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On February 28 2014 16:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:And i had asuper town read on you once because i asked if you think your hydra partner is mafia.  It was so terrible reasoning it was good!
That still makes me giggle in delight.
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maybe even you geript, and toad.
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On February 28 2014 16:58 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 16:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 28 2014 16:37 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 16:22 Cavalinho wrote:On February 28 2014 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And even if Mocsta is mafia, why would Chyz not vote for one of them? One of them gets lynched 100%, why does Chyz NOT take ACTUAL credit for the lynch by hammering scum? It makes no sense to me and that's why i think he is not mafia. Again, this just banks on the fact that mafia might actually be incompetent enough to allow two of their three members to be the ones with the highest votecounts for the first day of play, which is highly unlikely. The only time I've ever seen 2 scum up for lynch was in a hydra game iirc. And that was 99% because of how active and late day shenannies there were. Like town refused as a group to lynch town and balanced on reads and were deciding which of 3 scum to lynch (Sandroba/syllogism got a free pass though). NSB and Raynmaster were the default lynch away from FMB(Prome/someone), WaveofCheesecake and MockArmor. I've read a bunch and I can't think of any other similar situation with both wagons being scum day 1. Again read these: A Quiet game mini mafiaNormal mini mafia Episode 1 Remind me after game but after skimming to see the scum teams, I think that's based more on who the teams were. [red]Besides, Moc has actually had an ok thread presence. [/erd] Not really, im just posting for in case I flip someone will finally listen.
otherwise ppl pretty much ignore everything I write.
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On February 28 2014 17:02 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 16:58 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 16:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 28 2014 16:37 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 16:22 Cavalinho wrote:On February 28 2014 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And even if Mocsta is mafia, why would Chyz not vote for one of them? One of them gets lynched 100%, why does Chyz NOT take ACTUAL credit for the lynch by hammering scum? It makes no sense to me and that's why i think he is not mafia. Again, this just banks on the fact that mafia might actually be incompetent enough to allow two of their three members to be the ones with the highest votecounts for the first day of play, which is highly unlikely. The only time I've ever seen 2 scum up for lynch was in a hydra game iirc. And that was 99% because of how active and late day shenannies there were. Like town refused as a group to lynch town and balanced on reads and were deciding which of 3 scum to lynch (Sandroba/syllogism got a free pass though). NSB and Raynmaster were the default lynch away from FMB(Prome/someone), WaveofCheesecake and MockArmor. I've read a bunch and I can't think of any other similar situation with both wagons being scum day 1. Again read these: A Quiet game mini mafiaNormal mini mafia Episode 1 Remind me after game but after skimming to see the scum teams, I think that's based more on who the teams were. [red]Besides, Moc has actually had an ok thread presence. [/erd] Not really, im just posting for in case I flip someone will finally listen. otherwise ppl pretty much ignore everything I write.
I am listening to you and you are not getting lynched any time soon.
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Like until Vivax is confirmed and all of Toad/JJD/Cav have been lynched and flipped town i am not considering you as a lynch.
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On February 26 2014 10:31 suki wrote:
@geript care to share reads? I take it you are leaning town on Mocsta? What about me?
Might be overthinking, but this post makes me feel a lot better about Geript.
I think this is phrased in a way to seek information vs. pointless banter.
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On February 28 2014 17:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 16:58 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 16:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 28 2014 16:37 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 16:22 Cavalinho wrote:On February 28 2014 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And even if Mocsta is mafia, why would Chyz not vote for one of them? One of them gets lynched 100%, why does Chyz NOT take ACTUAL credit for the lynch by hammering scum? It makes no sense to me and that's why i think he is not mafia. Again, this just banks on the fact that mafia might actually be incompetent enough to allow two of their three members to be the ones with the highest votecounts for the first day of play, which is highly unlikely. The only time I've ever seen 2 scum up for lynch was in a hydra game iirc. And that was 99% because of how active and late day shenannies there were. Like town refused as a group to lynch town and balanced on reads and were deciding which of 3 scum to lynch (Sandroba/syllogism got a free pass though). NSB and Raynmaster were the default lynch away from FMB(Prome/someone), WaveofCheesecake and MockArmor. I've read a bunch and I can't think of any other similar situation with both wagons being scum day 1. Again read these: A Quiet game mini mafiaNormal mini mafia Episode 1 Remind me after game but after skimming to see the scum teams, I think that's based more on who the teams were. Besides, Moc has actually had an ok thread presence. Yes but he was not here, suki was not here, when the lynch was actually swung from "we don't know what the fuck to do" into "let's lynch suki/Mocsta". Vivax was on the table, gumshoe, JJD.. They were all on the table at that point.
No Vivax was effectively off because of the claim. Gumshoe, idk I never really felt like he was gaining traction. JJD, idk maybe but like so many people have given him a soft town read at points that I find it hard to believe most people would shift to him. Like it really felt like to me it was Mocsta, suki or me; just that no one wanted to "roll the dice" on me.
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On February 28 2014 17:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like until Vivax is confirmed and all of Toad/JJD/Cav have been lynched and flipped town i am not considering you as a lynch.
LOL.. yeah watevz, i expect the game to be over by then too so i suppose its acceptable to consider me on the chance that plan above failed.
carry on.
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On February 28 2014 17:05 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 17:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 28 2014 16:58 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 16:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 28 2014 16:37 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 16:22 Cavalinho wrote:On February 28 2014 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And even if Mocsta is mafia, why would Chyz not vote for one of them? One of them gets lynched 100%, why does Chyz NOT take ACTUAL credit for the lynch by hammering scum? It makes no sense to me and that's why i think he is not mafia. Again, this just banks on the fact that mafia might actually be incompetent enough to allow two of their three members to be the ones with the highest votecounts for the first day of play, which is highly unlikely. The only time I've ever seen 2 scum up for lynch was in a hydra game iirc. And that was 99% because of how active and late day shenannies there were. Like town refused as a group to lynch town and balanced on reads and were deciding which of 3 scum to lynch (Sandroba/syllogism got a free pass though). NSB and Raynmaster were the default lynch away from FMB(Prome/someone), WaveofCheesecake and MockArmor. I've read a bunch and I can't think of any other similar situation with both wagons being scum day 1. Again read these: A Quiet game mini mafiaNormal mini mafia Episode 1 Remind me after game but after skimming to see the scum teams, I think that's based more on who the teams were. Besides, Moc has actually had an ok thread presence. Yes but he was not here, suki was not here, when the lynch was actually swung from "we don't know what the fuck to do" into "let's lynch suki/Mocsta". Vivax was on the table, gumshoe, JJD.. They were all on the table at that point. No Vivax was effectively off because of the claim. Gumshoe, idk I never really felt like he was gaining traction. JJD, idk maybe but like so many people have given him a soft town read at points that I find it hard to believe most people would shift to him. Like it really felt like to me it was Mocsta, suki or me; just that no one wanted to "roll the dice" on me. I can tell you reading the thread, I thought I was going to get lynched and was prety annoyed because it was like 4-5min past the deadline and had caught up on liek 20 pages or something.
So yes, teh indication was it was me or suki going down.
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On February 28 2014 17:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
maybe even you geript, and toad.
Nah toad had no chance of being lynched there was no sentiment towards him whatsoever grumble grumble.
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On February 28 2014 17:05 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 17:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 28 2014 16:58 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 16:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 28 2014 16:37 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 16:22 Cavalinho wrote:On February 28 2014 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And even if Mocsta is mafia, why would Chyz not vote for one of them? One of them gets lynched 100%, why does Chyz NOT take ACTUAL credit for the lynch by hammering scum? It makes no sense to me and that's why i think he is not mafia. Again, this just banks on the fact that mafia might actually be incompetent enough to allow two of their three members to be the ones with the highest votecounts for the first day of play, which is highly unlikely. The only time I've ever seen 2 scum up for lynch was in a hydra game iirc. And that was 99% because of how active and late day shenannies there were. Like town refused as a group to lynch town and balanced on reads and were deciding which of 3 scum to lynch (Sandroba/syllogism got a free pass though). NSB and Raynmaster were the default lynch away from FMB(Prome/someone), WaveofCheesecake and MockArmor. I've read a bunch and I can't think of any other similar situation with both wagons being scum day 1. Again read these: A Quiet game mini mafiaNormal mini mafia Episode 1 Remind me after game but after skimming to see the scum teams, I think that's based more on who the teams were. Besides, Moc has actually had an ok thread presence. Yes but he was not here, suki was not here, when the lynch was actually swung from "we don't know what the fuck to do" into "let's lynch suki/Mocsta". Vivax was on the table, gumshoe, JJD.. They were all on the table at that point. No Vivax was effectively off because of the claim. Gumshoe, idk I never really felt like he was gaining traction. JJD, idk maybe but like so many people have given him a soft town read at points that I find it hard to believe most people would shift to him. Like it really felt like to me it was Mocsta, suki or me; just that no one wanted to "roll the dice" on me.
There is no way mafia would know what will happen because Vivax had not claimed yet and until Wave started yelling consolidation there were at most 2 votes on someone. I think you are misreading the situation.
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On February 26 2014 10:46 suki wrote:I didn't really understand why toad and rayn called each other town, but it didn't strike me as completely odd. Certainly not scummy. Hmm Toad just replied with reasoning let me see.Show nested quote +Does anyone really think either mafia-Rayn or mafia-Toad would pass up on this chance to call the other one a retard? I don't think so. This is pretty much toad's reasoning on why rayn is town, pretty much a meta read. Which means nothing to me so I'll just wait for them to contribute more before coming to any conclusions. This is peculiar actually.
Given that Suki was scum, I think it would be natural to attack this post "which means nothing to me".
Definitely a point against Toad.
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On February 28 2014 16:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No no no no Cavalinho, you don't lynch your scumbuddy on D1 if you can avoid it. Lynching mafia D1 is far worse for scum than even all scum hard defending that said mafia.
And yet, Shadow Game.
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Here, this is just before my vote on suki.
On February 28 2014 04:34 Balla24 wrote:
Votecount
Mocsta (1) - suki, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Toadesstern
geript (2) - Toadesstern, TheChyz, Toadesstern
TheChyz (1) - raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks, Cavalinho, suki, suki
Toadesstern (1) - Geript, Geript
JarJarDrinks (1) - Geript, Gumshoe
gumshoe (1) - WaveofShadow, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks
WaveofShadow (0) - raynpelikoneet, Vivax
suki (1) - WaveofShadow, Gumshoe, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet
Vivax (2) - WaveofShadow, raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, suki
Vivax is currently set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in .
If any votes are missing or incorrect please let us know!
Do you think this looks like there is some clear direction??
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On February 28 2014 17:09 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 16:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No no no no Cavalinho, you don't lynch your scumbuddy on D1 if you can avoid it. Lynching mafia D1 is far worse for scum than even all scum hard defending that said mafia. And yet, Shadow Game.
Yeah but even marv thought they lost the game because of the lynch.
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Also Wave, that was a special example because sandroba is so so obvious scum and marv would have basically claimed scum by voting for Prome in that situation.
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On February 28 2014 17:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Here, this is just before my vote on suki. Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 04:34 Balla24 wrote:
Votecount
Mocsta (1) - suki, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Toadesstern
geript (2) - Toadesstern, TheChyz, Toadesstern
TheChyz (1) - raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks, Cavalinho, suki, suki
Toadesstern (1) - Geript, Geript
JarJarDrinks (1) - Geript, Gumshoe
gumshoe (1) - WaveofShadow, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks
WaveofShadow (0) - raynpelikoneet, Vivax
suki (1) - WaveofShadow, Gumshoe, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet
Vivax (2) - WaveofShadow, raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, suki
Vivax is currently set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in .
If any votes are missing or incorrect please let us know!
Do you think this looks like there is some clear direction??
No but vote count doesn't always equal thread sentiment. That JJD vote looks really out of place and sticks out like a sore thumb to me.
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On February 28 2014 17:18 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 17:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Here, this is just before my vote on suki. On February 28 2014 04:34 Balla24 wrote:
Votecount
Mocsta (1) - suki, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Toadesstern
geript (2) - Toadesstern, TheChyz, Toadesstern
TheChyz (1) - raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks, Cavalinho, suki, suki
Toadesstern (1) - Geript, Geript
JarJarDrinks (1) - Geript, Gumshoe
gumshoe (1) - WaveofShadow, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks
WaveofShadow (0) - raynpelikoneet, Vivax
suki (1) - WaveofShadow, Gumshoe, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet
Vivax (2) - WaveofShadow, raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, suki
Vivax is currently set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in .
If any votes are missing or incorrect please let us know!
Do you think this looks like there is some clear direction?? No but vote count doesn't always equal thread sentiment. That JJD vote looks really out of place and sticks out like a sore thumb to me.
What do you mean? Both JJD andd gumshoe have a big case against each other at the time.
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On February 28 2014 17:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 17:09 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 28 2014 16:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No no no no Cavalinho, you don't lynch your scumbuddy on D1 if you can avoid it. Lynching mafia D1 is far worse for scum than even all scum hard defending that said mafia. And yet, Shadow Game. Yeah but even marv thought they lost the game because of the lynch.
Yeah, and Shadow Game is precisely why I want to do some voting analysis when I get the chance tomorrow.
I do agree with what was said so far I think, in that it may be that scum really DID for once try and all-in to protect suki, but I have to be sure of that because many MANY games I've been a part of all show scum voting patterns in which they spread themselves out as much as possible.
Suki's last second switch likely doesn't count as it was self-preservation either way.
Again I have a whole bunch of time so I'll go into detail tomorrow but I think I like the lynch/shot plan thus far.
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On February 28 2014 17:18 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 17:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Here, this is just before my vote on suki. On February 28 2014 04:34 Balla24 wrote:
Votecount
Mocsta (1) - suki, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Toadesstern
geript (2) - Toadesstern, TheChyz, Toadesstern
TheChyz (1) - raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks, Cavalinho, suki, suki
Toadesstern (1) - Geript, Geript
JarJarDrinks (1) - Geript, Gumshoe
gumshoe (1) - WaveofShadow, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks
WaveofShadow (0) - raynpelikoneet, Vivax
suki (1) - WaveofShadow, Gumshoe, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet
Vivax (2) - WaveofShadow, raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, suki
Vivax is currently set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in .
If any votes are missing or incorrect please let us know!
Do you think this looks like there is some clear direction?? No but vote count doesn't always equal thread sentiment. That JJD vote looks really out of place and sticks out like a sore thumb to me.
The problem is, several votes on me were out of place
Toad, JJD, Cavalinho
Obviously they can not all be scum.
In hindsight,, Toad looks really bad for continuously pushign for me to lynched for the modkill thingo, and refusing to read the context.
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