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On February 26 2014 13:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript has really been misguided a lot in this game. Like everything he has talked about he has been misguided or "misguided" in. I don't even know where to start with this. Like, I don't see that at all. | ||
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On February 26 2014 14:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well geript, you interpretation of me <-> Toad exchange is a big pile of i don't even know what but you are clearly not on the same page with us and your case on JJD is based on him talking about himself when he is actually talking about gumshoe which is in fact very easy to see if you read the post in question in context. That's not the point. The point is that he's aware of 'scumminess" but not pushing anything in either direction. IDK, I just don't get you Rayn. | ||
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On February 26 2014 17:33 Mocsta wrote: Geript, I am having real trouble digesting your postings in general. You feel like you are writing "off-the-cuff" but the thoughts dont seem coherent??? Can you explain why the miller thing is semi-alignment indicative for rayn, and not for toad. Toad calls for millers to claim Rayn asks Toad if he's a miller Toad says no but he likes the question Rayn's response to Toadescum is like really really towny; it's an exceptionally off the cuff and funny that it's very hard to come from scum. The problem is that it's rayn and he's done this as either alignment many times. So that's why it's only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn. The thing is, at no point does any of this help read Toad; the initial miller thing isn't alignment indicative; recognizing Rayn's response as towny isn't alignment indicative. Like the only thing that's happened since him returning to the thread for him is nothing. If he were town, he'd at least try to give me an honest read. But since he's not he's probably just scum who fixated on a dashing sexy guy. [b\##unvote ##vote toadescum[/b] | ||
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##vote toadescum That post makes me look much less sexy with the fail bolding. | ||
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On February 26 2014 22:32 Mocsta wrote: [/b]That explanatino is actually very reasonable for why you made taht comment. hmmm, I was giving toad a townish lean based on joviality. i cant say you have said enought o make me consider voting him though. Have you looked into Chz at all? Not really, I've been giving him, Suki and the chavalino guy a newbie freebie pass for now. The only thing that I can really remember of him was I was thought it odd that his early post addressed me only and that he got all huffy when I missed his post. | ||
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On February 26 2014 22:46 Toadesstern wrote: geript, how about you explain how you came to the conclusion that either of Rayn or me might trolling? You think a townie OR a mafia see's someone fishing and the reasonable assumption is it's trolling? Not some kind of plan behind it? Not some kind of bullshit? Not someone trying to cause chaos? All explanations that are okayish/suck to some degree but I'd understand it. But trolling? 1. It's early game. Trolly shazazzle like miller stuff will happen. I remember someone (maybe Kush) claiming Doc in a setup with no doc. Your initial miller post is completely not alignment indicative. The other thing that you're missing is that your town read on him, my snap feel was that you were scum and I forgot about the miller thing. Then to explain I reread to make sure I wasn't crazy; dismissed the miller stuff as unimportant and continued. Even when you explained the miller thing later on, it's complete frakking bullshazazzle because your initial response is nothing like that. Even on top of it, like the miller thing is just stupid because millers are going to do whatever the frak they were going to do. | ||
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On February 26 2014 22:46 Holyflare wrote: [/b]Toad tries shenanigans to catch people out - alignment unindicative rayn can do it as either alignment - semi alignment indicative.....? wut? random joke looking town read - alignment unindicative fixated on you and only you - instant scum, vote? don't think that adds up at all, where does toad go from being alignment null to scum based on his return of not liking your explanation? Read filter bro | ||
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On February 26 2014 09:42 Toadesstern wrote: of course not, but I like this question. You replace WoS as my buddy to murder all of mafia. Easiest townread ever First Toad's townread is complete bullshit. Like there's no ifs ands or buts about it. Like, Toad should know better that Rayn is completely capable of this as scum. It's a complete bullshit read. Next, On February 26 2014 09:56 Toadesstern wrote: you honestly think either a mafia-rayn or mafia-Toad would let that situation slip by? He said and I said Yes I'm pretty sure rayn would be over this if he was mafia. How do you come to the conclusion that it's a thing mafia would want to say because you make it look like you're not voting me out of confusion. This is his response to me saying it's a bullshit read. It has absolutely nothing to do with Toad being town. It has absolutely nothing to do with Rayn being town because of the miller thing. It has nothing to do with my scumread on Toad either. Like the miller thing would be the easiest thing to say, "No, your pressure is completely scummy because here's why blah blah blah miller response alignment indicative blah blah." This post was completely post hoc justification of the read using actions AFTER THE FACT THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MILLER THING!!! Like there's no justification there. His response has nothing to do with the townread; there is no natural towny progression of, "How in the frak do you not get the townread from Rayn's response (Toad you a miller bro)?" Like his read on me at that point has absolutely nothing to do with the miller read. His reason for Rayn being town has [B]NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MILLER THING!!!!![B] How in the frak does that make any sense? Like there's 0 counter pressure for me not coming to same conclusion on Rayn for the reasons that Toad actually has a townread on Rayn for. Rather, he's all like "Well Rayn would totes be all over this as scum so he's obviously town." The natural town thought process is, "Oh well you think I'm scum for the easiest townread ever one that's super easy to explain and understand. So clearly, you don't understand the townread. Explain townread and counterpressure for not getting the easiest townread ever." His responses are, "i'm totes serious you best explain that vote and oh btw scum rayn would totes act differently in response to this." Toad is fraking scum. | ||
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On February 27 2014 00:54 Toadesstern wrote: Secondly, I don't think the 2nd one is more plausible at all. It's an awfully complicated explanation for a very simple situation, or rather simple once you know what' going on. There's a crapton of people in this game and rayn may or may not be a set-up man but in the end he was the only one who was able to "dismantle" the trap in an incredibly townish fashion. He could have dismanteled it without calling me town as well and keeping a neutral stance on me. He didn't do so. On February 27 2014 00:34 Toadesstern wrote: 4) He comes up with a townread on rayn So Geript comes up with a townread on rayn based on the conversation and calls me null, because reading rayn as town makes no sense. He's reading him as town himself for christs sake and dares to tell me my townread makes no sense? On February 27 2014 00:34 Toadesstern wrote: Best of geript 1) My townread on Rayn makes no sense It makes an awful lot of sense. There's 3 reasons for stating rayn is town in that situation, 1 being a minor one, 2 being big ones.
Yah, it's super easy because your reasons for calling him town are completely fail. You "completely get" how I can have a townread on him for how he responds but that doesn't factor into ANY OF YOUR REASONS for him being town. Like Rayn not calling you a retard doesn't make him anything in this or any other situation. Rayn not causing chaos and confusion actually makes him more likely to be scum; have you even seen half of his town games. Every other game or so Rayn is fucking awful as town and is worse for town than if he were scum; hell he'd even say this. More importantly, he doesn't operate to cause chaos and confusion as scum; he tries to lead town to mislynches all along the way. Saving lynchbait Toadescum for later is a peachy keen plan. Rayn calling you town doesn't make him anything in this or any other situation. You visably recognize and understand how I can have a townread on him, your beef is that it doesn't extend to you for something that's completely trolly and 100% not alignment indicative of ANYONE LET ALONE YOU BISH. Get over it scum. | ||
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On February 27 2014 00:58 Toadesstern wrote: What part of the miller thing was trolly? When and where? Rayn or me? Because I can't believe how anyone would come to the conclusion that either of that is supposed to be trolly. I also took the idea from another game, so I can actually proof it to be intentionally despite the guy in question not doing it on purpose. I literally called it "the towniest thing I've ever seen a townie post if that was on purpose" or something along those lines, as a town-cop, so you can take those words as 100% granted. Calling for Millers to claim in a game where there aren't millers is a complete troll and you know that. Good thing I got rid of the "too stupid to be scum" heuristic because it would apply here. | ||
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On February 27 2014 01:01 Mocsta wrote: Another reason why Im suspect of Chz. Hes picking and choosing what to comment on and is actively adjusting his reads with thread sentiment. Hmmm, that's a really interesting and good point. I'm still not going to lynch a newbie on day 1. | ||
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On February 27 2014 01:07 Toadesstern wrote: He's literally the only guy in the thread that says reading rayn as town from my PoV makes no sense and wants to lynch me based on that. Even worse, he says it's a null and that's why I need to be lynched. That's the definition of omgus. No that's not what I'm saying about the rayn read. I'm calling your reasons for calling him town complete BS. I can totally see many players thinking Rayn's town for that comment; that's fine imo. The problem is that your reasons for calling him town have nothing whatsoever to do with the "easiest townread ever" thing. Like his response was completely towny for most people because of how spontaneous and funny it is; that's super hard to recreate as scum. But your reasoning has zero to do with any obvious reason for why he's town and all to do with things that are completely BS, don't really fit with rayn's town meta and aren't alignment indicative for anyone. | ||
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On February 27 2014 01:10 Toadesstern wrote: Read the game. You're calling me a liar in a game that I flipped town-confirmed parity cop right now. This isn't getting you anywhere. Have you flipped parity cop all of a sudden? Like this is the only game I'm playing in; although I'm hosting another on another site. | ||
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On February 27 2014 01:14 Toadesstern wrote: how you don't understand how those 3 points I stated are town-reads is beyond me. I'm done with you. You die today. You're calling me liar in a game that's already over, that I flipped town in for Christs sake. This can't get any better. Link? Because this is literally the only game I'm playing in right now; and yah I'm calling you a liar in this game but you haven't flipped yet so... maths. I don't think I've even played a game with you since idk LIX where you got modkilled. | ||
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He's scummyish. Like his jokes aren't funny to me and he didn't really troll at all early on and when he did it was all wrong. But I feel like he detunneled from rayn in a pretty towny fashion. | ||
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