will learn faster if you play with better players. | ||
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On March 12 2014 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: btw i am going to say this right now. from this game on i will policy lynch anyone who posts a townie seal. i refuse to vote for anyone else than a seal poster and i refuse to post anything until they/me die. What if there are 2 seal posters? | ||
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On March 12 2014 08:42 austinmcc wrote: I don't remember people being suspicious of me at the end of the day. A little boone suspicion, and slam was on me, but otherwise hadn't everyone moved off? Pretty sure that the end of D1 looked really townie for me. Yes. But if I had seen what you wrote about me in your little qt I wouldn't have trusted you! | ||
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On March 12 2014 08:44 Grackaroni wrote: Need some townies posting scum seals. You should talk to Palmar. Maybe you can arrange something. | ||
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On March 12 2014 08:46 austinmcc wrote: I would have dropped you once killing flipped. You felt VERY townie to me in PYP:LoL if I remember correctly, and here you felt...middle of the pack-ish. Just something I didn't pick up on or a vibe you weren't throwing off. But like rayn pointed out, the two of you together didn't make sense, and I wouldn't have pushed you over killing. Mainly just wanted to poke you on D2, try to get you to post more, commit to some thoughts, and read you off that. To post more? I had the biggest filter in the game after day1! | ||
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On March 12 2014 08:50 austinmcc wrote: It sounds dumb, but yeah. Even if the volume of posts was high, I didn't have a clear read on you, and so was gonna pester you a bit and get more posts. Ok. Btw if your early posting in the thread would have been as good as your qt posting I wouldn't have been suspicious about you in the first place. | ||
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On March 12 2014 08:55 Oatsmaster wrote: Yay wheeeeee we won!!! Well played sir. I am amazed, | ||
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this Palmar!
