• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:05
CEST 01:05
KST 08:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy9[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple2BSL Season 237Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
PLAYzone Challenge - open offline tour in Prague Bot on ladder BSL Season 23 BW General Discussion NaDa's Body
Tourneys
PLAYzone Challenge - open offline tour in Prague [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8831 users

Cultured Mini Mafia - Page 35

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 164 Next
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 26 2014 12:48 GMT
#681
Phoneposting:
So HF suki was your scoobydoo read? Can you go into a little detail?
Mocsta I'm not sure how you get that HF is provoking you. I've seen him provoke people and that isn't it.

Also re:Mocsta's flipping reads-list

Who is more likely to either forget or flip flop on reads with little to no reasoning?
I can say right now as scum I had airtight reads throughout, justification where I needed it and I kept track of who I had my 'reads' on.

I definitely need words with some people today---figuring out suki seems especially key.
Also I might lynch JJD.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 26 2014 12:48 GMT
#682
On February 26 2014 11:42 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 11:33 Mocsta wrote:
So...

in Back to basics as both town, you found me scummy.
in GSL Mini IV as me scum you town... you found me townie.
in this game you find me scummy.... guess that means im town.

Congratz JJD.
Lol, I thought rayn was the only person I always read backwards.


But actually, I'm starting to come around on you being town because I feel like gumshoe is using you to try and get suki lynched.

Like I think u've been acting kinda scummy mostly because of ur suki read. But it's way scummier to call you town and sheep that case.


JJD, this is your only real concluding post so far (apart from your start, I liked your start). What exactly are you trying to say here, you had a read on mocsta but you've completely thrown it away despite him doing what you think is scummy because you then think someone else is doing something that stops mocsta from being scum?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 26 2014 12:50 GMT
#683
On February 26 2014 21:37 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=suki

lol

reading.

havent read the town games yet.
but based on the 2 scum games i saw (2014 and 2012)
I dont find them anything like this game.

Nice thing was, in the 2014 scum game, TheChz was there as town, so gotta read that one too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 26 2014 12:52 GMT
#684
On February 26 2014 21:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Phoneposting:
So HF suki was your scoobydoo read? Can you go into a little detail?
Mocsta I'm not sure how you get that HF is provoking you. I've seen him provoke people and that isn't it.

Also re:Mocsta's flipping reads-list

Who is more likely to either forget or flip flop on reads with little to no reasoning?
I can say right now as scum I had airtight reads throughout, justification where I needed it and I kept track of who I had my 'reads' on.

I definitely need words with some people today---figuring out suki seems especially key.
Also I might lynch JJD.


Well in really small mafia I did the scooby doo thing and the way I caught GGTemplar was from his joining in with the mini game while questioning what the hell was going on and perpetuating that I was clogging up the thread. Suki did a similar start to this but didn't perpetuate it, hence why I wanted to let her post more to see if she would.

Either way, her posting style was quite evident in her town games and I haven't seen it here yet but she's promised to deliver more later so I can only wait and see.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 26 2014 12:52 GMT
#685
On February 26 2014 21:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Phoneposting:
So HF suki was your scoobydoo read? Can you go into a little detail?
Mocsta I'm not sure how you get that HF is provoking you. I've seen him provoke people and that isn't it.
He was asking loaded questions where his mind was already made up before the question was asked - in my opinion.

Also re:Mocsta's flipping reads-list
Who is more likely to either forget or flip flop on reads with little to no reasoning?
I can say right now as scum I had airtight reads throughout, justification where I needed it and I kept track of who I had my 'reads' on.
I cant tell if this is rhetorical? We seem to be saying the same thing?

I definitely need words with some people today---figuring out suki seems especially key.
Also I might lynch JJD.
I havent done it yet, BUT, before considering JJD its prob pertinent to read BttB.
I keep getting the feeling his trajectory is following a similar path, but I dont know why.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 26 2014 12:53 GMT
#686
On February 26 2014 21:50 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 21:37 Mocsta wrote:
On February 26 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=suki

lol

reading.

havent read the town games yet.
but based on the 2 scum games i saw (2014 and 2012)
I dont find them anything like this game.

Nice thing was, in the 2014 scum game, TheChz was there as town, so gotta read that one too.


I'm talking about her town games, (check shadow reboot etc), her posting style is a lot more inquisitive/accusatory than what I've seen so far
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 26 2014 12:54 GMT
#687
ermmm HF

some feedback would be appreciated

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434723&user=TheChyz&view=all

Thats Chz as town, for me, his filter here and there is markedly different.

Agree?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 26 2014 12:56 GMT
#688
HF, as a rule of thumb (and i believe I said this in GSl too)

I dont hold much merit in the shadow games due to coaching influence.
Regardless of whether a player used the coach effectively or not, its still a subconscious confidence booster, and inherently provokes people to think about issues deeper.

I will read the game regardless since you say there is a difference -- just giving my 2c about that in general.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 26 2014 12:57 GMT
#689
Rayn when you get the chance since you're the master of all things gumshoe:
Can you find me a towngame where he gets martyry-y and/or incessantly discusses his own meta?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 26 2014 13:00 GMT
#690
Also rampant overuse of meta in this game so far, and yet only towards speciufic people
Is that weird?
Ie everyone uses meta to discuss suki, gumshoe, no-one uss it to discuss geript.
Why?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 26 2014 13:01 GMT
#691
On February 26 2014 22:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also rampant overuse of meta in this game so far, and yet only towards speciufic people
Is that weird?
Ie everyone uses meta to discuss suki, gumshoe, no-one uss it to discuss geript.
Why?


only use it on people i dunno anything about
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 26 2014 13:02 GMT
#692
On February 26 2014 21:54 Mocsta wrote:
ermmm HF

some feedback would be appreciated

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434723&user=TheChyz&view=all

Thats Chz as town, for me, his filter here and there is markedly different.

Agree?


I don't think it's as different as you make it out to be. He does have 2 pages in day 1 here though whereas he had 4 on day 3 in that game :D

Besides, don't base everything on dem meta's because what he's done this game is questionable anyway.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 26 2014 13:03 GMT
#693
On February 26 2014 22:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also rampant overuse of meta in this game so far, and yet only towards speciufic people
Is that weird?
Ie everyone uses meta to discuss suki, gumshoe, no-one uss it to discuss geript.
Why?

Im really conflicted on Geript.

On one hand, it feels like he is going out of his way to explain his position. I think hes writing freely (albeit hes overusing "like").
On the other hand, none of what he writes makes sense to me.

To be honest, im kinda hesitant to pus him one way or another but tahts cos my last memory of him was trolling DP to rage quit i spose and then modkilling himself. Meh
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 26 2014 13:06 GMT
#694
On February 26 2014 22:02 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 21:54 Mocsta wrote:
ermmm HF

some feedback would be appreciated

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434723&user=TheChyz&view=all

Thats Chz as town, for me, his filter here and there is markedly different.

Agree?


I don't think it's as different as you make it out to be. He does have 2 pages in day 1 here though whereas he had 4 on day 3 in that game :D

Besides, don't base everything on dem meta's because what he's done this game is questionable anyway.

I find it completely different because in the town game he shows an inquisitive mindset and even from a skim its clear he has his own thoughts on the game.,


Look with suki, there sa massive change in style between shadow and shadow reboot. Just overall light heartedness.

From glancing over the town n scum games; personally i still think she is town; HOWEVER, I also have noticed that after the first 24hrs or so she tends to produce analytical posts.
I suggest this will be the best way to get an accurate read on her.

Unfortunately its highly possible she will bandwagon Chz (which is relatively legitimate as either alginment) so I am not actually sure how much weight to give that.

meh. bored now.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2014 13:08 GMT
#695
On February 26 2014 21:25 Holyflare wrote:
Toad why you writing so much to justify your read on geript who you are already voting for? This is what doesn't add up:


Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 10:45 geript wrote:
On February 26 2014 10:43 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2014 10:42 geript wrote:
Yup, I'm happy with my vote.

so you knew about it but still came to the conclusion that the read is weird? Explain.

##vote geript

Lets rolls this back a second. What about how I explained finding your read on Rayn was weird isn't making sense to you?


Why are you using all of this to push geript when you thought he was scummy before you gave him the chance to explain? Explain and vote do not go together.

so you're telling me I shouldn't push the guy I think to be the best lynch because that makes me look like I care?

1) The thing you quoted was before he stated that he knew what was going on all along
2) Asking him to explain lead to him saying that he knew all along what was going on
3) Making him talk about this will most likely make it easier for me to explain to you why geript needs to be lynched because look at his posts
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2014 13:09 GMT
#696
oh Mocsta already came to the rescue. Good boy.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 26 2014 13:17 GMT
#697
On February 26 2014 21:48 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 11:42 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 26 2014 11:33 Mocsta wrote:
So...

in Back to basics as both town, you found me scummy.
in GSL Mini IV as me scum you town... you found me townie.
in this game you find me scummy.... guess that means im town.

Congratz JJD.
Lol, I thought rayn was the only person I always read backwards.


But actually, I'm starting to come around on you being town because I feel like gumshoe is using you to try and get suki lynched.

Like I think u've been acting kinda scummy mostly because of ur suki read. But it's way scummier to call you town and sheep that case.


JJD, this is your only real concluding post so far (apart from your start, I liked your start). What exactly are you trying to say here, you had a read on mocsta but you've completely thrown it away despite him doing what you think is scummy because you then think someone else is doing something that stops mocsta from being scum?
Yeah that was basically it. I didn't like a gumshoe/mocsta scum team. But I think I'm back to not liking moc again. Gumshoe does seem to be scumhunting and I haven't been really crazy about some of Mocstas more recent posts. In Particular:

On February 26 2014 16:34 Mocsta wrote:
Current reads:

.....

rayn

On February 26 2014 19:27 Mocsta wrote:
Gentlemen and 2 ladiesif rayn cannot follow your thought process intimately than YOU MUST be scum.
This 2nd post doesn't read to me like he's talking about a scumread.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 26 2014 13:19 GMT
#698
u seem to have trouble reading australian sarcasm JJD

It was a clear dig @ rayn.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2014 13:23 GMT
#699
wait, how come noone considers this thing HF pointed out worth talking about:

On February 26 2014 11:33 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 11:31 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 26 2014 11:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2014 11:14 Mocsta wrote:
On February 26 2014 11:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
@moc
Anything you want to discuss?
Im drafting up my issues with Suki so feedback on that would be good when its released.

As an aside/observation/muse till then, I havent read in detail the interactions between Geript/Toad/Rayn (as I have been focussed on you + Suki) however I am finding Rayns approach to Toad odd (regardless of alignment). Basically I know Rayn doesnt respect Toads town play.

Red Herring or something to keep note of?

Nah I'm generally okay with it. I don't find it alignment indicative for Rayn.

Something JJD said reminded me of something:
On February 26 2014 10:08 gumshoe wrote:
Mocsta seems into it this game, overall just sharper off the bat then when I was scum together with him just a few days ago. Hes been rolling red alot lately and thats been frustrating him, but I hear none of that agitation in his posts so far. Preliminary read of course, but I feel good about his accusation not coming from a place of deceit. So now I'm left wondering, is he right about Suki? Suki's post doesn't quite feel like it was thought out days in advance, (it's a fairly sloppy one and obviously susceptible to critique) but it does feel crafted, which gives me the sense that she read her pm an hour ago and started over thinking her opening. The post itself is also one that calls back to old games, an attempt at inducing nostalgia. How someones posting makes us feel can easily influence our perception of them and the harry potter claim might be aiming for that.

If Suki isn't scum she's either a) nervous, or b) baiting. Suki, which explanation do you prefer?

In this post gumshoe doesn't offer the option that doesn't fit his idea of what suki is doing. (For example, she is neither AND is town.)
Town should always be considering all options.
I agree w/ this assesment. Also I find it odd that he seems to give moc a townread for some pretty terrible reasoning. Especially since IMO, moc has been acting pretty scummy.
So...

in Back to basics as both town, you found me scummy.
in GSL Mini IV as me scum you town... you found me townie.
in this game you find me scummy.... guess that means im town.

Congratz JJD.

Is a scumslip according to HF and I see where he's coming from because it doesn't look like Mocsta is even considering the possibility of JJD being mafia. He just flat out states that he's town without reasoning to "prove" his own towniness.

At the very least this is worth some talking
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2014 13:24 GMT
#700
On February 26 2014 17:33 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 13:13 geript wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 26 2014 13:02 Mocsta wrote:
@Geript

Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 12:35 Mocsta wrote:
On February 26 2014 09:53 geript wrote:
The miller thing is a silly question. But super fast townread for bullshazazzle reasons. It's not a weird enough reason to call you town to make the observation likely come from town. Equally it's not obvious enough to be an alright soft read. It's just a completely random townread for no reason. That's super scummy.

Apologies if this has been asked already.

Red: Why is asking millers to claim stupid?
Blue: Why is an random (unsubstantiated) town read, "super scummy".
Is not the objective of scum to blend in and not put heat on themselves by doing these type of things that are "super scummy"?


@Moc
1 Because there aren't millers.
2 A random unsubstantiated townread isn't super scummy automatically. Like, it's how you get there. For town there's a clear thought process no matter how good or bad. Rayn's good enough scum that he could 'fish back' as either alignment. Like it's a really simple thing for him to flat out say, "the miller fish response" for the townread thing and it's something really straight forward and I get. That type of response normally is pretty indicative of town, but how he responded initially had absolutely nothing to do with the miller thing. More importantly, the miller thing is only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn and not for Toad. The instatownread thing makes me feel even less confident about him. Like I don't get why he couldn't have explained the miller thing initially.
3 How people play scum is subjective. I don't think that everyone goes for the blendy-long-game type.

Geript,
I am having real trouble digesting your postings in general.
You feel like you are writing "off-the-cuff" but the thoughts dont seem coherent???

Can you explain why the miller thing is semi-alignment indicative for rayn, and not for toad.

Toad calls for millers to claim
Rayn asks Toad if he's a miller
Toad says no but he likes the question
Rayn's response to Toadescum is like really really towny; it's an exceptionally off the cuff and funny that it's very hard to come from scum. The problem is that it's rayn and he's done this as either alignment many times. So that's why it's only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn. The thing is, at no point does any of this help read Toad; the initial miller thing isn't alignment indicative; recognizing Rayn's response as towny isn't alignment indicative. Like the only thing that's happened since him returning to the thread for him is nothing. If he were town, he'd at least try to give me an honest read. But since he's not he's probably just scum who fixated on a dashing sexy guy.
[b\##unvote
##vote toadescum[/b]
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 164 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 55m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ViBE124
Nina 116
SpeCial 41
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15572
Artosis 536
Dota 2
monkeys_forever781
NeuroSwarm145
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 113
Counter-Strike
C9.Mang0200
minikerr14
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox548
AZ_Axe53
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby4014
Other Games
summit1g6418
shahzam460
ToD195
UpATreeSC80
Trikslyr61
Day[9].tv10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick586
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 312
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• OhrlRock 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki27
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Day9tv10
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
10h 55m
Replay Cast
1d
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
GSL
3 days
Yamato Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.