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Cavalinho
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gumshoe
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On February 28 2014 16:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Exactly, that's why lynching mafia on D1 as scum is terrible. It confirms too much when you look at early D1 reads. It's the worst position you can ever be as mafia. This, thats why I personally feel the game is so won right now, if scum had the power to get Mocsta lynched, no matter the fall out, that was the move they should have made. The only reason they didnt? They couldn't. 2 of the 4 on Moc are scum almost guaranteed, Vivax will reveal himself tonight, Cava's probs town, Jar is 100 percent scum, and if vax is actually vig we just lynch toad instead of him. | ||
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geript
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On February 28 2014 16:22 Cavalinho wrote: Again, this just banks on the fact that mafia might actually be incompetent enough to allow two of their three members to be the ones with the highest votecounts for the first day of play, which is highly unlikely. The only time I've ever seen 2 scum up for lynch was in a hydra game iirc. And that was 99% because of how active and late day shenannies there were. Like town refused as a group to lynch town and balanced on reads and were deciding which of 3 scum to lynch (Sandroba/syllogism got a free pass though). NSB and Raynmaster were the default lynch away from FMB(Prome/someone), WaveofCheesecake and MockArmor. I've read a bunch and I can't think of any other similar situation with both wagons being scum day 1. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On February 28 2014 16:35 TheChyz wrote: Thanks for calling my post terrible and basically using almost all of the same confirmed townies that I listed aswell. ++ points to you The post is terrible because you basically list what suki has done but you don't end up in any new conclusions. Like everything you concluded has been said already. | ||
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gumshoe
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On February 28 2014 16:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: The post is terrible because you basically list what suki has done but you don't end up in any new conclusions. Like everything you concluded has been said already. Game is solved, cant fault him for not finding anything when theres too little to be found. | ||
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geript
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On February 28 2014 16:36 Cavalinho wrote: And for the record, I absolutely followed my reads. I thought that rayn and HF were stronger townreads that knew something that I didn't. And they did. Honestly nobody cares. Sheeping is fine and lots of people do it. We want and expect you to get your thought processes out in the thread so we can either lynch the fuck out of you or confirm you as town. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On February 28 2014 16:37 geript wrote: The only time I've ever seen 2 scum up for lynch was in a hydra game iirc. And that was 99% because of how active and late day shenannies there were. Like town refused as a group to lynch town and balanced on reads and were deciding which of 3 scum to lynch (Sandroba/syllogism got a free pass though). NSB and Raynmaster were the default lynch away from FMB(Prome/someone), WaveofCheesecake and MockArmor. I've read a bunch and I can't think of any other similar situation with both wagons being scum day 1. Again read these: A Quiet game mini mafia Normal mini mafia Episode 1 | ||
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Cavalinho
United States946 Posts
On February 28 2014 16:39 geript wrote: Honestly nobody cares. Sheeping is fine and lots of people do it. We want and expect you to get your thought processes out in the thread so we can either lynch the fuck out of you or confirm you as town. Yeah, but I died for it last game. Hence why I'm so hesitant to do it. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On February 25 2014 19:17 Palmar wrote: But tbh, 90% of skill in mafia is just sheeping the right people. So there's that. Trust it. | ||
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Cavalinho
United States946 Posts
On February 28 2014 16:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: A wise man (town Emperor) called Palmar once said this: Trust it. Message received. Heading off to bed. Good luck during the night gentlemen. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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geript
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On February 28 2014 16:35 TheChyz wrote: Thanks for calling my post terrible and basically using almost all of the same confirmed townies that I listed aswell. ++ points to you It's bad because there's no reasoning in it. Like there's nothing specific in the filter that you draw out or try to infer. Like, just flat out going off of my memory from reading her filter I can absolutely tell that you read it. But you aren't connecting things at all. Like I've explained each of my town reads in thread and had good reasoning behind them. Like Vivax had a really weird vivaxy heuristic he used on wave and one so unique it's hard to replicate as scum. Wave was drawing too many connections together to be scum. Mocsta had a really funny threat to wave about making him go to a computer. Rayn had the miller joke. You have this really "learning my own style" of posting that makes you look really towny to me. Trust me like there's no way anything you've posted is any worse than half the shit I posted early on but it's how you post that matters. Like syllogism had a super town read on me in LIX despite the fact my posting was godawful. Hmmm the more I talk about it it makes you sound scummy instead of new but like it's newbyish (in a good way). | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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 It was so terrible reasoning it was good! | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Mocsta
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On one hand I find this relatively townie in a CB type of way. On February 28 2014 00:36 JarJarDrinks wrote: Note the votecount just before this postSorry, Didn't really see that as a question @ first Well my answer u probably wont like because it involves pre-flip association but here goes: I'm starting to suspect that suki may be GSs scumbuddy. It would explain why Gumshoe is trying to paint me in such a bad light for giving her a townread. It also explains his entry into the thead. Like Maybe he sees you jump on her for her posting style and he's all like "Fuck, she's caught already. Lemme go bus a little to try to get something out of this." Like I already pointed out (and you sorta agreed to), your case wasnt very good. And also as you said, nothing seemed to come of it. He threw a vote on her when no one else was voting her and took it off pretty quickly. + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2014 23:57 Aquanim wrote: Votecount Mocsta (2) - geript (1) - TheChyz (1) - Toadesstern (1) - JarJarDrinks (0) - gumshoe (1) - WaveofShadow (0) - suki (2) - Vivax (3) - WaveofShadow, Not Voting - Ange777, Cavalinho Vivax was under pressure at the time, not Suki. Given the back/forth between JJD/GS at the time, this comment seemed contextually natural. Where it becomes awry for me is: On February 28 2014 06:37 JarJarDrinks wrote: I still feel like gumshoe scumslipped that moc was town On February 28 2014 06:48 JarJarDrinks wrote: The timing is just really really bad given the flip, and I'm not completely sold why JJD felt it was better to attempt to ensure I should be lynched over Suki (given his fixation with Gumshoe)##Unvote ##Vote Mocsta Prob have to go in a few but will be on before the deadline. Not crazy about it but better than a suki lynch methinks. Its possibly answered by: On February 28 2014 06:05 JarJarDrinks wrote: I added the <not>; but overall, it leaves me 50/50.And again you're misrepresenting things. You're making it look like all of a sudden suki became a top scumread of mine. All I said was I was starting to suspect she was your scumbuddy. It's <not> like I'm pushing for her to be lynched. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On February 28 2014 16:37 gumshoe wrote: This is a really bad thing to put into town atmosphere.This, thats why I personally feel the game is so won right now, if scum had the power to get Mocsta lynched, no matter the fall out, that was the move they should have made. The only reason they didnt? They couldn't. 2 of the 4 on Moc are scum almost guaranteed, Vivax will reveal himself tonight, Cava's probs town, Jar is 100 percent scum, and if vax is actually vig we just lynch toad instead of him. I have been in a few games as town and lynched scum d1 and then lost. When the atmosphere becomes, meh this game is ezpz.. people stop giving a fuck and scum have permission to stop trying. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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geript
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On February 28 2014 16:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Again read these: A Quiet game mini mafia Normal mini mafia Episode 1 Remind me after game but after skimming to see the scum teams, I think that's based more on who the teams were. Besides, Moc has actually had an ok thread presence. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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On February 28 2014 16:58 geript wrote: Remind me after game but after skimming to see the scum teams, I think that's based more on who the teams were. Besides, Moc has actually had an ok thread presence. Yes but he was not here, suki was not here, when the lynch was actually swung from "we don't know what the fuck to do" into "let's lynch suki/Mocsta". Vivax was on the table, gumshoe, JJD.. They were all on the table at that point. | ||
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