On March 05 2014 08:35 austinmcc wrote: Is there a particular differentiation you make between townslam's trolling and scum slam?
I checked Aperture 2, and he was relatively trolly there as well at the start, couldn't really identify anything in particular that might push me one way or the other on just his D1.
You must trust the Chupazi. No I haven't seen scum slam play like he has this game. But I guess I could take a look at Aperture 2 if you feel strongly about it.
I don't feel terribly strongly about it, but it's not a bad thing to look at. I was scum with him that game so I don't have a sense of how his posts felt, since I already knew his alignment.
I have no idea why boone is so emotional. I don't like that she really focuses on those long summary posts and doesn't interact much with the thread, she hasn't really taken part in more than one "ongoing discussion" yet.
Lol, I didn't realize I was being emotional but will admit that I have been defensive. I know it comes off as scummy to most, but it's just how I play. I don't like being called out on shit I don't think I actually did. I'm not going to play the noob card right now, so we'll just leave the interaction part as, ongoing and i'm working on it.
Last game I played with Alakaslam, he was town and he trolled very differently - it made me want to policy lynch him because he really didn't ever explain his reads on Day1 and just trolled a lot like he wanted to be read scummy. This game, his early trolling read more like he was trying to be funny while still appearing to contribute. Not much to go on, which is why it was a simple gut read.
ii. First Triumvirate
I early read Robik as town because it lined up with his town video meta. It most mostly him being hyper-confident, even borderline aggressive, in his reads and not giving a fuck what other people thought. As the game has progressed, this condition has grown more serious and my town read on him grown more confident.
I early read Killing as town because it also lined up with his town video meta, although it was much more tentative than my read on Robik. He came out of the gates ambitiously like an enthusiastic youth aspiring to find and slay scum and make a name for himself. This lined up with one of his town styles, not one of his mafia styles. As the game has progressed, I've grown more comfortable reading him as town because his logic/reasoning lines up with how I would expect him to be making reads, most specifically, on Robik and myself - barring his townread of VE for trying to break up a fight, which was dumb.
I early read Boone as town for the same meta read from video play-style. This was the most tentative of the three, but as town, she sometimes behaves in what typically might be considered scummy (like being apologetic in her first post or letting everyone know "I'm worried guys it's my first game! [hint: IM TOWN]") - especially since she expressed nervousness pre-game about it being her first forum game. I was sympathetic at first, but then it all went wrong.
iii. The Heist
Now, I wasn't by any means sure of these four reads. However, I had a plan. I could post them without reasons and get lots of reactions from the town that could potentially be useful for myself or for other townies in the future (it dragged on a little long but w/e).
Later in the thread, Killing pointed out that Slam seemed to change his disposition entirely from my initial scumread of him, but I personally felt like he was unphased/motivated if anything. Further, he seemed to bring up what was a good case for scumreading Boone (her meta aside). I liked him more after this.
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote: Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.
Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Fwiw that boonetown quote is textbook scum
Textbook scum
so, you're attempting to prove 2 things right now from what i can gather, 1) you have no idea what 'text book scum' means AND 2) you don't know how to read people that you've never played with.
I was actually attempting to be funny with my first post while at the same time letting everyone know I wasn't down to just lynch someone based on RNG. I guess I'm not as funny as I thought, and having an opinion that differs from the rest, is seen as scummy here. FML, I should stick to video mafia.
CAN'T YOU READ THE TONE OF MY VOICE!?
Basically, everything underlined lead me to begin questioning my read on Boone from "aw town Boone why do you say these things?" to "holy shit is she scum?". It was really defensive I felt even for her. So I did the vote trick again to see how she reacted.
Ultimately from their interactions, I came to have a light town read on Slam and a light scum read on Boone, which I still hold now. The only thing that's made me second-guess scumreading her is when she outed her QT thread for reasons that she was afraid of being manipulated in it by mafia and having it hurt town.
On the off-chance that you are town Boone, you should re-evaluate your meta-read on me based on
On March 05 2014 02:11 boonetown wrote: You know better than to vote so fast on something so small.
because voting in this is very different than voting in video mafia, especially when we are using a plurality lynch system. There is no risk of a misslynch from voting early or freely because you can always unvote.
GGTeMpLaR 03-03-2014 06:37 PM ET (US) I know you're both mafia don't talk to me I don't trust either one of you
VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted 03-03-2014 07:25 PM ET (US) The fuck? Fine then.
justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 02:14 AM ET (US) wat
justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 02:15 AM ET (US) VE, we gonna talk? I don't really know how we should work with this since we are only masoned for a day.
GGTeMpLaR 03-04-2014 11:37 AM ET (US) are u guys town
justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 11:57 AM ET (US) what a useless question
justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 12:19 PM ET (US) Weird. I thought there was only one foundation mason and now boone is claiming she is masoned with rayn and austin.
GGTeMpLaR 03-04-2014 12:23 PM ET (US) ya me too
anyways ill post some shit later
don't stay up for me baby
VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 12:49 PM ET (US) I WOULD talk, except that GG is in here. He's probably scum sooooooooooooo this is tainted.
How about this: let's just talk in the thread? We'll use this at night, as intended.
justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 12:50 PM ET (US) Deal.
VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 03:48 PM ET (US) Templar you die if you don't convince me you're town either here or in the thread. Just putting that in here since it's already out there.
Honestly, it wasn't me trying to look paranoid or me being paranoid. I thought it would be a good icebreaker and maybe even mildly funny, but VE took it oddly seriously.
On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote: He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat.
Actually, the bold was my first reaction too. Which is why I asked before I posted anything. I understand getting voted for lurking too much, but you're picking at straws with that one.
Anyways, I'm here for a while - I know thread will have questions about my other reads.
TL;DR TL;DR TL;DR - Top town is Robik. Town read on Killing too. Light town on Slam but it's more tentative. Still read Boone as mafia but there's still like 23 hours for me to evaluate shit.
I have called you out, and have even voted on you (as have a few others). In video mafia, you're a pretty easy read for me which I have already stated, and you have neglected to speak much at all in the thread. I will for now assume you are using the QT, because you just laying low and not talking at all would be super weird for me. I would like for you to at least talk a little in here, so we can get a better read on you.
Tell me your thoughts on the game thus far, and how you feel about the reasons i've stated for you to be scum. You of all people know how I play, so cough it up, do you disagree with my read on you and if so, why?
Nobody should assume that templar is posting in the qt. He has like 3 posts and there is zero content. Not that VE and me would be using it that much - we agreed on only using it at night.
On March 05 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote: Nobody should assume that templar is posting in the qt. He has like 3 posts and there is zero content. Not that VE and me would be using it that much - we agreed on only using it at night.
There is no content from either of you in the QT either. I just shared it with everyone though since you weren't interested in shedding any light on the situation.
I bet the formating of that post took you way more time then coming up with those reads. Any reads besides your video mafia buddies? Any opinions on what happened in the thread?
I thought the way you argued with Dandel earlier and cluttered up the thread with meta crap was scummy at first, but then you kept doing it even after people kept pinging you so I read you as more of a reckless townie than scum right now.
I must thank thee GGTeMpLaR, hast found my next OMGUS.net portrait
Irregardless I told ye all, fear the deep Svengali! But give unto me questions and I shall provide answers. And throw before me slander, that I may assuage the concerns of my fellows with wisdom through honesty.
On March 05 2014 08:35 austinmcc wrote: Is there a particular differentiation you make between townslam's trolling and scum slam?
I checked Aperture 2, and he was relatively trolly there as well at the start, couldn't really identify anything in particular that might push me one way or the other on just his D1.
You must trust the Chupazi. No I haven't seen scum slam play like he has this game. But I guess I could take a look at Aperture 2 if you feel strongly about it.
I don't feel terribly strongly about it, but it's not a bad thing to look at. I was scum with him that game so I don't have a sense of how his posts felt, since I already knew his alignment.
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