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##unvote
##vote toadescum
That post makes me look much less sexy with the fail bolding.
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On February 26 2014 22:24 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 17:33 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 13:13 geript wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 26 2014 13:02 Mocsta wrote:@Geript Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 12:35 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 09:53 geript wrote:
The miller thing is a silly question. But super fast townread for bullshazazzle reasons. It's not a weird enough reason to call you town to make the observation likely come from town. Equally it's not obvious enough to be an alright soft read. It's just a completely random townread for no reason. That's super scummy. Apologies if this has been asked already. Red: Why is asking millers to claim stupid? Blue: Why is an random (unsubstantiated) town read, "super scummy". Is not the objective of scum to blend in and not put heat on themselves by doing these type of things that are "super scummy"? @Moc 1 Because there aren't millers. 2 A random unsubstantiated townread isn't super scummy automatically. Like, it's how you get there. For town there's a clear thought process no matter how good or bad. Rayn's good enough scum that he could 'fish back' as either alignment. Like it's a really simple thing for him to flat out say, "the miller fish response" for the townread thing and it's something really straight forward and I get. That type of response normally is pretty indicative of town, but how he responded initially had absolutely nothing to do with the miller thing. More importantly, the miller thing is only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn and not for Toad. The instatownread thing makes me feel even less confident about him. Like I don't get why he couldn't have explained the miller thing initially. 3 How people play scum is subjective. I don't think that everyone goes for the blendy-long-game type. Geript,I am having real trouble digesting your postings in general. You feel like you are writing "off-the-cuff" but the thoughts dont seem coherent??? Can you explain why the miller thing is semi-alignment indicative for rayn, and not for toad. Toad calls for millers to claim Rayn asks Toad if he's a miller Toad says no but he likes the question Rayn's response to Toadescum is like really really towny; it's an exceptionally off the cuff and funny that it's very hard to come from scum. The problem is that it's rayn and he's done this as either alignment many times. So that's why it's only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn. The thing is, at no point does any of this help read Toad; the initial miller thing isn't alignment indicative; recognizing Rayn's response as towny isn't alignment indicative. Like the only thing that's happened since him returning to the thread for him is nothing. If he were town, he'd at least try to give me an honest read. But since he's not he's probably just scum who fixated on a dashing sexy guy. [b\##unvote ##vote toadescum [/b]
So you think I am mafia because according to you, redfishing isn't alignment indicative, which I already stated myself and has nothing to do with why I read rayn as town or why I think his read on me is a nice one.
Because the rest of your post just explains how it's not alignment indicative.
And then you go on about how I don't give you an honest read? What? I said the read is 100% honest and serious at least 4 times now. Both reads actually if you want to include yourself as well because as you might have realized I'm getting you lynched right now.
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On February 26 2014 22:23 Toadesstern wrote:wait, how come noone considers this thing HF pointed out worth talking about: Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 11:33 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 11:31 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 26 2014 11:21 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 26 2014 11:14 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 11:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
@moc
Anything you want to discuss? Im drafting up my issues with Suki so feedback on that would be good when its released. As an aside/observation/muse till then, I havent read in detail the interactions between Geript/Toad/Rayn (as I have been focussed on you + Suki) however I am finding Rayns approach to Toad odd (regardless of alignment). Basically I know Rayn doesnt respect Toads town play. Red Herring or something to keep note of? Nah I'm generally okay with it. I don't find it alignment indicative for Rayn. Something JJD said reminded me of something: On February 26 2014 10:08 gumshoe wrote:
Mocsta seems into it this game, overall just sharper off the bat then when I was scum together with him just a few days ago. Hes been rolling red alot lately and thats been frustrating him, but I hear none of that agitation in his posts so far. Preliminary read of course, but I feel good about his accusation not coming from a place of deceit. So now I'm left wondering, is he right about Suki? Suki's post doesn't quite feel like it was thought out days in advance, (it's a fairly sloppy one and obviously susceptible to critique) but it does feel crafted, which gives me the sense that she read her pm an hour ago and started over thinking her opening. The post itself is also one that calls back to old games, an attempt at inducing nostalgia. How someones posting makes us feel can easily influence our perception of them and the harry potter claim might be aiming for that.
If Suki isn't scum she's either a) nervous, or b) baiting. Suki, which explanation do you prefer? In this post gumshoe doesn't offer the option that doesn't fit his idea of what suki is doing. (For example, she is neither AND is town.) Town should always be considering all options. I agree w/ this assesment. Also I find it odd that he seems to give moc a townread for some pretty terrible reasoning. Especially since IMO, moc has been acting pretty scummy. So... in Back to basics as both town, you found me scummy. in GSL Mini IV as me scum you town... you found me townie. in this game you find me scummy.... guess that means im town. Congratz JJD. Is a scumslip according to HF and I see where he's coming from because it doesn't look like Mocsta is even considering the possibility of JJD being mafia. He just flat out states that he's town without reasoning to "prove" his own towniness. At the very least this is worth some talking That's not what HF was calling a scumslip. He had some weird reasoning about how that post conflicted w/ an earlier post.
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On February 26 2014 22:23 Toadesstern wrote:wait, how come noone considers this thing HF pointed out worth talking about: Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 11:33 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 11:31 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 26 2014 11:21 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 26 2014 11:14 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 11:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
@moc
Anything you want to discuss? Im drafting up my issues with Suki so feedback on that would be good when its released. As an aside/observation/muse till then, I havent read in detail the interactions between Geript/Toad/Rayn (as I have been focussed on you + Suki) however I am finding Rayns approach to Toad odd (regardless of alignment). Basically I know Rayn doesnt respect Toads town play. Red Herring or something to keep note of? Nah I'm generally okay with it. I don't find it alignment indicative for Rayn. Something JJD said reminded me of something: On February 26 2014 10:08 gumshoe wrote:
Mocsta seems into it this game, overall just sharper off the bat then when I was scum together with him just a few days ago. Hes been rolling red alot lately and thats been frustrating him, but I hear none of that agitation in his posts so far. Preliminary read of course, but I feel good about his accusation not coming from a place of deceit. So now I'm left wondering, is he right about Suki? Suki's post doesn't quite feel like it was thought out days in advance, (it's a fairly sloppy one and obviously susceptible to critique) but it does feel crafted, which gives me the sense that she read her pm an hour ago and started over thinking her opening. The post itself is also one that calls back to old games, an attempt at inducing nostalgia. How someones posting makes us feel can easily influence our perception of them and the harry potter claim might be aiming for that.
If Suki isn't scum she's either a) nervous, or b) baiting. Suki, which explanation do you prefer? In this post gumshoe doesn't offer the option that doesn't fit his idea of what suki is doing. (For example, she is neither AND is town.) Town should always be considering all options. I agree w/ this assesment. Also I find it odd that he seems to give moc a townread for some pretty terrible reasoning. Especially since IMO, moc has been acting pretty scummy. So... in Back to basics as both town, you found me scummy. in GSL Mini IV as me scum you town... you found me townie. in this game you find me scummy.... guess that means im town. Congratz JJD. Is a scumslip according to HF and I see where he's coming from because it doesn't look like Mocsta is even considering the possibility of JJD being mafia. He just flat out states that he's town without reasoning to "prove" his own towniness. At the very least this is worth some talking
Is this for real... the entire point of those 3 lines was to state that JJD always reads me wrong
he got it straight away.
This isnt rocket science toad.
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On February 26 2014 22:28 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 22:24 geript wrote:On February 26 2014 17:33 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 13:13 geript wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 26 2014 13:02 Mocsta wrote:@Geript Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 12:35 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 09:53 geript wrote:
The miller thing is a silly question. But super fast townread for bullshazazzle reasons. It's not a weird enough reason to call you town to make the observation likely come from town. Equally it's not obvious enough to be an alright soft read. It's just a completely random townread for no reason. That's super scummy. Apologies if this has been asked already. Red: Why is asking millers to claim stupid? Blue: Why is an random (unsubstantiated) town read, "super scummy". Is not the objective of scum to blend in and not put heat on themselves by doing these type of things that are "super scummy"? @Moc 1 Because there aren't millers. 2 A random unsubstantiated townread isn't super scummy automatically. Like, it's how you get there. For town there's a clear thought process no matter how good or bad. Rayn's good enough scum that he could 'fish back' as either alignment. Like it's a really simple thing for him to flat out say, "the miller fish response" for the townread thing and it's something really straight forward and I get. That type of response normally is pretty indicative of town, but how he responded initially had absolutely nothing to do with the miller thing. More importantly, the miller thing is only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn and not for Toad. The instatownread thing makes me feel even less confident about him. Like I don't get why he couldn't have explained the miller thing initially. 3 How people play scum is subjective. I don't think that everyone goes for the blendy-long-game type. Geript,I am having real trouble digesting your postings in general. You feel like you are writing "off-the-cuff" but the thoughts dont seem coherent??? Can you explain why the miller thing is semi-alignment indicative for rayn, and not for toad. Toad calls for millers to claim Rayn asks Toad if he's a miller Toad says no but he likes the question Rayn's response to Toadescum is like really really towny; it's an exceptionally off the cuff and funny that it's very hard to come from scum. The problem is that it's rayn and he's done this as either alignment many times. So that's why it's only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn. The thing is, at no point does any of this help read Toad; the initial miller thing isn't alignment indicative; recognizing Rayn's response as towny isn't alignment indicative. Like the only thing that's happened since him returning to the thread for him is nothing. If he were town, he'd at least try to give me an honest read. But since he's not he's probably just scum who fixated on a dashing sexy guy. ##unvote
##vote toadescum So you think I am mafia because according to you, redfishing isn't alignment indicative, which I already stated myself and has nothing to do with why I read rayn as town or why I think his read on me is a nice one. Because the rest of your post just explains how it's not alignment indicative. And then you go on about how I don't give you an honest read? What? I said the read is 100% honest and serious at least 4 times now. Both reads actually if you want to include yourself as well because as you might have realized I'm getting you lynched right now.
There's literally nothing in there that even tries to call me scummy. He's calling me mafia based on "I don't think you people should consider it such a strong a town-tell"
The fuck
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On February 26 2014 22:30 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 22:23 Toadesstern wrote:wait, how come noone considers this thing HF pointed out worth talking about: On February 26 2014 11:33 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 11:31 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 26 2014 11:21 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 26 2014 11:14 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 11:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
@moc
Anything you want to discuss? Im drafting up my issues with Suki so feedback on that would be good when its released. As an aside/observation/muse till then, I havent read in detail the interactions between Geript/Toad/Rayn (as I have been focussed on you + Suki) however I am finding Rayns approach to Toad odd (regardless of alignment). Basically I know Rayn doesnt respect Toads town play. Red Herring or something to keep note of? Nah I'm generally okay with it. I don't find it alignment indicative for Rayn. Something JJD said reminded me of something: On February 26 2014 10:08 gumshoe wrote:
Mocsta seems into it this game, overall just sharper off the bat then when I was scum together with him just a few days ago. Hes been rolling red alot lately and thats been frustrating him, but I hear none of that agitation in his posts so far. Preliminary read of course, but I feel good about his accusation not coming from a place of deceit. So now I'm left wondering, is he right about Suki? Suki's post doesn't quite feel like it was thought out days in advance, (it's a fairly sloppy one and obviously susceptible to critique) but it does feel crafted, which gives me the sense that she read her pm an hour ago and started over thinking her opening. The post itself is also one that calls back to old games, an attempt at inducing nostalgia. How someones posting makes us feel can easily influence our perception of them and the harry potter claim might be aiming for that.
If Suki isn't scum she's either a) nervous, or b) baiting. Suki, which explanation do you prefer? In this post gumshoe doesn't offer the option that doesn't fit his idea of what suki is doing. (For example, she is neither AND is town.) Town should always be considering all options. I agree w/ this assesment. Also I find it odd that he seems to give moc a townread for some pretty terrible reasoning. Especially since IMO, moc has been acting pretty scummy. So... in Back to basics as both town, you found me scummy. in GSL Mini IV as me scum you town... you found me townie. in this game you find me scummy.... guess that means im town. Congratz JJD. Is a scumslip according to HF and I see where he's coming from because it doesn't look like Mocsta is even considering the possibility of JJD being mafia. He just flat out states that he's town without reasoning to "prove" his own towniness. At the very least this is worth some talking Is this for real... the entire point of those 3 lines was to state that JJD always reads me wrong he got it straight away. This isnt rocket science toad.
mmmh, yeah I got that but that does imply that you know JJD to be town, or you could be taking a dig at him I guess. So carry on.
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On February 26 2014 22:24 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 17:33 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 13:13 geript wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 26 2014 13:02 Mocsta wrote:@Geript Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 12:35 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 09:53 geript wrote:
The miller thing is a silly question. But super fast townread for bullshazazzle reasons. It's not a weird enough reason to call you town to make the observation likely come from town. Equally it's not obvious enough to be an alright soft read. It's just a completely random townread for no reason. That's super scummy. Apologies if this has been asked already. Red: Why is asking millers to claim stupid? Blue: Why is an random (unsubstantiated) town read, "super scummy". Is not the objective of scum to blend in and not put heat on themselves by doing these type of things that are "super scummy"? @Moc 1 Because there aren't millers. 2 A random unsubstantiated townread isn't super scummy automatically. Like, it's how you get there. For town there's a clear thought process no matter how good or bad. Rayn's good enough scum that he could 'fish back' as either alignment. Like it's a really simple thing for him to flat out say, "the miller fish response" for the townread thing and it's something really straight forward and I get. That type of response normally is pretty indicative of town, but how he responded initially had absolutely nothing to do with the miller thing. More importantly, the miller thing is only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn and not for Toad. The instatownread thing makes me feel even less confident about him. Like I don't get why he couldn't have explained the miller thing initially. 3 How people play scum is subjective. I don't think that everyone goes for the blendy-long-game type. Geript,I am having real trouble digesting your postings in general. You feel like you are writing "off-the-cuff" but the thoughts dont seem coherent??? Can you explain why the miller thing is semi-alignment indicative for rayn, and not for toad. Toad calls for millers to claim Rayn asks Toad if he's a miller Toad says no but he likes the question Rayn's response to Toadescum is like really really towny; it's an exceptionally off the cuff and funny that it's very hard to come from scum. The problem is that it's rayn and he's done this as either alignment many times. So that's why it's only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn. The thing is, at no point does any of this help read Toad; the initial miller thing isn't alignment indicative; recognizing Rayn's response as towny isn't alignment indicative. Like the only thing that's happened since him returning to the thread for him is nothing. If he were town, he'd at least try to give me an honest read. But since he's not he's probably just scum who fixated on a dashing sexy guy. [b\##unvote ##vote toadescum [/b]That explanatino is actually very reasonable for why you made taht comment.
hmmm, I was giving toad a townish lean based on joviality.
i cant say you have said enought o make me consider voting him though.
Have you looked into Chz at all?
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On February 26 2014 22:08 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 21:25 Holyflare wrote:Toad why you writing so much to justify your read on geript who you are already voting for? This is what doesn't add up: On February 26 2014 10:45 geript wrote:On February 26 2014 10:43 Toadesstern wrote:On February 26 2014 10:42 geript wrote:
Yup, I'm happy with my vote. so you knew about it but still came to the conclusion that the read is weird? Explain. ##vote geript Lets rolls this back a second. What about how I explained finding your read on Rayn was weird isn't making sense to you? Why are you using all of this to push geript when you thought he was scummy before you gave him the chance to explain? Explain and vote do not go together. so you're telling me I shouldn't push the guy I think to be the best lynch because that makes me look like I care? 1) The thing you quoted was before he stated that he knew what was going on all along 2) Asking him to explain lead to him saying that he knew all along what was going on 3) Making him talk about this will most likely make it easier for me to explain to you why geript needs to be lynched because look at his posts
On February 26 2014 21:31 Holyflare wrote:
No..........? I'm asking why he voted for a person whose intentions he must not of known because he qualifies the end of his post with an "explain?" If he did not know the explanation then why would the vote go down before he even heard the explanation?
Also,
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JJd, since you are here.
Thoughts on Chz and Suki pls.
(Regarding Suki, i get you think she was carefree at the start, but what about overall)
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On February 26 2014 22:32 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 22:08 Toadesstern wrote:On February 26 2014 21:25 Holyflare wrote:Toad why you writing so much to justify your read on geript who you are already voting for? This is what doesn't add up: On February 26 2014 10:45 geript wrote:On February 26 2014 10:43 Toadesstern wrote:On February 26 2014 10:42 geript wrote:
Yup, I'm happy with my vote. so you knew about it but still came to the conclusion that the read is weird? Explain. ##vote geript Lets rolls this back a second. What about how I explained finding your read on Rayn was weird isn't making sense to you? Why are you using all of this to push geript when you thought he was scummy before you gave him the chance to explain? Explain and vote do not go together. so you're telling me I shouldn't push the guy I think to be the best lynch because that makes me look like I care? 1) The thing you quoted was before he stated that he knew what was going on all along 2) Asking him to explain lead to him saying that he knew all along what was going on 3) Making him talk about this will most likely make it easier for me to explain to you why geript needs to be lynched because look at his posts Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 21:31 Holyflare wrote:
No..........? I'm asking why he voted for a person whose intentions he must not of known because he qualifies the end of his post with an "explain?" If he did not know the explanation then why would the vote go down before he even heard the explanation? Also,
because he's either not making sense or being mafia at that point in time. In both cases I want to vote him to figure out which one it is, or you know, to get him lynched because he's mafia.
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On February 26 2014 22:32 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 22:24 geript wrote:On February 26 2014 17:33 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 13:13 geript wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 26 2014 13:02 Mocsta wrote:@Geript Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 12:35 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 09:53 geript wrote:
The miller thing is a silly question. But super fast townread for bullshazazzle reasons. It's not a weird enough reason to call you town to make the observation likely come from town. Equally it's not obvious enough to be an alright soft read. It's just a completely random townread for no reason. That's super scummy. Apologies if this has been asked already. Red: Why is asking millers to claim stupid? Blue: Why is an random (unsubstantiated) town read, "super scummy". Is not the objective of scum to blend in and not put heat on themselves by doing these type of things that are "super scummy"? @Moc 1 Because there aren't millers. 2 A random unsubstantiated townread isn't super scummy automatically. Like, it's how you get there. For town there's a clear thought process no matter how good or bad. Rayn's good enough scum that he could 'fish back' as either alignment. Like it's a really simple thing for him to flat out say, "the miller fish response" for the townread thing and it's something really straight forward and I get. That type of response normally is pretty indicative of town, but how he responded initially had absolutely nothing to do with the miller thing. More importantly, the miller thing is only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn and not for Toad. The instatownread thing makes me feel even less confident about him. Like I don't get why he couldn't have explained the miller thing initially. 3 How people play scum is subjective. I don't think that everyone goes for the blendy-long-game type. Geript,I am having real trouble digesting your postings in general. You feel like you are writing "off-the-cuff" but the thoughts dont seem coherent??? Can you explain why the miller thing is semi-alignment indicative for rayn, and not for toad. Toad calls for millers to claim Rayn asks Toad if he's a miller Toad says no but he likes the question Rayn's response to Toadescum is like really really towny; it's an exceptionally off the cuff and funny that it's very hard to come from scum. The problem is that it's rayn and he's done this as either alignment many times. So that's why it's only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn. The thing is, at no point does any of this help read Toad; the initial miller thing isn't alignment indicative; recognizing Rayn's response as towny isn't alignment indicative. Like the only thing that's happened since him returning to the thread for him is nothing. If he were town, he'd at least try to give me an honest read. But since he's not he's probably just scum who fixated on a dashing sexy guy. [b\##unvote ##vote toadescum That explanatino is actually very reasonable for why you made taht comment. hmmm, I was giving toad a townish lean based on joviality. i cant say you have said enought o make me consider voting him though. Have you looked into Chz at all? [/b]
Not really, I've been giving him, Suki and the chavalino guy a newbie freebie pass for now. The only thing that I can really remember of him was I was thought it odd that his early post addressed me only and that he got all huffy when I missed his post.
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geript, how about you explain how you came to the conclusion that either of Rayn or me might trolling?
You think a townie OR a mafia see's someone fishing and the reasonable assumption is it's trolling?
Not some kind of plan behind it? Not some kind of bullshit? Not someone trying to cause chaos?
All explanations that are okayish/suck to some degree but I'd understand it. But trolling?
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On February 26 2014 22:24 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 17:33 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 13:13 geript wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 26 2014 13:02 Mocsta wrote:@Geript Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 12:35 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 09:53 geript wrote:
The miller thing is a silly question. But super fast townread for bullshazazzle reasons. It's not a weird enough reason to call you town to make the observation likely come from town. Equally it's not obvious enough to be an alright soft read. It's just a completely random townread for no reason. That's super scummy. Apologies if this has been asked already. Red: Why is asking millers to claim stupid? Blue: Why is an random (unsubstantiated) town read, "super scummy". Is not the objective of scum to blend in and not put heat on themselves by doing these type of things that are "super scummy"? @Moc 1 Because there aren't millers. 2 A random unsubstantiated townread isn't super scummy automatically. Like, it's how you get there. For town there's a clear thought process no matter how good or bad. Rayn's good enough scum that he could 'fish back' as either alignment. Like it's a really simple thing for him to flat out say, "the miller fish response" for the townread thing and it's something really straight forward and I get. That type of response normally is pretty indicative of town, but how he responded initially had absolutely nothing to do with the miller thing. More importantly, the miller thing is only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn and not for Toad. The instatownread thing makes me feel even less confident about him. Like I don't get why he couldn't have explained the miller thing initially. 3 How people play scum is subjective. I don't think that everyone goes for the blendy-long-game type. Geript,I am having real trouble digesting your postings in general. You feel like you are writing "off-the-cuff" but the thoughts dont seem coherent??? Can you explain why the miller thing is semi-alignment indicative for rayn, and not for toad. Toad calls for millers to claim Rayn asks Toad if he's a miller Toad says no but he likes the question Rayn's response to Toadescum is like really really towny; it's an exceptionally off the cuff and funny that it's very hard to come from scum. The problem is that it's rayn and he's done this as either alignment many times. So that's why it's only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn. The thing is, at no point does any of this help read Toad; the initial miller thing isn't alignment indicative; recognizing Rayn's response as towny isn't alignment indicative. Like the only thing that's happened since him returning to the thread for him is nothing. If he were town, he'd at least try to give me an honest read. But since he's not he's probably just scum who fixated on a dashing sexy guy. [b\##unvote ##vote toadescum [/b]
Toad tries shenanigans to catch people out - alignment unindicative
rayn can do it as either alignment - semi alignment indicative.....? wut?
random joke looking town read - alignment unindicative
fixated on you and only you - instant scum, vote?
don't think that adds up at all, where does toad go from being alignment null to scum based on his return of not liking your explanation?
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On February 26 2014 22:34 Mocsta wrote:
JJd, since you are here.
Thoughts on Chz and Suki pls.
(Regarding Suki, i get you think she was carefree at the start, but what about overall)
Suki reads very town to me.
Chyz does actually read very scummy to me after a reread. Few things I don't like:
- Like gumshoe, he called you town early when I don't think you were acting townish @ all.
- He sheeped geripts case on me and while I think geript legit misread my post, it kinda felt like chyz was being opportunistic
- I agree w/ the notion that someone acting scummy does not automatically make that person a scumread. But the way he worded it On February 26 2014 14:42 TheChyz wrote:
I don't think he's mafia, but I do think this sentence "But it's way scummier to call you town and sheep that case" is scummy.
doesn't sit right.
Like "I'm leaning scum" or even "He's null for me" would be a better qualifier for that sentence.
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On February 26 2014 22:46 Toadesstern wrote:
geript, how about you explain how you came to the conclusion that either of Rayn or me might trolling?
You think a townie OR a mafia see's someone fishing and the reasonable assumption is it's trolling?
Not some kind of plan behind it? Not some kind of bullshit? Not someone trying to cause chaos?
All explanations that are okayish/suck to some degree but I'd understand it. But trolling?
1. It's early game. Trolly shazazzle like miller stuff will happen. I remember someone (maybe Kush) claiming Doc in a setup with no doc. Your initial miller post is completely not alignment indicative. The other thing that you're missing is that your town read on him, my snap feel was that you were scum and I forgot about the miller thing. Then to explain I reread to make sure I wasn't crazy; dismissed the miller stuff as unimportant and continued. Even when you explained the miller thing later on, it's complete frakking bullshazazzle because your initial response is nothing like that. Even on top of it, like the miller thing is just stupid because millers are going to do whatever the frak they were going to do.
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On February 26 2014 22:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 22:24 geript wrote:On February 26 2014 17:33 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 13:13 geript wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 26 2014 13:02 Mocsta wrote:@Geript Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 12:35 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 09:53 geript wrote:
The miller thing is a silly question. But super fast townread for bullshazazzle reasons. It's not a weird enough reason to call you town to make the observation likely come from town. Equally it's not obvious enough to be an alright soft read. It's just a completely random townread for no reason. That's super scummy. Apologies if this has been asked already. Red: Why is asking millers to claim stupid? Blue: Why is an random (unsubstantiated) town read, "super scummy". Is not the objective of scum to blend in and not put heat on themselves by doing these type of things that are "super scummy"? @Moc 1 Because there aren't millers. 2 A random unsubstantiated townread isn't super scummy automatically. Like, it's how you get there. For town there's a clear thought process no matter how good or bad. Rayn's good enough scum that he could 'fish back' as either alignment. Like it's a really simple thing for him to flat out say, "the miller fish response" for the townread thing and it's something really straight forward and I get. That type of response normally is pretty indicative of town, but how he responded initially had absolutely nothing to do with the miller thing. More importantly, the miller thing is only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn and not for Toad. The instatownread thing makes me feel even less confident about him. Like I don't get why he couldn't have explained the miller thing initially. 3 How people play scum is subjective. I don't think that everyone goes for the blendy-long-game type. Geript,I am having real trouble digesting your postings in general. You feel like you are writing "off-the-cuff" but the thoughts dont seem coherent??? Can you explain why the miller thing is semi-alignment indicative for rayn, and not for toad. Toad calls for millers to claim Rayn asks Toad if he's a miller Toad says no but he likes the question Rayn's response to Toadescum is like really really towny; it's an exceptionally off the cuff and funny that it's very hard to come from scum. The problem is that it's rayn and he's done this as either alignment many times. So that's why it's only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn. The thing is, at no point does any of this help read Toad; the initial miller thing isn't alignment indicative; recognizing Rayn's response as towny isn't alignment indicative. Like the only thing that's happened since him returning to the thread for him is nothing. If he were town, he'd at least try to give me an honest read. But since he's not he's probably just scum who fixated on a dashing sexy guy. [b\##unvote ##vote toadescum Toad tries shenanigans to catch people out - alignment unindicative rayn can do it as either alignment - semi alignment indicative.....? wut? random joke looking town read - alignment unindicative fixated on you and only you - instant scum, vote? don't think that adds up at all, where does toad go from being alignment null to scum based on his return of not liking your explanation? [/b]
Read filter bro
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On February 26 2014 22:55 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 22:46 Toadesstern wrote:
geript, how about you explain how you came to the conclusion that either of Rayn or me might trolling?
You think a townie OR a mafia see's someone fishing and the reasonable assumption is it's trolling?
Not some kind of plan behind it? Not some kind of bullshit? Not someone trying to cause chaos?
All explanations that are okayish/suck to some degree but I'd understand it. But trolling? 1. It's early game. Trolly shazazzle like miller stuff will happen. I remember someone (maybe Kush) claiming Doc in a setup with no doc. Your initial miller post is completely not alignment indicative. The other thing that you're missing is that your town read on him, my snap feel was that you were scum and I forgot about the miller thing. Then to explain I reread to make sure I wasn't crazy; dismissed the miller stuff as unimportant and continued. Even when you explained the miller thing later on, it's complete frakking bullshazazzle because your initial response is nothing like that. Even on top of it, like the miller thing is just stupid because millers are going to do whatever the frak they were going to do.
that's a lie. I stated I'm 100% serious multiple times.
Rayn made it very clear himself as well
Don't give me some horsecrap "it's early game, so probably trolling" when there's posts like:
On February 26 2014 09:49 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 09:47 geript wrote:On February 26 2014 09:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript you need to explain. No I don't. Look at the reason for the read he gave and don't tell me it's not bullshit. It's actually a pretty damn serious one. Do you not pay attention or are you confused right now? I want an answer, don't treat this as some kind of trolling, I'm dead serious right now.
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On February 26 2014 10:38 Toadesstern wrote:[...] I repeatedly asked him to look at it and explain himself, making it clear that I want him to pay attention, stating that I am in fact 100% serious when I said what I said. He ended up making another post which implies that he had no idea what's going on at all, + Show Spoiler [this one] +On February 26 2014 10:02 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 09:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who did make what observation? I am not following geript. His townread on you is super weird. Maybe I'm just too zealous and too super srs, but I didn't read his response as counter-trolling where I read your read on him as early trolling. So his response isn't a weird enough read (e.g. Vivax "everyone who's posted before me is probably town" read in LXI or Vayne's "Geript not scum with Yamato/Wave" read based on scum talking to each other early in whatever game we just got out of) to be a serious read. But it's equally not an obvious read because you're obvious town. And since I don't read it as trolling, there's only one possibility. Also curse you for forcing me to walk upstairs while I was watching SVU so I could type this out and explain it. I don't think those 2 posts from him fit together. Thoughts?
lynch that guy.
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Ok so toad is scum. You guys can lynch him now and we can move on with the game or if by some act of god he gets me lynched, then you can lynch his ass next. I'll gladly trade for lynching him.
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On February 26 2014 23:16 geript wrote:
Ok so toad is scum. You guys can lynch him now and we can move on with the game or if by some act of god he gets me lynched, then you can lynch his ass next. I'll gladly trade for lynching him.
How about you explain why you think I'm mafia because you just told HF to read your filter after both of us told you that your explanation makes no sense because it merely states that you don't think something should be a townread on me which makes me null and that's your whole reasoning for thinking I'm mafia.
Or how about you point out where you said why I'm mafia because there's nothing like that in your filter and clearly your vote stems from your "toad is a null, so I'll vote him" post.
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Votecount
Mocsta (2) - suki, Holyflare
geript (2) - Toadesstern, TheChyz
TheChyz (2) - raynpelikoneet, Mocsta
Toadesstern (1) - Geript, Geript
JarJarDrinks (0) - Geript
gumshoe (0) - WaveofShadow, Mocsta
WaveofShadow (0) - raynpelikoneet
suki (0) - WaveofShadow
Not Voting - gumshoe, Ange777, Cavalinho, JarJarDrinks, Vivax, WaveofShadow
Mocsta is currently set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in .
If any votes are missing or incorrect please let us know!
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