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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 21:45 GMT
#761
i'm done with kush because i don't think i've seen him try to contribute above the bare minimum and now he's just taking the piss out of marv for some reason.

##Vote VIVAX420

i don't like Koshi either "i did it for the lulz or mb i was srs?" is really not a good explanation for anything. can't let these people roam free.

kush, step it up and blaze it 420 and then stop arguing with marv and do something instead
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 20 2014 21:46 GMT
#762
On February 21 2014 06:45 VIVAX420 wrote:
it literally doens't matter that we both found him scummy. what matters is my reasons were townie and yours made no sense.

My reasons all made perfect sense and you're bad or scum if you don't think so.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 20 2014 21:47 GMT
#763
omg is this pressure? i feel the pressure.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 20 2014 21:47 GMT
#764
is this pressure or are you serious prplz
Kush and Vivax
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 20 2014 21:48 GMT
#765
On February 21 2014 06:41 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 06:36 suki wrote:
On February 21 2014 06:25 Balla24 wrote:
What suki? Isn't what marv said basically the same thing as I said, I gave specifics of what I was referring to but it's essentially the same point.


Can you spell it out for me cuz I don't know what you're talking about here. -_-;


Basically my whole point with that post was that Koshi would most likely do all that stuff YOU were pointing that you thought was scummy out as town rather than as scum. Marv is saying the same thing. Yet you're trying to say you disagree with me but you agree with marv.


Here's what I said

I think he is scummy because he is not analyzing people, not pressuring people and generally just calling people scum or town randomly and making it known he's going to be sheeping.


The fact that he's not analyzing and not pressuring people I still think is true.
Calling people scum or town randomly and saying he's going to sheep, I now think is more townie on koshi, so my read here changed. I see now that you were saying the same thing where I said 'I disagree', but I don't think this game resembles last game the way you're making it out to be.

But my case was shit so the end result is I agree with you and marv that Koshi looks townie for his play thus far.
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 20 2014 21:48 GMT
#766
On February 21 2014 06:45 prplhz wrote:
i'm done with kush because i don't think i've seen him try to contribute above the bare minimum and now he's just taking the piss out of marv for some reason.

##Vote VIVAX420

i don't like Koshi either "i did it for the lulz or mb i was srs?" is really not a good explanation for anything. can't let these people roam free.

kush, step it up and blaze it 420 and then stop arguing with marv and do something instead


the implication from this post is you want to plynch me?
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 20 2014 21:49 GMT
#767
that whole suki balla thing looks like some boring shit between townies. so tldr
Kush and Vivax
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 20 2014 21:51 GMT
#768
On February 21 2014 06:49 VIVAX420 wrote:
that whole suki balla thing looks like some boring shit between townies. so tldr


What did you think about my early game, people are saying it is like my scum games. You played in both, do you agree?
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 20 2014 21:52 GMT
#769
balla the only thing ive seen from you in scum games is inactivity. from your activity aloneyou are a pretty easy townread imo.
Kush and Vivax
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 21:53 GMT
#770
can you focus

on the game

and not on whether or not

i want to plynch you or not

the only thing i got out of you this game is that you're owning it up now but you don't have much opinion other than maybe marv is scum (but you're completely insane if you think we're lynching him today so that's not going anywhere and you know it)
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 20 2014 21:53 GMT
#771
On February 21 2014 06:31 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Previous post
Pg 16-18:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 11:33 prplhz wrote:
I still think that raynpelikoneet's plan is completely useless and no townie has any reason to come up with or push it.

I also agree with marvellosity that it doesn't make sense that scum would hard push a silly slightly scummy plan in thread like this.

I don't like that suki says in this post:

On February 20 2014 09:46 suki wrote:
I agree that finding a way to 'unvote' is stupid. I don't think it makes me lean scum or town on rayn either way.


that the plan is stupid but neither scummy nor townie and then she says in this post

On February 20 2014 11:00 suki wrote:
rayn said:
We don't want that because we benefit from clarity and it's beneficial we know exactly WHEN and WHY people drop their scumreads and where they head next. If they don't have next target they should inform that by voting for themselves. This prevents mafia from misrepresenting people because you can always back up your thoughts with your actions in thread (most importantly voting). Having no possibility to unvote is pro-mafia, if you't agree with that you need to explain me why. It's never irrelevant where your vote is at.


Here's how I see it. Because you're forced to vote someone, you can't unvote and remain without an opinion (well, except with this stupid plan). This is pro-town. If someone voted Koshi and said, 'I don't think Koshi is scum anymore' but kept his vote on Koshi, then pressuring that person to take a stance on someone else IS pro-town because they can't just unvote and say 'I dont know I'm thinking'.

It forces accountability, and mafia hate being accountable for their actions. This outweighs scum possibly misrepresenting someone because they didn't take off their vote.


that the plan is anti-town, or something like that, she uses pro-town to describe a situation where the plan is not implemented.

I don't understand the first part of this post. There's two observations that are contradictory. On one hand it's completely useless and town would never do it, on the other hand scum would never hard push it. What's also strange is that he accuses suki of a similar thing in the very same post. It's actually so blatantly contradictory that I think he's town for it. I think scum would be more likely to construct themselves properly in this scenario.
Rayn pointed out the same thing, but has a different conclusion from it. I actually think it's more likely to come from town.

Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 13:22 Balla24 wrote:
On February 20 2014 08:42 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
On February 20 2014 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On February 20 2014 08:36 Balla24 wrote:
On February 20 2014 08:33 prplhz wrote:
claiming Vanilli Townie


What's the benefit of claiming green? I've seen it in a lot of old games and i've always been curious.

it's because that while townies mostly ignore it, it turns out that there's like a 90% chance that the first guy who asks why someone else is claiming green is scum

that's you

it's called the kenpachi strategy and it's fool proof

First scumread of the day too!
The Kenpachi method only works if the person questioning it actually tries to paint the original poster as scum. Balla asked it in a curious way rather than look for an opening.


Why is the fact that he misused said method scummy? Why did your 1st scumread get no pressure after this even though there was plenty said and he even did a few things.

Also why is me being curious->townie? That doesn't really make sense considering if it's genuine curiousness why wouldn't I ask the same question as scum?

Because scum wants to call people that aren't scum scum. I've used the same method myself. Making something out of nothing is what scum have to do, whereas town has little motivation for it. As for why he got no pressure; it's because I found Palmar more interesting by the time I got back, so I pursued that instead. I also came around on Prplhz simply for the amount of attention he was drawing to himself, which I find atypical of his scum game, though that's based on a small sample.


Who do you find scummy right now?
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 20 2014 21:54 GMT
#772
LOL every game i have to suspect marv. i call him scum. he calls me dumb. it's like our thing.

prplhz, i am tring to analyze the reason behind your votes. that is how you play the gmae. Don't refuse me that ingormation
Kush and Vivax
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 20 2014 21:54 GMT
#773
On February 21 2014 06:52 VIVAX420 wrote:
balla the only thing ive seen from you in scum games is inactivity. from your activity aloneyou are a pretty easy townread imo.


Are you serious kush. Balla's presence was abysmal in the first 18 hours of the thread. Usually he's all pumped up ready to go.

Is that the only reason you're townreading him?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 20 2014 21:56 GMT
#774
On February 21 2014 06:52 VIVAX420 wrote:
balla the only thing ive seen from you in scum games is inactivity. from your activity aloneyou are a pretty easy townread imo.


Hmm. That's not what I remember. You used to scumread me early for "not doing shit" and being a "scumhunter extraordinaire yet not doing anything", I feel like I didn't do MUCH in the early game and other people agree yet this game you are not saying the same thing.

Sure activity ended up being a major factor but still, the early read from you is missing.
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 20 2014 21:56 GMT
#775
literally the only reason im townreading him is because of his filter length, yes
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 20 2014 21:57 GMT
#776
On February 21 2014 06:56 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 06:52 VIVAX420 wrote:
balla the only thing ive seen from you in scum games is inactivity. from your activity aloneyou are a pretty easy townread imo.


Hmm. That's not what I remember. You used to scumread me early for "not doing shit" and being a "scumhunter extraordinaire yet not doing anything", I feel like I didn't do MUCH in the early game and other people agree yet this game you are not saying the same thing.

Sure activity ended up being a major factor but still, the early read from you is missing.


yeah but i thought you were better than i now realize you are. suck on that.
Kush and Vivax
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 21:57 GMT
#777
On February 21 2014 06:54 VIVAX420 wrote:
LOL every game i have to suspect marv. i call him scum. he calls me dumb. it's like our thing.

prplhz, i am tring to analyze the reason behind your votes. that is how you play the gmae. Don't refuse me that ingormation

i don't care if you two have a thing going, it's not helping and that's what you need to do (help).

this is a 40 page mini there's plenty of content from me as well, get to it and stop stalling for information.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 20 2014 21:58 GMT
#778
kush scum read please
I know everyone is asking you but I really wanna know
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 20 2014 21:59 GMT
#779
On February 21 2014 06:57 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 06:56 Balla24 wrote:
On February 21 2014 06:52 VIVAX420 wrote:
balla the only thing ive seen from you in scum games is inactivity. from your activity aloneyou are a pretty easy townread imo.


Hmm. That's not what I remember. You used to scumread me early for "not doing shit" and being a "scumhunter extraordinaire yet not doing anything", I feel like I didn't do MUCH in the early game and other people agree yet this game you are not saying the same thing.

Sure activity ended up being a major factor but still, the early read from you is missing.


yeah but i thought you were better than i now realize you are. suck on that.


Rofl ok~ you're probably scum, cause that's a terrible reason and seems made up on the fly.
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 20 2014 22:00 GMT
#780
On February 21 2014 06:58 suki wrote:
kush scum read please
I know everyone is asking you but I really wanna know


marv/rayn scumteam
kush out
Kush and Vivax
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