• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:35
CEST 20:35
KST 03:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy4Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27
Community News
Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."2Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey.3Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2)12BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack2Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1
StarCraft 2
General
Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson." Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2) Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey. I have an extra ticket to the GSL Ro4/finals
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Semi Finals & Finals $3,500 WardiTV European League 2025 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
ASL20 Preliminary Maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recent recommended BW games BW General Discussion FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 4
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 32070 users

Cultured Mini Mafia - Page 97

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 95 96 97 98 99 164 Next
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 28 2014 09:06 GMT
#1921
On February 28 2014 18:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 17:59 geript wrote:
No my point is more in gumshoe being right. Like ya, I could see wave being scum too but that's really more on his filter being way longer than mine. But no I'm referring to the "Tram is making sense and is therefore scum" heuristic.

Yeah i can get that but are you referring to Ange or gumshoe possibly being scum with this?

I'm saying we should still expect from Ange but gumshoe making sense on a few specific things, especially how dogmatic he was about the read on me, like we need to take another really serious look at tram. Like it hit me right after the flip and I brushed it off, but I remembered BH posting in scum QT in the game about how he and I should mix it up together but he'd stop short of calling me scum. It reminded me of Gumshoe's softball post toward suki.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 28 2014 09:07 GMT
#1922
On February 28 2014 18:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You heard our conversation @ the GSL game right?

No not that I can recall.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2014 09:11 GMT
#1923
On February 28 2014 18:06 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 18:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2014 17:59 geript wrote:
No my point is more in gumshoe being right. Like ya, I could see wave being scum too but that's really more on his filter being way longer than mine. But no I'm referring to the "Tram is making sense and is therefore scum" heuristic.

Yeah i can get that but are you referring to Ange or gumshoe possibly being scum with this?

I'm saying we should still expect from Ange but gumshoe making sense on a few specific things, especially how dogmatic he was about the read on me, like we need to take another really serious look at tram. Like it hit me right after the flip and I brushed it off, but I remembered BH posting in scum QT in the game about how he and I should mix it up together but he'd stop short of calling me scum. It reminded me of Gumshoe's softball post toward suki.

Yeah i know. Like it was so friggin odd when i called Mocsta mafia gumshoe got suddenly really mad at me (because of JJD?!??!) and yelled "fuck you rayn Mocsta is town and suki is scum and you are wrong and so bad!!!"

read the conversation, it's so fucking odd.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2014 09:12 GMT
#1924
Starts here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444078&currentpage=55#1093
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 28 2014 09:14 GMT
#1925
Still not finished reading, but a lot of points I disagree with. If Mocsta is scum too he doesn't have to be preferred to die over suki cause he could as well be a scum RB. And I'd rather lynch the GF who can just sit there and hope to be checked rather than a role that's able to actually do something.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2014 09:17 GMT
#1926
On February 28 2014 18:14 Vivax wrote:
Still not finished reading, but a lot of points I disagree with. If Mocsta is scum too he doesn't have to be preferred to die over suki cause he could as well be a scum RB. And I'd rather lynch the GF who can just sit there and hope to be checked rather than a role that's able to actually do something.

Yes, also Mocsta has far better chances imo to lead his team to victory than suki because he knows the players and knows what to do more likely than suki does just because of experience.

But anyways this is not a discussion point that's relevant now imo. Can you look at JJD and Toad and tell me what do you see when you are ready? Also Cavalinho and Chyz too.
table for two on a tv tray
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 28 2014 09:22 GMT
#1927
I'll look at it in the morning Rayn. I'm sweepy tired. His filter is interesting of what I've read.

Either way, we have to promise not to lynch him tomorrow either way. Like I'd feel so awful for lynching him over JJD or Toad and gumshoe flipping town. Like idk if I could ever play a game with him again out of shame of lynching him for playing so amazingly as town.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2014 09:23 GMT
#1928
Another thing:

I think there are several people who play far better when they are considered "confirmed town". That includes me, Vivax, Holyflare and Wave. I have no idea about Ange and geript. I know i play far better when noone has any reasons to call me mafia and therefore distract me or make me angry. I know at least Vivax and Wave do get distracted the same way. That's why i don't wanna talk about them as mafia, i wanna work with them.

I would love to "clear" Mocsta, but i don't want to. Just because he has been incredibly lazy this game and has said some pretty suspicious stuff. I don't want to call him mafia either, but instead give him some time to prove himself. Mocsta use it wisely and start saying wise stuff okay?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2014 09:23 GMT
#1929
On February 28 2014 18:22 geript wrote:
I'll look at it in the morning Rayn. I'm sweepy tired. His filter is interesting of what I've read.

Either way, we have to promise not to lynch him tomorrow either way. Like I'd feel so awful for lynching him over JJD or Toad and gumshoe flipping town. Like idk if I could ever play a game with him again out of shame of lynching him for playing so amazingly as town.

Obviously not. I just don't want to clear him for what he has done.
table for two on a tv tray
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 28 2014 09:26 GMT
#1930
On February 27 2014 12:06 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 12:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Take a break gumshoe.


Take a shit, cause your full of it.

I gotta admit though, you still probly need ice for this one Rayn.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2014 09:29 GMT
#1931
On February 28 2014 18:26 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 12:06 gumshoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 12:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Take a break gumshoe.


Take a shit, cause your full of it.

I gotta admit though, you still probly need ice for this one Rayn.

I don't get offended by personal attacks. I have never seen gumshoe angry, never ever. Even when i YOLO'ed him 12 hours into the game without giving him chance to answer just because. That's why it's weird.
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 28 2014 09:29 GMT
#1932
Well, on the last two first. I found Chyz townie for that comment on wanting to lynch me even if I were a townie. Like, scum knows I'm town and mostly feels like I'm hardly attackable since the claim so they would not put it out there that the claim means jack to them and they would lynch me even knowing I'm town.

Overall the guy has said a few things that can come from newbie town, like lynching who is useless and not who is scum.

The above conclusion is based on the premise that scum is afraid to piss off/draw attention from townies that they can't get lynched anyway.

Cavalinho would need massive balls to do what he did as scum and his post flip reaction was similar to mine, so I went with town for that moment. But I still gotta read his filter with my scumhunting goggles on.

About JarJar I can say however that if he's scum he had massive balls too since gumshoe had been riding on the argument that he's scum for townreading suki all day long. And since suki was a very possible lynch he should have gotten cold feet at some point and reacted to gumshoe's pressure in a way that would be evident for somebody knowing her alignment.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2014 09:30 GMT
#1933
Like a couple weeks ago he made a myoral campaign that said "vote me for mayor because i am so bad".
Now he is suddenly so good?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2014 09:38 GMT
#1934
On February 28 2014 18:29 Vivax wrote:
Well, on the last two first. I found Chyz townie for that comment on wanting to lynch me even if I were a townie. Like, scum knows I'm town and mostly feels like I'm hardly attackable since the claim so they would not put it out there that the claim means jack to them and they would lynch me even knowing I'm town.

Overall the guy has said a few things that can come from newbie town, like lynching who is useless and not who is scum.

The above conclusion is based on the premise that scum is afraid to piss off/draw attention from townies that they can't get lynched anyway.

Cavalinho would need massive balls to do what he did as scum and his post flip reaction was similar to mine, so I went with town for that moment. But I still gotta read his filter with my scumhunting goggles on.

About JarJar I can say however that if he's scum he had massive balls too since gumshoe had been riding on the argument that he's scum for townreading suki all day long. And since suki was a very possible lynch he should have gotten cold feet at some point and reacted to gumshoe's pressure in a way that would be evident for somebody knowing her alignment.

On Chyz that is a really good point actually.

Dunno if i agree about Cavalinho. Do you mean it takes balls to call himself "right" after being on "wrong" lynch? Or what?

Also JJD, why would it take balls? I mean after the argument is on, he can't just go "okay okay, suki is in fact scummy" if he is scum and already decided to not call suki mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 28 2014 09:42 GMT
#1935
On February 28 2014 18:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Another thing:

I think there are several people who play far better when they are considered "confirmed town". That includes me, Vivax, Holyflare and Wave. I have no idea about Ange and geript. I know i play far better when noone has any reasons to call me mafia and therefore distract me or make me angry. I know at least Vivax and Wave do get distracted the same way. That's why i don't wanna talk about them as mafia, i wanna work with them.

I would love to "clear" Mocsta, but i don't want to. Just because he has been incredibly lazy this game and has said some pretty suspicious stuff. I don't want to call him mafia either, but instead give him some time to prove himself. Mocsta use it wisely and start saying wise stuff okay?
Absolutety fuck you

Im modkilling myself you fucktard

I almost lost my job trying to play this fuckn game, and you have the audacity to say this to me.

Fuck you

From: Aquanim [ 1658 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Cultured Mini Mafia Role
Date: 2/26/14 08:04
You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special powers, but you have your voice and your vote.

You win with the town.

and good riddance.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 28 2014 09:44 GMT
#1936
O_o
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 28 2014 09:45 GMT
#1937
I feel bad now, like really really bad.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2014 09:45 GMT
#1938
No fuck, i don't think Cavalinho is mafia. The way he handled the lynch thing does not make any sense. Like he goes "i don't think suki is mafia" (reason to vote for Mocsta or anyone else) -> "I'll sheep my townreads on suki" (why would he do this when he said the opposite already) -> "fuck it i wanna kill Mocsta instead" (makes no sense as he's already set on bussing based on the comment before) -> "I am glad i was right!!" (makes ABSOLUTELY no sense as scum because he was not).
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 28 2014 09:47 GMT
#1939
Anyway, Rayn. I don't think Caval is scum simply cause of the way he behaved pre-lynch.

He first voted suki cause his townreads did that.
Then suki voted Mocsta, it was 5 to 4.

Aaaand ninjaed by rayn. I'll leave this unfinished ^
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2014 09:49 GMT
#1940
lol
just lol
table for two on a tv tray
Prev 1 95 96 97 98 99 164 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL: ProLeague
18:00
Bracket Stage: Day 3
Hawk vs UltrA
Sziky vs spx
TerrOr vs JDConan
LiquipediaDiscussion
CSO Cup
17:00
#80
Liquipedia
Cheesadelphia
15:00
Cheeseadelphia 2025
CranKy Ducklings485
davetesta66
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
BRAT_OK 88
MindelVK 50
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 24388
Calm 4251
Rain 2914
Horang2 1552
Dewaltoss 143
ZZZero.O 139
Nal_rA 133
JulyZerg 51
Rock 33
scan(afreeca) 23
[ Show more ]
Terrorterran 7
IntoTheRainbow 6
Dota 2
Gorgc7575
qojqva2445
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Grubby2715
Dendi1515
JimRising 808
Counter-Strike
fl0m6956
olofmeister3314
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King81
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor688
Liquid`Hasu545
Other Games
tarik_tv42984
gofns21239
C9.Mang0578
DeMusliM454
crisheroes411
B2W.Neo152
TKL 131
ArmadaUGS98
Trikslyr67
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream8397
Other Games
gamesdonequick1084
EGCTV905
StarCraft 2
angryscii 39
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 86
• Adnapsc2 25
• 3DClanTV 23
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4133
• WagamamaTV354
• Ler98
League of Legends
• Nemesis7347
Other Games
• imaqtpie1223
• Shiphtur320
Upcoming Events
GSL Code S
13h 25m
Rogue vs herO
Classic vs GuMiho
Sparkling Tuna Cup
15h 25m
WardiTV Qualifier
21h 25m
BSL: ProLeague
23h 25m
Bonyth vs Dewalt
Cross vs Doodle
MadiNho vs Dragon
ZZZero.O139
Replay Cast
1d 5h
Wardi Open
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
RSL Revival
3 days
herO vs sOs
Zoun vs Clem
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Serral vs SHIN
Solar vs Cham
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Reynor vs Scarlett
ShoWTimE vs Classic
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
SC Evo League
6 days
Circuito Brasileiro de…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-11
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
BLAST Open Fall 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.