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On February 28 2014 18:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 17:59 geript wrote:
No my point is more in gumshoe being right. Like ya, I could see wave being scum too but that's really more on his filter being way longer than mine. But no I'm referring to the "Tram is making sense and is therefore scum" heuristic. Yeah i can get that but are you referring to Ange or gumshoe possibly being scum with this?
I'm saying we should still expect from Ange but gumshoe making sense on a few specific things, especially how dogmatic he was about the read on me, like we need to take another really serious look at tram. Like it hit me right after the flip and I brushed it off, but I remembered BH posting in scum QT in the game about how he and I should mix it up together but he'd stop short of calling me scum. It reminded me of Gumshoe's softball post toward suki.
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On February 28 2014 18:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You heard our conversation @ the GSL game right?
No not that I can recall.
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On February 28 2014 18:06 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 18:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 28 2014 17:59 geript wrote:
No my point is more in gumshoe being right. Like ya, I could see wave being scum too but that's really more on his filter being way longer than mine. But no I'm referring to the "Tram is making sense and is therefore scum" heuristic. Yeah i can get that but are you referring to Ange or gumshoe possibly being scum with this? I'm saying we should still expect from Ange but gumshoe making sense on a few specific things, especially how dogmatic he was about the read on me, like we need to take another really serious look at tram. Like it hit me right after the flip and I brushed it off, but I remembered BH posting in scum QT in the game about how he and I should mix it up together but he'd stop short of calling me scum. It reminded me of Gumshoe's softball post toward suki.
Yeah i know. Like it was so friggin odd when i called Mocsta mafia gumshoe got suddenly really mad at me (because of JJD?!??!) and yelled "fuck you rayn Mocsta is town and suki is scum and you are wrong and so bad!!!"
read the conversation, it's so fucking odd.
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Still not finished reading, but a lot of points I disagree with. If Mocsta is scum too he doesn't have to be preferred to die over suki cause he could as well be a scum RB. And I'd rather lynch the GF who can just sit there and hope to be checked rather than a role that's able to actually do something.
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On February 28 2014 18:14 Vivax wrote:
Still not finished reading, but a lot of points I disagree with. If Mocsta is scum too he doesn't have to be preferred to die over suki cause he could as well be a scum RB. And I'd rather lynch the GF who can just sit there and hope to be checked rather than a role that's able to actually do something.
Yes, also Mocsta has far better chances imo to lead his team to victory than suki because he knows the players and knows what to do more likely than suki does just because of experience.
But anyways this is not a discussion point that's relevant now imo. Can you look at JJD and Toad and tell me what do you see when you are ready? Also Cavalinho and Chyz too.
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I'll look at it in the morning Rayn. I'm sweepy tired. His filter is interesting of what I've read.
Either way, we have to promise not to lynch him tomorrow either way. Like I'd feel so awful for lynching him over JJD or Toad and gumshoe flipping town. Like idk if I could ever play a game with him again out of shame of lynching him for playing so amazingly as town.
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Another thing:
I think there are several people who play far better when they are considered "confirmed town". That includes me, Vivax, Holyflare and Wave. I have no idea about Ange and geript. I know i play far better when noone has any reasons to call me mafia and therefore distract me or make me angry. I know at least Vivax and Wave do get distracted the same way. That's why i don't wanna talk about them as mafia, i wanna work with them.
I would love to "clear" Mocsta, but i don't want to. Just because he has been incredibly lazy this game and has said some pretty suspicious stuff. I don't want to call him mafia either, but instead give him some time to prove himself. Mocsta use it wisely and start saying wise stuff okay? 
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On February 28 2014 18:22 geript wrote:
I'll look at it in the morning Rayn. I'm sweepy tired. His filter is interesting of what I've read.
Either way, we have to promise not to lynch him tomorrow either way. Like I'd feel so awful for lynching him over JJD or Toad and gumshoe flipping town. Like idk if I could ever play a game with him again out of shame of lynching him for playing so amazingly as town.
Obviously not. I just don't want to clear him for what he has done.
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On February 27 2014 12:06 gumshoe wrote:Take a shit, cause your full of it.
I gotta admit though, you still probly need ice for this one Rayn.
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On February 28 2014 18:26 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 12:06 gumshoe wrote:On February 27 2014 12:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Take a break gumshoe. Take a shit, cause your full of it. I gotta admit though, you still probly need ice for this one Rayn.
I don't get offended by personal attacks. I have never seen gumshoe angry, never ever. Even when i YOLO'ed him 12 hours into the game without giving him chance to answer just because. That's why it's weird.
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Well, on the last two first. I found Chyz townie for that comment on wanting to lynch me even if I were a townie. Like, scum knows I'm town and mostly feels like I'm hardly attackable since the claim so they would not put it out there that the claim means jack to them and they would lynch me even knowing I'm town.
Overall the guy has said a few things that can come from newbie town, like lynching who is useless and not who is scum.
The above conclusion is based on the premise that scum is afraid to piss off/draw attention from townies that they can't get lynched anyway.
Cavalinho would need massive balls to do what he did as scum and his post flip reaction was similar to mine, so I went with town for that moment. But I still gotta read his filter with my scumhunting goggles on.
About JarJar I can say however that if he's scum he had massive balls too since gumshoe had been riding on the argument that he's scum for townreading suki all day long. And since suki was a very possible lynch he should have gotten cold feet at some point and reacted to gumshoe's pressure in a way that would be evident for somebody knowing her alignment.
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Like a couple weeks ago he made a myoral campaign that said "vote me for mayor because i am so bad".
Now he is suddenly so good?
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On February 28 2014 18:29 Vivax wrote:
Well, on the last two first. I found Chyz townie for that comment on wanting to lynch me even if I were a townie. Like, scum knows I'm town and mostly feels like I'm hardly attackable since the claim so they would not put it out there that the claim means jack to them and they would lynch me even knowing I'm town.
Overall the guy has said a few things that can come from newbie town, like lynching who is useless and not who is scum.
The above conclusion is based on the premise that scum is afraid to piss off/draw attention from townies that they can't get lynched anyway.
Cavalinho would need massive balls to do what he did as scum and his post flip reaction was similar to mine, so I went with town for that moment. But I still gotta read his filter with my scumhunting goggles on.
About JarJar I can say however that if he's scum he had massive balls too since gumshoe had been riding on the argument that he's scum for townreading suki all day long. And since suki was a very possible lynch he should have gotten cold feet at some point and reacted to gumshoe's pressure in a way that would be evident for somebody knowing her alignment.
On Chyz that is a really good point actually.
Dunno if i agree about Cavalinho. Do you mean it takes balls to call himself "right" after being on "wrong" lynch? Or what?
Also JJD, why would it take balls? I mean after the argument is on, he can't just go "okay okay, suki is in fact scummy" if he is scum and already decided to not call suki mafia.
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On February 28 2014 18:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Another thing: I think there are several people who play far better when they are considered "confirmed town". That includes me, Vivax, Holyflare and Wave. I have no idea about Ange and geript. I know i play far better when noone has any reasons to call me mafia and therefore distract me or make me angry. I know at least Vivax and Wave do get distracted the same way. That's why i don't wanna talk about them as mafia, i wanna work with them. I would love to "clear" Mocsta, but i don't want to. Just because he has been incredibly lazy this game and has said some pretty suspicious stuff. I don't want to call him mafia either, but instead give him some time to prove himself. Mocsta use it wisely and start saying wise stuff okay? Absolutety fuck you
Im modkilling myself you fucktard
I almost lost my job trying to play this fuckn game, and you have the audacity to say this to me.
Fuck you
From: Aquanim [ 1658 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Cultured Mini Mafia Role
Date: 2/26/14 08:04
You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special powers, but you have your voice and your vote.
You win with the town.
and good riddance.
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I feel bad now, like really really bad.
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No fuck, i don't think Cavalinho is mafia. The way he handled the lynch thing does not make any sense. Like he goes "i don't think suki is mafia" (reason to vote for Mocsta or anyone else) -> "I'll sheep my townreads on suki" (why would he do this when he said the opposite already) -> "fuck it i wanna kill Mocsta instead" (makes no sense as he's already set on bussing based on the comment before) -> "I am glad i was right!!" (makes ABSOLUTELY no sense as scum because he was not).
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Anyway, Rayn. I don't think Caval is scum simply cause of the way he behaved pre-lynch.
He first voted suki cause his townreads did that.
Then suki voted Mocsta, it was 5 to 4.
Aaaand ninjaed by rayn. I'll leave this unfinished ^
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EPT
