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On March 05 2014 05:32 boonetown wrote:
I ask asked in the QT by Austin if it 'bothered' me that everyone was calling GGtemplar scum now. My answer was no, and I went on to say that I found it very contradicting that he would question how i felt on a templar BW, when more people were talking about me and my allignment and voting on me earlier, and he didn't once bring that up in the thread or QT. Unless I missed that, but I don't think I did.
I sort of hate this game.
Why the hate?
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Another Palmar thing I'm missing is stressing the importance of being read as town on D1 for all townies.
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Sit tight Palmar, you'll probably be put in one eventually. Mine gets shut down after tonight and a new one starts up with new people.
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On March 05 2014 06:48 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Another Palmar thing I'm missing is stressing the importance of being read as town on D1 for all townies. I thought I covered that with my rant on how I needed you to look town as I couldn't count on other people looking town earlier in the day.
I took that as a rant directed at me rather than a challenge to the rest of town. At any rate, now that I look townie to you what do you think of GGTemp as a lynch? I'm pushing it not as an inactivity policy lynch, but based on the things he's said in the QT. I understand that's not super helpful to you, but considering what he HAS done in the thread, I can't imagine you opposing it.
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On March 05 2014 07:30 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 04:28 boonetown wrote: Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far? Austin is leaning town more and more, which is unfortunate because I was pretty happy thinking I found a mafia in the QT. GGtemp, if you have ever seen him play, is the most paranoid town player in the history of mafia, ever. He would rather sleep every single day of the game in order to not mislynch someone. He only votes if he's mafia, or if he knows the vote won't go through, as a trolly way to make it look like he made a choice. Either templar isn't even trying, or he's mafia. That's where I'm currently at with his allignment. VE what did you think of Boonetown's explanation of GGTemp's play because him saying you were both scum in QT lines up with her description of his town play.
I haven't played /much/ with GGTemp, but from my experience with him this isn't his town play. And Boone's conclusion said that he's either A) not trying at all or B) Mafia. I explained why I think his entrance to the QT is more in line with a scum perspective than a townie one. He didn't sound like a paranoid townie, he sounded like scum trying to sound like a paranoid townie.
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I feel better about GGTemp from him posting - not so much because I like his targets or his townreads or whatever, but because the way he's defending himself /feels/ genuine. Like, "I wasn't here, now I am, deal wit it". Boone's defense however looks like this:
On March 05 2014 09:33 boonetown wrote:
Okay templar, this is for you...
I have called you out, and have even voted on you (as have a few others). In video mafia, you're a pretty easy read for me which I have already stated, and you have neglected to speak much at all in the thread. I will for now assume you are using the QT, because you just laying low and not talking at all would be super weird for me. I would like for you to at least talk a little in here, so we can get a better read on you.
Tell me your thoughts on the game thus far, and how you feel about the reasons i've stated for you to be scum. You of all people know how I play, so cough it up, do you disagree with my read on you and if so, why?
Note how diplomatic this is. She's supposedly suspicious of Templar too, and look at the bolded statement! Who asks a scumread if they disagree with them ABOUT themselves? Does that even make sense? To anyone? What's he supposed to say there? "Oh well you know, I wasn't convinced before but now I guess you're right I could be scum" No. He's not supposed to say anything but "no" in that situation regardless of his alignment, so why ask it? This whole post reads to me like she knows Temp is town but wants him to townread her even though she has to call him scum based on her previous posting. She's concerned about appearing consistent. It's scummy, and frankly I could lynch boone today.
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##Vote: boonetown
I'll be back tomorrow to see if she posts anything valuable to me, but right now I think she's a good lynch.
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Okay I skipped ahead like a bad boy and people really want to lynch me? For real?
I'm going back to read, but if there's not an actual case on me in the thread by the time I catch up, heads will roll.
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On March 06 2014 02:15 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2014 02:11 IAmRobik wrote:On March 06 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2014 02:02 IAmRobik wrote:I think it's a bit cute that Joey's defending me here. I also think it's cute that he think I'm more BM than he  I dunno, what makes you think he is defending you rather than templar? maybe it's cause you just tried to lump me and joey as maf together. Maybe it's cause he has me as his top town. Okay why do you think he does not bring up Dandel who has actually shat on you? I don't know. I'm not fully caught up. I don't want to discuss Dandelion though. I've made my opinions on him well known and if I were leading the lynch today, he would be out of the game...but....you know...I'm not...so..............
Best post I've read since I woke up.
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Okay, I was gonna get pissed, but after rereading it's just Grack being Grack and Oats being Oats, there's no wagon and no case, no one REALLY wants to lynch me, so we're fine.
Doing stuff now. The post I quoted a second ago isn't the post I wanted to quote - it's not the best post I've read since I woke up let me go find that shiz right now.
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On March 06 2014 02:13 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote:
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.
I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.
Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?
Here are my updated reads:
Strong Town
Rob
Leaning Town:
Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion
Neutral
Grack
Oats
VE
Leaning Maf
Alakazam
Rayn
Strong Maf
Boone
I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify
There's a contradiction in the bolded parts. You say that her play is off and you can't get a good feel on whether she is maf or town, but that you lean scum on her (by the end of that bolded paragraph), but then you list her under "STRONG MAF" reads. I am so wishy-washy on Boone right now, I think having her as "strong maf" is quite the stretch.
This is the post I was referring to. I find the contradiction simply staggering in the post Rob quotes here.
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But this one is god awful, you don't have a case and you don't feel strongly about me one way or the other. IF you make a case I'll pwnz it otherwise I'm ignoring your farcical push.
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On March 06 2014 03:40 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 03:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, I was gonna get pissed, but after rereading it's just Grack being Grack and Oats being Oats, there's no wagon and no case, no one REALLY wants to lynch me, so we're fine.
Doing stuff now. The post I quoted a second ago isn't the post I wanted to quote - it's not the best post I've read since I woke up let me go find that shiz right now. Maaaaaaan, there are legitimate reasons to look askance at you. Crappy ones like "amg scumteam balance", less crappy ones like "VE tosses a single post on Boone into thread, votes, leaves".
Okay regarding the less crappy one, it was 4 am and I went to bed. Do you disagree with the one post I made? If so, why? If not, then what's your point?
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On March 06 2014 03:43 Dandel Ion wrote:
The only reason I'd have for not lynching Killing is that he's not calling me scum like all the other newbies do.
I don't really see a scum motivation for that.
To be fair, you've gone HAM BM on anyone who even looks at you for like...every game you've ever played. Considering Killing is new, and considering he's been lurky for the most part, does it not stand to reason that he's not calling you scum because he doesn't want you to be looking too carefully at him?
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Boone is a hard read on Forum mafia. She's very good at Video Mafia, but one thing I've noticed about her play in Video Mafia is that it's based EXCLUSIVELY on body reads. She has NEVER in my experience with her made a read based on what people have said, logic, contradictions, anything. She has SPECTACULAR reads....when they're made based on body reads.
That being said, I'm willing to give her more time to prove to at least me that she's just out of her medium here.
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I'm also willing to kill Palmar for not knowing for a fact that I'm town at this point. Players like Grack/Oats are like..meh. But Palmar should know.
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On March 06 2014 03:48 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 03:44 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 06 2014 03:43 Dandel Ion wrote:
The only reason I'd have for not lynching Killing is that he's not calling me scum like all the other newbies do.
I don't really see a scum motivation for that. To be fair, you've gone HAM BM on anyone who even looks at you for like...every game you've ever played. Considering Killing is new, and considering he's been lurky for the most part, does it not stand to reason that he's not calling you scum because he doesn't want you to be looking too carefully at him? But he doesn't know that. And there's really no point in buddying me.
Not buddying. Was asking a question. Fuck off then.
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On March 06 2014 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Boone is a hard read on Forum mafia. She's very good at Video Mafia, but one thing I've noticed about her play in Video Mafia is that it's based EXCLUSIVELY on body reads. She has NEVER in my experience with her made a read based on what people have said, logic, contradictions, anything. She has SPECTACULAR reads....when they're made based on body reads.
That being said, I'm willing to give her more time to prove to at least me that she's just out of her medium here.
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##Vote: Killing Why are you voting for Killing over ggtemplar?
Because when I reread Templar before I slept I felt better about him. I see you've got a case against him now, let me go have a look-see.
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On March 06 2014 03:58 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2014 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Boone is a hard read on Forum mafia. She's very good at Video Mafia, but one thing I've noticed about her play in Video Mafia is that it's based EXCLUSIVELY on body reads. She has NEVER in my experience with her made a read based on what people have said, logic, contradictions, anything. She has SPECTACULAR reads....when they're made based on body reads.
That being said, I'm willing to give her more time to prove to at least me that she's just out of her medium here.
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##Vote: Killing Why are you voting for Killing over ggtemplar? Money question. Some not so townie people are going after killing but almost no scummy people wanting to lynch templar right now (oats, VE, killing, austin - noone is going after him). That's the way I see it.
So wait, you're now calling me one of the scummy people not going after Templar?
What IS your read of me JAT?
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Voting Killing. As misguided as Temp is, that last post reads as pretty townie, so Killing it is. Rob's post on his contradiction regarding Boone is the strongest evidence in the thread imo, and everyone should have a look.
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Because at the time of Killing's post on boone there is a LOT of suspicion on boone. Not just a lot of people, but players that people are likely to listen to or sheep. And Killing comes in and says, in the same post, "I have no read on Boone" and "Boone is my top scumread". This is the very definition of wishy-washiness. He distances himself from the lynch by saying "Yeah well I don't know one way or the other" but adds his support to the wagon by putting her as his SOLE mafia read.
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